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by: Lynn McGuire - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 04:32 UTC

Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:

1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
15. “Going Home” by A. American
16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
19. “The Postman” by David Brin
20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller

Lynn

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by: WolfFan - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:56 UTC

On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
(in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1@dont-email.me>):

> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>
> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber

Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
>
> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling

major plot hole due to physics
>
> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo

too many guns
>
> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo

he really loves things that go boom
>
> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>
> Lynn

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by: Lynn McGuire - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 20:24 UTC

On 9/26/2023 7:56 AM, WolfFan wrote:
> On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
> (in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1@dont-email.me>):
>
>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>
>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>
> Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
>>
>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
>
> major plot hole due to physics
>>
>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
>
> too many guns
>>
>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
>
> he really loves things that go boom
>>
>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>>
>> Lynn

I have a very high suspension of disbelief.

Lynn

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by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 03:10 UTC

On 9/25/2023 11:32 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>
> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>
> Lynn

I am adding 28. "Monster Hunter International" by Larry Carreia

Lynn

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by: a425couple - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 18:01 UTC

On 9/25/23 21:32, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>
> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein

You have 27, or 28 in your "top ten" list. OK.

I think a list like this should include:
"Starship Troopers" by Robert Heinlein.
"Rendezvous with Rama" by Arthur C. Clarke
"The Fountains of Paradise" by Arthur C. Clarke
"The Songs of Distant Earth" by Arthur C. Clarke
"2001 a Space Odyssey" (and 2010 and 2061) by Arthur C. Clarke
"Childhoods End" by Arthur C. Clarke
Robert Silverberg deserves inclusion from his number of books,
longevity, and variety of ideas, I'll suggest "Nightwings",
"Hawksbill Station" and "Tower of Glass".
"Seed of Light" by Edmund Cooper

> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>
> Lynn

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by: ted@loft.tnolan.com - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 18:11 UTC

In article <%5_QM.213899$GHI6.106352@fx17.iad>,
a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 9/25/23 21:32, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>
>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>
>You have 27, or 28 in your "top ten" list. OK.
>

--Increasingly inaccurately named-- is an SF tradition..

--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

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by: Lynn McGuire - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 02:34 UTC

On 9/27/2023 1:11 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <%5_QM.213899$GHI6.106352@fx17.iad>,
> a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/25/23 21:32, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>>
>>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>>
>> You have 27, or 28 in your "top ten" list. OK.
>>
>
> --Increasingly inaccurately named-- is an SF tradition..

My increasingly inaccurately named or the group as a whole ?

Lynn

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by: Lynn McGuire - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 02:37 UTC

On 9/27/2023 1:01 PM, a425couple wrote:
> On 9/25/23 21:32, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>
>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>
> You have 27, or 28 in your "top ten" list. OK.
>
> I think a list like this should include:
> "Starship Troopers" by Robert Heinlein.
> "Rendezvous with Rama" by Arthur C. Clarke
> "The Fountains of Paradise" by Arthur C. Clarke
> "The Songs of Distant Earth" by Arthur C. Clarke
> "2001 a Space Odyssey" (and 2010 and 2061) by Arthur C. Clarke
> "Childhoods End" by Arthur C. Clarke
> Robert Silverberg deserves inclusion from his number of books,
> longevity, and variety of ideas, I'll suggest "Nightwings",
> "Hawksbill Station" and "Tower of Glass".
> "Seed of Light" by Edmund Cooper
>
>
>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>>
>> Lynn

Yup, those are all five star books. Just not six stars for me. Six
stars means that I have read it three times or more. And of course the
xkcd rating rule applies.
https://xkcd.com/1098/

Lynn

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by: ted@loft.tnolan.com - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 02:41 UTC

In article <uf2onh$3gkpp$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 9/27/2023 1:11 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> In article <%5_QM.213899$GHI6.106352@fx17.iad>,
>> a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/25/23 21:32, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>>>
>>>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>>>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>>>
>>> You have 27, or 28 in your "top ten" list. OK.
>>>
>>
>> --Increasingly inaccurately named-- is an SF tradition..
>
>My increasingly inaccurately named or the group as a whole ?
>
>Lynn
>
>

Items that overflow their numerology. Such as trilogies.
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

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by: Dorothy J Heydt - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 03:17 UTC

[Hal Heydt]
it's approxiamately the top e*10 list at this point.

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by: Lynn McGuire - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 22:37 UTC

On 9/27/2023 10:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <uf2onh$3gkpp$1@dont-email.me>,
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/27/2023 1:11 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>> In article <%5_QM.213899$GHI6.106352@fx17.iad>,
>>> a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/25/23 21:32, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>>>>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>>>>
>>>> You have 27, or 28 in your "top ten" list. OK.
>>>>
>>>
>>> --Increasingly inaccurately named-- is an SF tradition..
>>
>> My increasingly inaccurately named or the group as a whole ?
>
> [Hal Heydt]
> it's approxiamately the top e*10 list at this point.

Heh !

