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 by: The True Doctor - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:45 UTC

Racist T. Davies should be ashamed of himself, the degenerate woke
hypocrite.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/

The Doctor Who casting row has exposed the hypocrisy of the woke Left

If the tables were turned, and a white actor was cast to play a
non-white historical character, high-minded progressives would be up in arms

6 December 2023 • 7:00pm
Michael Deacon

Nathaniel Curtis appeared as Isaac Newton in Doctor Who

I don’t know how many viewers still enjoy Doctor Who. But I’m sure its
producers do. More and more, the show feels like a deeply self-satisfied
exercise in Left-wing trolling. You can just picture its producers
squealing with glee, as they compete to think of ways to wind up stuffy
old Tories.

“How about we get an alien to state its preferred pronouns! The Mail
will be furious!” “And how about the Doctor meets Isaac Newton – and
develops a gay crush on him! They’ll be so triggered!”

But the thing that delighted the producers most of all, I imagine, was a
certain piece of casting. Isaac Newton was white. Yet, in last
Saturday’s Doctor Who, the actor cast to play him was Nathaniel Curtis –
who is mixed-race.

Ever since, Left-wing media outlets have been in their element. “Doctor
Who Upsets Conservatives as Isaac Newton Played by Person of Colour,”
chortled a typical headline. The Poke, a British satirical website, had
great fun mocking anyone who objected. Just look at these silly gammon!
Doctor Who is a work of fiction, not a documentary! It isn’t meant to be
realistic!

True enough. I can’t help feeling, though, that these Left-wing outlets
are missing the point. The problem is not the casting. It’s the
hypocrisy. Because if the tables were turned, and a white actor were
cast to play a non-white historical character, high-minded progressives
would not be giggling at anyone who complained. Far from it. They’d be
apoplectically denouncing it as a racist whitewashing of history.

Of course, I can’t strictly prove that, because these days there isn’t a
chance in hell that a white actor would be cast as a non-white
historical figure. It used to happen: for example, in the 1956 film The
Conqueror, when John Wayne played the Mongol emperor Genghis Khan. And,
that same year, in The Ten Commandments, when Yul Brynner played the
Egyptian pharaoh Rameses II.

Today, though, no sane director would dare do such a thing. In our
inclusive modern world, casting is meant to be “authentic”. And not just
when it comes to race. In 2018, Scarlett Johansson hastily withdrew from
a film after online outrage over her casting. The character she’d been
hired to play was trans – and therefore, raged her critics, the actor
must be trans, too.

Perhaps she should have seen the row coming. Three years earlier, Eddie
Redmayne had played a trans woman in The Danish Girl. His performance
won him an Oscar nomination. Subsequently, however, the uproar over this
piece of “inauthentic” casting grew to such a furious pitch that he
regretted ever agreeing to it. “I made that film with the best
intentions, but I think it was a mistake,” he whimpered, in 2021.

It’s not the only time he’s been in this type of trouble, either. In
2014, he was cast to play Stephen Hawking – even though Redmayne is
able-bodied. “We wouldn’t accept actors blacking up,” thundered a
columnist in The Guardian, “so why applaud ‘cripping up’?”

A perfectly fair question. But if, these days, we want casting to be
authentic, the rules must apply to every group. Which surely means, for
the sake of consistency, that white historical figures should be played
by white actors. And if they aren’t, we at least shouldn’t mock those
who think they should.

Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who. After all,
it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway, there’s another new
episode on Saturday, and it may yet surprise us all. Perhaps in this
one, the Doctor will travel back in time to meet Mary Seacole, played by
Keira Knightley. Or Muhammad Ali, played by Colin Firth.

--
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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
stands for." -William Shatner

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:13 UTC

In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>Racist T. Davies should be ashamed of himself, the degenerate woke
>hypocrite.
>
>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>
>The Doctor Who casting row has exposed the hypocrisy of the woke Left
>
>If the tables were turned, and a white actor was cast to play a
>non-white historical character, high-minded progressives would be up in arms
>
>6 December 2023 • 7:00pm
>Michael Deacon
>
>Nathaniel Curtis appeared as Isaac Newton in Doctor Who
>
>I don’t know how many viewers still enjoy Doctor Who. But I’m sure its
>producers do. More and more, the show feels like a deeply self-satisfied
>exercise in Left-wing trolling. You can just picture its producers
>squealing with glee, as they compete to think of ways to wind up stuffy
>old Tories.
>
>“How about we get an alien to state its preferred pronouns! The Mail
>will be furious!” “And how about the Doctor meets Isaac Newton – and
>develops a gay crush on him! They’ll be so triggered!”
>
>But the thing that delighted the producers most of all, I imagine, was a
>certain piece of casting. Isaac Newton was white. Yet, in last
>Saturday’s Doctor Who, the actor cast to play him was Nathaniel Curtis –
>who is mixed-race.
>
>Ever since, Left-wing media outlets have been in their element. “Doctor
>Who Upsets Conservatives as Isaac Newton Played by Person of Colour,”
>chortled a typical headline. The Poke, a British satirical website, had
>great fun mocking anyone who objected. Just look at these silly gammon!
>Doctor Who is a work of fiction, not a documentary! It isn’t meant to be
>realistic!
>
>True enough. I can’t help feeling, though, that these Left-wing outlets
>are missing the point. The problem is not the casting. It’s the
>hypocrisy. Because if the tables were turned, and a white actor were
>cast to play a non-white historical character, high-minded progressives
>would not be giggling at anyone who complained. Far from it. They’d be
>apoplectically denouncing it as a racist whitewashing of history.
>
>Of course, I can’t strictly prove that, because these days there isn’t a
>chance in hell that a white actor would be cast as a non-white
>historical figure. It used to happen: for example, in the 1956 film The
>Conqueror, when John Wayne played the Mongol emperor Genghis Khan. And,
>that same year, in The Ten Commandments, when Yul Brynner played the
>Egyptian pharaoh Rameses II.
>
>Today, though, no sane director would dare do such a thing. In our
>inclusive modern world, casting is meant to be “authentic”. And not just
>when it comes to race. In 2018, Scarlett Johansson hastily withdrew from
>a film after online outrage over her casting. The character she’d been
>hired to play was trans – and therefore, raged her critics, the actor
>must be trans, too.
>
>Perhaps she should have seen the row coming. Three years earlier, Eddie
>Redmayne had played a trans woman in The Danish Girl. His performance
>won him an Oscar nomination. Subsequently, however, the uproar over this
>piece of “inauthentic” casting grew to such a furious pitch that he
>regretted ever agreeing to it. “I made that film with the best
>intentions, but I think it was a mistake,” he whimpered, in 2021.
>
>It’s not the only time he’s been in this type of trouble, either. In
>2014, he was cast to play Stephen Hawking – even though Redmayne is
>able-bodied. “We wouldn’t accept actors blacking up,” thundered a
>columnist in The Guardian, “so why applaud ‘cripping up’?”
>
>A perfectly fair question. But if, these days, we want casting to be
>authentic, the rules must apply to every group. Which surely means, for
>the sake of consistency, that white historical figures should be played
>by white actors. And if they aren’t, we at least shouldn’t mock those
>who think they should.
>
>Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who. After all,
>it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway, there’s another new
>episode on Saturday, and it may yet surprise us all. Perhaps in this
>one, the Doctor will travel back in time to meet Mary Seacole, played by
>Keira Knightley. Or Muhammad Ali, played by Colin Firth.
>

Still a non-White Newton?

>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner

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 by: solar penguin - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 09:22 UTC

The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

>
> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>

A failing by once-respected newspaper resorts to clickbait rants
in a desperate attempt to grab a few more readers.

How have the mighty fallen...

