On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 10:46:59 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 4:28:54 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 3:52:25 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 6:13:30 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 6:37:22 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 12:59:24 AM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:19:33 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:13:28 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 7:09:00 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:05:06 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:43:52 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 2:35:17 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:12:47 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a little early for Spring, but what the Hel...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-NzW0dbSXo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --'Ring of Gold' ~~Bathory
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "When earth and sky was first divided
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A star did fall into river deep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A star of gold into silvery water
> > > > > > > > > > > > > While I sail, by this you shall remember me
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear it, yours forever to keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To bind us beyond end of time, to thee
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I give a ring of gold"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://genius.com/Bathory-ring-of-gold-lyrics
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but will it make us a star?
> > > > > > > > > > > To the person giving it, yes.
> > > > > > > > > > Gold is a heavy metal, Ash--you can't fool us with your fancy explanations!
> > > > > > > > > << >> and I thought I was being a romantic for once! : P
> > > > > > > > Sure are, Ash, as you leave your ladies with a gold ring and set off on adventures. Ulysses did that too.
> > > > > > > nolo contendere
> > > > > > Again from Sweden...
> > > > > > --'Humanity' ~~In the Woods
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbSlY8LxveM
> > > > > Ah, mellifluous! We note that the cover image is the topiary in Ash's front yard.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are there any tenors in Death Metal?
> > > > I don't think so-- Ash really doesn't like a lot of that Death Metal-- he's more black Metal and most of the other sub-genres.
> > > We are sure that Ash gives his ladies a test on the different types of metal music before the first date is over.
> > > > The tenors would be in Power Metal (like Powerwolf) or Gothic Metal-- in Goth Metal, it's often label operatic, especially with the female fronted bands.
> > > >
> > > > How 'bout this?
> > > > IMPERIAL AGE - Anthem of Valour
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3MXYIwVuD4
> > > > not Death Metal but Power Metal
> > > Ash, that was so soothing.
> > So I'm not the only one that feels that way! Ash loves classically influenced Metal-- so epic.
> https://sonsofcrom.bandcamp.com/track/black-wings-up-high
> --'Black Wings Up High'~~Sons of Crom
> "Go, my ravens!
> Fly out above the world
> Bring me knowledge and wisdom
> On your black wings up high"
> https://www.metalkingdom.net/lyrics-song/sons-of-crom-black-wings-up-high-167129
> from Sweden & Finland
> kinda old but have reassured that they're hard at work on something new....
The ravens had their day on Tuesday night.

On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 7:36:36 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 10:46:59 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 4:28:54 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 3:52:25 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 6:13:30 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 6:37:22 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 12:59:24 AM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:19:33 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:13:28 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 7:09:00 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:05:06 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:43:52 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 2:35:17 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:12:47 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a little early for Spring, but what the Hel...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-NzW0dbSXo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --'Ring of Gold' ~~Bathory
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "When earth and sky was first divided
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A star did fall into river deep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A star of gold into silvery water
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > While I sail, by this you shall remember me
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear it, yours forever to keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To bind us beyond end of time, to thee
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I give a ring of gold"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://genius.com/Bathory-ring-of-gold-lyrics
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but will it make us a star?
> > > > > > > > > > > > To the person giving it, yes.
> > > > > > > > > > > Gold is a heavy metal, Ash--you can't fool us with your fancy explanations!
> > > > > > > > > > << >> and I thought I was being a romantic for once! : P
> > > > > > > > > Sure are, Ash, as you leave your ladies with a gold ring and set off on adventures. Ulysses did that too.
> > > > > > > > nolo contendere
> > > > > > > Again from Sweden...
> > > > > > > --'Humanity' ~~In the Woods
> > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbSlY8LxveM
> > > > > > Ah, mellifluous! We note that the cover image is the topiary in Ash's front yard.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are there any tenors in Death Metal?
> > > > > I don't think so-- Ash really doesn't like a lot of that Death Metal-- he's more black Metal and most of the other sub-genres.
> > > > We are sure that Ash gives his ladies a test on the different types of metal music before the first date is over.
> > > > > The tenors would be in Power Metal (like Powerwolf) or Gothic Metal-- in Goth Metal, it's often label operatic, especially with the female fronted bands.
> > > > >
> > > > > How 'bout this?
> > > > > IMPERIAL AGE - Anthem of Valour
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3MXYIwVuD4
> > > > > not Death Metal but Power Metal
> > > > Ash, that was so soothing.
> > > So I'm not the only one that feels that way! Ash loves classically influenced Metal-- so epic.
> > https://sonsofcrom.bandcamp.com/track/black-wings-up-high
> > --'Black Wings Up High'~~Sons of Crom
> > "Go, my ravens!
> > Fly out above the world
> > Bring me knowledge and wisdom
> > On your black wings up high"
> > https://www.metalkingdom.net/lyrics-song/sons-of-crom-black-wings-up-high-167129
> > from Sweden & Finland
> > kinda old but have reassured that they're hard at work on something new....
> The ravens had their day on Tuesday night.

Of course, Ash has a response for that. But first, more Cohen alternative music!

"Legends fail
And houses fall
In great shame
In elliptical ruins"
--'So Falls The World' ~~Ulver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nOCpknuYVc
Yes, they're a metal band from Norway- Ulver is wolves in Norwegian.

