I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
personality is by now very common in modern society, and the
Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist in
society as well and since island life one would think would be
right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
well every time IMO.

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On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
> personality is by now very common in modern society, and the
> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist in
> society as well and since island life one would think would be
> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
> well every time IMO.
>
> --

I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in the New Era? Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of her doing a Zoom or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting producers. Katurah was mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as fucking hell! I check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking the right boxes is pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have submitted one hell of an audition video to get cast.

--
Brian

Brian Smith wrote:

> I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in
> the New Era?

What about Sandra? :)

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"Brian Smith" wrote in message
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>
>On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
>> personality is by now very common in modern society, and the
>> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
>> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist in
>> society as well and since island life one would think would be
>> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
>> well every time IMO.
>>
>> --
>
>I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in the New Era?
>Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of her doing a Zoom
>or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting producers. Katurah was
>mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as fucking hell! I
>check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking the right boxes is
>pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have submitted one hell of
>an audition video to get cast.
>
>--
>Brian

Well even with diversity, you still need at least one token straight smart
white girl, and they got that with Emily.

Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy with Jake.

--

On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
> >
> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
> >> personality is by now very common in modern society, and the
> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist in
> >> society as well and since island life one would think would be
> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
> >> well every time IMO.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in the New Era?
> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of her doing a Zoom
> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting producers. Katurah was
> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as fucking hell! I
> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking the right boxes is
> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have submitted one hell of
> >an audition video to get cast.
> >
> >--
> >Brian
> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one token straight smart
> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
>
> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy with Jake.
>
> --

Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early on. Hopefully in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't cast them.

--
Brian

On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:32:46 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Brian Smith wrote:
>
> > I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in
> > the New Era?
> What about Sandra? :)
> --

Sandra would get cast for sure. Someone like Jeff Kent wouldn't get past the first stage of casting.

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"Brian Smith" wrote in message
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>
>On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
>> >> personality is by now very common in modern society, and the
>> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
>> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist in
>> >> society as well and since island life one would think would be
>> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
>> >> well every time IMO.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >
>> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in the New Era?
>> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of her doing a
>> >Zoom
>> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting producers. Katurah was
>> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as fucking hell!
>> >I
>> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking the right boxes
>> >is
>> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have submitted one hell
>> >of
>> >an audition video to get cast.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Brian
>> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one token straight
>> smart
>> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
>>
>> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy with Jake.
>>
>> --
>
>Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early on. Hopefully
>in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't cast them.
>
>--
>Brian

Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if they ever do
returning players again. Last I heard was that they want to focus on new
players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while before they do
another all-stars or second chances or something like that.

--

Rick wrote:

> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if
> they ever do returning players again. Last I heard was that
> they want to focus on new players in the "new era" so it
> will probably be a while before they do another all-stars or
> second chances or something like that.

Also, we have said a lot of times, this player is so cool
he/she will return, and that didn't happen. Well, so far
at least it didn't.

Some examples. Jay Starrett from "Millennials vs Gen X".

Kellee Kim, Noura Salman, Dean Kowalski, in that order, from
"Island of the Idols".

And many more.

Not saying Emily can't return tho, good for her if she does.

Go Emily \o/

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On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
> >
> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern society, and the
> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist in
> >> >> society as well and since island life one would think would be
> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
> >> >> well every time IMO.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >
> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in the New Era?
> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of her doing a
> >> >Zoom
> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting producers. Katurah was
> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as fucking hell!
> >> >I
> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking the right boxes
> >> >is
> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have submitted one hell
> >> >of
> >> >an audition video to get cast.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Brian
> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one token straight
> >> smart
> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
> >>
> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy with Jake.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early on. Hopefully
> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't cast them.
> >
> >--
> >Brian
> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if they ever do
> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want to focus on new
> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while before they do
> another all-stars or second chances or something like that.
>
> --

Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but that clearly didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about a year or so ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to bring back yet. My guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will be all returning but not necessarily just from the New Era. Hopefully Emily is willing to play again.

--
Brian

"Brian Smith" wrote in message
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>
>On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
>> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern society, and the
>> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
>> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist in
>> >> >> society as well and since island life one would think would be
>> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
>> >> >> well every time IMO.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >
>> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in the New
>> >> >Era?
>> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of her doing a
>> >> >Zoom
>> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting producers. Katurah
>> >> >was
>> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as fucking
>> >> >hell!
>> >> >I
>> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking the right
>> >> >boxes
>> >> >is
>> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have submitted one
>> >> >hell
>> >> >of
>> >> >an audition video to get cast.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Brian
>> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one token straight
>> >> smart
>> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
>> >>
>> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy with Jake.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >
>> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early on.
>> >Hopefully
>> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't cast them.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Brian
>> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if they ever do
>> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want to focus on new
>> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while before they do
>> another all-stars or second chances or something like that.
>>
>> --
>
>Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but that clearly
>didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about a year or so
>ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to bring back yet. My
>guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will be all
>returning but not necessarily just from the New Era. Hopefully Emily is
>willing to play again.
>
>--

She said in one of her interviews she would come back in a heartbeat, but
who knows how she will feel in another few years. When they kicked off the
new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the elimination of "themes"
and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41, Survivor 42 etc., which
could make a returning player season problematic.

I do like your optimism that the show will still be around for S50. Hard
to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no obvious replacement in
site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure who would or could
replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian franchise, would be
an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and spends a lot of time in
the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be possibilities, though
neither has ever lead a network series like this. They used to often
mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR is hanging in there
and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails" now. I hate to say
the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended) without Jeff, but it's
hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the lead role.

--

On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> news:018b96e5-275c-49b5...@googlegroups.com...
> >
> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> >> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
> >> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern society, and the
> >> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
> >> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist in
> >> >> >> society as well and since island life one would think would be
> >> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
> >> >> >> well every time IMO.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in the New
> >> >> >Era?
> >> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of her doing a
> >> >> >Zoom
> >> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting producers. Katurah
> >> >> >was
> >> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as fucking
> >> >> >hell!
> >> >> >I
> >> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking the right
> >> >> >boxes
> >> >> >is
> >> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have submitted one
> >> >> >hell
> >> >> >of
> >> >> >an audition video to get cast.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Brian
> >> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one token straight
> >> >> smart
> >> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
> >> >>
> >> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy with Jake.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >
> >> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early on.
> >> >Hopefully
> >> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't cast them..
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Brian
> >> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if they ever do
> >> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want to focus on new
> >> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while before they do
> >> another all-stars or second chances or something like that.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but that clearly
> >didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about a year or so
> >ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to bring back yet. My
> >guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will be all
> >returning but not necessarily just from the New Era. Hopefully Emily is
> >willing to play again.
> >
> >--
> She said in one of her interviews she would come back in a heartbeat, but
> who knows how she will feel in another few years. When they kicked off the
> new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the elimination of "themes"
> and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41, Survivor 42 etc., which
> could make a returning player season problematic.

Good to hear Emily is gung-ho about playing again but you're right that things can change down the road.

> I do like your optimism that the show will still be around for S50. Hard
> to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no obvious replacement in
> site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure who would or could
> replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian franchise, would be
> an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and spends a lot of time in
> the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be possibilities, though
> neither has ever lead a network series like this. They used to often
> mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR is hanging in there
> and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails" now. I hate to say
> the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended) without Jeff, but it's
> hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the lead role.
> --

65 isn't that old and Jeff's in good shape. Phil originally applied to be the host of Survivor, but Jeff got the job and Phil ended up getting TAR. With 90-minute episodes appearing to become permanent, I don't see TAR going anywhere. I also can't see anyone else hosting either show. Dalton probably has more knowledge about the show than anyone but I don't see that necessarily translating into him being a good host. Rob would be an interesting host but would he give up his podcasting empire? Also, who would be the showrunner?

--
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"Brian Smith" wrote in message
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>
>On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> news:018b96e5-275c-49b5...@googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg
>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
>> >> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern society, and the
>> >> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
>> >> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist in
>> >> >> >> society as well and since island life one would think would be
>> >> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
>> >> >> >> well every time IMO.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in the New
>> >> >> >Era?
>> >> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of her doing
>> >> >> >a
>> >> >> >Zoom
>> >> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting producers. Katurah
>> >> >> >was
>> >> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as fucking
>> >> >> >hell!
>> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking the right
>> >> >> >boxes
>> >> >> >is
>> >> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have submitted one
>> >> >> >hell
>> >> >> >of
>> >> >> >an audition video to get cast.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >Brian
>> >> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one token
>> >> >> straight
>> >> >> smart
>> >> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy with Jake.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >
>> >> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early on.
>> >> >Hopefully
>> >> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't cast
>> >> >them.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Brian
>> >> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if they ever
>> >> do
>> >> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want to focus on
>> >> new
>> >> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while before they do
>> >> another all-stars or second chances or something like that.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >
>> >Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but that clearly
>> >didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about a year or so
>> >ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to bring back yet.
>> >My
>> >guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will be all
>> >returning but not necessarily just from the New Era. Hopefully Emily is
>> >willing to play again.
>> >
>> >--
>> She said in one of her interviews she would come back in a heartbeat, but
>> who knows how she will feel in another few years. When they kicked off
>> the
>> new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the elimination of
>> "themes"
>> and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41, Survivor 42 etc.,
>> which
>> could make a returning player season problematic.
>
>Good to hear Emily is gung-ho about playing again but you're right that
>things can change down the road.
>
>> I do like your optimism that the show will still be around for S50. Hard
>> to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no obvious replacement
>> in
>> site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure who would or
>> could
>> replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian franchise, would
>> be
>> an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and spends a lot of time
>> in
>> the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be possibilities, though
>> neither has ever lead a network series like this. They used to often
>> mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR is hanging in
>> there
>> and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails" now. I hate to
>> say
>> the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended) without Jeff, but
>> it's
>> hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the lead role.
>> --
>
>65 isn't that old and Jeff's in good shape. Phil originally applied to be
>the host of Survivor, but Jeff got the job and Phil ended up getting TAR.
>With 90-minute episodes appearing to become permanent, I don't see TAR
>going anywhere. I also can't see anyone else hosting either show. Dalton
>probably has more knowledge about the show than anyone but I don't see that
>necessarily translating into him being a good host. Rob would be an
>interesting host but would he give up his podcasting empire?
>
>

Rob makes enough from podcasting to earn a small profit, but it's a drop in
the bucket compared to what he could make as the host of a network TV show.
Very few podcasters make enough to be independently wealthy, and Rob is
certainly not that. In contrast, Jeff is a multi-millionaire many times
over and could have walked away from the show in its early years and been
set for life (in fact, he almost did that till they made him showrunner).
So I have no doubt Rob would jump at the chance to host the show. But would
CBS offer him the job? I kind of doubt it. The only comparable situation I
can think of was the Jeopardy producers awarding Ken Jennings the hosting
job after Alex Trebek's death, but that was a different situation since
Jennings was widely regarded as the greatest Jeopardy player ever, and he
had played in many all-star and celebrity versions of the show, as well as
hosting a TV trivia series.. Rob is undeniably one of the great Survivor
players, but he's been out of the general public eye for a good 20 years,
would probably not be recognized by most Survivor viewers, and has no TV
hosting experience, as far as I know. I think I might still give the edge
to LaPaglia.

>Also, who would be the showrunner?

My guess would be Matt Van Wagenen

--

On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 7:46:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> news:ca30cb27-456a-4376...@googlegroups.com...
> >
> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> news:018b96e5-275c-49b5...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg
> >> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
> >> >> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern society, and the
> >> >> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
> >> >> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist in
> >> >> >> >> society as well and since island life one would think would be
> >> >> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
> >> >> >> >> well every time IMO.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in the New
> >> >> >> >Era?
> >> >> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of her doing
> >> >> >> >a
> >> >> >> >Zoom
> >> >> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting producers. Katurah
> >> >> >> >was
> >> >> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as fucking
> >> >> >> >hell!
> >> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking the right
> >> >> >> >boxes
> >> >> >> >is
> >> >> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have submitted one
> >> >> >> >hell
> >> >> >> >of
> >> >> >> >an audition video to get cast.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >Brian
> >> >> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one token
> >> >> >> straight
> >> >> >> smart
> >> >> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy with Jake.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early on.
> >> >> >Hopefully
> >> >> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't cast
> >> >> >them.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Brian
> >> >> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if they ever
> >> >> do
> >> >> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want to focus on
> >> >> new
> >> >> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while before they do
> >> >> another all-stars or second chances or something like that.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >
> >> >Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but that clearly
> >> >didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about a year or so
> >> >ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to bring back yet..
> >> >My
> >> >guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will be all
> >> >returning but not necessarily just from the New Era. Hopefully Emily is
> >> >willing to play again.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> She said in one of her interviews she would come back in a heartbeat, but
> >> who knows how she will feel in another few years. When they kicked off
> >> the
> >> new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the elimination of
> >> "themes"
> >> and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41, Survivor 42 etc.,
> >> which
> >> could make a returning player season problematic.
> >
> >Good to hear Emily is gung-ho about playing again but you're right that
> >things can change down the road.
> >
> >> I do like your optimism that the show will still be around for S50. Hard
> >> to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no obvious replacement
> >> in
> >> site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure who would or
> >> could
> >> replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian franchise, would
> >> be
> >> an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and spends a lot of time
> >> in
> >> the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be possibilities, though
> >> neither has ever lead a network series like this. They used to often
> >> mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR is hanging in
> >> there
> >> and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails" now. I hate to
> >> say
> >> the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended) without Jeff, but
> >> it's
> >> hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the lead role.
> >> --
> >
> >65 isn't that old and Jeff's in good shape. Phil originally applied to be
> >the host of Survivor, but Jeff got the job and Phil ended up getting TAR..
> >With 90-minute episodes appearing to become permanent, I don't see TAR
> >going anywhere. I also can't see anyone else hosting either show. Dalton
> >probably has more knowledge about the show than anyone but I don't see that
> >necessarily translating into him being a good host. Rob would be an
> >interesting host but would he give up his podcasting empire?
> >
> >
> Rob makes enough from podcasting to earn a small profit, but it's a drop in
> the bucket compared to what he could make as the host of a network TV show.
> Very few podcasters make enough to be independently wealthy, and Rob is
> certainly not that. In contrast, Jeff is a multi-millionaire many times
> over and could have walked away from the show in its early years and been
> set for life (in fact, he almost did that till they made him showrunner).
> So I have no doubt Rob would jump at the chance to host the show. But would
> CBS offer him the job? I kind of doubt it. The only comparable situation I
> can think of was the Jeopardy producers awarding Ken Jennings the hosting
> job after Alex Trebek's death, but that was a different situation since
> Jennings was widely regarded as the greatest Jeopardy player ever, and he
> had played in many all-star and celebrity versions of the show, as well as
> hosting a TV trivia series.. Rob is undeniably one of the great Survivor
> players, but he's been out of the general public eye for a good 20 years,
> would probably not be recognized by most Survivor viewers, and has no TV
> hosting experience, as far as I know. I think I might still give the edge
> to LaPaglia.

Rob could take the job and have people like Fishbach and Mike Bloom host the Survivor podcasts for him. I don't think being out of the public eye would be a huge problem. He's very well-known in the Survivor community and reintroducing him to the general public wouldn't be that hard. The problem would that his hosting style would likely be very different than Jeff's. If they go with a past player, it would likely be Boston Rob. He's got the name recognition, hosting experience, he's a past winner, part of the CBS family, and his hosting style would likely be very close to Jeff's.

