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Richard III revisited, ‘The Lost King’ movie
A modern lady goes on a quest and gets visited.

IMHO, a key line,
“You sure you want to join this group? You look quite normal,”
one of them asks her. “I’m not,” she says coolly, accustomed
to being underestimated.

here is a review, and you can view a trailer:
https://collider.com/the-lost-king-trailer-sally-hawkins/
The video plays about 2:50

and here is my local review:
https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/movies/the-lost-king-review-a-real-life-story-perfectly-suited-for-the-movies/

‘The Lost King’ review: A real-life story perfectly suited for the movies
March 23, 2023 at 6:00 am
Sally Hawkins in Stephen Frears&#8217; &#8220;The Lost King.&#8221;
(Courtesy of IFC Films)

Sally Hawkins in Stephen Frears’ “The Lost King.” (Courtesy of IFC Films)
By Moira Macdonald
Seattle Times arts critic
Movie review

Stephen Frears’ “The Lost King” is based on one of those real-life
stories that’s so delightful you can’t quite believe it’s true: An
amateur historian in Edinburgh named Philippa Langley (Sally Hawkins),
fascinated by King Richard III, manages to pinpoint the exact location
of the monarch’s long-lost remains — beneath a thoroughly unlovely
parking lot in the town of Leicester. It’s a tale made for the movies,
and a character perfectly suited to the great Hawkins, who specializes
in wispy-voiced women with cores of steel.

As depicted in the film, Philippa leads a complicated life: She’s a
divorced mother of two who’s on good terms with her amiable ex (Steve
Coogan, who also co-wrote the screenplay), struggles to gain respect at
her uninspiring job in sales, and copes with the effects of a long-term
illness that often leaves her in pain and exhausted. One day, she takes
her son to a production of “Richard III,” and a spark is lit; soon,
she’s at a pub joining a meeting of Richard III buffs. (In my dreams,
every British pub has one of these meetings in a back corner.) “You sure
you want to join this group? You look quite normal,” one of them asks
her. “I’m not,” she says coolly, accustomed to being underestimated.

“The Lost King” reunites the team behind “Philomena” (Frears, Coogan and
co-writer Jeff Pope), and it has a similarly moving quality; you’re
instantly on Philippa’s side, aching with her every time someone
condescends to her, cheering her on as her dream draws closer. And
Frears handles the film’s one whimsical touch — a vision of King Richard
(Harry Lloyd), with whom Philippa frequently converses — with such
refreshingly brisk dryness, we buy it instantly. It’s a feel-good film
about dreams, about obsession, about believing in yourself when nobody
else seems to be doing it for you, and Hawkins carries it with
effortless ease. “Hello,” she says quietly, looking down at what lies in
the excavation she insisted on; there’s an entire world in that tiny word.

“The Lost King” ★★★½ (out of four)
With Sally Hawkins, Steve Coogan, Mark Addy, Harry Lloyd. Directed by
Stephen Frears, from a screenplay by Steve Coogan and Jeff Pope. 107
minutes. Rated PG-13 for some strong language and brief suggestive
references. Opens March 23 at multiple theaters.

Moira Macdonald: mmacdonald@seattletimes.com; on Twitter: @moiraverse.
Moira Macdonald is The Seattle Times arts critic.

and here is a youtube video (about 7:18 long)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPHaUpRkdXM

The Lost King Ending Explained | Breakdown | Quick Recap
Spoiler Explained
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The Lost King Ending Explained | Breakdown | Quick Recap. The Lost King
is the story of Philippa Langley, who successfully performed the
exhumation of King Richard III against all odds. Philippa Langley, a
middle-aged woman played by Sally Hawkins, used to work in a marketing
and advertising firm where her boss was offended by her lack of
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On 3/24/23 10:36, a425couple wrote:
> Richard III

How was Richard III found in a car park?
The grave was found in August 2012 by the University of Leicester in an
excavation prompted by Philippa Langley, a screenwriter and amateur
historian, who was convinced Richard's remains still lay under the car
park.Dec 20, 2017

Leicester car park where Richard III was buried given ...