On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 10:32:41 AM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 7:36:36 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 10:46:59 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 4:28:54 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 3:52:25 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 6:13:30 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 6:37:22 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 12:59:24 AM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:19:33 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:13:28 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 7:09:00 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:05:06 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:43:52 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 2:35:17 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:12:47 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a little early for Spring, but what the Hel....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-NzW0dbSXo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --'Ring of Gold' ~~Bathory
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "When earth and sky was first divided
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A star did fall into river deep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A star of gold into silvery water
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While I sail, by this you shall remember me
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear it, yours forever to keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To bind us beyond end of time, to thee
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I give a ring of gold"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://genius.com/Bathory-ring-of-gold-lyrics
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but will it make us a star?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To the person giving it, yes.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gold is a heavy metal, Ash--you can't fool us with your fancy explanations!
> > > > > > > > > > > << >> and I thought I was being a romantic for once! : P
> > > > > > > > > > Sure are, Ash, as you leave your ladies with a gold ring and set off on adventures. Ulysses did that too.
> > > > > > > > > nolo contendere
> > > > > > > > Again from Sweden...
> > > > > > > > --'Humanity' ~~In the Woods
> > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbSlY8LxveM
> > > > > > > Ah, mellifluous! We note that the cover image is the topiary in Ash's front yard.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are there any tenors in Death Metal?
> > > > > > I don't think so-- Ash really doesn't like a lot of that Death Metal-- he's more black Metal and most of the other sub-genres.
> > > > > We are sure that Ash gives his ladies a test on the different types of metal music before the first date is over.
> > > > > > The tenors would be in Power Metal (like Powerwolf) or Gothic Metal-- in Goth Metal, it's often label operatic, especially with the female fronted bands.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How 'bout this?
> > > > > > IMPERIAL AGE - Anthem of Valour
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3MXYIwVuD4
> > > > > > not Death Metal but Power Metal
> > > > > Ash, that was so soothing.
> > > > So I'm not the only one that feels that way! Ash loves classically influenced Metal-- so epic.
> > > https://sonsofcrom.bandcamp.com/track/black-wings-up-high
> > > --'Black Wings Up High'~~Sons of Crom
> > > "Go, my ravens!
> > > Fly out above the world
> > > Bring me knowledge and wisdom
> > > On your black wings up high"
> > > https://www.metalkingdom.net/lyrics-song/sons-of-crom-black-wings-up-high-167129
> > > from Sweden & Finland
> > > kinda old but have reassured that they're hard at work on something new...
> > The ravens had their day on Tuesday night.
> Of course, Ash has a response for that. But first, more Cohen alternative music!
>
> "Legends fail
> And houses fall
> In great shame
> In elliptical ruins"
> --'So Falls The World' ~~Ulver
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nOCpknuYVc
> Yes, they're a metal band from Norway- Ulver is wolves in Norwegian.

Speaking of ravens... and moons...
"We now lay under the moonlit sky
In the shadows of the past,
And as we become one the stars
Kneel down, whispering poetry
Of this withering moment"
--'Call of the Raven Moon' ~Saturnus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lPMqpoavzs
https://genius.com/Saturnus-call-of-the-raven-moon-lyrics
Yes, it's metal, this is what they normally sound like:
--'Wind Torn'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGpmxFj0yd4
Ash style recital nice n normal mixed with growls for emphasis and heavy metal thunder!

Must run, have a presentation to prepare-- Ash does that also! But I'll try to strafe by in between appearance tonight...

On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 10:02:41 PM UTC+6:30, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 7:36:36 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 10:46:59 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 4:28:54 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 3:52:25 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 6:13:30 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 6:37:22 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 12:59:24 AM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:19:33 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:13:28 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 7:09:00 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:05:06 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:43:52 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 2:35:17 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:12:47 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a little early for Spring, but what the Hel....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-NzW0dbSXo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --'Ring of Gold' ~~Bathory
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "When earth and sky was first divided
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A star did fall into river deep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A star of gold into silvery water
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While I sail, by this you shall remember me
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear it, yours forever to keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To bind us beyond end of time, to thee
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I give a ring of gold"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://genius.com/Bathory-ring-of-gold-lyrics
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but will it make us a star?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To the person giving it, yes.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gold is a heavy metal, Ash--you can't fool us with your fancy explanations!
> > > > > > > > > > > << >> and I thought I was being a romantic for once! : P
> > > > > > > > > > Sure are, Ash, as you leave your ladies with a gold ring and set off on adventures. Ulysses did that too.
> > > > > > > > > nolo contendere
> > > > > > > > Again from Sweden...
> > > > > > > > --'Humanity' ~~In the Woods
> > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbSlY8LxveM
> > > > > > > Ah, mellifluous! We note that the cover image is the topiary in Ash's front yard.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are there any tenors in Death Metal?
> > > > > > I don't think so-- Ash really doesn't like a lot of that Death Metal-- he's more black Metal and most of the other sub-genres.
> > > > > We are sure that Ash gives his ladies a test on the different types of metal music before the first date is over.
> > > > > > The tenors would be in Power Metal (like Powerwolf) or Gothic Metal-- in Goth Metal, it's often label operatic, especially with the female fronted bands.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How 'bout this?
> > > > > > IMPERIAL AGE - Anthem of Valour
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3MXYIwVuD4
> > > > > > not Death Metal but Power Metal
> > > > > Ash, that was so soothing.
> > > > So I'm not the only one that feels that way! Ash loves classically influenced Metal-- so epic.
> > > https://sonsofcrom.bandcamp.com/track/black-wings-up-high
> > > --'Black Wings Up High'~~Sons of Crom
> > > "Go, my ravens!
> > > Fly out above the world
> > > Bring me knowledge and wisdom
> > > On your black wings up high"
> > > https://www.metalkingdom.net/lyrics-song/sons-of-crom-black-wings-up-high-167129
> > > from Sweden & Finland
> > > kinda old but have reassured that they're hard at work on something new...
> > The ravens had their day on Tuesday night.
> Of course, Ash has a response for that. But first, more Cohen alternative music!
>
> "Legends fail
> And houses fall
> In great shame
> In elliptical ruins"
> --'So Falls The World' ~~Ulver
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nOCpknuYVc
> Yes, they're a metal band from Norway- Ulver is wolves in Norwegian.

