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 by: Daniel65 - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 09:06 UTC

Still reading the archives (not much happening here!!) and, in a thread
titled "Title Sequence", one of the Posters typed ....

Quote
New title sequences were made for:

- An Unearthly Child (of course) (yes, I know the music on the pilot
version is slightly different... a thunderclap or two)
End Quote.

As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' *WAS* the first episode,
there never was a Pilot Episode.

Does anyone, today, know any different??
--
Daniel

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Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> Still reading the archives (not much happening here!!) and, in a thread
> titled "Title Sequence", one of the Posters typed ....
>
> Quote
> New title sequences were made for:
>
> - An Unearthly Child (of course) (yes, I know the music on the pilot
> version is slightly different... a thunderclap or two)
> End Quote.
>
> As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' *WAS* the first episode,
> there never was a Pilot Episode.
>
> Does anyone, today, know any different??

Yes.

There was an unaired pilot version of An Unearthly Child, with
some small differences from the canon version.

--
solar penguin

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Daniel65 wrote:

> Still reading the archives (not much happening here!!) and, in
> a thread titled "Title Sequence", one of the Posters typed ....
>
> Quote
> New title sequences were made for:
>
> - An Unearthly Child (of course) (yes, I know the music on the
> pilot version is slightly different... a thunderclap or two)
> End Quote.
>
> As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' WAS the first
> episode, there never was a Pilot Episode.

See, you did learn something from RADW!
> Does anyone, today, know any different??

Of course. As SP has pointed out there was a pilot episode of
Doctor Who...

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 12:10 UTC

In article <utgtb7$245gl$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Still reading the archives (not much happening here!!) and, in a thread
>titled "Title Sequence", one of the Posters typed ....
>
>Quote
>New title sequences were made for:
>
>- An Unearthly Child (of course) (yes, I know the music on the pilot
>version is slightly different... a thunderclap or two)
>End Quote.
>
>As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' *WAS* the first episode,
>there never was a Pilot Episode.
>
>Does anyone, today, know any different??

There are a few copies of different version of An Unearthly child.

>--
>Daniel

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 12:10 UTC

In article <utgvf9$24l7u$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Still reading the archives (not much happening here!!) and, in a thread
>> titled "Title Sequence", one of the Posters typed ....
>>
>> Quote
>> New title sequences were made for:
>>
>> - An Unearthly Child (of course) (yes, I know the music on the pilot
>> version is slightly different... a thunderclap or two)
>> End Quote.
>>
>> As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' *WAS* the first episode,
>> there never was a Pilot Episode.
>>
>> Does anyone, today, know any different??
>
>Yes.
>
>There was an unaired pilot version of An Unearthly Child, with
>some small differences from the canon version.
>

There are a few out there.

>--
>solar penguin

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 12:12 UTC

In article <xn0ojl24r62rykc001@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Daniel65 wrote:
>
>> Still reading the archives (not much happening here!!) and, in
>> a thread titled "Title Sequence", one of the Posters typed ....
>>
>> Quote
>> New title sequences were made for:
>>
>> - An Unearthly Child (of course) (yes, I know the music on the
>> pilot version is slightly different... a thunderclap or two)
>> End Quote.
>>
>> As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' WAS the first
>> episode, there never was a Pilot Episode.
>
>See, you did learn something from RADW!
>
>> Does anyone, today, know any different??
>
>Of course. As SP has pointed out there was a pilot episode of
>Doctor Who...