--
solar penguin

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 by: Daniel65 - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 09:54 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 7/12/23 12:13 pm:
> In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>> Racist T. Davies should be ashamed of himself, the degenerate woke
>> hypocrite.
>>
>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>>
>> The Doctor Who casting row has exposed the hypocrisy of the woke Left
>>
>> If the tables were turned, and a white actor was cast to play a
>> non-white historical character, high-minded progressives would be
>> up in arms
>>
>> 6 December 2023 • 7:00pm Michael Deacon
>>
>> Nathaniel Curtis appeared as Isaac Newton in Doctor Who
>>
>> I don’t know how many viewers still enjoy Doctor Who. But I’m
>> sure its producers do. More and more, the show feels like a deeply
>> self-satisfied exercise in Left-wing trolling. You can just picture
>> its producers squealing with glee, as they compete to think of ways
>> to wind up stuffy old Tories.
>>
>> “How about we get an alien to state its preferred pronouns! The
>> Mail will be furious!” “And how about the Doctor meets Isaac
>> Newton – and develops a gay crush on him! They’ll be so
>> triggered!”
>>
>> But the thing that delighted the producers most of all, I imagine,
>> was a certain piece of casting. Isaac Newton was white. Yet, in
>> last Saturday’s Doctor Who, the actor cast to play him was
>> Nathaniel Curtis – who is mixed-race.
>>
>> Ever since, Left-wing media outlets have been in their element.
>> “Doctor Who Upsets Conservatives as Isaac Newton Played by Person
>> of Colour,” chortled a typical headline. The Poke, a British
>> satirical website, had great fun mocking anyone who objected. Just
>> look at these silly gammon! Doctor Who is a work of fiction, not a
>> documentary! It isn’t meant to be realistic!
>>
>> True enough. I can’t help feeling, though, that these Left-wing
>> outlets are missing the point. The problem is not the casting.
>> It’s the hypocrisy. Because if the tables were turned, and a
>> white actor were cast to play a non-white historical character,
>> high-minded progressives would not be giggling at anyone who
>> complained. Far from it. They’d be apoplectically denouncing it
>> as a racist whitewashing of history.
>>
>> Of course, I can’t strictly prove that, because these days there
>> isn’t a chance in hell that a white actor would be cast as a
>> non-white historical figure. It used to happen: for example, in the
>> 1956 film The Conqueror, when John Wayne played the Mongol emperor
>> Genghis Khan. And, that same year, in The Ten Commandments, when
>> Yul Brynner played the Egyptian pharaoh Rameses II.
>>
>> Today, though, no sane director would dare do such a thing. In our
>> inclusive modern world, casting is meant to be “authentic”. And
>> not just when it comes to race. In 2018, Scarlett Johansson hastily
>> withdrew from a film after online outrage over her casting. The
>> character she’d been hired to play was trans – and therefore,
>> raged her critics, the actor must be trans, too.
>>
>> Perhaps she should have seen the row coming. Three years earlier,
>> Eddie Redmayne had played a trans woman in The Danish Girl. His
>> performance won him an Oscar nomination. Subsequently, however, the
>> uproar over this piece of “inauthentic” casting grew to such a
>> furious pitch that he regretted ever agreeing to it. “I made that
>> film with the best intentions, but I think it was a mistake,” he
>> whimpered, in 2021.
>>
>> It’s not the only time he’s been in this type of trouble,
>> either. In 2014, he was cast to play Stephen Hawking – even
>> though Redmayne is able-bodied. “We wouldn’t accept actors
>> blacking up,” thundered a columnist in The Guardian, “so why
>> applaud ‘cripping up’?”
>>
>> A perfectly fair question. But if, these days, we want casting to
>> be authentic, the rules must apply to every group. Which surely
>> means, for the sake of consistency, that white historical figures
>> should be played by white actors. And if they aren’t, we at least
>> shouldn’t mock those who think they should.
>>
>> Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who. After
>> all, it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway, there’s
>> another new episode on Saturday, and it may yet surprise us all.
>> Perhaps in this one, the Doctor will travel back in time to meet
>> Mary Seacole, played by Keira Knightley. Or Muhammad Ali, played by
>> Colin Firth.
>
> Still a non-White Newton?

Yes, why not, asswipe?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley) as
Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander"!!

How could 'they'?!?!
--
Daniel

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Daniel65 wrote:

> The Doctor wrote on 7/12/23 12:13 pm:
> > In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
> ><agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
> > > Racist T. Davies should be ashamed of himself, the degenerate
> > > woke hypocrite.
> > >
> > >
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
> > >
> >> The Doctor Who casting row has exposed the hypocrisy of the woke
> Left
> > >
> > > If the tables were turned, and a white actor was cast to play a
> > > non-white historical character, high-minded progressives would
> > > be up in arms
> > >
> > > 6 December 2023 • 7:00pm Michael Deacon
> > >
> > > Nathaniel Curtis appeared as Isaac Newton in Doctor Who
> > >
> > > I don’t know how many viewers still enjoy Doctor Who. But
> > > I’m sure its producers do. More and more, the show feels like
> > > a deeply self-satisfied exercise in Left-wing trolling. You can
> > > just picture its producers squealing with glee, as they compete
> > > to think of ways to wind up stuffy old Tories.
> > >
> > > “How about we get an alien to state its preferred pronouns!
> > > The Mail will be furious!” “And how about the Doctor meets
> > > Isaac Newton – and develops a gay crush on him! They’ll be
> > > so triggered!”
> > >
> > > But the thing that delighted the producers most of all, I
> > > imagine, was a certain piece of casting. Isaac Newton was
> > > white. Yet, in last Saturday’s Doctor Who, the actor cast to
> > > play him was Nathaniel Curtis – who is mixed-race.
> > >
> > > Ever since, Left-wing media outlets have been in their element.
> > > “Doctor Who Upsets Conservatives as Isaac Newton Played by
> > > Person of Colour,” chortled a typical headline. The Poke, a
> > > British satirical website, had great fun mocking anyone who
> > > objected. Just look at these silly gammon! Doctor Who is a work
> > > of fiction, not a documentary! It isn’t meant to be realistic!
> > >
> > > True enough. I can’t help feeling, though, that these
> > > Left-wing outlets are missing the point. The problem is not the
> > > casting. It’s the hypocrisy. Because if the tables were
> > > turned, and a white actor were cast to play a non-white
> > > historical character, high-minded progressives would not be
> > > giggling at anyone who complained. Far from it. They’d be
> > > apoplectically denouncing it as a racist whitewashing of
> > > history.
> > >
> > > Of course, I can’t strictly prove that, because these days
> > > there isn’t a chance in hell that a white actor would be cast
> > > as a non-white historical figure. It used to happen: for
> > > example, in the 1956 film The Conqueror, when John Wayne played
> > > the Mongol emperor Genghis Khan. And, that same year, in The
> > > Ten Commandments, when Yul Brynner played the Egyptian pharaoh
> > > Rameses II.
> > >
> > > Today, though, no sane director would dare do such a thing. In
> > > our inclusive modern world, casting is meant to be
> > > “authentic”. And not just when it comes to race. In 2018,
> > > Scarlett Johansson hastily withdrew from a film after online
> > > outrage over her casting. The character she’d been hired to
> > > play was trans – and therefore, raged her critics, the actor
> > > must be trans, too.
> > >
> > > Perhaps she should have seen the row coming. Three years
> > > earlier, Eddie Redmayne had played a trans woman in The Danish
> > > Girl. His performance won him an Oscar nomination.
> > > Subsequently, however, the uproar over this piece of
> > > “inauthentic” casting grew to such a furious pitch that he
> > > regretted ever agreeing to it. “I made that film with the
> > > best intentions, but I think it was a mistake,” he whimpered,
> > > in 2021.
> > >
> > > It’s not the only time he’s been in this type of trouble,
> > > either. In 2014, he was cast to play Stephen Hawking – even
> > > though Redmayne is able-bodied. “We wouldn’t accept actors
> > > blacking up,” thundered a columnist in The Guardian, “so why
> > > applaud ‘cripping up’?”
> > >
> > > A perfectly fair question. But if, these days, we want casting
> > > to be authentic, the rules must apply to every group. Which
> > > surely means, for the sake of consistency, that white
> > > historical figures should be played by white actors. And if
> > > they aren’t, we at least shouldn’t mock those who think
> > > they should.
> > >
> > > Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who.
> > > After all, it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway,
> > > there’s another new episode on Saturday, and it may yet
> > > surprise us all. Perhaps in this one, the Doctor will travel
> > > back in time to meet Mary Seacole, played by Keira Knightley.
> > > Or Muhammad Ali, played by Colin Firth.
> >
> > Still a non-White Newton?
>
> Yes, why not, asswipe?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley)
> as Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the
> Gander"!!

Well, he's half-Indian and his real name isn't Ben Kingsley...