"Brian Smith" wrote in message
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>
>On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 7:46:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> news:ca30cb27-456a-4376...@googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> news:018b96e5-275c-49b5...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg
>> >> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
>> >> >> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern society, and the
>> >> >> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
>> >> >> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist in
>> >> >> >> >> society as well and since island life one would think would
>> >> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
>> >> >> >> >> well every time IMO.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in the
>> >> >> >> >New
>> >> >> >> >Era?
>> >> >> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of her
>> >> >> >> >doing
>> >> >> >> >a
>> >> >> >> >Zoom
>> >> >> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting producers.
>> >> >> >> >Katurah
>> >> >> >> >was
>> >> >> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as
>> >> >> >> >fucking
>> >> >> >> >hell!
>> >> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking the
>> >> >> >> >right
>> >> >> >> >boxes
>> >> >> >> >is
>> >> >> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have submitted
>> >> >> >> >one
>> >> >> >> >hell
>> >> >> >> >of
>> >> >> >> >an audition video to get cast.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >> >Brian
>> >> >> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one token
>> >> >> >> straight
>> >> >> >> smart
>> >> >> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy with
>> >> >> >> Jake.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early on.
>> >> >> >Hopefully
>> >> >> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't cast
>> >> >> >them.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >Brian
>> >> >> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if they
>> >> >> ever
>> >> >> do
>> >> >> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want to focus
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> new
>> >> >> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while before they
>> >> >> do
>> >> >> another all-stars or second chances or something like that.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >
>> >> >Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but that
>> >> >clearly
>> >> >didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about a year or
>> >> >so
>> >> >ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to bring back
>> >> >yet.
>> >> >My
>> >> >guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will be all
>> >> >returning but not necessarily just from the New Era. Hopefully Emily
>> >> >is
>> >> >willing to play again.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> She said in one of her interviews she would come back in a heartbeat,
>> >> but
>> >> who knows how she will feel in another few years. When they kicked off
>> >> the
>> >> new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the elimination of
>> >> "themes"
>> >> and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41, Survivor 42 etc.,
>> >> which
>> >> could make a returning player season problematic.
>> >
>> >Good to hear Emily is gung-ho about playing again but you're right that
>> >things can change down the road.
>> >
>> >> I do like your optimism that the show will still be around for S50.
>> >> Hard
>> >> to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no obvious
>> >> replacement
>> >> in
>> >> site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure who would or
>> >> could
>> >> replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian franchise,
>> >> would
>> >> be
>> >> an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and spends a lot of
>> >> time
>> >> in
>> >> the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be possibilities,
>> >> though
>> >> neither has ever lead a network series like this. They used to often
>> >> mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR is hanging in
>> >> there
>> >> and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails" now. I hate to
>> >> say
>> >> the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended) without Jeff, but
>> >> it's
>> >> hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the lead role.
>> >> --
>> >
>> >65 isn't that old and Jeff's in good shape. Phil originally applied to
>> >be
>> >the host of Survivor, but Jeff got the job and Phil ended up getting
>> >TAR.
>> >With 90-minute episodes appearing to become permanent, I don't see TAR
>> >going anywhere. I also can't see anyone else hosting either show. Dalton
>> >probably has more knowledge about the show than anyone but I don't see
>> >that
>> >necessarily translating into him being a good host. Rob would be an
>> >interesting host but would he give up his podcasting empire?
>> >
>> >
>> Rob makes enough from podcasting to earn a small profit, but it's a drop
>> in
>> the bucket compared to what he could make as the host of a network TV
>> show.
>> Very few podcasters make enough to be independently wealthy, and Rob is
>> certainly not that. In contrast, Jeff is a multi-millionaire many times
>> over and could have walked away from the show in its early years and been
>> set for life (in fact, he almost did that till they made him showrunner).
>> So I have no doubt Rob would jump at the chance to host the show. But
>> would
>> CBS offer him the job? I kind of doubt it. The only comparable situation
>> I
>> can think of was the Jeopardy producers awarding Ken Jennings the hosting
>> job after Alex Trebek's death, but that was a different situation since
>> Jennings was widely regarded as the greatest Jeopardy player ever, and he
>> had played in many all-star and celebrity versions of the show, as well
>> as
>> hosting a TV trivia series.. Rob is undeniably one of the great Survivor
>> players, but he's been out of the general public eye for a good 20 years,
>> would probably not be recognized by most Survivor viewers, and has no TV
>> hosting experience, as far as I know. I think I might still give the edge
>> to LaPaglia.
>
>Rob could take the job and have people like Fishbach and Mike Bloom host
>the Survivor podcasts for him. I don't think being out of the public eye
>would be a huge problem. He's very well-known in the Survivor community and
>reintroducing him to the general public wouldn't be that hard. The problem
>would that his hosting style would likely be very different than Jeff's. If
>they go with a past player, it would likely be Boston Rob. He's got the
>name recognition, hosting experience, he's a past winner, part of the CBS
>family, and his hosting style would likely be very close to Jeff's.
>

On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 11:19:53 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> news:48316ed0-856c-4374...@googlegroups.com...
> >
> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 7:46:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> news:ca30cb27-456a-4376...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >> news:018b96e5-275c-49b5...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg
> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
> >> >> >> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern society, and the
> >> >> >> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
> >> >> >> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist in
> >> >> >> >> >> society as well and since island life one would think would
> >> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
> >> >> >> >> >> well every time IMO.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in the
> >> >> >> >> >New
> >> >> >> >> >Era?
> >> >> >> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of her
> >> >> >> >> >doing
> >> >> >> >> >a
> >> >> >> >> >Zoom
> >> >> >> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting producers.
> >> >> >> >> >Katurah
> >> >> >> >> >was
> >> >> >> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as
> >> >> >> >> >fucking
> >> >> >> >> >hell!
> >> >> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking the
> >> >> >> >> >right
> >> >> >> >> >boxes
> >> >> >> >> >is
> >> >> >> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have submitted
> >> >> >> >> >one
> >> >> >> >> >hell
> >> >> >> >> >of
> >> >> >> >> >an audition video to get cast.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >> >Brian
> >> >> >> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one token
> >> >> >> >> straight
> >> >> >> >> smart
> >> >> >> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy with
> >> >> >> >> Jake.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early on.
> >> >> >> >Hopefully
> >> >> >> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't cast
> >> >> >> >them.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >Brian
> >> >> >> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if they
> >> >> >> ever
> >> >> >> do
> >> >> >> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want to focus
> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while before they
> >> >> >> do
> >> >> >> another all-stars or second chances or something like that.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but that
> >> >> >clearly
> >> >> >didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about a year or
> >> >> >so
> >> >> >ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to bring back
> >> >> >yet.
> >> >> >My
> >> >> >guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will be all
> >> >> >returning but not necessarily just from the New Era. Hopefully Emily
> >> >> >is
> >> >> >willing to play again.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> She said in one of her interviews she would come back in a heartbeat,
> >> >> but
> >> >> who knows how she will feel in another few years. When they kicked off
> >> >> the
> >> >> new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the elimination of
> >> >> "themes"
> >> >> and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41, Survivor 42 etc.,
> >> >> which
> >> >> could make a returning player season problematic.
> >> >
> >> >Good to hear Emily is gung-ho about playing again but you're right that
> >> >things can change down the road.
> >> >
> >> >> I do like your optimism that the show will still be around for S50.
> >> >> Hard
> >> >> to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no obvious
> >> >> replacement
> >> >> in
> >> >> site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure who would or
> >> >> could
> >> >> replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian franchise,
> >> >> would
> >> >> be
> >> >> an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and spends a lot of
> >> >> time
> >> >> in
> >> >> the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be possibilities,
> >> >> though
> >> >> neither has ever lead a network series like this. They used to often
> >> >> mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR is hanging in
> >> >> there
> >> >> and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails" now. I hate to
> >> >> say
> >> >> the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended) without Jeff, but
> >> >> it's
> >> >> hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the lead role.
> >> >> --
> >> >
> >> >65 isn't that old and Jeff's in good shape. Phil originally applied to
> >> >be
> >> >the host of Survivor, but Jeff got the job and Phil ended up getting
> >> >TAR.
> >> >With 90-minute episodes appearing to become permanent, I don't see TAR
> >> >going anywhere. I also can't see anyone else hosting either show. Dalton
> >> >probably has more knowledge about the show than anyone but I don't see
> >> >that
> >> >necessarily translating into him being a good host. Rob would be an
> >> >interesting host but would he give up his podcasting empire?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Rob makes enough from podcasting to earn a small profit, but it's a drop
> >> in
> >> the bucket compared to what he could make as the host of a network TV
> >> show.
> >> Very few podcasters make enough to be independently wealthy, and Rob is
> >> certainly not that. In contrast, Jeff is a multi-millionaire many times
> >> over and could have walked away from the show in its early years and been
> >> set for life (in fact, he almost did that till they made him showrunner).
> >> So I have no doubt Rob would jump at the chance to host the show. But
> >> would
> >> CBS offer him the job? I kind of doubt it. The only comparable situation
> >> I
> >> can think of was the Jeopardy producers awarding Ken Jennings the hosting
> >> job after Alex Trebek's death, but that was a different situation since
> >> Jennings was widely regarded as the greatest Jeopardy player ever, and he
> >> had played in many all-star and celebrity versions of the show, as well
> >> as
> >> hosting a TV trivia series.. Rob is undeniably one of the great Survivor
> >> players, but he's been out of the general public eye for a good 20 years,
> >> would probably not be recognized by most Survivor viewers, and has no TV
> >> hosting experience, as far as I know. I think I might still give the edge
> >> to LaPaglia.
> >
> >Rob could take the job and have people like Fishbach and Mike Bloom host
> >the Survivor podcasts for him. I don't think being out of the public eye
> >would be a huge problem. He's very well-known in the Survivor community and
> >reintroducing him to the general public wouldn't be that hard. The problem
> >would that his hosting style would likely be very different than Jeff's. If
> >they go with a past player, it would likely be Boston Rob. He's got the
> >name recognition, hosting experience, he's a past winner, part of the CBS
> >family, and his hosting style would likely be very close to Jeff's.
> >
> Boston Rob could probably do it, but I'm not sure he'd want it at this stage
> in his life with four teenage and pre-teen girls still living at home.
> That's a tough age to be separated from one of your parents for that many
> months a year. He's also pretty set financially with his reality show and
> poker winnings, etc. so he probably literally doesn't need the money.
> Another problem is that Boston Rob is kind of a polarizing figure among
> certain segments of the fandom, and I'm not sure the powers that be would
> want someone who would take attention away from the players as he might do.
> If they really want a former player, maybe they'd go with someone like Rick
> Devens, who is an actual professional TV host.

"Brian Smith" wrote in message
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>
>On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 11:19:53 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> news:48316ed0-856c-4374...@googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 7:46:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> news:ca30cb27-456a-4376...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >> news:018b96e5-275c-49b5...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel
>> >> >> >> >> >Berg
>> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
>> >> >> >> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern society, and
>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
>> >> >> >> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist
>> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> society as well and since island life one would think
>> >> >> >> >> >> would
>> >> >> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
>> >> >> >> >> >> well every time IMO.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in
>> >> >> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >> >New
>> >> >> >> >> >Era?
>> >> >> >> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of her
>> >> >> >> >> >doing
>> >> >> >> >> >a
>> >> >> >> >> >Zoom
>> >> >> >> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting producers.
>> >> >> >> >> >Katurah
>> >> >> >> >> >was
>> >> >> >> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as
>> >> >> >> >> >fucking
>> >> >> >> >> >hell!
>> >> >> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking the
>> >> >> >> >> >right
>> >> >> >> >> >boxes
>> >> >> >> >> >is
>> >> >> >> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have
>> >> >> >> >> >submitted
>> >> >> >> >> >one
>> >> >> >> >> >hell
>> >> >> >> >> >of
>> >> >> >> >> >an audition video to get cast.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >> >> >Brian
>> >> >> >> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one token
>> >> >> >> >> straight
>> >> >> >> >> smart
>> >> >> >> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy with
>> >> >> >> >> Jake.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early on.
>> >> >> >> >Hopefully
>> >> >> >> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't
>> >> >> >> >cast
>> >> >> >> >them.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >> >Brian
>> >> >> >> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if they
>> >> >> >> ever
>> >> >> >> do
>> >> >> >> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want to
>> >> >> >> focus
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> new
>> >> >> >> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while before
>> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> do
>> >> >> >> another all-stars or second chances or something like that.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but that
>> >> >> >clearly
>> >> >> >didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about a year
>> >> >> >or
>> >> >> >so
>> >> >> >ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to bring back
>> >> >> >yet.
>> >> >> >My
>> >> >> >guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will be all
>> >> >> >returning but not necessarily just from the New Era. Hopefully
>> >> >> >Emily
>> >> >> >is
>> >> >> >willing to play again.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> She said in one of her interviews she would come back in a
>> >> >> heartbeat,
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> who knows how she will feel in another few years. When they kicked
>> >> >> off
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the elimination of
>> >> >> "themes"
>> >> >> and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41, Survivor 42
>> >> >> etc.,
>> >> >> which
>> >> >> could make a returning player season problematic.
>> >> >
>> >> >Good to hear Emily is gung-ho about playing again but you're right
>> >> >that
>> >> >things can change down the road.
>> >> >
>> >> >> I do like your optimism that the show will still be around for S50.
>> >> >> Hard
>> >> >> to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no obvious
>> >> >> replacement
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure who would
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> could
>> >> >> replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian franchise,
>> >> >> would
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and spends a lot of
>> >> >> time
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be possibilities,
>> >> >> though
>> >> >> neither has ever lead a network series like this. They used to
>> >> >> often
>> >> >> mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR is hanging
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> there
>> >> >> and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails" now. I hate
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> say
>> >> >> the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended) without Jeff,
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> it's
>> >> >> hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the lead role.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >
>> >> >65 isn't that old and Jeff's in good shape. Phil originally applied
>> >> >to
>> >> >be
>> >> >the host of Survivor, but Jeff got the job and Phil ended up getting
>> >> >TAR.
>> >> >With 90-minute episodes appearing to become permanent, I don't see
>> >> >TAR
>> >> >going anywhere. I also can't see anyone else hosting either show.
>> >> >Dalton
>> >> >probably has more knowledge about the show than anyone but I don't
>> >> >see
>> >> >that
>> >> >necessarily translating into him being a good host. Rob would be an
>> >> >interesting host but would he give up his podcasting empire?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> Rob makes enough from podcasting to earn a small profit, but it's a
>> >> drop
>> >> in
>> >> the bucket compared to what he could make as the host of a network TV
>> >> show.
>> >> Very few podcasters make enough to be independently wealthy, and Rob
>> >> is
>> >> certainly not that. In contrast, Jeff is a multi-millionaire many
>> >> times
>> >> over and could have walked away from the show in its early years and
>> >> been
>> >> set for life (in fact, he almost did that till they made him
>> >> showrunner).
>> >> So I have no doubt Rob would jump at the chance to host the show. But
>> >> would
>> >> CBS offer him the job? I kind of doubt it. The only comparable
>> >> situation
>> >> I
>> >> can think of was the Jeopardy producers awarding Ken Jennings the
>> >> hosting
>> >> job after Alex Trebek's death, but that was a different situation
>> >> since
>> >> Jennings was widely regarded as the greatest Jeopardy player ever, and
>> >> he
>> >> had played in many all-star and celebrity versions of the show, as
>> >> well
>> >> as
>> >> hosting a TV trivia series.. Rob is undeniably one of the great
>> >> Survivor
>> >> players, but he's been out of the general public eye for a good 20
>> >> years,
>> >> would probably not be recognized by most Survivor viewers, and has no
>> >> TV
>> >> hosting experience, as far as I know. I think I might still give the
>> >> edge
>> >> to LaPaglia.
>> >
>> >Rob could take the job and have people like Fishbach and Mike Bloom host
>> >the Survivor podcasts for him. I don't think being out of the public eye
>> >would be a huge problem. He's very well-known in the Survivor community
>> >and
>> >reintroducing him to the general public wouldn't be that hard. The
>> >problem
>> >would that his hosting style would likely be very different than Jeff's.
>> >If
>> >they go with a past player, it would likely be Boston Rob. He's got the
>> >name recognition, hosting experience, he's a past winner, part of the
>> >CBS
>> >family, and his hosting style would likely be very close to Jeff's.
>> >
>> Boston Rob could probably do it, but I'm not sure he'd want it at this
>> stage
>> in his life with four teenage and pre-teen girls still living at home.
>> That's a tough age to be separated from one of your parents for that many
>> months a year. He's also pretty set financially with his reality show and
>> poker winnings, etc. so he probably literally doesn't need the money.
>> Another problem is that Boston Rob is kind of a polarizing figure among
>> certain segments of the fandom, and I'm not sure the powers that be would
>> want someone who would take attention away from the players as he might
>> do.
>> If they really want a former player, maybe they'd go with someone like
>> Rick
>> Devens, who is an actual professional TV host.
>
>Doesn't Cesternino have a couple of young kids?
>
>I saw a tweet tonight from Kim reminding people that the second season of
>her show on HGTV starts tonight. Kim would be an interesting choice to host
>Survivor. She's got hosting experience, she's recognizable to viewers, and
>she's likable. But would she give up everything she has now? She's also got
>three young kids. We know from Winners at War that she and Boston Rob can
>be separated from their kids for over a month so the kid aspect might not
>be an issue.
>
>Do you think Rick Devans could overcome being associated with such a
>controversial season? A lot of people hate that season for various reasons.
>
>--
>Brian

