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From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Zero percent of current iPhones have basic hardware features that
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 by: Alan - Thu, 23 Nov 2023 20:21 UTC

On 2023-11-23 11:49, John wrote:
> On 11/23/2023 10:20 AM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-11-22 23:05, John wrote:
>>> On 11/22/2023 10:59 PM, Alan wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support it. Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android based music player to get the best music high
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fidelity off of Apple Music.   There is a legitimate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gripe with Apple from an Apple fan.

>>> You are the one proven wrong.  You had to add an external D/A
>>> converter.   I specifically stated an iPhone 15.  Intelligent people
>>> realize that means the discussion was limited to Apple phone versus
>>> Android phone and that external equipment to allow Apple to equal
>>> Android performance was not part of that.  Never the less you
>>> provided good information proving Apple iPhone by itself cannot equal
>>> Android audio performance- of course proving my original assertion.

>> The discussion was originally about what the iPhone 15 ITSELF supported:
>>
>> "Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
>> 15 Pro and other models do not support it."
>>
>> That was your claim, and it is FALSE.
>
>
> No it is not.  I mentioned iPhone itself.  By itself you dumb moron.

And the "iPhone itself" clearly supports 192kHz (notice I know that the
abbreviation for "kilohertz" uses a capital "H", BTW?), 24-bit lossless
music. By itself, the iPhone supports downloading and playing back that
format.

And ANY set of headphones/earbuds that connect to ANY phone via
Bluetooth, USB, or Lightning are going to have an external DAC, you
simpleton.

So the fact that you need a peripheral with the appropriate

And NO Bluetooth connection...

....NOT ONE...

....supports lossless audio at 192kHz/24-bit:

'If you’re primarily a Bluetooth user though, there really isn’t any way
to hear true lossless audio. '

<https://majorhifi.com/how-close-are-we-to-getting-lossless-bluetooth/>

192kHz/24-bit audio data rate is 4,608 kbps...

....or 4.5 Mbps.

And the theoretical maximum speed of Bluetooth 5.0 is only 2Mbps.

But, please:

You go right on losing!

:-)

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