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On 3/24/23 10:36, a425couple wrote:
> Richard III revisited, ‘The Lost King’ movie
> A modern lady goes on a quest and gets visited.
>
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>
>    The Lost King Ending Explained | Breakdown | Quick Recap
> Spoiler Explained
> 7.07K subscribers
> 2.6K views  4 months ago  #Breakdown #Shakespeare #EndingExplained
> The Lost King Ending Explained | Breakdown | Quick Recap. The Lost King
> is the story of Philippa Langley, who successfully performed the
> exhumation of King Richard III against all odds. Philippa Langley, a
> middle-aged woman played by Sally Hawkins, used to work in a marketing
> and advertising firm where her boss was offended by her lack of
> concentration at work

Exhumation and reburial of Richard III of England

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Exhumation_and_reb...
His body was taken to Greyfriars, Leicester, where it was buried in a
crude grave in the friary church. Following the friary's dissolution in
1538 and ...
‎Looking for Richard project · ‎Identification of Richard III and... ·
‎Reactions

Richard III, Whose Remains Were Found Under A Parking ...
NPR
https://www.npr.org › sections › thetwo-way › 2015/03/26
Mar 26, 2015 — The last English king to die in battle was finally given
a burial fit for a king — some 530 years after he was killed.

An Incredible Discovery

King Richard III Visitor Centre
https://kriii.com › About the KRIII Visitor Centre
In August 1485 King Richard III was killed at the Battle of Bosworth,
brought back to Leicester and after a lying in state for a few days was
buried by the ...

Richard III, King found under a parking lot, finally laid to rest

CNN.com
https://www.cnn.com › 2015/03/26 › europe › king-rich...
Mar 26, 2015 — Richard III, the King found beneath a car parking lot,
has been reburied in a solemn but celebratory service, 530 years after
his death in ...

Leicester car park where Richard III was buried given ...
The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › uk-news › dec › leices...
Dec 20, 2017 — They buried Richard in a hastily dug grave without coffin
or shroud, but in a position of honour near their high altar. Over the
centuries, the ...

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On 3/24/23 10:36, a425couple wrote:
> Richard III revisited, ‘The Lost King’ movie
> A modern lady goes on a quest and gets visited.
>

from
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/new-study-finds-that-king-richard-iii-was-buried-in-a-hurry-79909330/

New Study Finds That King Richard III Was Buried in a Hurry
The British king’s remains, discovered in a parking lot, were dropped in
an awkward position in a grave that wasn’t dug large enough

Joseph Stromberg

May 23, 2013
New archaeological analysis shows that King Richard’s remains were
buried in an awkward position, leaning against the wall of a grave that
wasn’t dug large enough.
Image via University of Leicester
Last September, a team of archaeologists in the UK made a remarkable
find: under a city council parking lot in Leicester, they found the
remains of King Richard III. The king ruled England for just two years
(from 1483 until 1485) before his violent war-time death.

In February, after comparing DNA taken from the skeleton to surviving
descendants of the king and testing its age, the group officially
confirmed the identity of the body. Since then, forensic analysis
indicated that the king was killed by traumatic sword blows to the
head—perhaps with enough force to drive his crown into his skull.

Now, the first academic paper to be published on the discovery provides
more unnerving details on the circumstances of Richard III’s death. In a
study to be published tomorrow in the journal Antiquity, the University
of Leicester team writes that the king’s body looks like it was buried
in a hurry, crammed into a hastily-prepared grave that was too small for
him. Further, he was left in a strange, slightly folded position,
perhaps even with its hands tied together.

Instead of a carefully-dug grave with straight walls, as was customary
during the era, Richard III’s has sloping walls, with a larger size at
the surface than at the bottom, as the team determined by comparing the
layered patterns in the dirt abutting the grave with the unordered soil
filling it and surrounding the king’s remains.

What’s more, the king’s head was left leaning against one corner of the
grave, indicating that a gravedigger stood in the hole to receive his
body and didn’t bother rearranging him at the center after putting him
down on the ground, and there’s no evidence that a coffin or even a
death shroud was used. Given the historical context of Richard III’s
death, none of this is a huge surprise, although the apparent lack of
care surrounding the burial of this king might exceed even what
historians had previously expected.

A facial reconstruction of King Richard III based on his skull and other
forensic details. Image via Leicester Arts & Museums

Richard III was killed at age 32 during the Battle of Bosworth Field,
close to the end of the infamously violent War of the Roses period—a
30-plus year battle for power between supporters of competing branches
of the royal family for control of the throne. After he was defeated and
killed in battle by the forces of rival Henry Tudor (who would become
King Henry VII), the new king reportedly kept the burial location
intentionally secret—he feared it would otherwise become a rallying
location for his enemies—and knowledge of Richard III’s grave was lost
over time.