On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 10:11:54 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> news:01f7b732-5e1f-4a81...@googlegroups.com...
> >
> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 11:19:53 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> news:48316ed0-856c-4374...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 7:46:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >> news:ca30cb27-456a-4376...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:018b96e5-275c-49b5...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel
> >> >> >> >> >> >Berg
> >> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
> >> >> >> >> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern society, and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they exist
> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> society as well and since island life one would think
> >> >> >> >> >> >> would
> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> >> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those as
> >> >> >> >> >> >> well every time IMO.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast in
> >> >> >> >> >> >the
> >> >> >> >> >> >New
> >> >> >> >> >> >Era?
> >> >> >> >> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of her
> >> >> >> >> >> >doing
> >> >> >> >> >> >a
> >> >> >> >> >> >Zoom
> >> >> >> >> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting producers..
> >> >> >> >> >> >Katurah
> >> >> >> >> >> >was
> >> >> >> >> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as
> >> >> >> >> >> >fucking
> >> >> >> >> >> >hell!
> >> >> >> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> >> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking the
> >> >> >> >> >> >right
> >> >> >> >> >> >boxes
> >> >> >> >> >> >is
> >> >> >> >> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have
> >> >> >> >> >> >submitted
> >> >> >> >> >> >one
> >> >> >> >> >> >hell
> >> >> >> >> >> >of
> >> >> >> >> >> >an audition video to get cast.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >> >> >Brian
> >> >> >> >> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one token
> >> >> >> >> >> straight
> >> >> >> >> >> smart
> >> >> >> >> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy with
> >> >> >> >> >> Jake.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early on.
> >> >> >> >> >Hopefully
> >> >> >> >> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't
> >> >> >> >> >cast
> >> >> >> >> >them.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >> >Brian
> >> >> >> >> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if they
> >> >> >> >> ever
> >> >> >> >> do
> >> >> >> >> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want to
> >> >> >> >> focus
> >> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> >> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while before
> >> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> >> do
> >> >> >> >> another all-stars or second chances or something like that.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but that
> >> >> >> >clearly
> >> >> >> >didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about a year
> >> >> >> >or
> >> >> >> >so
> >> >> >> >ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to bring back
> >> >> >> >yet.
> >> >> >> >My
> >> >> >> >guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will be all
> >> >> >> >returning but not necessarily just from the New Era. Hopefully
> >> >> >> >Emily
> >> >> >> >is
> >> >> >> >willing to play again.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> She said in one of her interviews she would come back in a
> >> >> >> heartbeat,
> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> who knows how she will feel in another few years. When they kicked
> >> >> >> off
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the elimination of
> >> >> >> "themes"
> >> >> >> and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41, Survivor 42
> >> >> >> etc.,
> >> >> >> which
> >> >> >> could make a returning player season problematic.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Good to hear Emily is gung-ho about playing again but you're right
> >> >> >that
> >> >> >things can change down the road.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I do like your optimism that the show will still be around for S50.
> >> >> >> Hard
> >> >> >> to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no obvious
> >> >> >> replacement
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure who would
> >> >> >> or
> >> >> >> could
> >> >> >> replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian franchise,
> >> >> >> would
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and spends a lot of
> >> >> >> time
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be possibilities,
> >> >> >> though
> >> >> >> neither has ever lead a network series like this. They used to
> >> >> >> often
> >> >> >> mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR is hanging
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> there
> >> >> >> and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails" now. I hate
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> say
> >> >> >> the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended) without Jeff,
> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> it's
> >> >> >> hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the lead role.
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >
> >> >> >65 isn't that old and Jeff's in good shape. Phil originally applied
> >> >> >to
> >> >> >be
> >> >> >the host of Survivor, but Jeff got the job and Phil ended up getting
> >> >> >TAR.
> >> >> >With 90-minute episodes appearing to become permanent, I don't see
> >> >> >TAR
> >> >> >going anywhere. I also can't see anyone else hosting either show.
> >> >> >Dalton
> >> >> >probably has more knowledge about the show than anyone but I don't
> >> >> >see
> >> >> >that
> >> >> >necessarily translating into him being a good host. Rob would be an
> >> >> >interesting host but would he give up his podcasting empire?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> Rob makes enough from podcasting to earn a small profit, but it's a
> >> >> drop
> >> >> in
> >> >> the bucket compared to what he could make as the host of a network TV
> >> >> show.
> >> >> Very few podcasters make enough to be independently wealthy, and Rob
> >> >> is
> >> >> certainly not that. In contrast, Jeff is a multi-millionaire many
> >> >> times
> >> >> over and could have walked away from the show in its early years and
> >> >> been
> >> >> set for life (in fact, he almost did that till they made him
> >> >> showrunner).
> >> >> So I have no doubt Rob would jump at the chance to host the show. But
> >> >> would
> >> >> CBS offer him the job? I kind of doubt it. The only comparable
> >> >> situation
> >> >> I
> >> >> can think of was the Jeopardy producers awarding Ken Jennings the
> >> >> hosting
> >> >> job after Alex Trebek's death, but that was a different situation
> >> >> since
> >> >> Jennings was widely regarded as the greatest Jeopardy player ever, and
> >> >> he
> >> >> had played in many all-star and celebrity versions of the show, as
> >> >> well
> >> >> as
> >> >> hosting a TV trivia series.. Rob is undeniably one of the great
> >> >> Survivor
> >> >> players, but he's been out of the general public eye for a good 20
> >> >> years,
> >> >> would probably not be recognized by most Survivor viewers, and has no
> >> >> TV
> >> >> hosting experience, as far as I know. I think I might still give the
> >> >> edge
> >> >> to LaPaglia.
> >> >
> >> >Rob could take the job and have people like Fishbach and Mike Bloom host
> >> >the Survivor podcasts for him. I don't think being out of the public eye
> >> >would be a huge problem. He's very well-known in the Survivor community
> >> >and
> >> >reintroducing him to the general public wouldn't be that hard. The
> >> >problem
> >> >would that his hosting style would likely be very different than Jeff's.
> >> >If
> >> >they go with a past player, it would likely be Boston Rob. He's got the
> >> >name recognition, hosting experience, he's a past winner, part of the
> >> >CBS
> >> >family, and his hosting style would likely be very close to Jeff's.
> >> >
> >> Boston Rob could probably do it, but I'm not sure he'd want it at this
> >> stage
> >> in his life with four teenage and pre-teen girls still living at home.
> >> That's a tough age to be separated from one of your parents for that many
> >> months a year. He's also pretty set financially with his reality show and
> >> poker winnings, etc. so he probably literally doesn't need the money.
> >> Another problem is that Boston Rob is kind of a polarizing figure among
> >> certain segments of the fandom, and I'm not sure the powers that be would
> >> want someone who would take attention away from the players as he might
> >> do.
> >> If they really want a former player, maybe they'd go with someone like
> >> Rick
> >> Devens, who is an actual professional TV host.
> >
> >Doesn't Cesternino have a couple of young kids?
> >
> >I saw a tweet tonight from Kim reminding people that the second season of
> >her show on HGTV starts tonight. Kim would be an interesting choice to host
> >Survivor. She's got hosting experience, she's recognizable to viewers, and
> >she's likable. But would she give up everything she has now? She's also got
> >three young kids. We know from Winners at War that she and Boston Rob can
> >be separated from their kids for over a month so the kid aspect might not
> >be an issue.
> >
> >Do you think Rick Devans could overcome being associated with such a
> >controversial season? A lot of people hate that season for various reasons.
> >
> >--
> >Brian
> Yes, Rob C. does have two young boys at home, but I think his situation is
> radically different from Boston Rob’s. It’s not for nothing that Rob C.
> always refers to himself as the “Rob that sucks” when comparing himself to
> Rob Mariano. He said it originally as a joke, but I think it has evolved to
> highlight a big difference between them. Boston Rob is literally set for
> life – he has a great wife, four beautiful daughters, he is famous, he is
> more than financially secure. He can write his own ticket and pick and
> choose what he wants to do in life. Yes, he and Amber did go back to do
> Survivor Winners at War (how could they possibly refuse that?) and he did
> that silly gig with Sandra the season before (which pretty much flowed into
> Winners at War), but I just don’t think he’d want the commitment of having
> to be in Fiji for half the year every year at this stage in his life.

"Brian Smith" wrote in message
news:e63a9f9e-2463-42ea-9de3-6e78d1868c07n@googlegroups.com...
>
>On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 10:11:54 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> news:01f7b732-5e1f-4a81...@googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 11:19:53 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> news:48316ed0-856c-4374...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 7:46:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >> news:ca30cb27-456a-4376...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:018b96e5-275c-49b5...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick
>> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9:49:10 PM UTC-7, Emanuel
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Berg
>> >> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern society,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> exist
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> society as well and since island life one would think
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> would
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of those
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> well every time IMO.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast
>> >> >> >> >> >> >in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >New
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Era?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >her
>> >> >> >> >> >> >doing
>> >> >> >> >> >> >a
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Zoom
>> >> >> >> >> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting
>> >> >> >> >> >> >producers.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Katurah
>> >> >> >> >> >> >was
>> >> >> >> >> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >fucking
>> >> >> >> >> >> >hell!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >> >> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking
>> >> >> >> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >right
>> >> >> >> >> >> >boxes
>> >> >> >> >> >> >is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have
>> >> >> >> >> >> >submitted
>> >> >> >> >> >> >one
>> >> >> >> >> >> >hell
>> >> >> >> >> >> >of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >an audition video to get cast.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Brian
>> >> >> >> >> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one
>> >> >> >> >> >> token
>> >> >> >> >> >> straight
>> >> >> >> >> >> smart
>> >> >> >> >> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy
>> >> >> >> >> >> with
>> >> >> >> >> >> Jake.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early
>> >> >> >> >> >on.
>> >> >> >> >> >Hopefully
>> >> >> >> >> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't
>> >> >> >> >> >cast
>> >> >> >> >> >them.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >> >> >Brian
>> >> >> >> >> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if
>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> >> ever
>> >> >> >> >> do
>> >> >> >> >> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want to
>> >> >> >> >> focus
>> >> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> new
>> >> >> >> >> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while
>> >> >> >> >> before
>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> >> do
>> >> >> >> >> another all-stars or second chances or something like that.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but that
>> >> >> >> >clearly
>> >> >> >> >didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about a
>> >> >> >> >year
>> >> >> >> >or
>> >> >> >> >so
>> >> >> >> >ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to bring
>> >> >> >> >back
>> >> >> >> >yet.
>> >> >> >> >My
>> >> >> >> >guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will be
>> >> >> >> >all
>> >> >> >> >returning but not necessarily just from the New Era. Hopefully
>> >> >> >> >Emily
>> >> >> >> >is
>> >> >> >> >willing to play again.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >> She said in one of her interviews she would come back in a
>> >> >> >> heartbeat,
>> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> who knows how she will feel in another few years. When they
>> >> >> >> kicked
>> >> >> >> off
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the elimination
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> "themes"
>> >> >> >> and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41, Survivor 42
>> >> >> >> etc.,
>> >> >> >> which
>> >> >> >> could make a returning player season problematic.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Good to hear Emily is gung-ho about playing again but you're right
>> >> >> >that
>> >> >> >things can change down the road.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> I do like your optimism that the show will still be around for
>> >> >> >> S50.
>> >> >> >> Hard
>> >> >> >> to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no obvious
>> >> >> >> replacement
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure who
>> >> >> >> would
>> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> could
>> >> >> >> replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian
>> >> >> >> franchise,
>> >> >> >> would
>> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and spends a lot
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> time
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be possibilities,
>> >> >> >> though
>> >> >> >> neither has ever lead a network series like this. They used to
>> >> >> >> often
>> >> >> >> mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR is
>> >> >> >> hanging
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> there
>> >> >> >> and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails" now. I
>> >> >> >> hate
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> say
>> >> >> >> the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended) without
>> >> >> >> Jeff,
>> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> it's
>> >> >> >> hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the lead
>> >> >> >> role.
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >65 isn't that old and Jeff's in good shape. Phil originally
>> >> >> >applied
>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >be
>> >> >> >the host of Survivor, but Jeff got the job and Phil ended up
>> >> >> >getting
>> >> >> >TAR.
>> >> >> >With 90-minute episodes appearing to become permanent, I don't see
>> >> >> >TAR
>> >> >> >going anywhere. I also can't see anyone else hosting either show.
>> >> >> >Dalton
>> >> >> >probably has more knowledge about the show than anyone but I don't
>> >> >> >see
>> >> >> >that
>> >> >> >necessarily translating into him being a good host. Rob would be
>> >> >> >an
>> >> >> >interesting host but would he give up his podcasting empire?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> Rob makes enough from podcasting to earn a small profit, but it's a
>> >> >> drop
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> the bucket compared to what he could make as the host of a network
>> >> >> TV
>> >> >> show.
>> >> >> Very few podcasters make enough to be independently wealthy, and
>> >> >> Rob
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> certainly not that. In contrast, Jeff is a multi-millionaire many
>> >> >> times
>> >> >> over and could have walked away from the show in its early years
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> been
>> >> >> set for life (in fact, he almost did that till they made him
>> >> >> showrunner).
>> >> >> So I have no doubt Rob would jump at the chance to host the show.
>> >> >> But
>> >> >> would
>> >> >> CBS offer him the job? I kind of doubt it. The only comparable
>> >> >> situation
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> can think of was the Jeopardy producers awarding Ken Jennings the
>> >> >> hosting
>> >> >> job after Alex Trebek's death, but that was a different situation
>> >> >> since
>> >> >> Jennings was widely regarded as the greatest Jeopardy player ever,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> he
>> >> >> had played in many all-star and celebrity versions of the show, as
>> >> >> well
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> hosting a TV trivia series.. Rob is undeniably one of the great
>> >> >> Survivor
>> >> >> players, but he's been out of the general public eye for a good 20
>> >> >> years,
>> >> >> would probably not be recognized by most Survivor viewers, and has
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> TV
>> >> >> hosting experience, as far as I know. I think I might still give
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> edge
>> >> >> to LaPaglia.
>> >> >
>> >> >Rob could take the job and have people like Fishbach and Mike Bloom
>> >> >host
>> >> >the Survivor podcasts for him. I don't think being out of the public
>> >> >eye
>> >> >would be a huge problem. He's very well-known in the Survivor
>> >> >community
>> >> >and
>> >> >reintroducing him to the general public wouldn't be that hard. The
>> >> >problem
>> >> >would that his hosting style would likely be very different than
>> >> >Jeff's.
>> >> >If
>> >> >they go with a past player, it would likely be Boston Rob. He's got
>> >> >the
>> >> >name recognition, hosting experience, he's a past winner, part of the
>> >> >CBS
>> >> >family, and his hosting style would likely be very close to Jeff's.
>> >> >
>> >> Boston Rob could probably do it, but I'm not sure he'd want it at this
>> >> stage
>> >> in his life with four teenage and pre-teen girls still living at home.
>> >> That's a tough age to be separated from one of your parents for that
>> >> many
>> >> months a year. He's also pretty set financially with his reality show
>> >> and
>> >> poker winnings, etc. so he probably literally doesn't need the money.
>> >> Another problem is that Boston Rob is kind of a polarizing figure
>> >> among
>> >> certain segments of the fandom, and I'm not sure the powers that be
>> >> would
>> >> want someone who would take attention away from the players as he
>> >> might
>> >> do.
>> >> If they really want a former player, maybe they'd go with someone like
>> >> Rick
>> >> Devens, who is an actual professional TV host.
>> >
>> >Doesn't Cesternino have a couple of young kids?
>> >
>> >I saw a tweet tonight from Kim reminding people that the second season
>> >of
>> >her show on HGTV starts tonight. Kim would be an interesting choice to
>> >host
>> >Survivor. She's got hosting experience, she's recognizable to viewers,
>> >and
>> >she's likable. But would she give up everything she has now? She's also
>> >got
>> >three young kids. We know from Winners at War that she and Boston Rob
>> >can
>> >be separated from their kids for over a month so the kid aspect might
>> >not
>> >be an issue.
>> >
>> >Do you think Rick Devans could overcome being associated with such a
>> >controversial season? A lot of people hate that season for various
>> >reasons.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Brian
>> Yes, Rob C. does have two young boys at home, but I think his situation
>> is
>> radically different from Boston Rob’s. It’s not for nothing that Rob C.
>> always refers to himself as the “Rob that sucks” when comparing himself
>> to
>> Rob Mariano. He said it originally as a joke, but I think it has evolved
>> to
>> highlight a big difference between them. Boston Rob is literally set for
>> life – he has a great wife, four beautiful daughters, he is famous, he is
>> more than financially secure. He can write his own ticket and pick and
>> choose what he wants to do in life. Yes, he and Amber did go back to do
>> Survivor Winners at War (how could they possibly refuse that?) and he did
>> that silly gig with Sandra the season before (which pretty much flowed
>> into
>> Winners at War), but I just don’t think he’d want the commitment of
>> having
>> to be in Fiji for half the year every year at this stage in his life.
>
>I'm pretty sure that Jeff isn't in Fiji for half the year. I'd say three
>months tops with a long enough break between shooting the two seasons to go
>home. I don't see that being an issue for any of them, especially if
>they're paid well. You'd think Boston Rob is set for live but having four
>girls could bring big wedding costs plus there's college to think about. I
>also don't see him turning the gig down if it was ever offered to him.