Ever saw the Hartnell years?
--
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 by: Daniel65 - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 13:25 UTC

solar penguin wrote on 21/3/24 8:43 pm:
> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Still reading the archives (not much happening here!!) and, in a thread
>> titled "Title Sequence", one of the Posters typed ....
>>
>> Quote
>> New title sequences were made for:
>>
>> - An Unearthly Child (of course) (yes, I know the music on the pilot
>> version is slightly different... a thunderclap or two)
>> End Quote.
>>
>> As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' *WAS* the first episode,
>> there never was a Pilot Episode.
>>
>> Does anyone, today, know any different??
>
> Yes.
>
> There was an unaired pilot version of An Unearthly Child, with
> some small differences from the canon version.
>
If it was 'unaired', how do 'we' know it exists/exited?
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 13:27 UTC

Blueshirt wrote on 21/3/24 9:08 pm:
> Daniel65 wrote:
>
>> Still reading the archives (not much happening here!!) and, in
>> a thread titled "Title Sequence", one of the Posters typed ....
>>
>> Quote
>> New title sequences were made for:
>>
>> - An Unearthly Child (of course) (yes, I know the music on the
>> pilot version is slightly different... a thunderclap or two)
>> End Quote.
>>
>> As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' WAS the first
>> episode, there never was a Pilot Episode.
>
> See, you did learn something from RADW!
>
>> Does anyone, today, know any different??
>
> Of course. As SP has pointed out there was a pilot episode of
> Doctor Who...
>
So was the 'unaired pilot version' ever broadcast/released??
--
Daniel

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 by: Blueshirt - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 14:54 UTC

Daniel65 wrote:

> Blueshirt wrote on 21/3/24 9:08 pm:
> > Daniel65 wrote:
> > >
> > > As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' WAS the first
> > > episode, there never was a Pilot Episode.
> >
> > See, you did learn something from RADW!
> >
> > > Does anyone, today, know any different??
> >
> > Of course. As SP has pointed out there was a pilot episode of
> > Doctor Who...
> >
> So was the 'unaired pilot version' ever broadcast/released??

Yes. The "An Unearthly Child" pilot episode has been released by
the BBC on VHS (Doctor Who: The Hartnell Years") and DVD
("Doctor Who: The Beginning").

The pilot episode will almost certainly be on the Doctor Who:
Blu Ray Collection release when they get around to doing Season
1. (The original S1, you might say.)

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Daniel65 wrote:

> solar penguin wrote on 21/3/24 8:43 pm:
> >Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone, today, know any different??
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > There was an unaired pilot version of An Unearthly Child,
> > with some small differences from the canon version.
> >
> If it was 'unaired', how do 'we' know it exists/exited?

The rejected first episode of "An Unearthly Child" was never a
secret, people knew about it before it was shown in the
nineties. Doctor Who books and magazines would have mentioned it
throughout the years, and RADW too obviously... plus the 'pilot
episode' has also been officially released on video and DVD.

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 by: Blueshirt - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 15:12 UTC

The Doctor wrote:

> In article <utgtb7$245gl$1@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> > Still reading the archives (not much happening here!!) and,
> > in a thread titled "Title Sequence", one of the Posters
> > typed ....
> >
> > Quote
> > New title sequences were made for:
> >
> > - An Unearthly Child (of course) (yes, I know the music on
> > the pilot version is slightly different... a thunderclap or
> > two) End Quote.
> >
> > As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' WAS the first
> > episode, there never was a Pilot Episode.
> >
> > Does anyone, today, know any different??
>
> There are a few copies of different version of An Unearthly
> child.

Well done Dave, yes there is!

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 by: Blueshirt - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 15:16 UTC

The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0ojl24r62rykc001@reader.xsnews.nl>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Daniel65 wrote:
> >>
> >> As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' WAS the first
> >> episode, there never was a Pilot Episode.
> >>
> >> Does anyone, today, know any different??
> >
> > Of course. As SP has pointed out there was a pilot episode of
> > Doctor Who...
>
> Ever saw the Hartnell years?

I had that VHS.

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Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> solar penguin wrote on 21/3/24 8:43 pm:
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> Still reading the archives (not much happening
>>>
>>> As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' *WAS* the first episode,
>>> there never was a Pilot Episode.
>>>
>>> Does anyone, today, know any different??
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> There was an unaired pilot version of An Unearthly Child, with
>> some small differences from the canon version.
>>
> If it was 'unaired', how do 'we' know it exists/exited?