Lynn

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by: Lynn McGuire - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 01:08 UTC

Didn't Arthur C. Clarke say something about technology ? Oh yeah, "In
1962, in his book “Profiles of the Future: An Inquiry into the Limits of
the Possible”, science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke formulated his
famous Three Laws, of which the third law is the best-known and most
widely cited: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable
from magic”."

Lynn

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by: Lynn McGuire - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:11 UTC

On 9/26/2023 10:10 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 9/25/2023 11:32 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>
>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>>
>> Lynn
>
> I am adding 28. "Monster Hunter International" by Larry Carreia
>
> Lynn

Somebody somewhere told me this is a list of young men's adventure
stories. They were not wrong.

Lynn

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by: Lynn McGuire - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:24 UTC

You can never have too many guns. Just ask General Custer who left his
Gatling guns behind for his last march.

Lynn

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by: Scott Lurndal - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:39 UTC

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>On 9/26/2023 7:56 AM, WolfFan wrote:
>> On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
>> (in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1@dont-email.me>):
>>
>>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>>
>>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>>
>> Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
>>>
>>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
>>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
>>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
>>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
>>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
>>
>> major plot hole due to physics
>>>
>>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
>>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
>>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
>>
>> too many guns
>>>
>>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
>>
>> he really loves things that go boom
>>>
>>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
>>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
>>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
>>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
>>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
>>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
>>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
>>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
>>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
>>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
>>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
>>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
>>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
>>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>>>
>>> Lynn
>
>You can never have too many guns.

Most americans (68%) don't have guns. Don't need guns. And don't want guns.

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by: Lynn McGuire - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:42 UTC

On 11/27/2023 2:39 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>> On 9/26/2023 7:56 AM, WolfFan wrote:
>>> On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
>>> (in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>>>
>>>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>>>
>>> Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
>>>>
>>>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>>>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
>>>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
>>>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
>>>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
>>>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
>>>
>>> major plot hole due to physics
>>>>
>>>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
>>>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
>>>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
>>>
>>> too many guns
>>>>
>>>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
>>>
>>> he really loves things that go boom
>>>>
>>>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
>>>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
>>>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
>>>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
>>>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
>>>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
>>>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
>>>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
>>>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
>>>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
>>>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
>>>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
>>>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
>>>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>>>>
>>>> Lynn
>>
>> You can never have too many guns.
>
> Most americans (68%) don't have guns. Don't need guns. And don't want guns.

You are wrong again. "Most American households have gun owners, poll
shows: ‘Stunning number’"
https://nypost.com/2023/11/22/news/most-american-households-have-gun-owners-poll-shows/

"A majority of American households include at least one gun owner,
according to a new survey that also shows a sharp increase in the number
of firearm owners over the past decade."

"The NBC News national poll found that 52% of Americans say they or
someone in their household owns a firearm, the highest share since the
outlet first surveyed the question in 1999."

Lynn

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by: Dimensional Traveler - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:54 UTC

On 11/27/2023 11:24 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>
> You can never have too many guns. Just ask General Custer who left his
> Gatling guns behind for his last march.
>
They wouldn't have made a difference at Little Big Horn.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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by: Scott Lurndal - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:29 UTC

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>On 11/27/2023 2:39 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>> On 9/26/2023 7:56 AM, WolfFan wrote:
>>>> On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
>>>> (in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>>
>>>>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>>>>
>>>> Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>>>>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
>>>>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
>>>>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
>>>>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
>>>>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
>>>>
>>>> major plot hole due to physics
>>>>>
>>>>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
>>>>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
>>>>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
>>>>
>>>> too many guns
>>>>>
>>>>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
>>>>
>>>> he really loves things that go boom
>>>>>
>>>>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>>>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>>>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
>>>>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
>>>>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
>>>>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
>>>>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
>>>>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
>>>>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
>>>>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
>>>>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
>>>>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
>>>>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
>>>>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
>>>>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
>>>>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn
>>>
>>> You can never have too many guns.
>>
>> Most americans (68%) don't have guns. Don't need guns. And don't want guns.
>
>You are wrong again. "Most American households have gun owners, poll
>shows: ‘Stunning number’"
>
>https://nypost.com/2023/11/22/news/most-american-households-have-gun-owners-poll-shows/
>
>"A majority of American households include at least one gun owner,

https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx

"Thirty-two percent of U.S. adults say they personally own a gun"

"while a larger percentage, 44%, report living in a gun household"

Pay attention. 68% of americans do not own a gun. And of the 44%,
most of them are too young to legally purchase a gun.