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>>
>>On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 10:11:54 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>>> news:01f7b732-5e1f-4a81...@googlegroups.com...
>>> >
>>> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 11:19:53 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>>> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>>> >> news:48316ed0-856c-4374...@googlegroups.com...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 7:46:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>>> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:ca30cb27-456a-4376...@googlegroups.com...
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>>> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>>> >> >> >> news:018b96e5-275c-49b5...@googlegroups.com...
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>>> >> >> >> >> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick
>>> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>>> >> >> >> >> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9 :49:10 PM UTC-7,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Emanuel
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Berg
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern society,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> exist
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> society as well and since island life one would think
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> would
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> those as
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> well every time IMO.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >in
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >the
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >New
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Era?
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >her
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >doing
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >a
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Zoom
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >producers.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Katurah
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >was
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >as
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >fucking
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >hell!
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >I
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >the
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >right
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >boxes
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >is
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >submitted
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >one
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >hell
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >of
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >an audition video to get cast.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Brian
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one
>>> >> >> >> >> >> token
>>> >> >> >> >> >> straight
>>> >> >> >> >> >> smart
>>> >> >> >> >> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy
>>> >> >> >> >> >> with
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Jake.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early
>>> >> >> >> >> >on.
>>> >> >> >> >> >Hopefully
>>> >> >> >> >> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't
>>> >> >> >> >> >cast
>>> >> >> >> >> >them.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >> >> >Brian
>>> >> >> >> >> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if
>>> >> >> >> >> they
>>> >> >> >> >> ever
>>> >> >> >> >> do
>>> >> >> >> >> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want to
>>> >> >> >> >> focus
>>> >> >> >> >> on
>>> >> >> >> >> new
>>> >> >> >> >> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while
>>> >> >> >> >> before
>>> >> >> >> >> they
>>> >> >> >> >> do
>>> >> >> >> >> another all-stars or second chances or something like that.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> --
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but
>>> >> >> >> >that
>>> >> >> >> >clearly
>>> >> >> >> >didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about a
>>> >> >> >> >year
>>> >> >> >> >or
>>> >> >> >> >so
>>> >> >> >> >ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to bring
>>> >> >> >> >back
>>> >> >> >> >yet.
>>> >> >> >> >My
>>> >> >> >> >guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will be
>>> >> >> >> >all
>>> >> >> >> >returning but not necessarily just from the New Era. Hopefully
>>> >> >> >> >Emily
>>> >> >> >> >is
>>> >> >> >> >willing to play again.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >> She said in one of her interviews she would come back in a
>>> >> >> >> heartbeat,
>>> >> >> >> but
>>> >> >> >> who knows how she will feel in another few years. When they
>>> >> >> >> kicked
>>> >> >> >> off
>>> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the
>>> >> >> >> elimination of
>>> >> >> >> "themes"
>>> >> >> >> and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41, Survivor 42
>>> >> >> >> etc.,
>>> >> >> >> which
>>> >> >> >> could make a returning player season problematic.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Good to hear Emily is gung-ho about playing again but you're
>>> >> >> >right
>>> >> >> >that
>>> >> >> >things can change down the road.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> I do like your optimism that the show will still be around for
>>> >> >> >> S50.
>>> >> >> >> Hard
>>> >> >> >> to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no obvious
>>> >> >> >> replacement
>>> >> >> >> in
>>> >> >> >> site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure who
>>> >> >> >> would
>>> >> >> >> or
>>> >> >> >> could
>>> >> >> >> replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian
>>> >> >> >> franchise,
>>> >> >> >> would
>>> >> >> >> be
>>> >> >> >> an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and spends a
>>> >> >> >> lot of
>>> >> >> >> time
>>> >> >> >> in
>>> >> >> >> the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be
>>> >> >> >> possibilities,
>>> >> >> >> though
>>> >> >> >> neither has ever lead a network series like this. They used to
>>> >> >> >> often
>>> >> >> >> mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR is
>>> >> >> >> hanging
>>> >> >> >> in
>>> >> >> >> there
>>> >> >> >> and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails" now. I
>>> >> >> >> hate
>>> >> >> >> to
>>> >> >> >> say
>>> >> >> >> the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended) without
>>> >> >> >> Jeff,
>>> >> >> >> but
>>> >> >> >> it's
>>> >> >> >> hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the lead
>>> >> >> >> role.
>>> >> >> >> --
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >65 isn't that old and Jeff's in good shape. Phil originally
>>> >> >> >applied
>>> >> >> >to
>>> >> >> >be
>>> >> >> >the host of Survivor, but Jeff got the job and Phil ended up
>>> >> >> >getting
>>> >> >> >TAR.
>>> >> >> >With 90-minute episodes appearing to become permanent, I don't
>>> >> >> >see
>>> >> >> >TAR
>>> >> >> >going anywhere. I also can't see anyone else hosting either show.
>>> >> >> >Dalton
>>> >> >> >probably has more knowledge about the show than anyone but I
>>> >> >> >don't
>>> >> >> >see
>>> >> >> >that
>>> >> >> >necessarily translating into him being a good host. Rob would be
>>> >> >> >an
>>> >> >> >interesting host but would he give up his podcasting empire?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> Rob makes enough from podcasting to earn a small profit, but it's
>>> >> >> a
>>> >> >> drop
>>> >> >> in
>>> >> >> the bucket compared to what he could make as the host of a network
>>> >> >> TV
>>> >> >> show.
>>> >> >> Very few podcasters make enough to be independently wealthy, and
>>> >> >> Rob
>>> >> >> is
>>> >> >> certainly not that. In contrast, Jeff is a multi-millionaire many
>>> >> >> times
>>> >> >> over and could have walked away from the show in its early years
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> been
>>> >> >> set for life (in fact, he almost did that till they made him
>>> >> >> showrunner).
>>> >> >> So I have no doubt Rob would jump at the chance to host the show.
>>> >> >> But
>>> >> >> would
>>> >> >> CBS offer him the job? I kind of doubt it. The only comparable
>>> >> >> situation
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >> can think of was the Jeopardy producers awarding Ken Jennings the
>>> >> >> hosting
>>> >> >> job after Alex Trebek's death, but that was a different situation
>>> >> >> since
>>> >> >> Jennings was widely regarded as the greatest Jeopardy player ever,
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> he
>>> >> >> had played in many all-star and celebrity versions of the show, as
>>> >> >> well
>>> >> >> as
>>> >> >> hosting a TV trivia series.. Rob is undeniably one of the great
>>> >> >> Survivor
>>> >> >> players, but he's been out of the general public eye for a good 20
>>> >> >> years,
>>> >> >> would probably not be recognized by most Survivor viewers, and has
>>> >> >> no
>>> >> >> TV
>>> >> >> hosting experience, as far as I know. I think I might still give
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> edge
>>> >> >> to LaPaglia.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Rob could take the job and have people like Fishbach and Mike Bloom
>>> >> >host
>>> >> >the Survivor podcasts for him. I don't think being out of the public
>>> >> >eye
>>> >> >would be a huge problem. He's very well-known in the Survivor
>>> >> >community
>>> >> >and
>>> >> >reintroducing him to the general public wouldn't be that hard. The
>>> >> >problem
>>> >> >would that his hosting style would likely be very different than
>>> >> >Jeff's.
>>> >> >If
>>> >> >they go with a past player, it would likely be Boston Rob. He's got
>>> >> >the
>>> >> >name recognition, hosting experience, he's a past winner, part of
>>> >> >the
>>> >> >CBS
>>> >> >family, and his hosting style would likely be very close to Jeff's.
>>> >> >
>>> >> Boston Rob could probably do it, but I'm not sure he'd want it at
>>> >> this
>>> >> stage
>>> >> in his life with four teenage and pre-teen girls still living at
>>> >> home.
>>> >> That's a tough age to be separated from one of your parents for that
>>> >> many
>>> >> months a year. He's also pretty set financially with his reality show
>>> >> and
>>> >> poker winnings, etc. so he probably literally doesn't need the money.
>>> >> Another problem is that Boston Rob is kind of a polarizing figure
>>> >> among
>>> >> certain segments of the fandom, and I'm not sure the powers that be
>>> >> would
>>> >> want someone who would take attention away from the players as he
>>> >> might
>>> >> do.
>>> >> If they really want a former player, maybe they'd go with someone
>>> >> like
>>> >> Rick
>>> >> Devens, who is an actual professional TV host.
>>> >
>>> >Doesn't Cesternino have a couple of young kids?
>>> >
>>> >I saw a tweet tonight from Kim reminding people that the second season
>>> >of
>>> >her show on HGTV starts tonight. Kim would be an interesting choice to
>>> >host
>>> >Survivor. She's got hosting experience, she's recognizable to viewers,
>>> >and
>>> >she's likable. But would she give up everything she has now? She's also
>>> >got
>>> >three young kids. We know from Winners at War that she and Boston Rob
>>> >can
>>> >be separated from their kids for over a month so the kid aspect might
>>> >not
>>> >be an issue.
>>> >
>>> >Do you think Rick Devans could overcome being associated with such a
>>> >controversial season? A lot of people hate that season for various
>>> >reasons.
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >Brian
>>> Yes, Rob C. does have two young boys at home, but I think his situation
>>> is
>>> radically different from Boston Rob’s. It’s not for nothing that Rob C.
>>> always refers to himself as the “Rob that sucks” when comparing himself
>>> to
>>> Rob Mariano. He said it originally as a joke, but I think it has evolved
>>> to
>>> highlight a big difference between them. Boston Rob is literally set for
>>> life – he has a great wife, four beautiful daughters, he is famous, he
>>> is
>>> more than financially secure. He can write his own ticket and pick and
>>> choose what he wants to do in life. Yes, he and Amber did go back to do
>>> Survivor Winners at War (how could they possibly refuse that?) and he
>>> did
>>> that silly gig with Sandra the season before (which pretty much flowed
>>> into
>>> Winners at War), but I just don’t think he’d want the commitment of
>>> having
>>> to be in Fiji for half the year every year at this stage in his life.
>>
>>I'm pretty sure that Jeff isn't in Fiji for half the year. I'd say three
>>months tops with a long enough break between shooting the two seasons to
>>go home. I don't see that being an issue for any of them, especially if
>>they're paid well. You'd think Boston Rob is set for live but having four
>>girls could bring big wedding costs plus there's college to think about. I
>>also don't see him turning the gig down if it was ever offered to him.
>
>Well a season is 26 days now but there is also a mandatory 14-day
>quarantine for everyone (including Jeff and the others working on the
>show). There's also a couple weeks of setup and pre-game interviews and
>testing all the challenges, etc., not to mention the breakdown of
>everything after the season ends, and that's not even considering weather
>delays. It's hard for me to see them getting out in under two months, and
>that's assuming everything goes as planned, and that's just for one season.
>Double all that and to me, you’re looking at least four months if
>everything goes smoothly, which I'm sure doesn't often happen.
>
>Rob and Amber probably have a net worth between them in the millions, so I
>don't think he really has a financial need to do Survivor. But you may be
>right he would take the gig if offered, if for no other reason than to
>accept the challenge, but I just don't think it will be offered.
>
>>
>>> Rob C. is different. Unlike the Rob that doesn’t suck, Survivor is
>>> really
>>> Rob C’s big passion in life, and he has been living it for literally
>>> half
>>> his life. He’s not exactly struggling at podcasting, but I don’t think
>>> he
>>> feels he has completely made it yet. His downloads are decent but not
>>> great
>>> for someone who wants to do podcasting as a full-time career. You'll
>>> notice
>>> that everyone else who podcasts on the RHAP network has a full-time job
>>> outside of the podcast. I’m pretty sure his wife Nicole still works
>>> full-time, and it’s noteworthy that he and his family left LA a few
>>> years
>>> back because of the high cost of living. Bottom line is that I’m pretty
>>> sure Rob C. would jump at the chance for a network hosting role, but I’m
>>> just not sure he would get the offer. Jeff certainly knows Rob C. and
>>> refers to him from time to time, but he’s never really been one of Jeff’s
>>> faves.
>>
>>Didn't Jeff do Rob's podcast once? They were also on a panel together with
>>Parv in an excellent but not very well-known event to promote the start of
>>Game Changers. The event was at a school in NYC and the moderator was
>>excellent. The big problem with Cesternino is would he be able to stop
>>himself from making wisecracks during challenges and TCs?
>
>Yes, Jeff has done an interview or two with Rob C, but I don't get the
>sense that he's really one of Jeff's favorites. If Jeff ever does retire,
>I just don't think that Rob C. will be high on the list of his recommended
>replacement candidates. And it won't be Jeff's call anyway or even Mark
>Burnett's - it will totally be up to CBS execs to decide whether to
>continue the show and who the host will be.
>>
>>> Kim S would do a great job hosting Survivor, and it would be great to
>>> have a
>>> female hosting the show. Women have hosted other reality shows, of
>>> course,
>>> notably Julie on Big Brother and more recently Alex on The Mole, but I'm
>>> pretty sure no woman has ever hosted any English-language Survivor
>>> season.
>>> I think there are probably many other former contestants who could do
>>> the
>>> job. Adam Klein is another name that comes to mind, though he's had his
>>> own
>>> issues with Jeff and the show recently. He has a strategic mind and I
>>> think
>>> he would do a pretty good job as host. But I still kind of think the
>>> powers
>>> that be will want a professional broadcaster in the role (remember that
>>> Jeff
>>> himself had experience as a game show host before Survivor), which is
>>> why I
>>> mentioned Rick Devens. And sure, Devens was associated with a mildly
>>> controversial season, but he was more of a victim of the twist that
>>> enabled
>>> Chris to win, so I don't think it will hurt him that much. And besides,
>>> much of the controversy over Survivor 38 got more than overshadowed by
>>> the
>>> absolute train wreck that was Survivor 39.
>>>
>>> --
>>
>>Is Devens still doing TV or has he moved onto something else? Not saying
>>he wouldn't be good, but I think he would be a shocking choice. No way in
>>hell Adam would get the job if Jeff has anything to say about.
>
>Not sure what Devens is doing nowadays. He co-hosted the Survivor On Fire
>podcast with Jeff, so he clearly has a pipeline to Jeff, which would help
>if Jeff ever steps down. I just did a quick Google on Devens and it says
>he left his morning anchor job when he filmed Survivor and then went on to
>be Communications Director at Middle Georgia State University in early
>2022. That sounds like a step down from TV anchorman, so I guess he may
>have had problems getting back into TV after doing Survivor. Other than
>the podcast with Jeff (which I've never listened to), I'm not sure what
>he's doing these days.
>
>
>>

