Jake posted a photo today of himself, Aubry, Ethan, and Michele from 2017 at a Survivor event. If you read through the comments, you'll see that Jake had applied for Survivor at least six years ago. The photo is also proof that Aubry and Michele weren't bitter enemies back then.

https://twitter.com/jakeo_kane/status/1740067673537405245

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"Brian Smith" wrote in message
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>Jake posted a photo today of himself, Aubry, Ethan, and Michele from 2017
>at a Survivor event. If you read through the comments, you'll see that Jake
>had applied for Survivor at least six years ago. The photo is also proof
>that Aubry and Michele weren't bitter enemies back then.
>
>https://twitter.com/jakeo_kane/status/1740067673537405245
>
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>Brian

One thing that really surprised me during the season was that one challenge
where Jake remembered numbers by equating them to Survivor seasons and
visualizing the winners. The fact that Jake knew all the Survivor winners
by season numbers was pretty counter-intuitive and made me see him in a
different light from how he was coming across.

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On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 6:50:25 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> news:8cecbe5e-14b4-4bb6...@googlegroups.com...
> >
> >Jake posted a photo today of himself, Aubry, Ethan, and Michele from 2017
> >at a Survivor event. If you read through the comments, you'll see that Jake
> >had applied for Survivor at least six years ago. The photo is also proof
> >that Aubry and Michele weren't bitter enemies back then.
> >
> >https://twitter.com/jakeo_kane/status/1740067673537405245
> >
> >--
> >Brian
> One thing that really surprised me during the season was that one challenge
> where Jake remembered numbers by equating them to Survivor seasons and
> visualizing the winners. The fact that Jake knew all the Survivor winners
> by season numbers was pretty counter-intuitive and made me see him in a
> different light from how he was coming across.
>
> --

That was the challenge on the beach to get an advantage in the F5 IC.

I don't understand when you say Jake knowing the winners by season number was counter-intuitive. What's counter-intuitive about it?

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"Brian Smith" wrote in message
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>On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 6:50:25 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> news:8cecbe5e-14b4-4bb6...@googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> >Jake posted a photo today of himself, Aubry, Ethan, and Michele from
>> >2017
>> >at a Survivor event. If you read through the comments, you'll see that
>> >Jake
>> >had applied for Survivor at least six years ago. The photo is also proof
>> >that Aubry and Michele weren't bitter enemies back then.
>> >
>> >https://twitter.com/jakeo_kane/status/1740067673537405245
>> >
>> >--
>> >Brian
>> One thing that really surprised me during the season was that one
>> challenge
>> where Jake remembered numbers by equating them to Survivor seasons and
>> visualizing the winners. The fact that Jake knew all the Survivor winners
>> by season numbers was pretty counter-intuitive and made me see him in a
>> different light from how he was coming across.
>>
>> --
>
>That was the challenge on the beach to get an advantage in the F5 IC.
>
>I don't understand when you say Jake knowing the winners by season number
>was counter-intuitive. What's counter-intuitive about it?
>
>--
>Brian

It's just that he comes across in so many other ways as kind of a doofus --
forgetting to take the keys in a challenge and then not seeing the puzzle
piece, etc; the way he comes across to the camera sometimes, etc. He just
didn't strike me as someone with the wherewithal to memorize all the
survivor winners by season number.

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On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 8:17:48 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> news:25ca07cf-40a8-4b6d...@googlegroups.com...
> >
> >On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 6:50:25 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> news:8cecbe5e-14b4-4bb6...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> >Jake posted a photo today of himself, Aubry, Ethan, and Michele from
> >> >2017
> >> >at a Survivor event. If you read through the comments, you'll see that
> >> >Jake
> >> >had applied for Survivor at least six years ago. The photo is also proof
> >> >that Aubry and Michele weren't bitter enemies back then.
> >> >
> >> >https://twitter.com/jakeo_kane/status/1740067673537405245
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Brian
> >> One thing that really surprised me during the season was that one
> >> challenge
> >> where Jake remembered numbers by equating them to Survivor seasons and
> >> visualizing the winners. The fact that Jake knew all the Survivor winners
> >> by season numbers was pretty counter-intuitive and made me see him in a
> >> different light from how he was coming across.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >That was the challenge on the beach to get an advantage in the F5 IC.
> >
> >I don't understand when you say Jake knowing the winners by season number
> >was counter-intuitive. What's counter-intuitive about it?
> >
> >--
> >Brian
> It's just that he comes across in so many other ways as kind of a doofus --
> forgetting to take the keys in a challenge and then not seeing the puzzle
> piece, etc; the way he comes across to the camera sometimes, etc. He just
> didn't strike me as someone with the wherewithal to memorize all the
> survivor winners by season number.
>
> --

I see! It's even worse when you consider that he forgot the keys and didn't see the block in the challenge to which he had a won an advantage for earlier the same day thanks to being able to remember three numbers based on his having memorized who had won those numbered seasons.

