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Subject: Re: ADL Urged Congress to Pass FISA Law Spying on Americans to
'Protect Israel'
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 by: Nomen Nescio - Sat, 27 Apr 2024 13:19 UTC

On Sat, 27 Apr 24 10:56:05 UTC, D. Ray <d@ray> said in
Message-ID: <tkjLtTvnUSxbwhwyBGtRlRflbbyGXJRP@news.usenet.farm>:

> The Anti-Defamation League and the Conference of Presidents of Major
> American Jewish Organizations wrote a letter to House Speaker Mike
> Johnson and Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries earlier this month urging them
> to pass the controversial FISA law to spy on Americans to "protect Israel."

Gee, what a surprise -- NOT! More evidence, as if any were needed, of the
Israeli tail wagging the American dog.
> The FISA bill was described as "the biggest expansion of domestic
> surveillance since the Patriot Act" and included language to which could
> compel "an enormous range" of businesses to start acting as NSA spies.

That appears to be the general consensus of opinion.

> Americans rose up and flooded Congress with calls to demand the bill be
> stopped or amended but it sailed through the House and Senate with zero
> changes as the will of the American public has no influence over the regime
> in Washington.

It really doesn't seem to matter which party is in power in Washington,
does it? Both the Democrats and the Republicans regularly kowtow to Israel.
Israel always seems to get a pass, doesn't it? Even when they attacked the
USS Liberty during the Six Day War in 1967 -- if *any* other nation-state
had done this, this would have meant war, but Israel got away with the
literal murder of American sailors. (Just like they're getting away with the
literal murder of Palestinians today -- and the whole world is giving them a
pass, yet again.)

> The ADL/Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations
> told Congress the spying law was needed first and foremost for "(1) the
> safety and security of Israel; and (2) the need to protect Jews in the U.S.
> -- indeed, all Americans -- from terrorist threats."

Interesting wording, if accurate: Israel first, Jews second, Americans last.

> "In the U.S., indications of foreign involvement in domestic antisemitic
> events in the wake of October 7 highlight the need for the Executive Branch
> to retain this vital tool," the Jewish advocacy group said, likely alluding
> to anti-Israel protests.

Yeah, right. Like people need intervention from foreign states to get them
to demonstrate against Israel. All people need is a pair of eyes, to see
what is going on in Palestine, and some humanity.

> They went on to say they're "deeply concerned" about proposals to reign in
> the spying law by requiring a warrant to examine "information previously
> obtained through use of Section 702," which they said would "hobble vital
> intelligence and law enforcement authorities."
>
> Now we know why our bought off Congress rammed through the FISA law to spy
> on us without a warrant.

I think they would very likely have done it anyway, but support from the
Israel lobby was the icing on the cake. (Why listen to your constituents,
and uphold their rights, when to do so would likely incur the wrath of
AIPAC?)
> <https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64419>
>
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