That's a phonetic variation on Lupus, Lobo, Loup/Louve, and Wulf.

Epic Metal!

"On roads of ash through fields of sorrow
Through years of joy and times of grief
The pilgrim’s heart is guided by longing
Ever wandering towards his home
Walls rise cold and speechless in the plains
As the winds of eternity rage
Louder, in the distance, drums are calling
And the ghosts of my ancestors rise
Where I must tread – no one can follow
Out in the plains it is dark and cold
The narrow path – and no one can join me
No golden tombs – our kingdom is not of this world"
-- "He Who Walks Behind The Years (The Place Of Sounding Drums)" ~~
Atlantean Kodex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIWMCnU-W3o
https://genius.com/Atlantean-kodex-he-who-walks-behind-the-years-the-place-of-sounding-drums-lyrics

I had posted one of their best previously, ,
"Twelve Stars and an Azure Gown (An Anthem for Europa)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5X91UUv1o
about the EU in a pagan view (the goddess Europa) and Winston Churchill oratory to boot.
and other cool songs such as "Spell Of The Western Sea (Among Wolves And Thieves),"
"A Secret Byzantium (Numbered As Sand And The Stars)," "The Course Of Empire (All Thrones in Earth And Heaven)," "The Alpha and the Occident (Rising from Atlantean Tombs)," "Chariots (Descending from Zagros)"

On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:57:09 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> Epic Metal!
>
> "On roads of ash through fields of sorrow
> Through years of joy and times of grief
> The pilgrim’s heart is guided by longing
> Ever wandering towards his home
> Walls rise cold and speechless in the plains
> As the winds of eternity rage
> Louder, in the distance, drums are calling
> And the ghosts of my ancestors rise
> Where I must tread – no one can follow
> Out in the plains it is dark and cold
> The narrow path – and no one can join me
> No golden tombs – our kingdom is not of this world"
> -- "He Who Walks Behind The Years (The Place Of Sounding Drums)" ~~
> Atlantean Kodex
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIWMCnU-W3o
> https://genius.com/Atlantean-kodex-he-who-walks-behind-the-years-the-place-of-sounding-drums-lyrics
>
> I had posted one of their best previously, ,
> "Twelve Stars and an Azure Gown (An Anthem for Europa)"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5X91UUv1o
> about the EU in a pagan view (the goddess Europa) and Winston Churchill oratory to boot.
> and other cool songs such as "Spell Of The Western Sea (Among Wolves And Thieves),"
> "A Secret Byzantium (Numbered As Sand And The Stars)," "The Course Of Empire (All Thrones in Earth And Heaven)," "The Alpha and the Occident (Rising from Atlantean Tombs)," "Chariots (Descending from Zagros)"

And Ash brings you something completely different-- an acoustic piece from the Japanese melancholic Gothic metal band, Eleanor-- you would never have guessed it was from a metal band. (found it while searching for new obscure material for a friend's monthly playlist)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swpvcV9NUgg
eleanor / Mellow 1 -Sleeping Water
metal version for comparison
Sleeping Water · Eleanor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2XJThsfE0

I'm leading up to something else-- wait to you see what comes next...

On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 11:52:51 PM UTC+1, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:57:09 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > Epic Metal!
> >
> > "On roads of ash through fields of sorrow
> > Through years of joy and times of grief
> > The pilgrim’s heart is guided by longing
> > Ever wandering towards his home
> > Walls rise cold and speechless in the plains
> > As the winds of eternity rage
> > Louder, in the distance, drums are calling
> > And the ghosts of my ancestors rise
> > Where I must tread – no one can follow
> > Out in the plains it is dark and cold
> > The narrow path – and no one can join me
> > No golden tombs – our kingdom is not of this world"
> > -- "He Who Walks Behind The Years (The Place Of Sounding Drums)" ~~
> > Atlantean Kodex
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIWMCnU-W3o
> > https://genius.com/Atlantean-kodex-he-who-walks-behind-the-years-the-place-of-sounding-drums-lyrics
> >
> > I had posted one of their best previously, ,
> > "Twelve Stars and an Azure Gown (An Anthem for Europa)"
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5X91UUv1o
> > about the EU in a pagan view (the goddess Europa) and Winston Churchill oratory to boot.
> > and other cool songs such as "Spell Of The Western Sea (Among Wolves And Thieves),"
> > "A Secret Byzantium (Numbered As Sand And The Stars)," "The Course Of Empire (All Thrones in Earth And Heaven)," "The Alpha and the Occident (Rising from Atlantean Tombs)," "Chariots (Descending from Zagros)"
> And Ash brings you something completely different-- an acoustic piece from the Japanese melancholic Gothic metal band, Eleanor-- you would never have guessed it was from a metal band. (found it while searching for new obscure material for a friend's monthly playlist)

