On Tuesday, 16 March 2021 at 22:52:06 UTC+5:30, Afzal A. Khan wrote:
> On 3/16/2021 3:35 AM, Naseer wrote:
> > On Monday, 15 March 2021 at 17:30:23 UTC, Afzal A. Khan wrote:
> >> Naazireen,
> >>
> >> Just one day back, a sad incident occurred in Ghaziabad
> >> District, Uttar Pradesh.
> >>
> >> From various Indian newspaper Rreports, it seems that
> >> a Muslim boy (a youngster about 13-14 years of age) wa
> >> badly beaten up by a 23-year od man, by the name of
> >> Shringi Nandan Yadav. His friend, Shivanand, made a
> >> video of the entire incident and made it viral. The
> >> "crime" committed by the youngster was that, being
> >> thirsty, he went to a tap ('nal') within the precincts of
> >> a temple and tried to quench his thirst.
> >>
> >> The two culprits have been arrested and sent to jail.
> >>
> >>
> >> ****************
> >>
> >> I have narrated the incident very briefly. Those who
> >> may be interested in reading further details can read
> >> various Indian newspapers like The Hindu and The
> >> Hindustan Times etc.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ****************
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> An Urdu poet has penned the following verses in the above
> >> context :
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Zara socho, siasat ne kahaaN pahuNcha diya tum ko
> >> Tumhaari daastaanoN ka to 'mar'yaada' se rishta hai
> >>
> >> Pyaase ko pilaana dharm hota tha jahaaN sab ka
> >> WahaaN mandir men ja kar paani peena jurm Thehra hai
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Afzal
>
>
>
>
> > Thank you for posting a report on this very sad incident.
> >
> > I look at the headlines of news at home and abroad on the BBC internet site and it has been reported there as well.
> >
> > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-56389510
> >
> > I remember reading about the concept of "Hindu paanii" and "Muslim paanii" signs displayed at pre-partion railway stations where people belonging to the relevant faith could go and drink water. I think I may have read this in a short story of Qudrutullah Shahab's who I believe was in the civil service prior to partition and later was an important figure in the governments of Governor General Ghulam Muhammad, President Iskander Mirza and President Ayub Khan in Pakistan. I believe the story I have in mind might be "Raam Deen" but I may be mistaken. That aside, this was a despicable action on the part of the offenders especially bearing in mind that this happened in the precincts of a place of worship. I suppose one can not expect much more when the likes of Yogi Adityanath is in power as the Chief Minister!
> >
> > Allah tero naam Ishwar tero naam
> > Allah tero naam Ishwar tero naam
> > Sab ko sanmati de bhagwaan
> > Sab ko sanmati de bhagwaan
> > Allah tero naam
> >
> > Naseer
> Mukarramee,
>
> Aditional details in this respect are now available .......
>
> The name of the Muslim boy ---> Asif
> The name of his father ---> Habib
>
> Also, it has now been reported that a few police
> personnel were present at that spot when this assault
> took place. The young boy cried out to them for help.
> But they just stood there as mute spectators.
>
>
> ****************
>
>
> I believe I did write about the late Qudratullah Shahaab
> some years back. I don't remember exactly, but perhaps
> he had written a "manzoom" translation of Shelley's "Ode To
> The West Wind". You may find it in the ALUP archives.
>
>
> ****************
>
>
> You have only read about the times when vendors on Indian
> Railway Platforms would sell "hindu paani" and "Muslim paani".
> But I have lived through those times when this practice was
> prevalent.
>
> The song lines you have quoted are from the film "Hum Dono",
> released in 1961. Music was composed by the late Jaidev
> Verma and the lyrics were penned by Saahir Ludhiyanvi.
>
> The prayer is really necessary in these turbulent times.
>
>
> BTW, I had met Jaidev Verma about an year before his untimely
> death in early 1987. He was a lifelong bachelor, I believe.
>
>
>
> Afzal
Salam,
Mohtaram Afzal sahib

I was looking for an urdu translation of Shelley's poem "Ode to the West Wind", and I happened to stumble upon this group, that, somehow small but has literary gems of Urdu speakers from around the world. I'm grateful. Could you please provide me with the Urdu translation of the the said poem, in nastaleeq if possible?

On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:26:07 AM UTC-5, Ashraf An wrote:

> Salam,
> Mohtaram Afzal sahib
>
> I was looking for an urdu translation of Shelley's poem "Ode to the West Wind", and I happened to stumble upon this group, that, somehow small but has literary gems of Urdu speakers from around the world. I'm grateful. Could you please provide me with the Urdu translation of the the said poem, in nastaleeq if possible?

Ashraf sahib,

aadaab arz hai,

First of all, let me welcome you to Alup. It is wonderful that you have discovered our group, it is indeed the gold standard among Urdu poetry groups on the net. Sadly though, it is very slow currently, past its golden days. I am afraid Afzal sahib will not be able to respond to your message, how I wish he were still among us!

Maybe Naseer sahib can help with your query. Meantime, feel free to explore Alup archives, it is a goldmine of information, and some fun reading along the way!

Hope to see you again,

Regards,

_______Zoya

On Friday, 22 September 2023 at 14:18:11 UTC+1, Zoya wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:26:07 AM UTC-5, Ashraf An wrote:
>
> > Salam,
> > Mohtaram Afzal sahib
> >
> > I was looking for an urdu translation of Shelley's poem "Ode to the West Wind", and I happened to stumble upon this group, that, somehow small but has literary gems of Urdu speakers from around the world. I'm grateful. Could you please provide me with the Urdu translation of the the said poem, in nastaleeq if possible?
> Ashraf sahib,
>
> aadaab arz hai,
>
> First of all, let me welcome you to Alup. It is wonderful that you have discovered our group, it is indeed the gold standard among Urdu poetry groups on the net. Sadly though, it is very slow currently, past its golden days.. I am afraid Afzal sahib will not be able to respond to your message, how I wish he were still among us!
>
> Maybe Naseer sahib can help with your query. Meantime, feel free to explore Alup archives, it is a goldmine of information, and some fun reading along the way!
>
> Hope to see you again,
>
> Regards,
>
> _______Zoya

Zoya SaaHibah, aadaab.

I have already replied to Ashraf An SaaHib in the "abhi to main jawaa hoon: meanings please..." thread as this gentleman posted his identical message in two threads. Sadly as is often the case, after one's reply one never hears from the other party again.

Best wishes,

Naseer