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:07 UTC

In article <uks2te$17672$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>>
>
>A failing by once-respected newspaper resorts to clickbait rants
>in a desperate attempt to grab a few more readers.
>
>How have the mighty fallen...
>

What do you have against the telegraph.

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:11 UTC

In article <uks4os$17f74$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 7/12/23 12:13 pm:
>> In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>> Racist T. Davies should be ashamed of himself, the degenerate woke
>>> hypocrite.
>>>
>>>
>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>>>
> >> The Doctor Who casting row has exposed the hypocrisy of the woke Left
>>>
>>> If the tables were turned, and a white actor was cast to play a
>>> non-white historical character, high-minded progressives would be
>>> up in arms
>>>
>>> 6 December 2023 • 7:00pm Michael Deacon
>>>
>>> Nathaniel Curtis appeared as Isaac Newton in Doctor Who
>>>
>>> I don’t know how many viewers still enjoy Doctor Who. But I’m
>>> sure its producers do. More and more, the show feels like a deeply
>>> self-satisfied exercise in Left-wing trolling. You can just picture
>>> its producers squealing with glee, as they compete to think of ways
>>> to wind up stuffy old Tories.
>>>
>>> “How about we get an alien to state its preferred pronouns! The
>>> Mail will be furious!” “And how about the Doctor meets Isaac
>>> Newton – and develops a gay crush on him! They’ll be so
>>> triggered!”
>>>
>>> But the thing that delighted the producers most of all, I imagine,
>>> was a certain piece of casting. Isaac Newton was white. Yet, in
>>> last Saturday’s Doctor Who, the actor cast to play him was
>>> Nathaniel Curtis – who is mixed-race.
>>>
>>> Ever since, Left-wing media outlets have been in their element.
>>> “Doctor Who Upsets Conservatives as Isaac Newton Played by Person
>>> of Colour,” chortled a typical headline. The Poke, a British
>>> satirical website, had great fun mocking anyone who objected. Just
>>> look at these silly gammon! Doctor Who is a work of fiction, not a
>>> documentary! It isn’t meant to be realistic!
>>>
>>> True enough. I can’t help feeling, though, that these Left-wing
>>> outlets are missing the point. The problem is not the casting.
>>> It’s the hypocrisy. Because if the tables were turned, and a
>>> white actor were cast to play a non-white historical character,
>>> high-minded progressives would not be giggling at anyone who
>>> complained. Far from it. They’d be apoplectically denouncing it
>>> as a racist whitewashing of history.
>>>
>>> Of course, I can’t strictly prove that, because these days there
>>> isn’t a chance in hell that a white actor would be cast as a
>>> non-white historical figure. It used to happen: for example, in the
>>> 1956 film The Conqueror, when John Wayne played the Mongol emperor
>>> Genghis Khan. And, that same year, in The Ten Commandments, when
>>> Yul Brynner played the Egyptian pharaoh Rameses II.
>>>
>>> Today, though, no sane director would dare do such a thing. In our
>>> inclusive modern world, casting is meant to be “authentic”. And
>>> not just when it comes to race. In 2018, Scarlett Johansson hastily
>>> withdrew from a film after online outrage over her casting. The
>>> character she’d been hired to play was trans – and therefore,
>>> raged her critics, the actor must be trans, too.
>>>
>>> Perhaps she should have seen the row coming. Three years earlier,
>>> Eddie Redmayne had played a trans woman in The Danish Girl. His
>>> performance won him an Oscar nomination. Subsequently, however, the
>>> uproar over this piece of “inauthentic” casting grew to such a
>>> furious pitch that he regretted ever agreeing to it. “I made that
>>> film with the best intentions, but I think it was a mistake,” he
>>> whimpered, in 2021.
>>>
>>> It’s not the only time he’s been in this type of trouble,
>>> either. In 2014, he was cast to play Stephen Hawking – even
>>> though Redmayne is able-bodied. “We wouldn’t accept actors
>>> blacking up,” thundered a columnist in The Guardian, “so why
>>> applaud ‘cripping up’?”
>>>
>>> A perfectly fair question. But if, these days, we want casting to
>>> be authentic, the rules must apply to every group. Which surely
>>> means, for the sake of consistency, that white historical figures
>>> should be played by white actors. And if they aren’t, we at least
>>> shouldn’t mock those who think they should.
>>>
>>> Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who. After
>>> all, it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway, there’s
>>> another new episode on Saturday, and it may yet surprise us all.
>>> Perhaps in this one, the Doctor will travel back in time to meet
>>> Mary Seacole, played by Keira Knightley. Or Muhammad Ali, played by
>>> Colin Firth.
>>
>> Still a non-White Newton?
>
>Yes, why not, %?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley) as
>Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander"!!
>
>How could 'they'?!?!
>--
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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:11 UTC

In article <nnd$214cc329$69ef2394@5def00fe4bf7faed>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Daniel65 wrote:
>
>> The Doctor wrote on 7/12/23 12:13 pm:
>> > In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>> ><agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>> > > Racist T. Davies should be ashamed of himself, the degenerate
>> > > woke hypocrite.
>> > >
>> > >
>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>> > >
>> >> The Doctor Who casting row has exposed the hypocrisy of the woke
>> Left
>> > >
>> > > If the tables were turned, and a white actor was cast to play a
>> > > non-white historical character, high-minded progressives would
>> > > be up in arms
>> > >
>> > > 6 December 2023 • 7:00pm Michael Deacon
>> > >
>> > > Nathaniel Curtis appeared as Isaac Newton in Doctor Who
>> > >
>> > > I don’t know how many viewers still enjoy Doctor Who. But
>> > > I’m sure its producers do. More and more, the show feels like
>> > > a deeply self-satisfied exercise in Left-wing trolling. You can
>> > > just picture its producers squealing with glee, as they compete
>> > > to think of ways to wind up stuffy old Tories.
>> > >
>> > > “How about we get an alien to state its preferred pronouns!
>> > > The Mail will be furious!” “And how about the Doctor meets
>> > > Isaac Newton – and develops a gay crush on him! They’ll be
>> > > so triggered!”
>> > >
>> > > But the thing that delighted the producers most of all, I
>> > > imagine, was a certain piece of casting. Isaac Newton was
>> > > white. Yet, in last Saturday’s Doctor Who, the actor cast to
>> > > play him was Nathaniel Curtis – who is mixed-race.
>> > >
>> > > Ever since, Left-wing media outlets have been in their element.
>> > > “Doctor Who Upsets Conservatives as Isaac Newton Played by
>> > > Person of Colour,” chortled a typical headline. The Poke, a
>> > > British satirical website, had great fun mocking anyone who
>> > > objected. Just look at these silly gammon! Doctor Who is a work
>> > > of fiction, not a documentary! It isn’t meant to be realistic!
>> > >
>> > > True enough. I can’t help feeling, though, that these
>> > > Left-wing outlets are missing the point. The problem is not the
>> > > casting. It’s the hypocrisy. Because if the tables were
>> > > turned, and a white actor were cast to play a non-white
>> > > historical character, high-minded progressives would not be
>> > > giggling at anyone who complained. Far from it. They’d be
>> > > apoplectically denouncing it as a racist whitewashing of
>> > > history.
>> > >
>> > > Of course, I can’t strictly prove that, because these days
>> > > there isn’t a chance in hell that a white actor would be cast
>> > > as a non-white historical figure. It used to happen: for
>> > > example, in the 1956 film The Conqueror, when John Wayne played
>> > > the Mongol emperor Genghis Khan. And, that same year, in The
>> > > Ten Commandments, when Yul Brynner played the Egyptian pharaoh
>> > > Rameses II.
>> > >
>> > > Today, though, no sane director would dare do such a thing. In
>> > > our inclusive modern world, casting is meant to be
>> > > “authentic”. And not just when it comes to race. In 2018,
>> > > Scarlett Johansson hastily withdrew from a film after online
>> > > outrage over her casting. The character she’d been hired to
>> > > play was trans – and therefore, raged her critics, the actor
>> > > must be trans, too.
>> > >
>> > > Perhaps she should have seen the row coming. Three years
>> > > earlier, Eddie Redmayne had played a trans woman in The Danish
>> > > Girl. His performance won him an Oscar nomination.
>> > > Subsequently, however, the uproar over this piece of
>> > > “inauthentic” casting grew to such a furious pitch that he
>> > > regretted ever agreeing to it. “I made that film with the
>> > > best intentions, but I think it was a mistake,” he whimpered,
>> > > in 2021.
>> > >
>> > > It’s not the only time he’s been in this type of trouble,
>> > > either. In 2014, he was cast to play Stephen Hawking – even
>> > > though Redmayne is able-bodied. “We wouldn’t accept actors
>> > > blacking up,” thundered a columnist in The Guardian, “so why
>> > > applaud ‘cripping up’?”
>> > >
>> > > A perfectly fair question. But if, these days, we want casting
>> > > to be authentic, the rules must apply to every group. Which
>> > > surely means, for the sake of consistency, that white
>> > > historical figures should be played by white actors. And if
>> > > they aren’t, we at least shouldn’t mock those who think
>> > > they should.
>> > >
>> > > Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who.
>> > > After all, it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway,
>> > > there’s another new episode on Saturday, and it may yet
>> > > surprise us all. Perhaps in this one, the Doctor will travel
>> > > back in time to meet Mary Seacole, played by Keira Knightley.
>> > > Or Muhammad Ali, played by Colin Firth.
>> >
>> > Still a non-White Newton?
>>
>> Yes, why not, %?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley)
>> as Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the
>> Gander"!!
>
>Well, he's half-Indian and his real name isn't Ben Kingsley...