Ash, you need a few more descriptive adjectives for the band. Is there a Japanese happy bodice-ripper light heavyweight metal band? What are the lyrics?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swpvcV9NUgg
> eleanor / Mellow 1 -Sleeping Water
> metal version for comparison
> Sleeping Water · Eleanor
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2XJThsfE0

We did like their music, though we could not understand the lyrics.
>
> I'm leading up to something else-- wait to you see what comes next...
Is this a Jeopardy answer?

On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 6:34:26 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 11:52:51 PM UTC+1, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:57:09 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > Epic Metal!
> > >
> > > "On roads of ash through fields of sorrow
> > > Through years of joy and times of grief
> > > The pilgrim’s heart is guided by longing
> > > Ever wandering towards his home
> > > Walls rise cold and speechless in the plains
> > > As the winds of eternity rage
> > > Louder, in the distance, drums are calling
> > > And the ghosts of my ancestors rise
> > > Where I must tread – no one can follow
> > > Out in the plains it is dark and cold
> > > The narrow path – and no one can join me
> > > No golden tombs – our kingdom is not of this world"
> > > -- "He Who Walks Behind The Years (The Place Of Sounding Drums)" ~~
> > > Atlantean Kodex
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIWMCnU-W3o
> > > https://genius.com/Atlantean-kodex-he-who-walks-behind-the-years-the-place-of-sounding-drums-lyrics
> > >
> > > I had posted one of their best previously, ,
> > > "Twelve Stars and an Azure Gown (An Anthem for Europa)"
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5X91UUv1o
> > > about the EU in a pagan view (the goddess Europa) and Winston Churchill oratory to boot.
> > > and other cool songs such as "Spell Of The Western Sea (Among Wolves And Thieves),"
> > > "A Secret Byzantium (Numbered As Sand And The Stars)," "The Course Of Empire (All Thrones in Earth And Heaven)," "The Alpha and the Occident (Rising from Atlantean Tombs)," "Chariots (Descending from Zagros)"
> > And Ash brings you something completely different-- an acoustic piece from the Japanese melancholic Gothic metal band, Eleanor-- you would never have guessed it was from a metal band. (found it while searching for new obscure material for a friend's monthly playlist)
> Ash, you need a few more descriptive adjectives for the band. Is there a Japanese happy bodice-ripper light heavyweight metal band? What are the lyrics?
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swpvcV9NUgg
> > eleanor / Mellow 1 -Sleeping Water
> > metal version for comparison
> > Sleeping Water · Eleanor
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2XJThsfE0
> We did like their music, though we could not understand the lyrics.

Understood, my friend said the same. Me, I'm so used to listening to music in foreign languages that it doesn't matter if I understand what they're saying-- I'm all about the voice and it's tone.

> >
> > I'm leading up to something else-- wait to you see what comes next...
> Is this a Jeopardy answer?

Nah. 'cause you'll never guess, no possible way to have an inkling what I have in store for you- this may be something that you have ever seen...

On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 2:04:02 AM UTC+2, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 6:34:26 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 11:52:51 PM UTC+1, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:57:09 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > Epic Metal!
> > > >
> > > > "On roads of ash through fields of sorrow
> > > > Through years of joy and times of grief
> > > > The pilgrim’s heart is guided by longing
> > > > Ever wandering towards his home
> > > > Walls rise cold and speechless in the plains
> > > > As the winds of eternity rage
> > > > Louder, in the distance, drums are calling
> > > > And the ghosts of my ancestors rise
> > > > Where I must tread – no one can follow
> > > > Out in the plains it is dark and cold
> > > > The narrow path – and no one can join me
> > > > No golden tombs – our kingdom is not of this world"
> > > > -- "He Who Walks Behind The Years (The Place Of Sounding Drums)" ~~
> > > > Atlantean Kodex
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIWMCnU-W3o
> > > > https://genius.com/Atlantean-kodex-he-who-walks-behind-the-years-the-place-of-sounding-drums-lyrics
> > > >
> > > > I had posted one of their best previously, ,
> > > > "Twelve Stars and an Azure Gown (An Anthem for Europa)"
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5X91UUv1o
> > > > about the EU in a pagan view (the goddess Europa) and Winston Churchill oratory to boot.
> > > > and other cool songs such as "Spell Of The Western Sea (Among Wolves And Thieves),"
> > > > "A Secret Byzantium (Numbered As Sand And The Stars)," "The Course Of Empire (All Thrones in Earth And Heaven)," "The Alpha and the Occident (Rising from Atlantean Tombs)," "Chariots (Descending from Zagros)"
> > > And Ash brings you something completely different-- an acoustic piece from the Japanese melancholic Gothic metal band, Eleanor-- you would never have guessed it was from a metal band. (found it while searching for new obscure material for a friend's monthly playlist)
> > Ash, you need a few more descriptive adjectives for the band. Is there a Japanese happy bodice-ripper light heavyweight metal band? What are the lyrics?
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swpvcV9NUgg
> > > eleanor / Mellow 1 -Sleeping Water
> > > metal version for comparison
> > > Sleeping Water · Eleanor
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2XJThsfE0
> > We did like their music, though we could not understand the lyrics.
> Understood, my friend said the same. Me, I'm so used to listening to music in foreign languages that it doesn't matter if I understand what they're saying-- I'm all about the voice and it's tone.