On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> "Rick" wrote in message news:umicf4$3cb4$1...@dont-email.me...
> >
> >"Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >news:e63a9f9e-2463-42ea...@googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >>On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 10:11:54 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >>> news:01f7b732-5e1f-4a81...@googlegroups.com...
> >>> >
> >>> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 11:19:53 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >>> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >>> >> news:48316ed0-856c-4374...@googlegroups.com...
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 7:46:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >>> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >>> >> >> news:ca30cb27-456a-4376...@googlegroups.com...
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >>> >> >> >> news:018b96e5-275c-49b5...@googlegroups.com...
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >>> >> >> >> >> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick
> >>> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9 :49:10 PM UTC-7,
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Emanuel
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Berg
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type of
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern society,
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are the
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely they
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> exist
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> society as well and since island life one would think
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> would
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> those as
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> well every time IMO.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get cast
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >in
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >the
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >New
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Era?
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories of
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >her
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >doing
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >a
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Zoom
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >producers.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Katurah
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >was
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm gay
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >as
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >fucking
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >hell!
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >I
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse, checking
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >the
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >right
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >boxes
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >is
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >submitted
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >one
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >hell
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >of
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >an audition video to get cast.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >--
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Brian
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> token
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> straight
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> smart
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white guy
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> with
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Jake.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me early
> >>> >> >> >> >> >on.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >Hopefully
> >>> >> >> >> >> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and don't
> >>> >> >> >> >> >cast
> >>> >> >> >> >> >them.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >--
> >>> >> >> >> >> >Brian
> >>> >> >> >> >> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return if
> >>> >> >> >> >> they
> >>> >> >> >> >> ever
> >>> >> >> >> >> do
> >>> >> >> >> >> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want to
> >>> >> >> >> >> focus
> >>> >> >> >> >> on
> >>> >> >> >> >> new
> >>> >> >> >> >> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while
> >>> >> >> >> >> before
> >>> >> >> >> >> they
> >>> >> >> >> >> do
> >>> >> >> >> >> another all-stars or second chances or something like that.
> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but
> >>> >> >> >> >that
> >>> >> >> >> >clearly
> >>> >> >> >> >didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about a
> >>> >> >> >> >year
> >>> >> >> >> >or
> >>> >> >> >> >so
> >>> >> >> >> >ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to bring
> >>> >> >> >> >back
> >>> >> >> >> >yet.
> >>> >> >> >> >My
> >>> >> >> >> >guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will be
> >>> >> >> >> >all
> >>> >> >> >> >returning but not necessarily just from the New Era. Hopefully
> >>> >> >> >> >Emily
> >>> >> >> >> >is
> >>> >> >> >> >willing to play again.
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >--
> >>> >> >> >> She said in one of her interviews she would come back in a
> >>> >> >> >> heartbeat,
> >>> >> >> >> but
> >>> >> >> >> who knows how she will feel in another few years. When they
> >>> >> >> >> kicked
> >>> >> >> >> off
> >>> >> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the
> >>> >> >> >> elimination of
> >>> >> >> >> "themes"
> >>> >> >> >> and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41, Survivor 42
> >>> >> >> >> etc.,
> >>> >> >> >> which
> >>> >> >> >> could make a returning player season problematic.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >Good to hear Emily is gung-ho about playing again but you're
> >>> >> >> >right
> >>> >> >> >that
> >>> >> >> >things can change down the road.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> I do like your optimism that the show will still be around for
> >>> >> >> >> S50.
> >>> >> >> >> Hard
> >>> >> >> >> to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no obvious
> >>> >> >> >> replacement
> >>> >> >> >> in
> >>> >> >> >> site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure who
> >>> >> >> >> would
> >>> >> >> >> or
> >>> >> >> >> could
> >>> >> >> >> replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian
> >>> >> >> >> franchise,
> >>> >> >> >> would
> >>> >> >> >> be
> >>> >> >> >> an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and spends a
> >>> >> >> >> lot of
> >>> >> >> >> time
> >>> >> >> >> in
> >>> >> >> >> the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be
> >>> >> >> >> possibilities,
> >>> >> >> >> though
> >>> >> >> >> neither has ever lead a network series like this. They used to
> >>> >> >> >> often
> >>> >> >> >> mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR is
> >>> >> >> >> hanging
> >>> >> >> >> in
> >>> >> >> >> there
> >>> >> >> >> and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails" now. I
> >>> >> >> >> hate
> >>> >> >> >> to
> >>> >> >> >> say
> >>> >> >> >> the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended) without
> >>> >> >> >> Jeff,
> >>> >> >> >> but
> >>> >> >> >> it's
> >>> >> >> >> hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the lead
> >>> >> >> >> role.
> >>> >> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >65 isn't that old and Jeff's in good shape. Phil originally
> >>> >> >> >applied
> >>> >> >> >to
> >>> >> >> >be
> >>> >> >> >the host of Survivor, but Jeff got the job and Phil ended up
> >>> >> >> >getting
> >>> >> >> >TAR.
> >>> >> >> >With 90-minute episodes appearing to become permanent, I don't
> >>> >> >> >see
> >>> >> >> >TAR
> >>> >> >> >going anywhere. I also can't see anyone else hosting either show.
> >>> >> >> >Dalton
> >>> >> >> >probably has more knowledge about the show than anyone but I
> >>> >> >> >don't
> >>> >> >> >see
> >>> >> >> >that
> >>> >> >> >necessarily translating into him being a good host. Rob would be
> >>> >> >> >an
> >>> >> >> >interesting host but would he give up his podcasting empire?
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> Rob makes enough from podcasting to earn a small profit, but it's
> >>> >> >> a
> >>> >> >> drop
> >>> >> >> in
> >>> >> >> the bucket compared to what he could make as the host of a network
> >>> >> >> TV
> >>> >> >> show.
> >>> >> >> Very few podcasters make enough to be independently wealthy, and
> >>> >> >> Rob
> >>> >> >> is
> >>> >> >> certainly not that. In contrast, Jeff is a multi-millionaire many
> >>> >> >> times
> >>> >> >> over and could have walked away from the show in its early years
> >>> >> >> and
> >>> >> >> been
> >>> >> >> set for life (in fact, he almost did that till they made him
> >>> >> >> showrunner).
> >>> >> >> So I have no doubt Rob would jump at the chance to host the show.
> >>> >> >> But
> >>> >> >> would
> >>> >> >> CBS offer him the job? I kind of doubt it. The only comparable
> >>> >> >> situation
> >>> >> >> I
> >>> >> >> can think of was the Jeopardy producers awarding Ken Jennings the
> >>> >> >> hosting
> >>> >> >> job after Alex Trebek's death, but that was a different situation
> >>> >> >> since
> >>> >> >> Jennings was widely regarded as the greatest Jeopardy player ever,
> >>> >> >> and
> >>> >> >> he
> >>> >> >> had played in many all-star and celebrity versions of the show, as
> >>> >> >> well
> >>> >> >> as
> >>> >> >> hosting a TV trivia series.. Rob is undeniably one of the great
> >>> >> >> Survivor
> >>> >> >> players, but he's been out of the general public eye for a good 20
> >>> >> >> years,
> >>> >> >> would probably not be recognized by most Survivor viewers, and has
> >>> >> >> no
> >>> >> >> TV
> >>> >> >> hosting experience, as far as I know. I think I might still give
> >>> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> edge
> >>> >> >> to LaPaglia.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >Rob could take the job and have people like Fishbach and Mike Bloom
> >>> >> >host
> >>> >> >the Survivor podcasts for him. I don't think being out of the public
> >>> >> >eye
> >>> >> >would be a huge problem. He's very well-known in the Survivor
> >>> >> >community
> >>> >> >and
> >>> >> >reintroducing him to the general public wouldn't be that hard. The
> >>> >> >problem
> >>> >> >would that his hosting style would likely be very different than
> >>> >> >Jeff's.
> >>> >> >If
> >>> >> >they go with a past player, it would likely be Boston Rob. He's got
> >>> >> >the
> >>> >> >name recognition, hosting experience, he's a past winner, part of
> >>> >> >the
> >>> >> >CBS
> >>> >> >family, and his hosting style would likely be very close to Jeff's.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> Boston Rob could probably do it, but I'm not sure he'd want it at
> >>> >> this
> >>> >> stage
> >>> >> in his life with four teenage and pre-teen girls still living at
> >>> >> home.
> >>> >> That's a tough age to be separated from one of your parents for that
> >>> >> many
> >>> >> months a year. He's also pretty set financially with his reality show
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> poker winnings, etc. so he probably literally doesn't need the money.
> >>> >> Another problem is that Boston Rob is kind of a polarizing figure
> >>> >> among
> >>> >> certain segments of the fandom, and I'm not sure the powers that be
> >>> >> would
> >>> >> want someone who would take attention away from the players as he
> >>> >> might
> >>> >> do.
> >>> >> If they really want a former player, maybe they'd go with someone
> >>> >> like
> >>> >> Rick
> >>> >> Devens, who is an actual professional TV host.
> >>> >
> >>> >Doesn't Cesternino have a couple of young kids?
> >>> >
> >>> >I saw a tweet tonight from Kim reminding people that the second season
> >>> >of
> >>> >her show on HGTV starts tonight. Kim would be an interesting choice to
> >>> >host
> >>> >Survivor. She's got hosting experience, she's recognizable to viewers,
> >>> >and
> >>> >she's likable. But would she give up everything she has now? She's also
> >>> >got
> >>> >three young kids. We know from Winners at War that she and Boston Rob
> >>> >can
> >>> >be separated from their kids for over a month so the kid aspect might
> >>> >not
> >>> >be an issue.
> >>> >
> >>> >Do you think Rick Devans could overcome being associated with such a
> >>> >controversial season? A lot of people hate that season for various
> >>> >reasons.
> >>> >
> >>> >--
> >>> >Brian
> >>> Yes, Rob C. does have two young boys at home, but I think his situation
> >>> is
> >>> radically different from Boston Rob’s. It’s not for nothing that Rob C.
> >>> always refers to himself as the “Rob that sucks” when comparing himself
> >>> to
> >>> Rob Mariano. He said it originally as a joke, but I think it has evolved
> >>> to
> >>> highlight a big difference between them. Boston Rob is literally set for
> >>> life – he has a great wife, four beautiful daughters, he is famous, he
> >>> is
> >>> more than financially secure. He can write his own ticket and pick and
> >>> choose what he wants to do in life. Yes, he and Amber did go back to do
> >>> Survivor Winners at War (how could they possibly refuse that?) and he
> >>> did
> >>> that silly gig with Sandra the season before (which pretty much flowed
> >>> into
> >>> Winners at War), but I just don’t think he’d want the commitment of
> >>> having
> >>> to be in Fiji for half the year every year at this stage in his life.
> >>
> >>I'm pretty sure that Jeff isn't in Fiji for half the year. I'd say three
> >>months tops with a long enough break between shooting the two seasons to
> >>go home. I don't see that being an issue for any of them, especially if
> >>they're paid well. You'd think Boston Rob is set for live but having four
> >>girls could bring big wedding costs plus there's college to think about.. I
> >>also don't see him turning the gig down if it was ever offered to him.
> >
> >Well a season is 26 days now but there is also a mandatory 14-day
> >quarantine for everyone (including Jeff and the others working on the
> >show). There's also a couple weeks of setup and pre-game interviews and
> >testing all the challenges, etc., not to mention the breakdown of
> >everything after the season ends, and that's not even considering weather
> >delays. It's hard for me to see them getting out in under two months, and
> >that's assuming everything goes as planned, and that's just for one season.
> >Double all that and to me, you’re looking at least four months if
> >everything goes smoothly, which I'm sure doesn't often happen.
> >
> >Rob and Amber probably have a net worth between them in the millions, so I
> >don't think he really has a financial need to do Survivor. But you may be
> >right he would take the gig if offered, if for no other reason than to
> >accept the challenge, but I just don't think it will be offered.
> >
> >>
> >>> Rob C. is different. Unlike the Rob that doesn’t suck, Survivor is
> >>> really
> >>> Rob C’s big passion in life, and he has been living it for literally
> >>> half
> >>> his life. He’s not exactly struggling at podcasting, but I don’t think
> >>> he
> >>> feels he has completely made it yet. His downloads are decent but not
> >>> great
> >>> for someone who wants to do podcasting as a full-time career. You'll
> >>> notice
> >>> that everyone else who podcasts on the RHAP network has a full-time job
> >>> outside of the podcast. I’m pretty sure his wife Nicole still works
> >>> full-time, and it’s noteworthy that he and his family left LA a few
> >>> years
> >>> back because of the high cost of living. Bottom line is that I’m pretty
> >>> sure Rob C. would jump at the chance for a network hosting role, but I’m
> >>> just not sure he would get the offer. Jeff certainly knows Rob C. and
> >>> refers to him from time to time, but he’s never really been one of Jeff’s
> >>> faves.
> >>
> >>Didn't Jeff do Rob's podcast once? They were also on a panel together with
> >>Parv in an excellent but not very well-known event to promote the start of
> >>Game Changers. The event was at a school in NYC and the moderator was
> >>excellent. The big problem with Cesternino is would he be able to stop
> >>himself from making wisecracks during challenges and TCs?
> >
> >Yes, Jeff has done an interview or two with Rob C, but I don't get the
> >sense that he's really one of Jeff's favorites. If Jeff ever does retire,
> >I just don't think that Rob C. will be high on the list of his recommended
> >replacement candidates. And it won't be Jeff's call anyway or even Mark
> >Burnett's - it will totally be up to CBS execs to decide whether to
> >continue the show and who the host will be.
> >>
> >>> Kim S would do a great job hosting Survivor, and it would be great to
> >>> have a
> >>> female hosting the show. Women have hosted other reality shows, of
> >>> course,
> >>> notably Julie on Big Brother and more recently Alex on The Mole, but I'm
> >>> pretty sure no woman has ever hosted any English-language Survivor
> >>> season.
> >>> I think there are probably many other former contestants who could do
> >>> the
> >>> job. Adam Klein is another name that comes to mind, though he's had his
> >>> own
> >>> issues with Jeff and the show recently. He has a strategic mind and I
> >>> think
> >>> he would do a pretty good job as host. But I still kind of think the
> >>> powers
> >>> that be will want a professional broadcaster in the role (remember that
> >>> Jeff
> >>> himself had experience as a game show host before Survivor), which is
> >>> why I
> >>> mentioned Rick Devens. And sure, Devens was associated with a mildly
> >>> controversial season, but he was more of a victim of the twist that
> >>> enabled
> >>> Chris to win, so I don't think it will hurt him that much. And besides,
> >>> much of the controversy over Survivor 38 got more than overshadowed by
> >>> the
> >>> absolute train wreck that was Survivor 39.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>
> >>Is Devens still doing TV or has he moved onto something else? Not saying
> >>he wouldn't be good, but I think he would be a shocking choice. No way in
> >>hell Adam would get the job if Jeff has anything to say about.
> >
> >Not sure what Devens is doing nowadays. He co-hosted the Survivor On Fire
> >podcast with Jeff, so he clearly has a pipeline to Jeff, which would help
> >if Jeff ever steps down. I just did a quick Google on Devens and it says
> >he left his morning anchor job when he filmed Survivor and then went on to
> >be Communications Director at Middle Georgia State University in early
> >2022. That sounds like a step down from TV anchorman, so I guess he may
> >have had problems getting back into TV after doing Survivor. Other than
> >the podcast with Jeff (which I've never listened to), I'm not sure what
> >he's doing these days.
> >
> >
> >>
> This is the last thing I found on Devens from March 2022:
>
> https://www.mga.edu/news/2022/03/devens-joins-mga.php