Some poeple like Idlehnads-mouth Dannyboy are not keeping up.
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 by: The Coca Cola Kid - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:38 UTC

On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 4:24:20 AM UTC-5, solar penguin wrote:
> The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>
> >
> > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
> >
>
> A failing by once-respected newspaper resorts to clickbait rants
> in a desperate attempt to grab a few more readers.
>
> How have the mighty fallen...

That pretty much applies to most media these days. Including Doctor Who, which is blatantly engaging in trollbait marketing.

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In article <nnd$214cc329$69ef2394@5def00fe4bf7faed>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> Daniel65 wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 7/12/23 12:13 pm:
>>> In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>> Racist T. Davies should be ashamed of himself, the degenerate
>>>> woke hypocrite.
>>>>
>>>>
>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>>>>
>>>> The Doctor Who casting row has exposed the hypocrisy of the woke
>>>> Left
>>>>
>>>> If the tables were turned, and a white actor was cast to play a
>>>> non-white historical character, high-minded progressives would
>>>> be up in arms
>>>>
>>>> 6 December 2023 • 7:00pm Michael Deacon
>>>>
>>>> Nathaniel Curtis appeared as Isaac Newton in Doctor Who
>>>>
>>>> I don’t know how many viewers still enjoy Doctor Who. But
>>>> I’m sure its producers do. More and more, the show feels like
>>>> a deeply self-satisfied exercise in Left-wing trolling. You can
>>>> just picture its producers squealing with glee, as they compete
>>>> to think of ways to wind up stuffy old Tories.
>>>>
>>>> “How about we get an alien to state its preferred pronouns!
>>>> The Mail will be furious!” “And how about the Doctor meets
>>>> Isaac Newton – and develops a gay crush on him! They’ll be
>>>> so triggered!”
>>>>
>>>> But the thing that delighted the producers most of all, I
>>>> imagine, was a certain piece of casting. Isaac Newton was
>>>> white. Yet, in last Saturday’s Doctor Who, the actor cast to
>>>> play him was Nathaniel Curtis – who is mixed-race.
>>>>
>>>> Ever since, Left-wing media outlets have been in their element.
>>>> “Doctor Who Upsets Conservatives as Isaac Newton Played by
>>>> Person of Colour,” chortled a typical headline. The Poke, a
>>>> British satirical website, had great fun mocking anyone who
>>>> objected. Just look at these silly gammon! Doctor Who is a work
>>>> of fiction, not a documentary! It isn’t meant to be realistic!
>>>>
>>>> True enough. I can’t help feeling, though, that these
>>>> Left-wing outlets are missing the point. The problem is not the
>>>> casting. It’s the hypocrisy. Because if the tables were
>>>> turned, and a white actor were cast to play a non-white
>>>> historical character, high-minded progressives would not be
>>>> giggling at anyone who complained. Far from it. They’d be
>>>> apoplectically denouncing it as a racist whitewashing of
>>>> history.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, I can’t strictly prove that, because these days
>>>> there isn’t a chance in hell that a white actor would be cast
>>>> as a non-white historical figure. It used to happen: for
>>>> example, in the 1956 film The Conqueror, when John Wayne played
>>>> the Mongol emperor Genghis Khan. And, that same year, in The
>>>> Ten Commandments, when Yul Brynner played the Egyptian pharaoh
>>>> Rameses II.
>>>>
>>>> Today, though, no sane director would dare do such a thing. In
>>>> our inclusive modern world, casting is meant to be
>>>> “authentic”. And not just when it comes to race. In 2018,
>>>> Scarlett Johansson hastily withdrew from a film after online
>>>> outrage over her casting. The character she’d been hired to
>>>> play was trans – and therefore, raged her critics, the actor
>>>> must be trans, too.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps she should have seen the row coming. Three years
>>>> earlier, Eddie Redmayne had played a trans woman in The Danish
>>>> Girl. His performance won him an Oscar nomination.
>>>> Subsequently, however, the uproar over this piece of
>>>> “inauthentic” casting grew to such a furious pitch that he
>>>> regretted ever agreeing to it. “I made that film with the
>>>> best intentions, but I think it was a mistake,” he whimpered,
>>>> in 2021.
>>>>
>>>> It’s not the only time he’s been in this type of trouble,
>>>> either. In 2014, he was cast to play Stephen Hawking – even
>>>> though Redmayne is able-bodied. “We wouldn’t accept actors
>>>> blacking up,” thundered a columnist in The Guardian, “so why
>>>> applaud ‘cripping up’?”
>>>>
>>>> A perfectly fair question. But if, these days, we want casting
>>>> to be authentic, the rules must apply to every group. Which
>>>> surely means, for the sake of consistency, that white
>>>> historical figures should be played by white actors. And if
>>>> they aren’t, we at least shouldn’t mock those who think
>>>> they should.
>>>>
>>>> Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who.
>>>> After all, it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway,
>>>> there’s another new episode on Saturday, and it may yet
>>>> surprise us all. Perhaps in this one, the Doctor will travel
>>>> back in time to meet Mary Seacole, played by Keira Knightley.
>>>> Or Muhammad Ali, played by Colin Firth.
>>>
>>> Still a non-White Newton?
>>
>> Yes, why not, asswipe?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley)
>> as Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the
>> Gander"!!
>
> Well, he's half-Indian and his real name isn't Ben Kingsley...

Born in England of Indian parents, lets say ....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Kingsley

Born Krishna Pandit Bhanji

31 December 1943 (age 79)
Snainton, North Riding of Yorkshire, England
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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:12 UTC