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by: Bob Casanova - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:39 UTC

On Mon, 27 Nov 2023 15:42:41 -0600, the following appeared
in alt.books.david-weber, posted by Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>:

>On 11/27/2023 2:39 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>> On 9/26/2023 7:56 AM, WolfFan wrote:
>>>> On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
>>>> (in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>>
>>>>> Lynns six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Mutineers Moon by David Weber
>>>>
>>>> Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Citizen Of The Galaxy by Robert Heinlein
>>>>> 3. The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein
>>>>> 4. The Star Beast by Robert Heinlein
>>>>> 5. Shards Of Honor by Lois McMaster Bujold
>>>>> 6. Jumper by Steven Gould
>>>>> 7. Dies The Fire by S. M. Stirling
>>>>
>>>> major plot hole due to physics
>>>>>
>>>>> 8. Emergence by David Palmer
>>>>> 9. The Tar-Aiym Krang by Alan Dean Foster
>>>>> 10. Under A Graveyard Sky by John Ringo
>>>>
>>>> too many guns
>>>>>
>>>>> 11. Live Free Or Die by John Ringo
>>>>
>>>> he really loves things that go boom
>>>>>
>>>>> 12. Footfall by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>>>> 13. Lucifers Hammer by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>>>> 14. The Zero Stone by Andre Norton
>>>>> 15. Going Home by A. American
>>>>> 16. Enders Game by Orson Scott Card
>>>>> 17. Ready Player One by Ernest Cline
>>>>> 18. The Martian by Andy Weir
>>>>> 19. The Postman by David Brin
>>>>> 20. We Are Legion by Dennis E. Taylor
>>>>> 21. Bitten by Kelley Armstrong
>>>>> 22. Moon Called by Patrica Briggs
>>>>> 23. Red Thunder by John Varley
>>>>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
>>>>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
>>>>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
>>>>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn
>>>
>>> You can never have too many guns.
>>
>> Most americans (68%) don't have guns. Don't need guns. And don't want guns.
>
>You are wrong again. "Most American households have gun owners, poll
>shows: Stunning number"
>
>https://nypost.com/2023/11/22/news/most-american-households-have-gun-owners-poll-shows/
>
>"A majority of American households include at least one gun owner,
>according to a new survey that also shows a sharp increase in the number
>of firearm owners over the past decade."
>
>"The NBC News national poll found that 52% of Americans say they or
>someone in their household owns a firearm, the highest share since the
>outlet first surveyed the question in 1999."
>
I suspect a game of semantics; his "68%" probably includes
ALL Americans, from birth on up. And the objections to some
of the books posted by a previous respondent indicate a lack
of comprehension - "major plot hole due to physics" about
what is essentially a fantasy?; "too may guns" about a
zombie apocalypse? Sheesh...

BTW, your data are correct, and may even be significantly
low; very few would claim to have a gun when they don't,
while the converse, especially in today's leftist and
litigious (BIRM) climate, is probably not true.
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

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by: Lynn McGuire - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:22 UTC

On 11/27/2023 3:54 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 11/27/2023 11:24 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>
>> You can never have too many guns. Just ask General Custer who left
>> his Gatling guns behind for his last march.
>>
> They wouldn't have made a difference at Little Big Horn.

Why not ?

Lynn

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by: Dimensional Traveler - Tue, 28 Nov 2023 04:59 UTC

On 11/27/2023 3:22 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 11/27/2023 3:54 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>> On 11/27/2023 11:24 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>
>>> You can never have too many guns. Just ask General Custer who left
>>> his Gatling guns behind for his last march.
>>>
>> They wouldn't have made a difference at Little Big Horn.
>
> Why not ?
>
Custer's command was split into multiple sub-units, allowing them to be
defeated in detail. (Except one which had the good sense to bug-out
ASAP after their first contact.) Also much of the battle was a running
battle, the "fixed position" bit didn't occur until the very end by
which point the US Army units were surrounded and massively
out-numbered. Gatling guns can't fire on the move and even when set up
(which takes time) they didn't have a rate of fire comparable to current
automatic weapons and didn't have enough munitions to have tipped the
balance.

About the only way I can see Gatling Guns saving Custer and his command
was by slowing them down enough that the Native Americans had simply
left by the time the 7th Cavalry reached Little Big Horn. That was why
Custer left them behind in the first place.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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by: Lynn McGuire - Tue, 28 Nov 2023 20:31 UTC

On 11/27/2023 10:59 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 11/27/2023 3:22 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 11/27/2023 3:54 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>> On 11/27/2023 11:24 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You can never have too many guns. Just ask General Custer who left
>>>> his Gatling guns behind for his last march.
>>>>
>>> They wouldn't have made a difference at Little Big Horn.
>>
>> Why not ?
>>
> Custer's command was split into multiple sub-units, allowing them to be
> defeated in detail. (Except one which had the good sense to bug-out
> ASAP after their first contact.) Also much of the battle was a running
> battle, the "fixed position" bit didn't occur until the very end by
> which point the US Army units were surrounded and massively
> out-numbered. Gatling guns can't fire on the move and even when set up
> (which takes time) they didn't have a rate of fire comparable to current
> automatic weapons and didn't have enough munitions to have tipped the
> balance.
>
> About the only way I can see Gatling Guns saving Custer and his command
> was by slowing them down enough that the Native Americans had simply
> left by the time the 7th Cavalry reached Little Big Horn. That was why
> Custer left them behind in the first place.

Wikipedia says that the Indians had at least 20 Henry lever action
rifles spread among their best shooters. Custer's army had old breech
loaders and single action revolvers. Not good. Outmanned and outgunned.

Lynn

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