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On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 19:46:30 -0800 (PST), Brian Smith
<dcg_brian@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 8:17:48?PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> news:25ca07cf-40a8-4b6d...@googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> >On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 6:50:25 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> news:8cecbe5e-14b4-4bb6...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >Jake posted a photo today of himself, Aubry, Ethan, and Michele from
>> >> >2017
>> >> >at a Survivor event. If you read through the comments, you'll see that
>> >> >Jake
>> >> >had applied for Survivor at least six years ago. The photo is also proof
>> >> >that Aubry and Michele weren't bitter enemies back then.
>> >> >
>> >> >https://twitter.com/jakeo_kane/status/1740067673537405245
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Brian
>> >> One thing that really surprised me during the season was that one
>> >> challenge
>> >> where Jake remembered numbers by equating them to Survivor seasons and
>> >> visualizing the winners. The fact that Jake knew all the Survivor winners
>> >> by season numbers was pretty counter-intuitive and made me see him in a
>> >> different light from how he was coming across.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >
>> >That was the challenge on the beach to get an advantage in the F5 IC.
>> >
>> >I don't understand when you say Jake knowing the winners by season number
>> >was counter-intuitive. What's counter-intuitive about it?
>> >
>> >--
>> >Brian
>> It's just that he comes across in so many other ways as kind of a doofus --
>> forgetting to take the keys in a challenge and then not seeing the puzzle
>> piece, etc; the way he comes across to the camera sometimes, etc. He just
>> didn't strike me as someone with the wherewithal to memorize all the
>> survivor winners by season number.
>>
>> --
>
>I see! It's even worse when you consider that he forgot the keys and didn't see the block in the challenge to which he had a won an advantage for earlier the same day thanks to being able to remember three numbers based on his having memorized who had won those numbered seasons.

I wonder if he was just one of those people who was more heavily
impacted by the lack of food. Some people seem to handle it better
than others.

shawn wrote:

> I wonder if he was just one of those people who was more
> heavily impacted by the lack of food. Some people seem to
> handle it better than others.

He did pass out and had spasms/seizures (?) so he definitely
struggled in a more dramatic way than what we saw the other
players do.

I liked Jake and got to respect him and thought maybe I would
have voted for him, just saying from watching the show.

But FTC was one big Dee show, she had the whole aura of
a winner, I think that settled it on top of her overall
solid game.

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"Emanuel Berg" wrote in message news:87a5ptoyt7.fsf@dataswamp.org...
>
>shawn wrote:
>
>> I wonder if he was just one of those people who was more
>> heavily impacted by the lack of food. Some people seem to
>> handle it better than others.
>
>He did pass out and had spasms/seizures (?) so he definitely
>struggled in a more dramatic way than what we saw the other
>players do.
>

I believe it was also explained that he had lost a lot of weight before
coming on the show. I think he said in an interview that he had weighed 287
pounds due to binge eating. So if he ended up losing say 50-100 pounds
before coming on the show, or even 30 pounds - that severe a weight loss
combined with no protein intake during the first several days of the show
could very definitely lead to dizziness. I once lost something like 50
pounds over a period of a couple of months, and I definitely recall being
light-headed, even with normal calorie intake.