In article <uksg12$19621$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>In article <nnd$214cc329$69ef2394@5def00fe4bf7faed>,
>Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 7/12/23 12:13 pm:
>>>> In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>> Racist T. Davies should be ashamed of himself, the degenerate
>>>>> woke hypocrite.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>>>>>
>>>>> The Doctor Who casting row has exposed the hypocrisy of the woke
>>>>> Left
>>>>>
>>>>> If the tables were turned, and a white actor was cast to play a
>>>>> non-white historical character, high-minded progressives would
>>>>> be up in arms
>>>>>
>>>>> 6 December 2023 • 7:00pm Michael Deacon
>>>>>
>>>>> Nathaniel Curtis appeared as Isaac Newton in Doctor Who
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t know how many viewers still enjoy Doctor Who. But
>>>>> I’m sure its producers do. More and more, the show
>feels like
>>>>> a deeply self-satisfied exercise in Left-wing trolling. You can
>>>>> just picture its producers squealing with glee, as they compete
>>>>> to think of ways to wind up stuffy old Tories.
>>>>>
>>>>> “How about we get an alien to state its preferred pronouns!
>>>>> The Mail will be furious!” “And how
>about the Doctor meets
>>>>> Isaac Newton – and develops a gay crush on him!
>They’ll be
>>>>> so triggered!”
>>>>>
>>>>> But the thing that delighted the producers most of all, I
>>>>> imagine, was a certain piece of casting. Isaac Newton was
>>>>> white. Yet, in last Saturday’s Doctor Who, the
>actor cast to
>>>>> play him was Nathaniel Curtis – who is mixed-race.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ever since, Left-wing media outlets have been in their element.
>>>>> “Doctor Who Upsets Conservatives as Isaac Newton Played by
>>>>> Person of Colour,” chortled a typical headline. The Poke, a
>>>>> British satirical website, had great fun mocking anyone who
>>>>> objected. Just look at these silly gammon! Doctor Who is a work
>>>>> of fiction, not a documentary! It isn’t meant to
>be realistic!
>>>>>
>>>>> True enough. I can’t help feeling, though, that these
>>>>> Left-wing outlets are missing the point. The problem is not the
>>>>> casting. It’s the hypocrisy. Because if the tables were
>>>>> turned, and a white actor were cast to play a non-white
>>>>> historical character, high-minded progressives would not be
>>>>> giggling at anyone who complained. Far from it. They’d be
>>>>> apoplectically denouncing it as a racist whitewashing of
>>>>> history.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I can’t strictly prove that, because these days
>>>>> there isn’t a chance in hell that a white actor
>would be cast
>>>>> as a non-white historical figure. It used to happen: for
>>>>> example, in the 1956 film The Conqueror, when John Wayne played
>>>>> the Mongol emperor Genghis Khan. And, that same year, in The
>>>>> Ten Commandments, when Yul Brynner played the Egyptian pharaoh
>>>>> Rameses II.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, though, no sane director would dare do such a thing. In
>>>>> our inclusive modern world, casting is meant to be
>>>>> “authentic”. And not just when it
>comes to race. In 2018,
>>>>> Scarlett Johansson hastily withdrew from a film after online
>>>>> outrage over her casting. The character she’d been
>hired to
>>>>> play was trans – and therefore, raged her critics,
>the actor
>>>>> must be trans, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps she should have seen the row coming. Three years
>>>>> earlier, Eddie Redmayne had played a trans woman in The Danish
>>>>> Girl. His performance won him an Oscar nomination.
>>>>> Subsequently, however, the uproar over this piece of
>>>>> “inauthentic” casting grew to such a
>furious pitch that he
>>>>> regretted ever agreeing to it. “I made that film with the
>>>>> best intentions, but I think it was a mistake,” he whimpered,
>>>>> in 2021.
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s not the only time he’s been
>in this type of trouble,
>>>>> either. In 2014, he was cast to play Stephen Hawking
>– even
>>>>> though Redmayne is able-bodied. “We
>wouldn’t accept actors
>>>>> blacking up,” thundered a columnist in The Guardian,
>“so why
>>>>> applaud ‘cripping up’?”
>>>>>
>>>>> A perfectly fair question. But if, these days, we want casting
>>>>> to be authentic, the rules must apply to every group. Which
>>>>> surely means, for the sake of consistency, that white
>>>>> historical figures should be played by white actors. And if
>>>>> they aren’t, we at least
>shouldn’t mock those who think
>>>>> they should.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still, there’s no point getting worked up about
>Doctor Who.
>>>>> After all, it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway,
>>>>> there’s another new episode on Saturday, and it may yet
>>>>> surprise us all. Perhaps in this one, the Doctor will travel
>>>>> back in time to meet Mary Seacole, played by Keira Knightley.
>>>>> Or Muhammad Ali, played by Colin Firth.
>>>>
>>>> Still a non-White Newton?
>>>
>>> Yes, why not, asswipe?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley)
>>> as Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the
>>> Gander"!!
>>
>> Well, he's half-Indian and his real name isn't Ben Kingsley...
>
>Born in England of Indian parents, lets say ....
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Kingsley
>
>Born Krishna Pandit Bhanji
>
>31 December 1943 (age 79)
>Snainton, North Riding of Yorkshire, England
>--
>Daniel

Now you get it!
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In article <uksg12$19621$1@dont-email.me>, daniel47@nomail.afraid.org
says...
>
> In article <nnd$214cc329$69ef2394@5def00fe4bf7faed>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Daniel65 wrote:
> >> Yes, why not, asswipe?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley)
> >> as Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the
> >> Gander"!!
> >
> > Well, he's half-Indian and his real name isn't Ben Kingsley...
>
> Born in England of Indian parents, lets say ....
>
> Born Krishna Pandit Bhanji

So, half-Indian and his real name isn't Ben Kingsley then... ;-)

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 by: Blueshirt - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:20 UTC

In article <cbf7390d-53b5-4ebf-8636-9af5708730d7n@googlegroups.com>,
thecocacolakid@gmail.com says...
>
> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 4:24:20 AM UTC-5, solar penguin wrote:
> > The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
> >
> > A failing by once-respected newspaper resorts to clickbait rants
> > in a desperate attempt to grab a few more readers.
> >
> > How have the mighty fallen...
>
> That pretty much applies to most media these days. Including Doctor Who, which is blatantly engaging in trollbait marketing.

Yeah, online media these days is mainly all about website 'hits' and
trackers, as opposed to giving you actual news.

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 by: The True Doctor - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:43 UTC

On 07/12/2023 09:22, solar penguin wrote:
> The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>>
>
> A failing by once-respected newspaper resorts to clickbait rants
> in a desperate attempt to grab a few more readers.
>
> How have the mighty fallen...
>

The failing racist woke retards defend using racism themselves while
claiming that those who speak out against racism are racists, thus
proving the headline to be true. Hypocrites!

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 by: The True Doctor - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:47 UTC

On 07/12/2023 09:54, Daniel65 wrote:
> The Doctor wrote on 7/12/23 12:13 pm:
>> In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>> Racist T. Davies should be ashamed of himself, the degenerate woke
>>> hypocrite.
>>>
>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>>>
> >> The Doctor Who casting row has exposed the hypocrisy of the woke Left
>>>
>>> If the tables were turned, and a white actor was cast to play a
>>> non-white historical character, high-minded progressives would be
>>> up in arms
>>>
>>> 6 December 2023 • 7:00pm Michael Deacon
>>>
>>> Nathaniel Curtis appeared as Isaac Newton in Doctor Who
>>>
>>> I don’t know how many viewers still enjoy Doctor Who. But I’m
>>> sure its producers do. More and more, the show feels like a deeply
>>> self-satisfied exercise in Left-wing trolling. You can just picture
>>> its producers squealing with glee, as they compete to think of ways
>>> to wind up stuffy old Tories.
>>>
>>> “How about we get an alien to state its preferred pronouns! The
>>> Mail will be furious!” “And how about the Doctor meets Isaac
>>> Newton – and develops a gay crush on him! They’ll be so
>>> triggered!”
>>>
>>> But the thing that delighted the producers most of all, I imagine,
>>> was a certain piece of casting. Isaac Newton was white. Yet, in
>>> last Saturday’s Doctor Who, the actor cast to play him was
>>> Nathaniel Curtis – who is mixed-race.
>>>
>>> Ever since, Left-wing media outlets have been in their element.
>>> “Doctor Who Upsets Conservatives as Isaac Newton Played by Person
>>> of Colour,” chortled a typical headline. The Poke, a British
>>> satirical website, had great fun mocking anyone who objected. Just
>>> look at these silly gammon! Doctor Who is a work of fiction, not a
>>> documentary! It isn’t meant to be realistic!
>>>
>>> True enough. I can’t help feeling, though, that these Left-wing
>>> outlets are missing the point. The problem is not the casting.
>>> It’s the hypocrisy. Because if the tables were turned, and a
>>> white actor were cast to play a non-white historical character,
>>> high-minded progressives would not be giggling at anyone who
>>> complained. Far from it. They’d be apoplectically denouncing it
>>> as a racist whitewashing of history.
>>>
>>> Of course, I can’t strictly prove that, because these days there
>>> isn’t a chance in hell that a white actor would be cast as a
>>> non-white historical figure. It used to happen: for example, in the
>>> 1956 film The Conqueror, when John Wayne played the Mongol emperor
>>> Genghis Khan. And, that same year, in The Ten Commandments, when
>>> Yul Brynner played the Egyptian pharaoh Rameses II.
>>>
>>> Today, though, no sane director would dare do such a thing. In our
>>> inclusive modern world, casting is meant to be “authentic”. And
>>> not just when it comes to race. In 2018, Scarlett Johansson hastily
>>> withdrew from a film after online outrage over her casting. The
>>> character she’d been hired to play was trans – and therefore,
>>> raged her critics, the actor must be trans, too.
>>>
>>> Perhaps she should have seen the row coming. Three years earlier,
>>> Eddie Redmayne had played a trans woman in The Danish Girl. His
>>> performance won him an Oscar nomination. Subsequently, however, the
>>> uproar over this piece of “inauthentic” casting grew to such a
>>> furious pitch that he regretted ever agreeing to it. “I made that
>>> film with the best intentions, but I think it was a mistake,” he
>>> whimpered, in 2021.
>>>
>>> It’s not the only time he’s been in this type of trouble,
>>> either. In 2014, he was cast to play Stephen Hawking – even
>>> though Redmayne is able-bodied. “We wouldn’t accept actors
>>> blacking up,” thundered a columnist in The Guardian, “so why
>>> applaud ‘cripping up’?”
>>>
>>> A perfectly fair question. But if, these days, we want casting to
>>> be authentic, the rules must apply to every group. Which surely
>>> means, for the sake of consistency, that white historical figures
>>> should be played by white actors. And if they aren’t, we at least
>>> shouldn’t mock those who think they should.
>>>
>>> Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who. After
>>> all, it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway, there’s
>>> another new episode on Saturday, and it may yet surprise us all.
>>> Perhaps in this one, the Doctor will travel back in time to meet
>>> Mary Seacole, played by Keira Knightley. Or Muhammad Ali, played by
>>> Colin Firth.
>>
>> Still a non-White Newton?
>
> Yes, why not, asswipe?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley) as
> Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander"!!
>