Now we know that Richard III’s body was brought to the nearby city of
Leicester, passed along to Franciscan friars and buried at what was then
Grey Friars church “without any pomp or solemn funeral,” according to
the contemporary historian Polydore Vergil. (Legend holds that his body
was stripped naked, transported on the back of a horse and mocked by
passers-by during the entire journey.) Eventually, the church was
dismantled, and the site was paved over.

Apart from analyzing the unusual characteristics of the king’s grave,
the new paper also provides the first peer-reviewed forensic details
about his remains. As the archaeologists had previously mentioned in
public statements, the body matches the physical details of Richard III
as described in historical sources: a curved spine, due to childhood
scoliosis, and slim features. In addition to the fierce blows to his
head, there were a total of 10 wounds discovered on his body, including
stabs in his buttocks and back that the researchers believe were
probably made after he’d already been killed, because of their location
and the fact that they couldn’t have been made while he was still
wearing armor.

So, did Richard III die in violent humiliation? The new findings seem to
support this idea. At the very least, he was buried in a manner that
certainly didn’t befit a king. But now, a number of groups and
localities are suddenly interested in giving him a proper burial. The
cities of Leicester and York are dueling over the right to preserve his
remains and attract the tourists that will flock to see the king who was
buried in a parking lot. We can only hope this new battle doesn’t last
for another 30 years.

Joseph Stromberg | | READ MORE
Joseph Stromberg was previously a digital reporter for Smithsonian.

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> a425couple
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> Richard III revisited, ‘The Lost King’ movie

This was pretty good.

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On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 10:13:23 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
> On 3/24/23 10:36, a425couple wrote:
> > Richard III

Now perhaps they can work on James IV.

His head is supposed to be under a pub in Wood Street, City of London, and his body under
the 14th hole of the Royal Mid-Surrey golf club.

He had been excommunicated prior to his death, so there was some trouble
in getting him buried. Henry VIII tried for a space in St Paul's (he was a brother
in law, after all) but that did not happen. So he was left above ground for decades.

Admittedly Shakespeare never got around to writing a play about him, probably a good
idea as the future James I/VI might have been touchy on the subject.

William Hyde

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On 4/2/23 13:08, William Hyde wrote:
> On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 10:13:23 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
>> On 3/24/23 10:36, a425couple wrote:
>>> Richard III
>
> Now perhaps they can work on James IV.
>
> His head is supposed to be under a pub in Wood Street, City of London, and his body under
> the 14th hole of the Royal Mid-Surrey golf club.
>
> He had been excommunicated prior to his death, so there was some trouble
> in getting him buried. Henry VIII tried for a space in St Paul's (he was a brother
> in law, after all) but that did not happen. So he was left above ground for decades.
>
> Admittedly Shakespeare never got around to writing a play about him, probably a good
> idea as the future James I/VI might have been touchy on the subject.
>
> William Hyde
>

More than slightly perverted!
As in - "it was opened and his body became a plaything,
John Stow writing that "Workmen there for their foolish
pleasure hewed off his head.""

from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_IV_of_Scotland

"Although Henry VIII obtained a dispensation from Pope Leo X on 29
November 1513 to have the Scottish king buried in St Paul's Cathedral in
London, James IV remained unburied.[146] His coffin remained above
ground at Sheen Priory, as the decades passed and the priory was
dissolved in 1539 during the English Reformation, becoming the
secularized estate of Henry Grey, 1st Duke of Suffolk. During the reign
of Edward VI of England the antiquarian John Stow was shown the coffin,
lying in a store room: "since the dissolution of the House I have been
shewed the same body (as was affirmed) so lapped in lead throwne into an
old wast roome, amongst old timber, stone, lead, and other rubble".[146]
James IV's coffin was rediscovered during the reign of Elizabeth I of
England, when it was opened and his body became a plaything, John Stow
writing that "Workmen there for their foolish pleasure hewed off his
head."[147][146] The body disappeared, its last-known resting place at
Sheen now lying under the fairway of the 14th hole of the Royal
Mid-Surrey Golf Course.[148] Elizabeth I's master glazier, Lancelot
Young, is said to have kept James's head as a curio at his home in Wood
Street in the City of London, before asking the sexton of the local
church, St Michael's, to bury it.[146] The church was later demolished,
and the site redeveloped many times; it is now occupied by a public
house.[148][149]


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