It probably helps too, not to look at the video but just listen to the sound.

> > >
> > > I'm leading up to something else-- wait to you see what comes next...
> > Is this a Jeopardy answer?
> Nah. 'cause you'll never guess, no possible way to have an inkling what I have in store for you- this may be something that you have ever seen...

We have already seen the Dockery Nudes. What could be worse?

On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 9:09:35 AM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 2:04:02 AM UTC+2, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 6:34:26 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 11:52:51 PM UTC+1, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:57:09 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > Epic Metal!
> > > > >
> > > > > "On roads of ash through fields of sorrow
> > > > > Through years of joy and times of grief
> > > > > The pilgrim’s heart is guided by longing
> > > > > Ever wandering towards his home
> > > > > Walls rise cold and speechless in the plains
> > > > > As the winds of eternity rage
> > > > > Louder, in the distance, drums are calling
> > > > > And the ghosts of my ancestors rise
> > > > > Where I must tread – no one can follow
> > > > > Out in the plains it is dark and cold
> > > > > The narrow path – and no one can join me
> > > > > No golden tombs – our kingdom is not of this world"
> > > > > -- "He Who Walks Behind The Years (The Place Of Sounding Drums)" ~~
> > > > > Atlantean Kodex
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIWMCnU-W3o
> > > > > https://genius.com/Atlantean-kodex-he-who-walks-behind-the-years-the-place-of-sounding-drums-lyrics
> > > > >
> > > > > I had posted one of their best previously, ,
> > > > > "Twelve Stars and an Azure Gown (An Anthem for Europa)"
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5X91UUv1o
> > > > > about the EU in a pagan view (the goddess Europa) and Winston Churchill oratory to boot.
> > > > > and other cool songs such as "Spell Of The Western Sea (Among Wolves And Thieves),"
> > > > > "A Secret Byzantium (Numbered As Sand And The Stars)," "The Course Of Empire (All Thrones in Earth And Heaven)," "The Alpha and the Occident (Rising from Atlantean Tombs)," "Chariots (Descending from Zagros)"
> > > > And Ash brings you something completely different-- an acoustic piece from the Japanese melancholic Gothic metal band, Eleanor-- you would never have guessed it was from a metal band. (found it while searching for new obscure material for a friend's monthly playlist)
> > > Ash, you need a few more descriptive adjectives for the band. Is there a Japanese happy bodice-ripper light heavyweight metal band? What are the lyrics?
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swpvcV9NUgg
> > > > eleanor / Mellow 1 -Sleeping Water
> > > > metal version for comparison
> > > > Sleeping Water · Eleanor
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2XJThsfE0
> > > We did like their music, though we could not understand the lyrics.
> > Understood, my friend said the same. Me, I'm so used to listening to music in foreign languages that it doesn't matter if I understand what they're saying-- I'm all about the voice and it's tone.
> It probably helps too, not to look at the video but just listen to the sound.
> > > >
> > > > I'm leading up to something else-- wait to you see what comes next....
> > > Is this a Jeopardy answer?
> > Nah. 'cause you'll never guess, no possible way to have an inkling what I have in store for you- this may be something that you have ever seen...
> We have already seen the Dockery Nudes. What could be worse?

You have a point. This I have in store for you will be visually stunning. I'm having someone help select the best example of this metal genre.