You mean they cast Krishna Pandit Bhanji as Gandhi.

> How could 'they'?!?!

Because he was Indian himself and had to put on brownface in order to
make his portrayal look convincing.

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:53 UTC

In article <MPG.3fdc4537df7b7be098969e@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>In article <uksg12$19621$1@dont-email.me>, daniel47@nomail.afraid.org
>says...
>>
>> In article <nnd$214cc329$69ef2394@5def00fe4bf7faed>,
>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > Daniel65 wrote:
>> >> Yes, why not, asswipe?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley)
>> >> as Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the
>> >> Gander"!!
>> >
>> > Well, he's half-Indian and his real name isn't Ben Kingsley...
>>
>> Born in England of Indian parents, lets say ....
>>
>> Born Krishna Pandit Bhanji
>
>So, half-Indian and his real name isn't Ben Kingsley then... ;-)

Now you got it!
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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:53 UTC

In article <MPG.3fdc4784fb56d93898969f@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>In article <cbf7390d-53b5-4ebf-8636-9af5708730d7n@googlegroups.com>,
>thecocacolakid@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 4:24:20�AM UTC-5, solar penguin wrote:
>> > The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>> >
>> > A failing by once-respected newspaper resorts to clickbait rants
>> > in a desperate attempt to grab a few more readers.
>> >
>> > How have the mighty fallen...
>>
>> That pretty much applies to most media these days. Including Doctor
>Who, which is blatantly engaging in trollbait marketing.
>
>Yeah, online media these days is mainly all about website 'hits' and
>trackers, as opposed to giving you actual news.

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:55 UTC

In article <uktla8$1eobp$2@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 07/12/2023 09:22, solar penguin wrote:
>> The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>>>
>>
>> A failing by once-respected newspaper resorts to clickbait rants
>> in a desperate attempt to grab a few more readers.
>>
>> How have the mighty fallen...
>>
>
>The failing racist woke retards defend using racism themselves while
>claiming that those who speak out against racism are racists, thus
>proving the headline to be true. Hypocrites!
>
>
>
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>
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>stands for." -William Shatner
>

Woke is dope!
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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:57 UTC

In article <uktliu$1eobp$3@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 07/12/2023 09:54, Daniel65 wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 7/12/23 12:13 pm:
>>> In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>> Racist T. Davies should be ashamed of himself, the degenerate woke
>>>> hypocrite.
>>>>
>>>>
>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>>>>
>> >> The Doctor Who casting row has exposed the hypocrisy of the woke Left
>>>>
>>>> If the tables were turned, and a white actor was cast to play a
>>>> non-white historical character, high-minded progressives would be
>>>> up in arms
>>>>
>>>> 6 December 2023 • 7:00pm Michael Deacon
>>>>
>>>> Nathaniel Curtis appeared as Isaac Newton in Doctor Who
>>>>
>>>> I don’t know how many viewers still enjoy Doctor Who. But I’m
>>>> sure its producers do. More and more, the show feels like a deeply
>>>> self-satisfied exercise in Left-wing trolling. You can just picture
>>>> its producers squealing with glee, as they compete to think of ways
>>>> to wind up stuffy old Tories.
>>>>
>>>> “How about we get an alien to state its preferred pronouns! The
>>>> Mail will be furious!” “And how about the Doctor meets Isaac
>>>> Newton – and develops a gay crush on him! They’ll be so
>>>> triggered!”
>>>>
>>>> But the thing that delighted the producers most of all, I imagine,
>>>> was a certain piece of casting. Isaac Newton was white. Yet, in
>>>> last Saturday’s Doctor Who, the actor cast to play him was
>>>> Nathaniel Curtis – who is mixed-race.
>>>>
>>>> Ever since, Left-wing media outlets have been in their element.
>>>> “Doctor Who Upsets Conservatives as Isaac Newton Played by Person
>>>> of Colour,” chortled a typical headline. The Poke, a British
>>>> satirical website, had great fun mocking anyone who objected. Just
>>>> look at these silly gammon! Doctor Who is a work of fiction, not a
>>>> documentary! It isn’t meant to be realistic!
>>>>
>>>> True enough. I can’t help feeling, though, that these Left-wing
>>>> outlets are missing the point. The problem is not the casting.
>>>> It’s the hypocrisy. Because if the tables were turned, and a
>>>> white actor were cast to play a non-white historical character,
>>>> high-minded progressives would not be giggling at anyone who
>>>> complained. Far from it. They’d be apoplectically denouncing it
>>>> as a racist whitewashing of history.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, I can’t strictly prove that, because these days there
>>>> isn’t a chance in hell that a white actor would be cast as a
>>>> non-white historical figure. It used to happen: for example, in the
>>>> 1956 film The Conqueror, when John Wayne played the Mongol emperor
>>>> Genghis Khan. And, that same year, in The Ten Commandments, when
>>>> Yul Brynner played the Egyptian pharaoh Rameses II.
>>>>
>>>> Today, though, no sane director would dare do such a thing. In our
>>>> inclusive modern world, casting is meant to be “authentic”. And
>>>> not just when it comes to race. In 2018, Scarlett Johansson hastily
>>>> withdrew from a film after online outrage over her casting. The
>>>> character she’d been hired to play was trans – and therefore,
>>>> raged her critics, the actor must be trans, too.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps she should have seen the row coming. Three years earlier,
>>>> Eddie Redmayne had played a trans woman in The Danish Girl. His
>>>> performance won him an Oscar nomination. Subsequently, however, the
>>>> uproar over this piece of “inauthentic” casting grew to such a
>>>> furious pitch that he regretted ever agreeing to it. “I made that
>>>> film with the best intentions, but I think it was a mistake,” he
>>>> whimpered, in 2021.
>>>>
>>>> It’s not the only time he’s been in this type of trouble,
>>>> either. In 2014, he was cast to play Stephen Hawking – even
>>>> though Redmayne is able-bodied. “We wouldn’t accept actors
>>>> blacking up,” thundered a columnist in The Guardian, “so why
>>>> applaud ‘cripping up’?”
>>>>
>>>> A perfectly fair question. But if, these days, we want casting to
>>>> be authentic, the rules must apply to every group. Which surely
>>>> means, for the sake of consistency, that white historical figures
>>>> should be played by white actors. And if they aren’t, we at least
>>>> shouldn’t mock those who think they should.
>>>>
>>>> Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who. After
>>>> all, it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway, there’s
>>>> another new episode on Saturday, and it may yet surprise us all.
>>>> Perhaps in this one, the Doctor will travel back in time to meet
>>>> Mary Seacole, played by Keira Knightley. Or Muhammad Ali, played by
>>>> Colin Firth.
>>>
>>> Still a non-White Newton?
>>
>> Yes, why not, asswipe?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley) as
>> Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander"!!
>>
>
>You mean they cast Krishna Pandit Bhanji as Gandhi.
>
>> How could 'they'?!?!
>
>Because he was Indian himself and had to put on brownface in order to
>make his portrayal look convincing.
>

And the accusation of Trudeau being blackface ...