"Brian Smith" wrote in message
news:756276df-2589-4ef8-9111-c2f07b2cae05n@googlegroups.com...
>
>On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> "Rick" wrote in message news:umicf4$3cb4$1...@dont-email.me...
>> >
>> >"Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >news:e63a9f9e-2463-42ea...@googlegroups.com...
>> >>
>> >>On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 10:11:54 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >>> news:01f7b732-5e1f-4a81...@googlegroups.com...
>> >>> >
>> >>> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 11:19:53 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >>> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >>> >> news:48316ed0-856c-4374...@googlegroups.com...
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 7:46:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >>> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >>> >> >> news:ca30cb27-456a-4376...@googlegroups.com...
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >>> >> >> >> news:018b96e5-275c-49b5...@googlegroups.com...
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick
>> >>> >> >> >> >wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >>> >> >> >> >> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9 :49:10 PM UTC-7,
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Emanuel
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Berg
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> society,
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> they
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> exist
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> society as well and since island life one would
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> think
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> would
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> those as
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> well every time IMO.
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >cast
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >in
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >the
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >New
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Era?
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >of
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >her
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >doing
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >a
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Zoom
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >producers.
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Katurah
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >was
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >gay
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >as
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >fucking
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >hell!
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >I
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse,
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >checking
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >the
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >right
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >boxes
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >is
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >submitted
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >one
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >hell
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >of
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >an audition video to get cast.
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >--
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Brian
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> token
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> straight
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> smart
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> guy
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> with
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Jake.
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >early
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >on.
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >Hopefully
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >don't
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >cast
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >them.
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >--
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >Brian
>> >>> >> >> >> >> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return
>> >>> >> >> >> >> if
>> >>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >>> >> >> >> >> ever
>> >>> >> >> >> >> do
>> >>> >> >> >> >> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want
>> >>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> >> >> focus
>> >>> >> >> >> >> on
>> >>> >> >> >> >> new
>> >>> >> >> >> >> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while
>> >>> >> >> >> >> before
>> >>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >>> >> >> >> >> do
>> >>> >> >> >> >> another all-stars or second chances or something like
>> >>> >> >> >> >> that.
>> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but
>> >>> >> >> >> >that
>> >>> >> >> >> >clearly
>> >>> >> >> >> >didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about
>> >>> >> >> >> >a
>> >>> >> >> >> >year
>> >>> >> >> >> >or
>> >>> >> >> >> >so
>> >>> >> >> >> >ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to
>> >>> >> >> >> >bring
>> >>> >> >> >> >back
>> >>> >> >> >> >yet.
>> >>> >> >> >> >My
>> >>> >> >> >> >guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will
>> >>> >> >> >> >be
>> >>> >> >> >> >all
>> >>> >> >> >> >returning but not necessarily just from the New Era.
>> >>> >> >> >> >Hopefully
>> >>> >> >> >> >Emily
>> >>> >> >> >> >is
>> >>> >> >> >> >willing to play again.
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >--
>> >>> >> >> >> She said in one of her interviews she would come back in a
>> >>> >> >> >> heartbeat,
>> >>> >> >> >> but
>> >>> >> >> >> who knows how she will feel in another few years. When they
>> >>> >> >> >> kicked
>> >>> >> >> >> off
>> >>> >> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> >> new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the
>> >>> >> >> >> elimination of
>> >>> >> >> >> "themes"
>> >>> >> >> >> and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41, Survivor
>> >>> >> >> >> 42
>> >>> >> >> >> etc.,
>> >>> >> >> >> which
>> >>> >> >> >> could make a returning player season problematic.
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >Good to hear Emily is gung-ho about playing again but you're
>> >>> >> >> >right
>> >>> >> >> >that
>> >>> >> >> >things can change down the road.
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> I do like your optimism that the show will still be around
>> >>> >> >> >> for
>> >>> >> >> >> S50.
>> >>> >> >> >> Hard
>> >>> >> >> >> to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no
>> >>> >> >> >> obvious
>> >>> >> >> >> replacement
>> >>> >> >> >> in
>> >>> >> >> >> site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure who
>> >>> >> >> >> would
>> >>> >> >> >> or
>> >>> >> >> >> could
>> >>> >> >> >> replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian
>> >>> >> >> >> franchise,
>> >>> >> >> >> would
>> >>> >> >> >> be
>> >>> >> >> >> an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and spends a
>> >>> >> >> >> lot of
>> >>> >> >> >> time
>> >>> >> >> >> in
>> >>> >> >> >> the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be
>> >>> >> >> >> possibilities,
>> >>> >> >> >> though
>> >>> >> >> >> neither has ever lead a network series like this. They used
>> >>> >> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> >> often
>> >>> >> >> >> mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR is
>> >>> >> >> >> hanging
>> >>> >> >> >> in
>> >>> >> >> >> there
>> >>> >> >> >> and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails" now.
>> >>> >> >> >> I
>> >>> >> >> >> hate
>> >>> >> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> >> say
>> >>> >> >> >> the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended) without
>> >>> >> >> >> Jeff,
>> >>> >> >> >> but
>> >>> >> >> >> it's
>> >>> >> >> >> hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the
>> >>> >> >> >> lead
>> >>> >> >> >> role.
>> >>> >> >> >> --
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >65 isn't that old and Jeff's in good shape. Phil originally
>> >>> >> >> >applied
>> >>> >> >> >to
>> >>> >> >> >be
>> >>> >> >> >the host of Survivor, but Jeff got the job and Phil ended up
>> >>> >> >> >getting
>> >>> >> >> >TAR.
>> >>> >> >> >With 90-minute episodes appearing to become permanent, I don't
>> >>> >> >> >see
>> >>> >> >> >TAR
>> >>> >> >> >going anywhere. I also can't see anyone else hosting either
>> >>> >> >> >show.
>> >>> >> >> >Dalton
>> >>> >> >> >probably has more knowledge about the show than anyone but I
>> >>> >> >> >don't
>> >>> >> >> >see
>> >>> >> >> >that
>> >>> >> >> >necessarily translating into him being a good host. Rob would
>> >>> >> >> >be
>> >>> >> >> >an
>> >>> >> >> >interesting host but would he give up his podcasting empire?
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> Rob makes enough from podcasting to earn a small profit, but
>> >>> >> >> it's
>> >>> >> >> a
>> >>> >> >> drop
>> >>> >> >> in
>> >>> >> >> the bucket compared to what he could make as the host of a
>> >>> >> >> network
>> >>> >> >> TV
>> >>> >> >> show.
>> >>> >> >> Very few podcasters make enough to be independently wealthy,
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> Rob
>> >>> >> >> is
>> >>> >> >> certainly not that. In contrast, Jeff is a multi-millionaire
>> >>> >> >> many
>> >>> >> >> times
>> >>> >> >> over and could have walked away from the show in its early
>> >>> >> >> years
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> been
>> >>> >> >> set for life (in fact, he almost did that till they made him
>> >>> >> >> showrunner).
>> >>> >> >> So I have no doubt Rob would jump at the chance to host the
>> >>> >> >> show.
>> >>> >> >> But
>> >>> >> >> would
>> >>> >> >> CBS offer him the job? I kind of doubt it. The only comparable
>> >>> >> >> situation
>> >>> >> >> I
>> >>> >> >> can think of was the Jeopardy producers awarding Ken Jennings
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> hosting
>> >>> >> >> job after Alex Trebek's death, but that was a different
>> >>> >> >> situation
>> >>> >> >> since
>> >>> >> >> Jennings was widely regarded as the greatest Jeopardy player
>> >>> >> >> ever,
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> he
>> >>> >> >> had played in many all-star and celebrity versions of the show,
>> >>> >> >> as
>> >>> >> >> well
>> >>> >> >> as
>> >>> >> >> hosting a TV trivia series.. Rob is undeniably one of the great
>> >>> >> >> Survivor
>> >>> >> >> players, but he's been out of the general public eye for a good
>> >>> >> >> 20
>> >>> >> >> years,
>> >>> >> >> would probably not be recognized by most Survivor viewers, and
>> >>> >> >> has
>> >>> >> >> no
>> >>> >> >> TV
>> >>> >> >> hosting experience, as far as I know. I think I might still
>> >>> >> >> give
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> edge
>> >>> >> >> to LaPaglia.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >Rob could take the job and have people like Fishbach and Mike
>> >>> >> >Bloom
>> >>> >> >host
>> >>> >> >the Survivor podcasts for him. I don't think being out of the
>> >>> >> >public
>> >>> >> >eye
>> >>> >> >would be a huge problem. He's very well-known in the Survivor
>> >>> >> >community
>> >>> >> >and
>> >>> >> >reintroducing him to the general public wouldn't be that hard.
>> >>> >> >The
>> >>> >> >problem
>> >>> >> >would that his hosting style would likely be very different than
>> >>> >> >Jeff's.
>> >>> >> >If
>> >>> >> >they go with a past player, it would likely be Boston Rob. He's
>> >>> >> >got
>> >>> >> >the
>> >>> >> >name recognition, hosting experience, he's a past winner, part of
>> >>> >> >the
>> >>> >> >CBS
>> >>> >> >family, and his hosting style would likely be very close to
>> >>> >> >Jeff's.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> Boston Rob could probably do it, but I'm not sure he'd want it at
>> >>> >> this
>> >>> >> stage
>> >>> >> in his life with four teenage and pre-teen girls still living at
>> >>> >> home.
>> >>> >> That's a tough age to be separated from one of your parents for
>> >>> >> that
>> >>> >> many
>> >>> >> months a year. He's also pretty set financially with his reality
>> >>> >> show
>> >>> >> and
>> >>> >> poker winnings, etc. so he probably literally doesn't need the
>> >>> >> money.
>> >>> >> Another problem is that Boston Rob is kind of a polarizing figure
>> >>> >> among
>> >>> >> certain segments of the fandom, and I'm not sure the powers that
>> >>> >> be
>> >>> >> would
>> >>> >> want someone who would take attention away from the players as he
>> >>> >> might
>> >>> >> do.
>> >>> >> If they really want a former player, maybe they'd go with someone
>> >>> >> like
>> >>> >> Rick
>> >>> >> Devens, who is an actual professional TV host.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Doesn't Cesternino have a couple of young kids?
>> >>> >
>> >>> >I saw a tweet tonight from Kim reminding people that the second
>> >>> >season
>> >>> >of
>> >>> >her show on HGTV starts tonight. Kim would be an interesting choice
>> >>> >to
>> >>> >host
>> >>> >Survivor. She's got hosting experience, she's recognizable to
>> >>> >viewers,
>> >>> >and
>> >>> >she's likable. But would she give up everything she has now? She's
>> >>> >also
>> >>> >got
>> >>> >three young kids. We know from Winners at War that she and Boston
>> >>> >Rob
>> >>> >can
>> >>> >be separated from their kids for over a month so the kid aspect
>> >>> >might
>> >>> >not
>> >>> >be an issue.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Do you think Rick Devans could overcome being associated with such a
>> >>> >controversial season? A lot of people hate that season for various
>> >>> >reasons.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >--
>> >>> >Brian
>> >>> Yes, Rob C. does have two young boys at home, but I think his
>> >>> situation
>> >>> is
>> >>> radically different from Boston Rob’s. It’s not for nothing that Rob
>> >>> C.
>> >>> always refers to himself as the “Rob that sucks” when comparing
>> >>> himself
>> >>> to
>> >>> Rob Mariano. He said it originally as a joke, but I think it has
>> >>> evolved
>> >>> to
>> >>> highlight a big difference between them. Boston Rob is literally set
>> >>> for
>> >>> life – he has a great wife, four beautiful daughters, he is famous,
>> >>> he
>> >>> is
>> >>> more than financially secure. He can write his own ticket and pick
>> >>> and
>> >>> choose what he wants to do in life. Yes, he and Amber did go back to
>> >>> do
>> >>> Survivor Winners at War (how could they possibly refuse that?) and he
>> >>> did
>> >>> that silly gig with Sandra the season before (which pretty much
>> >>> flowed
>> >>> into
>> >>> Winners at War), but I just don’t think he’d want the commitment of
>> >>> having
>> >>> to be in Fiji for half the year every year at this stage in his life.
>> >>
>> >>I'm pretty sure that Jeff isn't in Fiji for half the year. I'd say
>> >>three
>> >>months tops with a long enough break between shooting the two seasons
>> >>to
>> >>go home. I don't see that being an issue for any of them, especially if
>> >>they're paid well. You'd think Boston Rob is set for live but having
>> >>four
>> >>girls could bring big wedding costs plus there's college to think
>> >>about. I
>> >>also don't see him turning the gig down if it was ever offered to him.
>> >
>> >Well a season is 26 days now but there is also a mandatory 14-day
>> >quarantine for everyone (including Jeff and the others working on the
>> >show). There's also a couple weeks of setup and pre-game interviews and
>> >testing all the challenges, etc., not to mention the breakdown of
>> >everything after the season ends, and that's not even considering
>> >weather
>> >delays. It's hard for me to see them getting out in under two months,
>> >and
>> >that's assuming everything goes as planned, and that's just for one
>> >season.
>> >Double all that and to me, you’re looking at least four months if
>> >everything goes smoothly, which I'm sure doesn't often happen.
>> >
>> >Rob and Amber probably have a net worth between them in the millions, so
>> >I
>> >don't think he really has a financial need to do Survivor. But you may
>> >be
>> >right he would take the gig if offered, if for no other reason than to
>> >accept the challenge, but I just don't think it will be offered.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>> Rob C. is different. Unlike the Rob that doesn’t suck, Survivor is
>> >>> really
>> >>> Rob C’s big passion in life, and he has been living it for literally
>> >>> half
>> >>> his life. He’s not exactly struggling at podcasting, but I don’t
>> >>> think
>> >>> he
>> >>> feels he has completely made it yet. His downloads are decent but not
>> >>> great
>> >>> for someone who wants to do podcasting as a full-time career. You'll
>> >>> notice
>> >>> that everyone else who podcasts on the RHAP network has a full-time
>> >>> job
>> >>> outside of the podcast. I’m pretty sure his wife Nicole still works
>> >>> full-time, and it’s noteworthy that he and his family left LA a few
>> >>> years
>> >>> back because of the high cost of living. Bottom line is that I’m
>> >>> pretty
>> >>> sure Rob C. would jump at the chance for a network hosting role, but
>> >>> I’m
>> >>> just not sure he would get the offer. Jeff certainly knows Rob C. and
>> >>> refers to him from time to time, but he’s never really been one of
>> >>> Jeff’s
>> >>> faves.
>> >>
>> >>Didn't Jeff do Rob's podcast once? They were also on a panel together
>> >>with
>> >>Parv in an excellent but not very well-known event to promote the start
>> >>of
>> >>Game Changers. The event was at a school in NYC and the moderator was
>> >>excellent. The big problem with Cesternino is would he be able to stop
>> >>himself from making wisecracks during challenges and TCs?
>> >
>> >Yes, Jeff has done an interview or two with Rob C, but I don't get the
>> >sense that he's really one of Jeff's favorites. If Jeff ever does
>> >retire,
>> >I just don't think that Rob C. will be high on the list of his
>> >recommended
>> >replacement candidates. And it won't be Jeff's call anyway or even Mark
>> >Burnett's - it will totally be up to CBS execs to decide whether to
>> >continue the show and who the host will be.
>> >>
>> >>> Kim S would do a great job hosting Survivor, and it would be great to
>> >>> have a
>> >>> female hosting the show. Women have hosted other reality shows, of
>> >>> course,
>> >>> notably Julie on Big Brother and more recently Alex on The Mole, but
>> >>> I'm
>> >>> pretty sure no woman has ever hosted any English-language Survivor
>> >>> season.
>> >>> I think there are probably many other former contestants who could do
>> >>> the
>> >>> job. Adam Klein is another name that comes to mind, though he's had
>> >>> his
>> >>> own
>> >>> issues with Jeff and the show recently. He has a strategic mind and I
>> >>> think
>> >>> he would do a pretty good job as host. But I still kind of think the
>> >>> powers
>> >>> that be will want a professional broadcaster in the role (remember
>> >>> that
>> >>> Jeff
>> >>> himself had experience as a game show host before Survivor), which is
>> >>> why I
>> >>> mentioned Rick Devens. And sure, Devens was associated with a mildly
>> >>> controversial season, but he was more of a victim of the twist that
>> >>> enabled
>> >>> Chris to win, so I don't think it will hurt him that much. And
>> >>> besides,
>> >>> much of the controversy over Survivor 38 got more than overshadowed
>> >>> by
>> >>> the
>> >>> absolute train wreck that was Survivor 39.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>
>> >>Is Devens still doing TV or has he moved onto something else? Not
>> >>saying
>> >>he wouldn't be good, but I think he would be a shocking choice. No way
>> >>in
>> >>hell Adam would get the job if Jeff has anything to say about.
>> >
>> >Not sure what Devens is doing nowadays. He co-hosted the Survivor On
>> >Fire
>> >podcast with Jeff, so he clearly has a pipeline to Jeff, which would
>> >help
>> >if Jeff ever steps down. I just did a quick Google on Devens and it says
>> >he left his morning anchor job when he filmed Survivor and then went on
>> >to
>> >be Communications Director at Middle Georgia State University in early
>> >2022. That sounds like a step down from TV anchorman, so I guess he may
>> >have had problems getting back into TV after doing Survivor. Other than
>> >the podcast with Jeff (which I've never listened to), I'm not sure what
>> >he's doing these days.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> This is the last thing I found on Devens from March 2022:
>>
>> https://www.mga.edu/news/2022/03/devens-joins-mga.php
>
>This jumped out at me when reading the press release:
>
>"My time on Survivor provided me with a lot of opportunities in other parts
>of the country but my wife and I are committed to this region. This is
>where our kids were born and it’s where we want to raise our family. To be
>part of the MGA family is the cherry on top.”
>
>Sounds like he would say no to hosting Survivor. We also need to keep in
>mind that none of these people would be offered the money Jeff is making.
>
>--
>Brian