It eventually aired in the nineties as part of a celebration of
Lime Grove studios, and it was included in the Doctor Who: The
Early Years VHS, and as an extra on the An Unearthly Child DVD.

--
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solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> solar penguin wrote on 21/3/24 8:43 pm:
>>>
>>> There was an unaired pilot version of An Unearthly Child,
>>> with some small differences from the canon version.
>>>
>> If it was 'unaired', how do 'we' know it exists/exited?
>
> It eventually aired in the nineties as part of a celebration of
> Lime Grove studios, and it was included in the Doctor Who: The
> Early Years VHS,

Oops. That should be The Hartnell Years.

> and as an extra on the An Unearthly Child DVD.
>

And it probably would be available on iPlayer too if Coburn’s son
wasn’t such a twat.

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 23:18 UTC

In article <uthcg8$27k05$2@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>solar penguin wrote on 21/3/24 8:43 pm:
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> Still reading the archives (not much happening here!!) and, in a thread
>>> titled "Title Sequence", one of the Posters typed ....
>>>
>>> Quote
>>> New title sequences were made for:
>>>
>>> - An Unearthly Child (of course) (yes, I know the music on the pilot
>>> version is slightly different... a thunderclap or two)
>>> End Quote.
>>>
>>> As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' *WAS* the first episode,
>>> there never was a Pilot Episode.
>>>
>>> Does anyone, today, know any different??
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> There was an unaired pilot version of An Unearthly Child, with
>> some small differences from the canon version.
>>
>If it was 'unaired', how do 'we' know it exists/exited?

Where were you in the 1990s?
>--
>Daniel

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 23:20 UTC

In article <uthcjr$27k05$3@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Blueshirt wrote on 21/3/24 9:08 pm:
>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>
>>> Still reading the archives (not much happening here!!) and, in
>>> a thread titled "Title Sequence", one of the Posters typed ....
>>>
>>> Quote
>>> New title sequences were made for:
>>>
>>> - An Unearthly Child (of course) (yes, I know the music on the
>>> pilot version is slightly different... a thunderclap or two)
>>> End Quote.
>>>
>>> As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' WAS the first
>>> episode, there never was a Pilot Episode.
>>
>> See, you did learn something from RADW!
>>
>>> Does anyone, today, know any different??
>>
>> Of course. As SP has pointed out there was a pilot episode of
>> Doctor Who...
>>
>So was the 'unaired pilot version' ever broadcast/released??

So have seen it! Clue!

>--
>Daniel

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 23:20 UTC

In article <xn0ojl9l56czpd500c@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Daniel65 wrote:
>
>> Blueshirt wrote on 21/3/24 9:08 pm:
>> > Daniel65 wrote:
>> > >
>> > > As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' WAS the first
>> > > episode, there never was a Pilot Episode.
>> >
>> > See, you did learn something from RADW!
>> >
>> > > Does anyone, today, know any different??
>> >
>> > Of course. As SP has pointed out there was a pilot episode of
>> > Doctor Who...
>> >
>> So was the 'unaired pilot version' ever broadcast/released??
>
>Yes. The "An Unearthly Child" pilot episode has been released by
>the BBC on VHS (Doctor Who: The Hartnell Years") and DVD
>("Doctor Who: The Beginning").
>
>The pilot episode will almost certainly be on the Doctor Who:
>Blu Ray Collection release when they get around to doing Season
>1. (The original S1, you might say.)

You have to wonder about red-beard.
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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 23:20 UTC

In article <xn0ojl9v86d96k400d@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Daniel65 wrote:
>
>> solar penguin wrote on 21/3/24 8:43 pm:
>> >Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone, today, know any different??
>> >
>> > Yes.
>> >
>> > There was an unaired pilot version of An Unearthly Child,
>> > with some small differences from the canon version.
>> >
>> If it was 'unaired', how do 'we' know it exists/exited?
>
>The rejected first episode of "An Unearthly Child" was never a
>secret, people knew about it before it was shown in the
>nineties. Doctor Who books and magazines would have mentioned it
>throughout the years, and RADW too obviously... plus the 'pilot
>episode' has also been officially released on video and DVD.