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>
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>stands for." -William Shatner
>

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On 07/12/2023 23:57, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <uktliu$1eobp$3@dont-email.me>,
> The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>> On 07/12/2023 09:54, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 7/12/23 12:13 pm:
>>>> In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>> Racist T. Davies should be ashamed of himself, the degenerate woke
>>>>> hypocrite.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>>>>>
>>> >> The Doctor Who casting row has exposed the hypocrisy of the woke Left
>>>>>
>>>>> If the tables were turned, and a white actor was cast to play a
>>>>> non-white historical character, high-minded progressives would be
>>>>> up in arms
>>>>>
>>>>> 6 December 2023 • 7:00pm Michael Deacon
>>>>>
>>>>> Nathaniel Curtis appeared as Isaac Newton in Doctor Who
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t know how many viewers still enjoy Doctor Who. But I’m
>>>>> sure its producers do. More and more, the show feels like a deeply
>>>>> self-satisfied exercise in Left-wing trolling. You can just picture
>>>>> its producers squealing with glee, as they compete to think of ways
>>>>> to wind up stuffy old Tories.
>>>>>
>>>>> “How about we get an alien to state its preferred pronouns! The
>>>>> Mail will be furious!” “And how about the Doctor meets Isaac
>>>>> Newton – and develops a gay crush on him! They’ll be so
>>>>> triggered!”
>>>>>
>>>>> But the thing that delighted the producers most of all, I imagine,
>>>>> was a certain piece of casting. Isaac Newton was white. Yet, in
>>>>> last Saturday’s Doctor Who, the actor cast to play him was
>>>>> Nathaniel Curtis – who is mixed-race.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ever since, Left-wing media outlets have been in their element.
>>>>> “Doctor Who Upsets Conservatives as Isaac Newton Played by Person
>>>>> of Colour,” chortled a typical headline. The Poke, a British
>>>>> satirical website, had great fun mocking anyone who objected. Just
>>>>> look at these silly gammon! Doctor Who is a work of fiction, not a
>>>>> documentary! It isn’t meant to be realistic!
>>>>>
>>>>> True enough. I can’t help feeling, though, that these Left-wing
>>>>> outlets are missing the point. The problem is not the casting.
>>>>> It’s the hypocrisy. Because if the tables were turned, and a
>>>>> white actor were cast to play a non-white historical character,
>>>>> high-minded progressives would not be giggling at anyone who
>>>>> complained. Far from it. They’d be apoplectically denouncing it
>>>>> as a racist whitewashing of history.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I can’t strictly prove that, because these days there
>>>>> isn’t a chance in hell that a white actor would be cast as a
>>>>> non-white historical figure. It used to happen: for example, in the
>>>>> 1956 film The Conqueror, when John Wayne played the Mongol emperor
>>>>> Genghis Khan. And, that same year, in The Ten Commandments, when
>>>>> Yul Brynner played the Egyptian pharaoh Rameses II.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, though, no sane director would dare do such a thing. In our
>>>>> inclusive modern world, casting is meant to be “authentic”. And
>>>>> not just when it comes to race. In 2018, Scarlett Johansson hastily
>>>>> withdrew from a film after online outrage over her casting. The
>>>>> character she’d been hired to play was trans – and therefore,
>>>>> raged her critics, the actor must be trans, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps she should have seen the row coming. Three years earlier,
>>>>> Eddie Redmayne had played a trans woman in The Danish Girl. His
>>>>> performance won him an Oscar nomination. Subsequently, however, the
>>>>> uproar over this piece of “inauthentic” casting grew to such a
>>>>> furious pitch that he regretted ever agreeing to it. “I made that
>>>>> film with the best intentions, but I think it was a mistake,” he
>>>>> whimpered, in 2021.
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s not the only time he’s been in this type of trouble,
>>>>> either. In 2014, he was cast to play Stephen Hawking – even
>>>>> though Redmayne is able-bodied. “We wouldn’t accept actors
>>>>> blacking up,” thundered a columnist in The Guardian, “so why
>>>>> applaud ‘cripping up’?”
>>>>>
>>>>> A perfectly fair question. But if, these days, we want casting to
>>>>> be authentic, the rules must apply to every group. Which surely
>>>>> means, for the sake of consistency, that white historical figures
>>>>> should be played by white actors. And if they aren’t, we at least
>>>>> shouldn’t mock those who think they should.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who. After
>>>>> all, it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway, there’s
>>>>> another new episode on Saturday, and it may yet surprise us all.
>>>>> Perhaps in this one, the Doctor will travel back in time to meet
>>>>> Mary Seacole, played by Keira Knightley. Or Muhammad Ali, played by
>>>>> Colin Firth.
>>>>
>>>> Still a non-White Newton?
>>>
>>> Yes, why not, asswipe?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley) as
>>> Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander"!!
>>>
>>
>> You mean they cast Krishna Pandit Bhanji as Gandhi.
>>
>>> How could 'they'?!?!
>>
>> Because he was Indian himself and had to put on brownface in order to
>> make his portrayal look convincing.
>>
>
> And the accusation of Trudeau being blackface ...
>

Trudeau never broke any law by wearing blackface just like Prince Harry
didn't break any law dressing up as a Nazi. The difference between them
is one of them is a woke hypocrite.

>> --
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>>
>> "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>> stands for." -William Shatner
>>
>
>

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 by: The Doctor - Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:22 UTC