On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 12:09:11 AM UTC+2, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 9:09:35 AM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 2:04:02 AM UTC+2, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 6:34:26 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 11:52:51 PM UTC+1, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:57:09 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > Epic Metal!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "On roads of ash through fields of sorrow
> > > > > > Through years of joy and times of grief
> > > > > > The pilgrim’s heart is guided by longing
> > > > > > Ever wandering towards his home
> > > > > > Walls rise cold and speechless in the plains
> > > > > > As the winds of eternity rage
> > > > > > Louder, in the distance, drums are calling
> > > > > > And the ghosts of my ancestors rise
> > > > > > Where I must tread – no one can follow
> > > > > > Out in the plains it is dark and cold
> > > > > > The narrow path – and no one can join me
> > > > > > No golden tombs – our kingdom is not of this world"
> > > > > > -- "He Who Walks Behind The Years (The Place Of Sounding Drums)" ~~
> > > > > > Atlantean Kodex
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIWMCnU-W3o
> > > > > > https://genius.com/Atlantean-kodex-he-who-walks-behind-the-years-the-place-of-sounding-drums-lyrics
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had posted one of their best previously, ,
> > > > > > "Twelve Stars and an Azure Gown (An Anthem for Europa)"
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5X91UUv1o
> > > > > > about the EU in a pagan view (the goddess Europa) and Winston Churchill oratory to boot.
> > > > > > and other cool songs such as "Spell Of The Western Sea (Among Wolves And Thieves),"
> > > > > > "A Secret Byzantium (Numbered As Sand And The Stars)," "The Course Of Empire (All Thrones in Earth And Heaven)," "The Alpha and the Occident (Rising from Atlantean Tombs)," "Chariots (Descending from Zagros)"
> > > > > And Ash brings you something completely different-- an acoustic piece from the Japanese melancholic Gothic metal band, Eleanor-- you would never have guessed it was from a metal band. (found it while searching for new obscure material for a friend's monthly playlist)
> > > > Ash, you need a few more descriptive adjectives for the band. Is there a Japanese happy bodice-ripper light heavyweight metal band? What are the lyrics?
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swpvcV9NUgg
> > > > > eleanor / Mellow 1 -Sleeping Water
> > > > > metal version for comparison
> > > > > Sleeping Water · Eleanor
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2XJThsfE0
> > > > We did like their music, though we could not understand the lyrics.
> > > Understood, my friend said the same. Me, I'm so used to listening to music in foreign languages that it doesn't matter if I understand what they're saying-- I'm all about the voice and it's tone.
> > It probably helps too, not to look at the video but just listen to the sound.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm leading up to something else-- wait to you see what comes next...
> > > > Is this a Jeopardy answer?
> > > Nah. 'cause you'll never guess, no possible way to have an inkling what I have in store for you- this may be something that you have ever seen....
> > We have already seen the Dockery Nudes. What could be worse?
> You have a point.
Nothing would be worse than that.

>This I have in store for you will be visually stunning. I'm having someone help select the best example of this metal genre.

Great, we haven't been visually stunned lately. Is it made of gold-plated copper?

On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 7:11:12 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 12:09:11 AM UTC+2, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 9:09:35 AM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 2:04:02 AM UTC+2, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 6:34:26 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 11:52:51 PM UTC+1, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:57:09 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > Epic Metal!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "On roads of ash through fields of sorrow
> > > > > > > Through years of joy and times of grief
> > > > > > > The pilgrim’s heart is guided by longing
> > > > > > > Ever wandering towards his home
> > > > > > > Walls rise cold and speechless in the plains
> > > > > > > As the winds of eternity rage
> > > > > > > Louder, in the distance, drums are calling
> > > > > > > And the ghosts of my ancestors rise
> > > > > > > Where I must tread – no one can follow
> > > > > > > Out in the plains it is dark and cold
> > > > > > > The narrow path – and no one can join me
> > > > > > > No golden tombs – our kingdom is not of this world"
> > > > > > > -- "He Who Walks Behind The Years (The Place Of Sounding Drums)" ~~
> > > > > > > Atlantean Kodex
> > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIWMCnU-W3o
> > > > > > > https://genius.com/Atlantean-kodex-he-who-walks-behind-the-years-the-place-of-sounding-drums-lyrics
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I had posted one of their best previously, ,
> > > > > > > "Twelve Stars and an Azure Gown (An Anthem for Europa)"
> > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5X91UUv1o
> > > > > > > about the EU in a pagan view (the goddess Europa) and Winston Churchill oratory to boot.
> > > > > > > and other cool songs such as "Spell Of The Western Sea (Among Wolves And Thieves),"
> > > > > > > "A Secret Byzantium (Numbered As Sand And The Stars)," "The Course Of Empire (All Thrones in Earth And Heaven)," "The Alpha and the Occident (Rising from Atlantean Tombs)," "Chariots (Descending from Zagros)"
> > > > > > And Ash brings you something completely different-- an acoustic piece from the Japanese melancholic Gothic metal band, Eleanor-- you would never have guessed it was from a metal band. (found it while searching for new obscure material for a friend's monthly playlist)
> > > > > Ash, you need a few more descriptive adjectives for the band. Is there a Japanese happy bodice-ripper light heavyweight metal band? What are the lyrics?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swpvcV9NUgg
> > > > > > eleanor / Mellow 1 -Sleeping Water
> > > > > > metal version for comparison
> > > > > > Sleeping Water · Eleanor
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2XJThsfE0
> > > > > We did like their music, though we could not understand the lyrics.
> > > > Understood, my friend said the same. Me, I'm so used to listening to music in foreign languages that it doesn't matter if I understand what they're saying-- I'm all about the voice and it's tone.
> > > It probably helps too, not to look at the video but just listen to the sound.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm leading up to something else-- wait to you see what comes next...
> > > > > Is this a Jeopardy answer?
> > > > Nah. 'cause you'll never guess, no possible way to have an inkling what I have in store for you- this may be something that you have ever seen....
> > > We have already seen the Dockery Nudes. What could be worse?
> > You have a point.
> Nothing would be worse than that.
> >This I have in store for you will be visually stunning. I'm having someone help select the best example of this metal genre.
> Great, we haven't been visually stunned lately. Is it made of gold-plated copper?

I present the oddity known as VISUAL KEI!!!
An genre unique to Japanese music-- where they take music to its theatrical limits

Versailles "VOGUE"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu8m1Mu0hxU
# They don't have the tall powdered wigs that they usually wear, in this video, but this is the first example of Visual Kei that I seen-- the speed of power metal being done in full costume, which made me do a double take at this phenomenon. They take this very serious, it's not just a gag.