>I liked Jake and got to respect him and thought maybe I would
>have voted for him, just saying from watching the show.
>
>But FTC was one big Dee show, she had the whole aura of
>a winner, I think that settled it on top of her overall
>solid game.
>

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On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 1:19:27 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> "Emanuel Berg" wrote in message news:87a5pto...@dataswamp.org...
> >
> >shawn wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder if he was just one of those people who was more
> >> heavily impacted by the lack of food. Some people seem to
> >> handle it better than others.
> >
> >He did pass out and had spasms/seizures (?) so he definitely
> >struggled in a more dramatic way than what we saw the other
> >players do.
> >
> I believe it was also explained that he had lost a lot of weight before
> coming on the show. I think he said in an interview that he had weighed 287
> pounds due to binge eating. So if he ended up losing say 50-100 pounds
> before coming on the show, or even 30 pounds - that severe a weight loss
> combined with no protein intake during the first several days of the show
> could very definitely lead to dizziness. I once lost something like 50
> pounds over a period of a couple of months, and I definitely recall being
> light-headed, even with normal calorie intake.
> >I liked Jake and got to respect him and thought maybe I would
> >have voted for him, just saying from watching the show.

Did he say how quickly he lost the weight? I wish the edit had explained why they showed him fall into the fire and blackout at least twice. I kept expecting that to be a factor in why he didn't win but we were left hanging. Or did they need material to fill those episodes?

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Brian Smith wrote:

> Did he say how quickly he lost the weight? I wish the edit
> had explained why they showed him fall into the fire and
> blackout at least twice. I kept expecting that to be
> a factor in why he didn't win but we were left hanging.
> Or did they need material to fill those episodes?

A pretty dramatic thing to show?

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Rick wrote:

> I believe it was also explained that he had lost a lot of
> weight before coming on the show. I think he said in an
> interview that he had weighed 287 pounds due to binge
> eating. So if he ended up losing say 50-100 pounds before
> coming on the show, or even 30 pounds - that severe a weight
> loss combined with no protein intake during the first
> several days of the show could very definitely lead to
> dizziness. I once lost something like 50 pounds over
> a period of a couple of months, and I definitely recall
> being light-headed, even with normal calorie intake.

Sure, a lot of guys have passed out on Survivor. Boston Rob in
his second season and that bodybuilder/athlete guy in S35,
"Heroes vs Healers vs Hustlers". It happens.

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"Emanuel Berg" wrote in message news:8734vkjxyq.fsf@dataswamp.org...
>
>Rick wrote:
>
>> I believe it was also explained that he had lost a lot of
>> weight before coming on the show. I think he said in an
>> interview that he had weighed 287 pounds due to binge
>> eating. So if he ended up losing say 50-100 pounds before
>> coming on the show, or even 30 pounds - that severe a weight
>> loss combined with no protein intake during the first
>> several days of the show could very definitely lead to
>> dizziness. I once lost something like 50 pounds over
>> a period of a couple of months, and I definitely recall
>> being light-headed, even with normal calorie intake.
>
>Sure, a lot of guys have passed out on Survivor. Boston Rob in
>his second season and that bodybuilder/athlete guy in S35,
>"Heroes vs Healers vs Hustlers". It happens.
>

And, most famously, he who will not be named (at least no one likes to talk
about him because of reasons)...aka Mike Skupin, who fell in the fire on
Season 2 after blacking out from supposedly inhaling smoke.

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 22:06:22 -0500, "Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote:

>And, most famously, he who will not be named (at least no one likes to talk
>about him because of reasons)...aka Mike Skupin, who fell in the fire on
>Season 2 after blacking out from supposedly inhaling smoke.

I don't remember hearing anything like that at the time though I
definitely watched season 2.

Did he hit on somebody? Is that what you're saying?

On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 10:48:50 PM UTC-7, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 22:06:22 -0500, "Rick" <ri...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >And, most famously, he who will not be named (at least no one likes to talk
> >about him because of reasons)...aka Mike Skupin, who fell in the fire on
> >Season 2 after blacking out from supposedly inhaling smoke.
> I don't remember hearing anything like that at the time though I
> definitely watched season 2.
>
> Did he hit on somebody? Is that what you're saying?

About a year after he played in Survivor Philippines, he started having legal problems. In 2016 he was charged on a number of counts related to larceny and racketeering. During the investigation child porn was discovered on his laptop. He ended up doing prison time. I'm pretty sure we discussed all of this stuff back then. IIRC, it was like he was leading a double life.

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Brian Smith wrote:

> About a year after he played in Survivor Philippines, he
> started having legal problems. In 2016 he was charged on
> a number of counts related to larceny and racketeering.
> During the investigation child porn was discovered on his
> laptop. He ended up doing prison time. I'm pretty sure we
> discussed all of this stuff back then. IIRC, it was like he
> was leading a double life.

I think all people who do horrible crime do :)

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