On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 7:20:00 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> news:756276df-2589-4ef8...@googlegroups.com...
> >
> >On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> "Rick" wrote in message news:umicf4$3cb4$1...@dont-email.me...
> >> >
> >> >"Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >news:e63a9f9e-2463-42ea...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >>
> >> >>On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 10:11:54 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >>> news:01f7b732-5e1f-4a81...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 11:19:53 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >>> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >>> >> news:48316ed0-856c-4374...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 7:46:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >>> >> >> news:ca30cb27-456a-4376...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >>> >> >> >> news:018b96e5-275c-49b5...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick
> >> >>> >> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7, Rick
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9 :49:10 PM UTC-7,
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Emanuel
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Berg
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd type
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> society,
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> they
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> exist
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> society as well and since island life one would
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> think
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> would
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple of
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> those as
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> well every time IMO.
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >cast
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >in
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >the
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >New
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Era?
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG Stories
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >of
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >her
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >doing
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >a
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Zoom
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >producers.
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Katurah
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >was
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >gay
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >as
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >fucking
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >hell!
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >I
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse,
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >checking
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >the
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >right
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >boxes
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >is
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must have
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >submitted
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >one
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >hell
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >of
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >an audition video to get cast.
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >--
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Brian
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least one
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> token
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> straight
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> smart
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> guy
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> with
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Jake.
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >early
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >on.
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Hopefully
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >don't
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >cast
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >them.
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >--
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Brian
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to return
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> if
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> they
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> ever
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> do
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> returning players again. Last I heard was that they want
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> focus
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> on
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> new
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a while
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> before
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> they
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> do
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> another all-stars or second chances or something like
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> that.
> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >> >Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players but
> >> >>> >> >> >> >that
> >> >>> >> >> >> >clearly
> >> >>> >> >> >> >didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players about
> >> >>> >> >> >> >a
> >> >>> >> >> >> >year
> >> >>> >> >> >> >or
> >> >>> >> >> >> >so
> >> >>> >> >> >> >ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to
> >> >>> >> >> >> >bring
> >> >>> >> >> >> >back
> >> >>> >> >> >> >yet.
> >> >>> >> >> >> >My
> >> >>> >> >> >> >guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50 will
> >> >>> >> >> >> >be
> >> >>> >> >> >> >all
> >> >>> >> >> >> >returning but not necessarily just from the New Era.
> >> >>> >> >> >> >Hopefully
> >> >>> >> >> >> >Emily
> >> >>> >> >> >> >is
> >> >>> >> >> >> >willing to play again.
> >> >>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >> >--
> >> >>> >> >> >> She said in one of her interviews she would come back in a
> >> >>> >> >> >> heartbeat,
> >> >>> >> >> >> but
> >> >>> >> >> >> who knows how she will feel in another few years. When they
> >> >>> >> >> >> kicked
> >> >>> >> >> >> off
> >> >>> >> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> >> new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the
> >> >>> >> >> >> elimination of
> >> >>> >> >> >> "themes"
> >> >>> >> >> >> and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41, Survivor
> >> >>> >> >> >> 42
> >> >>> >> >> >> etc.,
> >> >>> >> >> >> which
> >> >>> >> >> >> could make a returning player season problematic.
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >Good to hear Emily is gung-ho about playing again but you're
> >> >>> >> >> >right
> >> >>> >> >> >that
> >> >>> >> >> >things can change down the road.
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >> I do like your optimism that the show will still be around
> >> >>> >> >> >> for
> >> >>> >> >> >> S50.
> >> >>> >> >> >> Hard
> >> >>> >> >> >> to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no
> >> >>> >> >> >> obvious
> >> >>> >> >> >> replacement
> >> >>> >> >> >> in
> >> >>> >> >> >> site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure who
> >> >>> >> >> >> would
> >> >>> >> >> >> or
> >> >>> >> >> >> could
> >> >>> >> >> >> replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian
> >> >>> >> >> >> franchise,
> >> >>> >> >> >> would
> >> >>> >> >> >> be
> >> >>> >> >> >> an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and spends a
> >> >>> >> >> >> lot of
> >> >>> >> >> >> time
> >> >>> >> >> >> in
> >> >>> >> >> >> the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be
> >> >>> >> >> >> possibilities,
> >> >>> >> >> >> though
> >> >>> >> >> >> neither has ever lead a network series like this. They used
> >> >>> >> >> >> to
> >> >>> >> >> >> often
> >> >>> >> >> >> mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR is
> >> >>> >> >> >> hanging
> >> >>> >> >> >> in
> >> >>> >> >> >> there
> >> >>> >> >> >> and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails" now.
> >> >>> >> >> >> I
> >> >>> >> >> >> hate
> >> >>> >> >> >> to
> >> >>> >> >> >> say
> >> >>> >> >> >> the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended) without
> >> >>> >> >> >> Jeff,
> >> >>> >> >> >> but
> >> >>> >> >> >> it's
> >> >>> >> >> >> hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the
> >> >>> >> >> >> lead
> >> >>> >> >> >> role.
> >> >>> >> >> >> --
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >65 isn't that old and Jeff's in good shape. Phil originally
> >> >>> >> >> >applied
> >> >>> >> >> >to
> >> >>> >> >> >be
> >> >>> >> >> >the host of Survivor, but Jeff got the job and Phil ended up
> >> >>> >> >> >getting
> >> >>> >> >> >TAR.
> >> >>> >> >> >With 90-minute episodes appearing to become permanent, I don't
> >> >>> >> >> >see
> >> >>> >> >> >TAR
> >> >>> >> >> >going anywhere. I also can't see anyone else hosting either
> >> >>> >> >> >show.
> >> >>> >> >> >Dalton
> >> >>> >> >> >probably has more knowledge about the show than anyone but I
> >> >>> >> >> >don't
> >> >>> >> >> >see
> >> >>> >> >> >that
> >> >>> >> >> >necessarily translating into him being a good host. Rob would
> >> >>> >> >> >be
> >> >>> >> >> >an
> >> >>> >> >> >interesting host but would he give up his podcasting empire?
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> Rob makes enough from podcasting to earn a small profit, but
> >> >>> >> >> it's
> >> >>> >> >> a
> >> >>> >> >> drop
> >> >>> >> >> in
> >> >>> >> >> the bucket compared to what he could make as the host of a
> >> >>> >> >> network
> >> >>> >> >> TV
> >> >>> >> >> show.
> >> >>> >> >> Very few podcasters make enough to be independently wealthy,
> >> >>> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >> Rob
> >> >>> >> >> is
> >> >>> >> >> certainly not that. In contrast, Jeff is a multi-millionaire
> >> >>> >> >> many
> >> >>> >> >> times
> >> >>> >> >> over and could have walked away from the show in its early
> >> >>> >> >> years
> >> >>> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >> been
> >> >>> >> >> set for life (in fact, he almost did that till they made him
> >> >>> >> >> showrunner).
> >> >>> >> >> So I have no doubt Rob would jump at the chance to host the
> >> >>> >> >> show.
> >> >>> >> >> But
> >> >>> >> >> would
> >> >>> >> >> CBS offer him the job? I kind of doubt it. The only comparable
> >> >>> >> >> situation
> >> >>> >> >> I
> >> >>> >> >> can think of was the Jeopardy producers awarding Ken Jennings
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> hosting
> >> >>> >> >> job after Alex Trebek's death, but that was a different
> >> >>> >> >> situation
> >> >>> >> >> since
> >> >>> >> >> Jennings was widely regarded as the greatest Jeopardy player
> >> >>> >> >> ever,
> >> >>> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >> he
> >> >>> >> >> had played in many all-star and celebrity versions of the show,
> >> >>> >> >> as
> >> >>> >> >> well
> >> >>> >> >> as
> >> >>> >> >> hosting a TV trivia series.. Rob is undeniably one of the great
> >> >>> >> >> Survivor
> >> >>> >> >> players, but he's been out of the general public eye for a good
> >> >>> >> >> 20
> >> >>> >> >> years,
> >> >>> >> >> would probably not be recognized by most Survivor viewers, and
> >> >>> >> >> has
> >> >>> >> >> no
> >> >>> >> >> TV
> >> >>> >> >> hosting experience, as far as I know. I think I might still
> >> >>> >> >> give
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> edge
> >> >>> >> >> to LaPaglia.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >Rob could take the job and have people like Fishbach and Mike
> >> >>> >> >Bloom
> >> >>> >> >host
> >> >>> >> >the Survivor podcasts for him. I don't think being out of the
> >> >>> >> >public
> >> >>> >> >eye
> >> >>> >> >would be a huge problem. He's very well-known in the Survivor
> >> >>> >> >community
> >> >>> >> >and
> >> >>> >> >reintroducing him to the general public wouldn't be that hard.
> >> >>> >> >The
> >> >>> >> >problem
> >> >>> >> >would that his hosting style would likely be very different than
> >> >>> >> >Jeff's.
> >> >>> >> >If
> >> >>> >> >they go with a past player, it would likely be Boston Rob. He's
> >> >>> >> >got
> >> >>> >> >the
> >> >>> >> >name recognition, hosting experience, he's a past winner, part of
> >> >>> >> >the
> >> >>> >> >CBS
> >> >>> >> >family, and his hosting style would likely be very close to
> >> >>> >> >Jeff's.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> Boston Rob could probably do it, but I'm not sure he'd want it at
> >> >>> >> this
> >> >>> >> stage
> >> >>> >> in his life with four teenage and pre-teen girls still living at
> >> >>> >> home.
> >> >>> >> That's a tough age to be separated from one of your parents for
> >> >>> >> that
> >> >>> >> many
> >> >>> >> months a year. He's also pretty set financially with his reality
> >> >>> >> show
> >> >>> >> and
> >> >>> >> poker winnings, etc. so he probably literally doesn't need the
> >> >>> >> money.
> >> >>> >> Another problem is that Boston Rob is kind of a polarizing figure
> >> >>> >> among
> >> >>> >> certain segments of the fandom, and I'm not sure the powers that
> >> >>> >> be
> >> >>> >> would
> >> >>> >> want someone who would take attention away from the players as he
> >> >>> >> might
> >> >>> >> do.
> >> >>> >> If they really want a former player, maybe they'd go with someone
> >> >>> >> like
> >> >>> >> Rick
> >> >>> >> Devens, who is an actual professional TV host.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Doesn't Cesternino have a couple of young kids?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >I saw a tweet tonight from Kim reminding people that the second
> >> >>> >season
> >> >>> >of
> >> >>> >her show on HGTV starts tonight. Kim would be an interesting choice
> >> >>> >to
> >> >>> >host
> >> >>> >Survivor. She's got hosting experience, she's recognizable to
> >> >>> >viewers,
> >> >>> >and
> >> >>> >she's likable. But would she give up everything she has now? She's
> >> >>> >also
> >> >>> >got
> >> >>> >three young kids. We know from Winners at War that she and Boston
> >> >>> >Rob
> >> >>> >can
> >> >>> >be separated from their kids for over a month so the kid aspect
> >> >>> >might
> >> >>> >not
> >> >>> >be an issue.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Do you think Rick Devans could overcome being associated with such a
> >> >>> >controversial season? A lot of people hate that season for various
> >> >>> >reasons.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >--
> >> >>> >Brian
> >> >>> Yes, Rob C. does have two young boys at home, but I think his
> >> >>> situation
> >> >>> is
> >> >>> radically different from Boston Rob’s. It’s not for nothing that Rob
> >> >>> C.
> >> >>> always refers to himself as the “Rob that sucks” when comparing
> >> >>> himself
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> Rob Mariano. He said it originally as a joke, but I think it has
> >> >>> evolved
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> highlight a big difference between them. Boston Rob is literally set
> >> >>> for
> >> >>> life – he has a great wife, four beautiful daughters, he is famous,
> >> >>> he
> >> >>> is
> >> >>> more than financially secure. He can write his own ticket and pick
> >> >>> and
> >> >>> choose what he wants to do in life. Yes, he and Amber did go back to
> >> >>> do
> >> >>> Survivor Winners at War (how could they possibly refuse that?) and he
> >> >>> did
> >> >>> that silly gig with Sandra the season before (which pretty much
> >> >>> flowed
> >> >>> into
> >> >>> Winners at War), but I just don’t think he’d want the commitment of
> >> >>> having
> >> >>> to be in Fiji for half the year every year at this stage in his life.
> >> >>
> >> >>I'm pretty sure that Jeff isn't in Fiji for half the year. I'd say
> >> >>three
> >> >>months tops with a long enough break between shooting the two seasons
> >> >>to
> >> >>go home. I don't see that being an issue for any of them, especially if
> >> >>they're paid well. You'd think Boston Rob is set for live but having
> >> >>four
> >> >>girls could bring big wedding costs plus there's college to think
> >> >>about. I
> >> >>also don't see him turning the gig down if it was ever offered to him.
> >> >
> >> >Well a season is 26 days now but there is also a mandatory 14-day
> >> >quarantine for everyone (including Jeff and the others working on the
> >> >show). There's also a couple weeks of setup and pre-game interviews and
> >> >testing all the challenges, etc., not to mention the breakdown of
> >> >everything after the season ends, and that's not even considering
> >> >weather
> >> >delays. It's hard for me to see them getting out in under two months,
> >> >and
> >> >that's assuming everything goes as planned, and that's just for one
> >> >season.
> >> >Double all that and to me, you’re looking at least four months if
> >> >everything goes smoothly, which I'm sure doesn't often happen.
> >> >
> >> >Rob and Amber probably have a net worth between them in the millions, so
> >> >I
> >> >don't think he really has a financial need to do Survivor. But you may
> >> >be
> >> >right he would take the gig if offered, if for no other reason than to
> >> >accept the challenge, but I just don't think it will be offered.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>> Rob C. is different. Unlike the Rob that doesn’t suck, Survivor is
> >> >>> really
> >> >>> Rob C’s big passion in life, and he has been living it for literally
> >> >>> half
> >> >>> his life. He’s not exactly struggling at podcasting, but I don’t
> >> >>> think
> >> >>> he
> >> >>> feels he has completely made it yet. His downloads are decent but not
> >> >>> great
> >> >>> for someone who wants to do podcasting as a full-time career. You'll
> >> >>> notice
> >> >>> that everyone else who podcasts on the RHAP network has a full-time
> >> >>> job
> >> >>> outside of the podcast. I’m pretty sure his wife Nicole still works
> >> >>> full-time, and it’s noteworthy that he and his family left LA a few
> >> >>> years
> >> >>> back because of the high cost of living. Bottom line is that I’m
> >> >>> pretty
> >> >>> sure Rob C. would jump at the chance for a network hosting role, but
> >> >>> I’m
> >> >>> just not sure he would get the offer. Jeff certainly knows Rob C. and
> >> >>> refers to him from time to time, but he’s never really been one of
> >> >>> Jeff’s
> >> >>> faves.
> >> >>
> >> >>Didn't Jeff do Rob's podcast once? They were also on a panel together
> >> >>with
> >> >>Parv in an excellent but not very well-known event to promote the start
> >> >>of
> >> >>Game Changers. The event was at a school in NYC and the moderator was
> >> >>excellent. The big problem with Cesternino is would he be able to stop
> >> >>himself from making wisecracks during challenges and TCs?
> >> >
> >> >Yes, Jeff has done an interview or two with Rob C, but I don't get the
> >> >sense that he's really one of Jeff's favorites. If Jeff ever does
> >> >retire,
> >> >I just don't think that Rob C. will be high on the list of his
> >> >recommended
> >> >replacement candidates. And it won't be Jeff's call anyway or even Mark
> >> >Burnett's - it will totally be up to CBS execs to decide whether to
> >> >continue the show and who the host will be.
> >> >>
> >> >>> Kim S would do a great job hosting Survivor, and it would be great to
> >> >>> have a
> >> >>> female hosting the show. Women have hosted other reality shows, of
> >> >>> course,
> >> >>> notably Julie on Big Brother and more recently Alex on The Mole, but
> >> >>> I'm
> >> >>> pretty sure no woman has ever hosted any English-language Survivor
> >> >>> season.
> >> >>> I think there are probably many other former contestants who could do
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> job. Adam Klein is another name that comes to mind, though he's had
> >> >>> his
> >> >>> own
> >> >>> issues with Jeff and the show recently. He has a strategic mind and I
> >> >>> think
> >> >>> he would do a pretty good job as host. But I still kind of think the
> >> >>> powers
> >> >>> that be will want a professional broadcaster in the role (remember
> >> >>> that
> >> >>> Jeff
> >> >>> himself had experience as a game show host before Survivor), which is
> >> >>> why I
> >> >>> mentioned Rick Devens. And sure, Devens was associated with a mildly
> >> >>> controversial season, but he was more of a victim of the twist that
> >> >>> enabled
> >> >>> Chris to win, so I don't think it will hurt him that much. And
> >> >>> besides,
> >> >>> much of the controversy over Survivor 38 got more than overshadowed
> >> >>> by
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> absolute train wreck that was Survivor 39.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>
> >> >>Is Devens still doing TV or has he moved onto something else? Not
> >> >>saying
> >> >>he wouldn't be good, but I think he would be a shocking choice. No way
> >> >>in
> >> >>hell Adam would get the job if Jeff has anything to say about.
> >> >
> >> >Not sure what Devens is doing nowadays. He co-hosted the Survivor On
> >> >Fire
> >> >podcast with Jeff, so he clearly has a pipeline to Jeff, which would
> >> >help
> >> >if Jeff ever steps down. I just did a quick Google on Devens and it says
> >> >he left his morning anchor job when he filmed Survivor and then went on
> >> >to
> >> >be Communications Director at Middle Georgia State University in early
> >> >2022. That sounds like a step down from TV anchorman, so I guess he may
> >> >have had problems getting back into TV after doing Survivor. Other than
> >> >the podcast with Jeff (which I've never listened to), I'm not sure what
> >> >he's doing these days.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> This is the last thing I found on Devens from March 2022:
> >>
> >> https://www.mga.edu/news/2022/03/devens-joins-mga.php
> >
> >This jumped out at me when reading the press release:
> >
> >"My time on Survivor provided me with a lot of opportunities in other parts
> >of the country but my wife and I are committed to this region. This is
> >where our kids were born and it’s where we want to raise our family. To be
> >part of the MGA family is the cherry on top.”
> >
> >Sounds like he would say no to hosting Survivor. We also need to keep in
> >mind that none of these people would be offered the money Jeff is making..
> >
> >--
> >Brian
> I don't think we should infer anything from the comments Devens made after
> taking a new job at a university. Of curse he's not going to say "We would
> certainly be open to relocating if someone offered a multi-million dollar
> salary to host a network TV series." He is going to make the politically
> correct statement that he is committed to the region and plans to remain
> here with his family for several years.
>
> And I agree the next host after Jeff won't make the same salary as Jeff,
> unless it's someone like Ryan Seacrest, whom they're certainly not going to
> get. But keep in mind Jeff makes around $8 million per year as combined
> host and showrunner, so even if the next person only gets a fourth of that,
> say $2 million a year, that's not exactly slave wages for most people. I'm
> pretty sure no-name Middle Georgia State University isn't paying Devens
> anything close to that, assuming Devens even still works there.
>
> --