In article <uktni0$1evlg$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 07/12/2023 23:57, The Doctor wrote:
>> In article <uktliu$1eobp$3@dont-email.me>,
>> The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>> On 07/12/2023 09:54, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 7/12/23 12:13 pm:
>>>>> In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>> Racist T. Davies should be ashamed of himself, the degenerate woke
>>>>>> hypocrite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>>>>>>
>>>> >> The Doctor Who casting row has exposed the hypocrisy of the woke Left
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the tables were turned, and a white actor was cast to play a
>>>>>> non-white historical character, high-minded progressives would be
>>>>>> up in arms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6 December 2023 • 7:00pm Michael Deacon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathaniel Curtis appeared as Isaac Newton in Doctor Who
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don’t know how many viewers still enjoy Doctor Who. But
>I’m
>>>>>> sure its producers do. More and more, the show feels like a deeply
>>>>>> self-satisfied exercise in Left-wing trolling. You can just picture
>>>>>> its producers squealing with glee, as they compete to think of ways
>>>>>> to wind up stuffy old Tories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “How about we get an alien to state its preferred pronouns! The
>>>>>> Mail will be furious!” “And how about the Doctor meets Isaac
>>>>>> Newton – and develops a gay crush on him! They’ll be so
>>>>>> triggered!”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the thing that delighted the producers most of all, I imagine,
>>>>>> was a certain piece of casting. Isaac Newton was white. Yet, in
>>>>>> last Saturday’s Doctor Who, the actor cast to play him was
>>>>>> Nathaniel Curtis – who is mixed-race.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ever since, Left-wing media outlets have been in their element.
>>>>>> “Doctor Who Upsets Conservatives as Isaac Newton Played by Person
>>>>>> of Colour,” chortled a typical headline. The Poke, a British
>>>>>> satirical website, had great fun mocking anyone who objected. Just
>>>>>> look at these silly gammon! Doctor Who is a work of fiction, not a
>>>>>> documentary! It isn’t meant to be realistic!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> True enough. I can’t help feeling, though, that these Left-wing
>>>>>> outlets are missing the point. The problem is not the casting.
>>>>>> It’s the hypocrisy. Because if the tables were turned, and a
>>>>>> white actor were cast to play a non-white historical character,
>>>>>> high-minded progressives would not be giggling at anyone who
>>>>>> complained. Far from it. They’d be apoplectically denouncing it
>>>>>> as a racist whitewashing of history.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, I can’t strictly prove that, because these days there
>>>>>> isn’t a chance in hell that a white actor would be cast as a
>>>>>> non-white historical figure. It used to happen: for example, in the
>>>>>> 1956 film The Conqueror, when John Wayne played the Mongol emperor
>>>>>> Genghis Khan. And, that same year, in The Ten Commandments, when
>>>>>> Yul Brynner played the Egyptian pharaoh Rameses II.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today, though, no sane director would dare do such a thing. In our
>>>>>> inclusive modern world, casting is meant to be
>“authentic”. And
>>>>>> not just when it comes to race. In 2018, Scarlett Johansson hastily
>>>>>> withdrew from a film after online outrage over her casting. The
>>>>>> character she’d been hired to play was trans – and
>therefore,
>>>>>> raged her critics, the actor must be trans, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps she should have seen the row coming. Three years earlier,
>>>>>> Eddie Redmayne had played a trans woman in The Danish Girl. His
>>>>>> performance won him an Oscar nomination. Subsequently, however, the
>>>>>> uproar over this piece of “inauthentic” casting grew to such a
>>>>>> furious pitch that he regretted ever agreeing to it. “I made that
>>>>>> film with the best intentions, but I think it was a mistake,” he
>>>>>> whimpered, in 2021.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It’s not the only time he’s been in this type of trouble,
>>>>>> either. In 2014, he was cast to play Stephen Hawking – even
>>>>>> though Redmayne is able-bodied. “We wouldn’t accept actors
>>>>>> blacking up,” thundered a columnist in The Guardian, “so why
>>>>>> applaud ‘cripping up’?”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A perfectly fair question. But if, these days, we want casting to
>>>>>> be authentic, the rules must apply to every group. Which surely
>>>>>> means, for the sake of consistency, that white historical figures
>>>>>> should be played by white actors. And if they aren’t, we at least
>>>>>> shouldn’t mock those who think they should.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who. After
>>>>>> all, it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway, there’s
>>>>>> another new episode on Saturday, and it may yet surprise us all.
>>>>>> Perhaps in this one, the Doctor will travel back in time to meet
>>>>>> Mary Seacole, played by Keira Knightley. Or Muhammad Ali, played by
>>>>>> Colin Firth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still a non-White Newton?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, why not, asswipe?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley) as
>>>> Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander"!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> You mean they cast Krishna Pandit Bhanji as Gandhi.
>>>
>>>> How could 'they'?!?!
>>>
>>> Because he was Indian himself and had to put on brownface in order to
>>> make his portrayal look convincing.
>>>
>>
>> And the accusation of Trudeau being blackface ...
>>
>
>Trudeau never broke any law by wearing blackface just like Prince Harry
>didn't break any law dressing up as a Nazi. The difference between them
>is one of them is a woke hypocrite.
>

Got you!

>>> --
>>> The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>>>
>>> "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>>> stands for." -William Shatner
>>>
>>
>>
>
>--
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>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
>

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 8 Dec 2023 10:09 UTC

The True Doctor wrote on 8/12/23 10:47 am:
> On 07/12/2023 09:54, Daniel65 wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 7/12/23 12:13 pm:
>>> In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

<Snip>

>>>> Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who. After
>>>> all, it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway, there’s
>>>> another new episode on Saturday, and it may yet surprise us all.
>>>> Perhaps in this one, the Doctor will travel back in time to meet
>>>> Mary Seacole, played by Keira Knightley. Or Muhammad Ali, played by
>>>> Colin Firth.
>>>
>>> Still a non-White Newton?
>>
>> Yes, why not, asswipe?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley) as
>> Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the
>> Gander"!!
>
> You mean they cast Krishna Pandit Bhanji as Gandhi.

At that time he was known, at least PROFESSIONAL, as 'Ben Kingsley'!!

>> How could 'they'?!?!
>
> Because he was Indian himself and had to put on brownface in order to
> make his portrayal look convincing.

SAY WHAT?? An Indian had to put on 'brownface' to make himself look Indian!!

Really??
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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 8 Dec 2023 10:12 UTC

The Coca Cola Kid wrote on 7/12/23 11:38 pm:
> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 4:24:20 AM UTC-5, solar penguin
> wrote:
>> The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/12/06/doctor-who-casting-row-isaac-newton-woke-left-hypocrisy/
>>>
>> A failing by once-respected newspaper resorts to clickbait rants
>> in a desperate attempt to grab a few more readers.
>>
>> How have the mighty fallen...
>
> That pretty much applies to most media these days. Including Doctor
> Who, which is blatantly engaging in trollbait marketing.
>
What?? "Doctor Who" is 'media'!! Really??
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On 08/12/2023 10:09, Daniel65 wrote:
> The True Doctor wrote on 8/12/23 10:47 am:
>> On 07/12/2023 09:54, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 7/12/23 12:13 pm:
>>>> In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
>>>>> Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who. After
>>>>> all, it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway, there’s
>>>>> another new episode on Saturday, and it may yet surprise us all.
>>>>> Perhaps in this one, the Doctor will travel back in time to meet
>>>>> Mary Seacole, played by Keira Knightley. Or Muhammad Ali, played by
>>>>> Colin Firth.
>>>>
>>>> Still a non-White Newton?
>>>
>>> Yes, why not, asswipe?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley) as
>>> Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the
>>> Gander"!!
>>
>> You mean they cast Krishna Pandit Bhanji as Gandhi.
>
> At that time he was known, at least PROFESSIONAL, as 'Ben Kingsley'!!
>
>>> How could 'they'?!?!
>>
>> Because he was Indian himself and had to put on brownface in order to
>> make his portrayal look convincing.
>
> SAY WHAT?? An Indian had to put on 'brownface' to make himself look
> Indian!!

Yes.

>
> Really??

Of course.

Contrary to what the woke racists and bigots want you to believe, skin
colour in India varies from light skinned which is almost
indistinguishable from Mediterranean (think Greek colonies set up by
Alexander the Great and Persian and Islamic immigration) to very dark
skinned which is blacker than the darkest black people from Africa who
and was known to Herodotus who called them Indian Aethiopians.

Of course Krishna Pandit Bhanji had to put on brownface and sit under
the sun lamp to play Gandhi. It would have been completely inauthentic
if he hadn't. Even Johnny Depp put on brown face to play Captain Jack
Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean (at least that's what it looked like
to me given he was wearing dreadlocks as well to look mixed race) and
Tonto in The Lone Ranger, both of which were made by Woke Disney.

See the actors and movies listed below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownface

And left me point out to the degenerate hypocritical woke racists and
bigots, there is absolutely nothing wrong with wearing brownface,
blackface, yellowface, oliveface, or even whiteface to look like a
character you are playing. Even black actor Lenny Henry put on whiteface
in True Identity and Eddie Murphy and Arsenio Hall wore whiteface in
Coming to America and Coming2America.

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 by: The Doctor - Fri, 8 Dec 2023 15:17 UTC

In article <ukuq0f$1mvpj$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The True Doctor wrote on 8/12/23 10:47 am:
>> On 07/12/2023 09:54, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 7/12/23 12:13 pm:
>>>> In article <ukr4js$vkl3$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>
><Snip>
>
>>>>> Still, there’s no point getting worked up about Doctor Who. After
>>>>> all, it’s just a bit of light-hearted fun. Anyway, there’s
>>>>> another new episode on Saturday, and it may yet surprise us all.
>>>>> Perhaps in this one, the Doctor will travel back in time to meet
>>>>> Mary Seacole, played by Keira Knightley. Or Muhammad Ali, played by
>>>>> Colin Firth.
>>>>
>>>> Still a non-White Newton?
>>>
>>> Yes, why not, asswipe?? I mean 'they' cast a Whitee (Ben Kingsley) as
>>> Gandhi back in 1982!! "What's good for the Goose is good for the
>>> Gander"!!
>>
>> You mean they cast Krishna Pandit Bhanji as Gandhi.
>
>At that time he was known, at least PROFESSIONAL, as 'Ben Kingsley'!!
>

And still is; just like Peter Moffatt is known as Peter Davison.

>>> How could 'they'?!?!
>>
>> Because he was Indian himself and had to put on brownface in order to
>> make his portrayal look convincing.
>
>SAY WHAT?? An Indian had to put on 'brownface' to make himself look Indian!!
>
>Really??
>--
>Daniel

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