D - 47 Todofuken Tour Final
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoxSovKnV_8
# Tailcoats! Trains! Flounces and frills!

Malice Mizer - Gekka no Yasoukyoku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaKraBkJLvI
# Can you believe it? a bonnet! These guys usually have a much harder sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvExQZTtL-o

Visual Kei, inspired by glam rock/metal:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_kei

On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 12:48:16 PM UTC-8, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 7:11:12 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 12:09:11 AM UTC+2, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 9:09:35 AM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 2:04:02 AM UTC+2, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 6:34:26 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 11:52:51 PM UTC+1, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:57:09 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > Epic Metal!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "On roads of ash through fields of sorrow
> > > > > > > > Through years of joy and times of grief
> > > > > > > > The pilgrim’s heart is guided by longing
> > > > > > > > Ever wandering towards his home
> > > > > > > > Walls rise cold and speechless in the plains
> > > > > > > > As the winds of eternity rage
> > > > > > > > Louder, in the distance, drums are calling
> > > > > > > > And the ghosts of my ancestors rise
> > > > > > > > Where I must tread – no one can follow
> > > > > > > > Out in the plains it is dark and cold
> > > > > > > > The narrow path – and no one can join me
> > > > > > > > No golden tombs – our kingdom is not of this world"
> > > > > > > > -- "He Who Walks Behind The Years (The Place Of Sounding Drums)" ~~
> > > > > > > > Atlantean Kodex
> > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIWMCnU-W3o
> > > > > > > > https://genius.com/Atlantean-kodex-he-who-walks-behind-the-years-the-place-of-sounding-drums-lyrics
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I had posted one of their best previously, ,
> > > > > > > > "Twelve Stars and an Azure Gown (An Anthem for Europa)"
> > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5X91UUv1o
> > > > > > > > about the EU in a pagan view (the goddess Europa) and Winston Churchill oratory to boot.
> > > > > > > > and other cool songs such as "Spell Of The Western Sea (Among Wolves And Thieves),"
> > > > > > > > "A Secret Byzantium (Numbered As Sand And The Stars)," "The Course Of Empire (All Thrones in Earth And Heaven)," "The Alpha and the Occident (Rising from Atlantean Tombs)," "Chariots (Descending from Zagros)"
> > > > > > > And Ash brings you something completely different-- an acoustic piece from the Japanese melancholic Gothic metal band, Eleanor-- you would never have guessed it was from a metal band. (found it while searching for new obscure material for a friend's monthly playlist)
> > > > > > Ash, you need a few more descriptive adjectives for the band. Is there a Japanese happy bodice-ripper light heavyweight metal band? What are the lyrics?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swpvcV9NUgg
> > > > > > > eleanor / Mellow 1 -Sleeping Water
> > > > > > > metal version for comparison
> > > > > > > Sleeping Water · Eleanor
> > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2XJThsfE0
> > > > > > We did like their music, though we could not understand the lyrics.
> > > > > Understood, my friend said the same. Me, I'm so used to listening to music in foreign languages that it doesn't matter if I understand what they're saying-- I'm all about the voice and it's tone.
> > > > It probably helps too, not to look at the video but just listen to the sound.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm leading up to something else-- wait to you see what comes next...
> > > > > > Is this a Jeopardy answer?
> > > > > Nah. 'cause you'll never guess, no possible way to have an inkling what I have in store for you- this may be something that you have ever seen...
> > > > We have already seen the Dockery Nudes. What could be worse?
> > > You have a point.
> > Nothing would be worse than that.
> > >This I have in store for you will be visually stunning. I'm having someone help select the best example of this metal genre.
> > Great, we haven't been visually stunned lately. Is it made of gold-plated copper?
> I present the oddity known as VISUAL KEI!!!
> An genre unique to Japanese music-- where they take music to its theatrical limits
>
> Versailles "VOGUE"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu8m1Mu0hxU
> # They don't have the tall powdered wigs that they usually wear, in this video, but this is the first example of Visual Kei that I seen-- the speed of power metal being done in full costume, which made me do a double take at this phenomenon. They take this very serious, it's not just a gag.

We hadn't heard of it before, but it is...different. Wouldn't they get pretty hot under those costumes, what with the lights and audience?
>
> D - 47 Todofuken Tour Final
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoxSovKnV_8
> # Tailcoats! Trains! Flounces and frills!

Love the word "Todofuken!"
>
> Malice Mizer - Gekka no Yasoukyoku
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaKraBkJLvI
> # Can you believe it? a bonnet! These guys usually have a much harder sound
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvExQZTtL-o
Yes, they do. Again, very hot costumes, but it is certainly a theatrical production.
>
> Visual Kei, inspired by glam rock/metal:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_kei
We didn't understand any of the lyrics and wouldn't be able to sing along with them.