And we know becuase ...
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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 23:21 UTC

In article <xn0ojla4v6dn3hj00f@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <utgtb7$245gl$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> > Still reading the archives (not much happening here!!) and,
>> > in a thread titled "Title Sequence", one of the Posters
>> > typed ....
>> >
>> > Quote
>> > New title sequences were made for:
>> >
>> > - An Unearthly Child (of course) (yes, I know the music on
>> > the pilot version is slightly different... a thunderclap or
>> > two) End Quote.
>> >
>> > As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' WAS the first
>> > episode, there never was a Pilot Episode.
>> >
>> > Does anyone, today, know any different??
>>
>> There are a few copies of different version of An Unearthly
>> child.
>
>Well done Dave, yes there is!

You do have to wonder about some people.
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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 23:22 UTC

In article <xn0ojla866drurs00g@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <xn0ojl24r62rykc001@reader.xsnews.nl>,
>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > Daniel65 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' WAS the first
>> >> episode, there never was a Pilot Episode.
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone, today, know any different??
>> >
>> > Of course. As SP has pointed out there was a pilot episode of
>> > Doctor Who...
>>
>> Ever saw the Hartnell years?
>
>I had that VHS.

Same here!
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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 23:22 UTC

In article <uthj32$29c0q$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> solar penguin wrote on 21/3/24 8:43 pm:
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> Still reading the archives (not much happening
>>>>
>>>> As far as I ever knew 'An Unearthly Child' *WAS* the first episode,
>>>> there never was a Pilot Episode.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone, today, know any different??
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> There was an unaired pilot version of An Unearthly Child, with
>>> some small differences from the canon version.
>>>
>> If it was 'unaired', how do 'we' know it exists/exited?
>
>It eventually aired in the nineties as part of a celebration of
>Lime Grove studios, and it was included in the Doctor Who: The
>Early Years VHS, and as an extra on the An Unearthly Child DVD.
>

Ever got a copy?

>--
>solar penguin

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 23:23 UTC

In article <uthjvn$29k1v$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> solar penguin wrote on 21/3/24 8:43 pm:
>>>>
>>>> There was an unaired pilot version of An Unearthly Child,
>>>> with some small differences from the canon version.
>>>>
>>> If it was 'unaired', how do 'we' know it exists/exited?
>>
>> It eventually aired in the nineties as part of a celebration of
>> Lime Grove studios, and it was included in the Doctor Who: The
>> Early Years VHS,
>
>Oops. That should be The Hartnell Years.
>
>> and as an extra on the An Unearthly Child DVD.
>>
>
>And it probably would be available on iPlayer too if Coburn’s son
>wasn’t such a twat.
>

Oh! Well!!

>--
>solar penguin

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 by: solar penguin - Fri, 22 Mar 2024 07:27 UTC

The Idiot insisted:

> In article <xn0ojla4v6dn3hj00f@reader.xsnews.nl>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> There are a few copies of different version of An Unearthly
>>> child.
>>
>> Well done Dave, yes there is!
>
> You do have to wonder about some people.

Good idea. I’ll start by wondering about you.

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 22 Mar 2024 10:02 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 22/3/24 10:20 am:

<Snip>

> You have to wonder about red-beard.
>
Oh!! Thank you, "Yellow Beard Yadallee", for thinking I might actually
HAVE a 'red beard'!!
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 by: Blueshirt - Fri, 22 Mar 2024 10:02 UTC

The Doctor wrote:

> In article <uthcg8$27k05$2@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> > solar penguin wrote on 21/3/24 8:43 pm:
> >>
> >> There was an unaired pilot version of An Unearthly Child,
> >> with some small differences from the canon version.
> >>
> > If it was 'unaired', how do 'we' know it exists/exited?
>
> Where were you in the 1990s?

At a guess, Australia! ;-)

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