"Brian Smith" wrote in message
news:65262ed8-ffb9-441a-a044-2140288a3c1cn@googlegroups.com...
>
>On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 7:20:00 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> news:756276df-2589-4ef8...@googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> >On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> "Rick" wrote in message news:umicf4$3cb4$1...@dont-email.me...
>> >> >
>> >> >"Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >news:e63a9f9e-2463-42ea...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 10:11:54 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> >>> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >>> news:01f7b732-5e1f-4a81...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 11:19:53 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> >>> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >>> >> news:48316ed0-856c-4374...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 7:46:54 PM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >>> >> >> news:ca30cb27-456a-4376...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, Rick
>> >> >>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >>> >> >> >> news:018b96e5-275c-49b5...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-7, Rick
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> news:a6d8b3e7-64a8-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:37:44 PM UTC-7,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Rick
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> "Brian Smith" wrote in message
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> news:53d8cc37-1114-4122...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 9 :49:10 PM UTC-7,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Emanuel
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Berg
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I accept the neurotic, very articulated nerd
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> type
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> personality is by now very common in modern
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> society,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Survivor casts should reflect that, but were are
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> old-school hardliner and adventure guys? Surely
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> exist
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> society as well and since island life one would
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> think
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> would
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> right up their alley, there should be a couple
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> those as
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> well every time IMO.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >I wonder if someone like Boston Rob would even get
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >cast
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >in
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >New
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Era?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Last week Katurah posted some clips to her IG
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Stories
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >of
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >her
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >doing
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >a
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Zoom
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >or Microsoft Teams call with one of the casting
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >producers.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Katurah
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >was
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >mentioning her sob stories and then added "And I'm
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >gay
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >as
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >fucking
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >hell!
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >I
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >check off all the boxes." For better or worse,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >checking
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >right
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >boxes
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >is
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >pretty key to getting cast nowadays. Emily must
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >have
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >submitted
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >one
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >hell
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >of
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >an audition video to get cast.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >--
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Brian
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Well even with diversity, you still need at least
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> one
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> token
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> straight
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> smart
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> white girl, and they got that with Emily.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Course they also got the token ADHD-ish goofy white
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> guy
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> with
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Jake.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Thank God Emily got cast. She saved the season for me
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >early
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >on.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Hopefully
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >in the future they see through people like Hannah and
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >don't
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >cast
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >them.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >--
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Brian
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Emily was definitely a find, and she's a lock to
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> return
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> if
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> ever
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> do
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> returning players again. Last I heard was that they
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> want
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> focus
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> on
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> new
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> players in the "new era" so it will probably be a
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> while
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> before
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> do
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> another all-stars or second chances or something like
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> that.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >Dalton thought S46 was going to have returning players
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >but
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >that
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >clearly
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >didn't happen. Jeff was asked about returning players
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >about
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >a
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >year
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >or
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >so
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >ago and said there wasn't enough compelling players to
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >bring
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >back
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >yet.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >My
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >guess is S48 will have a few returning players and S50
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >will
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >be
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >all
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >returning but not necessarily just from the New Era.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >Hopefully
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >Emily
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >is
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >willing to play again.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >--
>> >> >>> >> >> >> She said in one of her interviews she would come back in
>> >> >>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >>> >> >> >> heartbeat,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> but
>> >> >>> >> >> >> who knows how she will feel in another few years. When
>> >> >>> >> >> >> they
>> >> >>> >> >> >> kicked
>> >> >>> >> >> >> off
>> >> >>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> new era a few years ago one of their mantras was the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> elimination of
>> >> >>> >> >> >> "themes"
>> >> >>> >> >> >> and simpIy designating each season as Survivor 41,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> Survivor
>> >> >>> >> >> >> 42
>> >> >>> >> >> >> etc.,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> which
>> >> >>> >> >> >> could make a returning player season problematic.
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >Good to hear Emily is gung-ho about playing again but
>> >> >>> >> >> >you're
>> >> >>> >> >> >right
>> >> >>> >> >> >that
>> >> >>> >> >> >things can change down the road.
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> I do like your optimism that the show will still be
>> >> >>> >> >> >> around
>> >> >>> >> >> >> for
>> >> >>> >> >> >> S50.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> Hard
>> >> >>> >> >> >> to believe, but Jeff will be 65 by that point with no
>> >> >>> >> >> >> obvious
>> >> >>> >> >> >> replacement
>> >> >>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >>> >> >> >> site. If he ever decides to call it a day, I'm not sure
>> >> >>> >> >> >> who
>> >> >>> >> >> >> would
>> >> >>> >> >> >> or
>> >> >>> >> >> >> could
>> >> >>> >> >> >> replace him. Jonathan LaPaglia, who does the Australian
>> >> >>> >> >> >> franchise,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> would
>> >> >>> >> >> >> be
>> >> >>> >> >> >> an interesting choice since he's a dual citizen and
>> >> >>> >> >> >> spends a
>> >> >>> >> >> >> lot of
>> >> >>> >> >> >> time
>> >> >>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >>> >> >> >> the US anyway. I suppose Rob C or Dalton would be
>> >> >>> >> >> >> possibilities,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> though
>> >> >>> >> >> >> neither has ever lead a network series like this. They
>> >> >>> >> >> >> used
>> >> >>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >>> >> >> >> often
>> >> >>> >> >> >> mention Phil Keoghan as a possible replacement, but TAR
>> >> >>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >>> >> >> >> hanging
>> >> >>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >>> >> >> >> there
>> >> >>> >> >> >> and keeps coming back, and he also has "Tough as Nails"
>> >> >>> >> >> >> now.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >>> >> >> >> hate
>> >> >>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >>> >> >> >> say
>> >> >>> >> >> >> the show would have trouble surviving (pun intended)
>> >> >>> >> >> >> without
>> >> >>> >> >> >> Jeff,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> but
>> >> >>> >> >> >> it's
>> >> >>> >> >> >> hard to imagine someone else other than maybe JLP in the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> lead
>> >> >>> >> >> >> role.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >65 isn't that old and Jeff's in good shape. Phil originally
>> >> >>> >> >> >applied
>> >> >>> >> >> >to
>> >> >>> >> >> >be
>> >> >>> >> >> >the host of Survivor, but Jeff got the job and Phil ended
>> >> >>> >> >> >up
>> >> >>> >> >> >getting
>> >> >>> >> >> >TAR.
>> >> >>> >> >> >With 90-minute episodes appearing to become permanent, I
>> >> >>> >> >> >don't
>> >> >>> >> >> >see
>> >> >>> >> >> >TAR
>> >> >>> >> >> >going anywhere. I also can't see anyone else hosting either
>> >> >>> >> >> >show.
>> >> >>> >> >> >Dalton
>> >> >>> >> >> >probably has more knowledge about the show than anyone but
>> >> >>> >> >> >I
>> >> >>> >> >> >don't
>> >> >>> >> >> >see
>> >> >>> >> >> >that
>> >> >>> >> >> >necessarily translating into him being a good host. Rob
>> >> >>> >> >> >would
>> >> >>> >> >> >be
>> >> >>> >> >> >an
>> >> >>> >> >> >interesting host but would he give up his podcasting
>> >> >>> >> >> >empire?
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> Rob makes enough from podcasting to earn a small profit, but
>> >> >>> >> >> it's
>> >> >>> >> >> a
>> >> >>> >> >> drop
>> >> >>> >> >> in
>> >> >>> >> >> the bucket compared to what he could make as the host of a
>> >> >>> >> >> network
>> >> >>> >> >> TV
>> >> >>> >> >> show.
>> >> >>> >> >> Very few podcasters make enough to be independently wealthy,
>> >> >>> >> >> and
>> >> >>> >> >> Rob
>> >> >>> >> >> is
>> >> >>> >> >> certainly not that. In contrast, Jeff is a multi-millionaire
>> >> >>> >> >> many
>> >> >>> >> >> times
>> >> >>> >> >> over and could have walked away from the show in its early
>> >> >>> >> >> years
>> >> >>> >> >> and
>> >> >>> >> >> been
>> >> >>> >> >> set for life (in fact, he almost did that till they made him
>> >> >>> >> >> showrunner).
>> >> >>> >> >> So I have no doubt Rob would jump at the chance to host the
>> >> >>> >> >> show.
>> >> >>> >> >> But
>> >> >>> >> >> would
>> >> >>> >> >> CBS offer him the job? I kind of doubt it. The only
>> >> >>> >> >> comparable
>> >> >>> >> >> situation
>> >> >>> >> >> I
>> >> >>> >> >> can think of was the Jeopardy producers awarding Ken
>> >> >>> >> >> Jennings
>> >> >>> >> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> hosting
>> >> >>> >> >> job after Alex Trebek's death, but that was a different
>> >> >>> >> >> situation
>> >> >>> >> >> since
>> >> >>> >> >> Jennings was widely regarded as the greatest Jeopardy player
>> >> >>> >> >> ever,
>> >> >>> >> >> and
>> >> >>> >> >> he
>> >> >>> >> >> had played in many all-star and celebrity versions of the
>> >> >>> >> >> show,
>> >> >>> >> >> as
>> >> >>> >> >> well
>> >> >>> >> >> as
>> >> >>> >> >> hosting a TV trivia series.. Rob is undeniably one of the
>> >> >>> >> >> great
>> >> >>> >> >> Survivor
>> >> >>> >> >> players, but he's been out of the general public eye for a
>> >> >>> >> >> good
>> >> >>> >> >> 20
>> >> >>> >> >> years,
>> >> >>> >> >> would probably not be recognized by most Survivor viewers,
>> >> >>> >> >> and
>> >> >>> >> >> has
>> >> >>> >> >> no
>> >> >>> >> >> TV
>> >> >>> >> >> hosting experience, as far as I know. I think I might still
>> >> >>> >> >> give
>> >> >>> >> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> edge
>> >> >>> >> >> to LaPaglia.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >Rob could take the job and have people like Fishbach and Mike
>> >> >>> >> >Bloom
>> >> >>> >> >host
>> >> >>> >> >the Survivor podcasts for him. I don't think being out of the
>> >> >>> >> >public
>> >> >>> >> >eye
>> >> >>> >> >would be a huge problem. He's very well-known in the Survivor
>> >> >>> >> >community
>> >> >>> >> >and
>> >> >>> >> >reintroducing him to the general public wouldn't be that hard.
>> >> >>> >> >The
>> >> >>> >> >problem
>> >> >>> >> >would that his hosting style would likely be very different
>> >> >>> >> >than
>> >> >>> >> >Jeff's.
>> >> >>> >> >If
>> >> >>> >> >they go with a past player, it would likely be Boston Rob.
>> >> >>> >> >He's
>> >> >>> >> >got
>> >> >>> >> >the
>> >> >>> >> >name recognition, hosting experience, he's a past winner, part
>> >> >>> >> >of
>> >> >>> >> >the
>> >> >>> >> >CBS
>> >> >>> >> >family, and his hosting style would likely be very close to
>> >> >>> >> >Jeff's.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> Boston Rob could probably do it, but I'm not sure he'd want it
>> >> >>> >> at
>> >> >>> >> this
>> >> >>> >> stage
>> >> >>> >> in his life with four teenage and pre-teen girls still living
>> >> >>> >> at
>> >> >>> >> home.
>> >> >>> >> That's a tough age to be separated from one of your parents for
>> >> >>> >> that
>> >> >>> >> many
>> >> >>> >> months a year. He's also pretty set financially with his
>> >> >>> >> reality
>> >> >>> >> show
>> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> poker winnings, etc. so he probably literally doesn't need the
>> >> >>> >> money.
>> >> >>> >> Another problem is that Boston Rob is kind of a polarizing
>> >> >>> >> figure
>> >> >>> >> among
>> >> >>> >> certain segments of the fandom, and I'm not sure the powers
>> >> >>> >> that
>> >> >>> >> be
>> >> >>> >> would
>> >> >>> >> want someone who would take attention away from the players as
>> >> >>> >> he
>> >> >>> >> might
>> >> >>> >> do.
>> >> >>> >> If they really want a former player, maybe they'd go with
>> >> >>> >> someone
>> >> >>> >> like
>> >> >>> >> Rick
>> >> >>> >> Devens, who is an actual professional TV host.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >Doesn't Cesternino have a couple of young kids?
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >I saw a tweet tonight from Kim reminding people that the second
>> >> >>> >season
>> >> >>> >of
>> >> >>> >her show on HGTV starts tonight. Kim would be an interesting
>> >> >>> >choice
>> >> >>> >to
>> >> >>> >host
>> >> >>> >Survivor. She's got hosting experience, she's recognizable to
>> >> >>> >viewers,
>> >> >>> >and
>> >> >>> >she's likable. But would she give up everything she has now?
>> >> >>> >She's
>> >> >>> >also
>> >> >>> >got
>> >> >>> >three young kids. We know from Winners at War that she and Boston
>> >> >>> >Rob
>> >> >>> >can
>> >> >>> >be separated from their kids for over a month so the kid aspect
>> >> >>> >might
>> >> >>> >not
>> >> >>> >be an issue.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >Do you think Rick Devans could overcome being associated with
>> >> >>> >such a
>> >> >>> >controversial season? A lot of people hate that season for
>> >> >>> >various
>> >> >>> >reasons.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >--
>> >> >>> >Brian
>> >> >>> Yes, Rob C. does have two young boys at home, but I think his
>> >> >>> situation
>> >> >>> is
>> >> >>> radically different from Boston Rob’s. It’s not for nothing that
>> >> >>> Rob
>> >> >>> C.
>> >> >>> always refers to himself as the “Rob that sucks” when comparing
>> >> >>> himself
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> Rob Mariano. He said it originally as a joke, but I think it has
>> >> >>> evolved
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> highlight a big difference between them. Boston Rob is literally
>> >> >>> set
>> >> >>> for
>> >> >>> life – he has a great wife, four beautiful daughters, he is
>> >> >>> famous,
>> >> >>> he
>> >> >>> is
>> >> >>> more than financially secure. He can write his own ticket and pick
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> choose what he wants to do in life. Yes, he and Amber did go back
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> do
>> >> >>> Survivor Winners at War (how could they possibly refuse that?) and
>> >> >>> he
>> >> >>> did
>> >> >>> that silly gig with Sandra the season before (which pretty much
>> >> >>> flowed
>> >> >>> into
>> >> >>> Winners at War), but I just don’t think he’d want the commitment
>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> having
>> >> >>> to be in Fiji for half the year every year at this stage in his
>> >> >>> life.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I'm pretty sure that Jeff isn't in Fiji for half the year. I'd say
>> >> >>three
>> >> >>months tops with a long enough break between shooting the two
>> >> >>seasons
>> >> >>to
>> >> >>go home. I don't see that being an issue for any of them, especially
>> >> >>if
>> >> >>they're paid well. You'd think Boston Rob is set for live but having
>> >> >>four
>> >> >>girls could bring big wedding costs plus there's college to think
>> >> >>about. I
>> >> >>also don't see him turning the gig down if it was ever offered to
>> >> >>him.
>> >> >
>> >> >Well a season is 26 days now but there is also a mandatory 14-day
>> >> >quarantine for everyone (including Jeff and the others working on the
>> >> >show). There's also a couple weeks of setup and pre-game interviews
>> >> >and
>> >> >testing all the challenges, etc., not to mention the breakdown of
>> >> >everything after the season ends, and that's not even considering
>> >> >weather
>> >> >delays. It's hard for me to see them getting out in under two months,
>> >> >and
>> >> >that's assuming everything goes as planned, and that's just for one
>> >> >season.
>> >> >Double all that and to me, you’re looking at least four months if
>> >> >everything goes smoothly, which I'm sure doesn't often happen.
>> >> >
>> >> >Rob and Amber probably have a net worth between them in the millions,
>> >> >so
>> >> >I
>> >> >don't think he really has a financial need to do Survivor. But you
>> >> >may
>> >> >be
>> >> >right he would take the gig if offered, if for no other reason than
>> >> >to
>> >> >accept the challenge, but I just don't think it will be offered.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Rob C. is different. Unlike the Rob that doesn’t suck, Survivor is
>> >> >>> really
>> >> >>> Rob C’s big passion in life, and he has been living it for
>> >> >>> literally
>> >> >>> half
>> >> >>> his life. He’s not exactly struggling at podcasting, but I don’t
>> >> >>> think
>> >> >>> he
>> >> >>> feels he has completely made it yet. His downloads are decent but
>> >> >>> not
>> >> >>> great
>> >> >>> for someone who wants to do podcasting as a full-time career.
>> >> >>> You'll
>> >> >>> notice
>> >> >>> that everyone else who podcasts on the RHAP network has a
>> >> >>> full-time
>> >> >>> job
>> >> >>> outside of the podcast. I’m pretty sure his wife Nicole still
>> >> >>> works
>> >> >>> full-time, and it’s noteworthy that he and his family left LA a
>> >> >>> few
>> >> >>> years
>> >> >>> back because of the high cost of living. Bottom line is that I’m
>> >> >>> pretty
>> >> >>> sure Rob C. would jump at the chance for a network hosting role,
>> >> >>> but
>> >> >>> I’m
>> >> >>> just not sure he would get the offer. Jeff certainly knows Rob C.
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> refers to him from time to time, but he’s never really been one of
>> >> >>> Jeff’s
>> >> >>> faves.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Didn't Jeff do Rob's podcast once? They were also on a panel
>> >> >>together
>> >> >>with
>> >> >>Parv in an excellent but not very well-known event to promote the
>> >> >>start
>> >> >>of
>> >> >>Game Changers. The event was at a school in NYC and the moderator
>> >> >>was
>> >> >>excellent. The big problem with Cesternino is would he be able to
>> >> >>stop
>> >> >>himself from making wisecracks during challenges and TCs?
>> >> >
>> >> >Yes, Jeff has done an interview or two with Rob C, but I don't get
>> >> >the
>> >> >sense that he's really one of Jeff's favorites. If Jeff ever does
>> >> >retire,
>> >> >I just don't think that Rob C. will be high on the list of his
>> >> >recommended
>> >> >replacement candidates. And it won't be Jeff's call anyway or even
>> >> >Mark
>> >> >Burnett's - it will totally be up to CBS execs to decide whether to
>> >> >continue the show and who the host will be.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Kim S would do a great job hosting Survivor, and it would be great
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> have a
>> >> >>> female hosting the show. Women have hosted other reality shows, of
>> >> >>> course,
>> >> >>> notably Julie on Big Brother and more recently Alex on The Mole,
>> >> >>> but
>> >> >>> I'm
>> >> >>> pretty sure no woman has ever hosted any English-language Survivor
>> >> >>> season.
>> >> >>> I think there are probably many other former contestants who could
>> >> >>> do
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> job. Adam Klein is another name that comes to mind, though he's
>> >> >>> had
>> >> >>> his
>> >> >>> own
>> >> >>> issues with Jeff and the show recently. He has a strategic mind
>> >> >>> and I
>> >> >>> think
>> >> >>> he would do a pretty good job as host. But I still kind of think
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> powers
>> >> >>> that be will want a professional broadcaster in the role (remember
>> >> >>> that
>> >> >>> Jeff
>> >> >>> himself had experience as a game show host before Survivor), which
>> >> >>> is
>> >> >>> why I
>> >> >>> mentioned Rick Devens. And sure, Devens was associated with a
>> >> >>> mildly
>> >> >>> controversial season, but he was more of a victim of the twist
>> >> >>> that
>> >> >>> enabled
>> >> >>> Chris to win, so I don't think it will hurt him that much. And
>> >> >>> besides,
>> >> >>> much of the controversy over Survivor 38 got more than
>> >> >>> overshadowed
>> >> >>> by
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> absolute train wreck that was Survivor 39.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Is Devens still doing TV or has he moved onto something else? Not
>> >> >>saying
>> >> >>he wouldn't be good, but I think he would be a shocking choice. No
>> >> >>way
>> >> >>in
>> >> >>hell Adam would get the job if Jeff has anything to say about.
>> >> >
>> >> >Not sure what Devens is doing nowadays. He co-hosted the Survivor On
>> >> >Fire
>> >> >podcast with Jeff, so he clearly has a pipeline to Jeff, which would
>> >> >help
>> >> >if Jeff ever steps down. I just did a quick Google on Devens and it
>> >> >says
>> >> >he left his morning anchor job when he filmed Survivor and then went
>> >> >on
>> >> >to
>> >> >be Communications Director at Middle Georgia State University in
>> >> >early
>> >> >2022. That sounds like a step down from TV anchorman, so I guess he
>> >> >may
>> >> >have had problems getting back into TV after doing Survivor. Other
>> >> >than
>> >> >the podcast with Jeff (which I've never listened to), I'm not sure
>> >> >what
>> >> >he's doing these days.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> This is the last thing I found on Devens from March 2022:
>> >>
>> >> https://www.mga.edu/news/2022/03/devens-joins-mga.php
>> >
>> >This jumped out at me when reading the press release:
>> >
>> >"My time on Survivor provided me with a lot of opportunities in other
>> >parts
>> >of the country but my wife and I are committed to this region. This is
>> >where our kids were born and it’s where we want to raise our family. To
>> >be
>> >part of the MGA family is the cherry on top.”
>> >
>> >Sounds like he would say no to hosting Survivor. We also need to keep in
>> >mind that none of these people would be offered the money Jeff is
>> >making.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Brian
>> I don't think we should infer anything from the comments Devens made
>> after
>> taking a new job at a university. Of curse he's not going to say "We
>> would
>> certainly be open to relocating if someone offered a multi-million dollar
>> salary to host a network TV series." He is going to make the politically
>> correct statement that he is committed to the region and plans to remain
>> here with his family for several years.
>>
>> And I agree the next host after Jeff won't make the same salary as Jeff,
>> unless it's someone like Ryan Seacrest, whom they're certainly not going
>> to
>> get. But keep in mind Jeff makes around $8 million per year as combined
>> host and showrunner, so even if the next person only gets a fourth of
>> that,
>> say $2 million a year, that's not exactly slave wages for most people.
>> I'm
>> pretty sure no-name Middle Georgia State University isn't paying Devens
>> anything close to that, assuming Devens even still works there.
>>
>> --
>
>Ryan Seacrest as host would be death for the show. It would just be too
>weird for most people.
>
>Not sure if you're aware of this, Devens was cohost on Jeff's podcast for
>S45. Could be a trial run for his eventual takeover. ;--)
>
>--
>Brian