On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 4:22:50 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 12:48:16 PM UTC-8, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 7:11:12 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 12:09:11 AM UTC+2, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 9:09:35 AM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 2:04:02 AM UTC+2, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 6:34:26 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 11:52:51 PM UTC+1, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:57:09 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Epic Metal!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "On roads of ash through fields of sorrow
> > > > > > > > > Through years of joy and times of grief
> > > > > > > > > The pilgrim’s heart is guided by longing
> > > > > > > > > Ever wandering towards his home
> > > > > > > > > Walls rise cold and speechless in the plains
> > > > > > > > > As the winds of eternity rage
> > > > > > > > > Louder, in the distance, drums are calling
> > > > > > > > > And the ghosts of my ancestors rise
> > > > > > > > > Where I must tread – no one can follow
> > > > > > > > > Out in the plains it is dark and cold
> > > > > > > > > The narrow path – and no one can join me
> > > > > > > > > No golden tombs – our kingdom is not of this world"
> > > > > > > > > -- "He Who Walks Behind The Years (The Place Of Sounding Drums)" ~~
> > > > > > > > > Atlantean Kodex
> > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIWMCnU-W3o
> > > > > > > > > https://genius.com/Atlantean-kodex-he-who-walks-behind-the-years-the-place-of-sounding-drums-lyrics
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I had posted one of their best previously, ,
> > > > > > > > > "Twelve Stars and an Azure Gown (An Anthem for Europa)"
> > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5X91UUv1o
> > > > > > > > > about the EU in a pagan view (the goddess Europa) and Winston Churchill oratory to boot.
> > > > > > > > > and other cool songs such as "Spell Of The Western Sea (Among Wolves And Thieves),"
> > > > > > > > > "A Secret Byzantium (Numbered As Sand And The Stars)," "The Course Of Empire (All Thrones in Earth And Heaven)," "The Alpha and the Occident (Rising from Atlantean Tombs)," "Chariots (Descending from Zagros)"
> > > > > > > > And Ash brings you something completely different-- an acoustic piece from the Japanese melancholic Gothic metal band, Eleanor-- you would never have guessed it was from a metal band. (found it while searching for new obscure material for a friend's monthly playlist)
> > > > > > > Ash, you need a few more descriptive adjectives for the band. Is there a Japanese happy bodice-ripper light heavyweight metal band? What are the lyrics?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swpvcV9NUgg
> > > > > > > > eleanor / Mellow 1 -Sleeping Water
> > > > > > > > metal version for comparison
> > > > > > > > Sleeping Water · Eleanor
> > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2XJThsfE0
> > > > > > > We did like their music, though we could not understand the lyrics.
> > > > > > Understood, my friend said the same. Me, I'm so used to listening to music in foreign languages that it doesn't matter if I understand what they're saying-- I'm all about the voice and it's tone.
> > > > > It probably helps too, not to look at the video but just listen to the sound.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm leading up to something else-- wait to you see what comes next...
> > > > > > > Is this a Jeopardy answer?
> > > > > > Nah. 'cause you'll never guess, no possible way to have an inkling what I have in store for you- this may be something that you have ever seen...
> > > > > We have already seen the Dockery Nudes. What could be worse?
> > > > You have a point.
> > > Nothing would be worse than that.
> > > >This I have in store for you will be visually stunning. I'm having someone help select the best example of this metal genre.
> > > Great, we haven't been visually stunned lately. Is it made of gold-plated copper?
> > I present the oddity known as VISUAL KEI!!!
> > An genre unique to Japanese music-- where they take music to its theatrical limits
> >
> > Versailles "VOGUE"
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu8m1Mu0hxU
> > # They don't have the tall powdered wigs that they usually wear, in this video, but this is the first example of Visual Kei that I seen-- the speed of power metal being done in full costume, which made me do a double take at this phenomenon. They take this very serious, it's not just a gag.
> We hadn't heard of it before, but it is...different. Wouldn't they get pretty hot under those costumes, what with the lights and audience?

Hell, yeah, I sweat just looking at it... I can imagine how hot it is after wearing military gear.
Think that's hot, this is the European version of it:
Ghost - Con Clavi Con Dio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXdy-AvMLGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBDxAguEtK4

that mask of Papa is actually prosthetics.

> >
> > D - 47 Todofuken Tour Final
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoxSovKnV_8
> > # Tailcoats! Trains! Flounces and frills!
> Love the word "Todofuken!"

Looks better than what it means-- kind of a let down, it's actual meaning.

> >
> > Malice Mizer - Gekka no Yasoukyoku
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaKraBkJLvI
> > # Can you believe it? a bonnet! These guys usually have a much harder sound
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvExQZTtL-o
> Yes, they do. Again, very hot costumes, but it is certainly a theatrical production.
> >
> > Visual Kei, inspired by glam rock/metal:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_kei
> We didn't understand any of the lyrics and wouldn't be able to sing along with them.

Understood, I just go with the flow of the lyrics.

One of the best voices in metal in my opinion. No, not the growls-- that's Shagrath, not me; but of Roy Khan of Norway (Norwegian/Thai) with Kamelot from Florida with stunning backing vocal from Mari Youngblood and Simone Simons from Holland.
This is part 1, Anon has their three picks for this singer and band...

"On the edge of paradise
Poison burning In my veins
Unavailing compromise
My dreams remain the same

Soothing but yet so violent
In this world within the other world
Moonlight, in visions, heaven sent
I see demon eyes and wings unfurled"
--'On the Edge of Paradise' ~~Kamelot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wogej69je48

"Come wind, come snow, come winterland
I have resigned myself to death
Come will to show the hidden hand
So I can draw my final breath
You could take me higher
So you said, I trusted you
I may be a liar
But betrayal lies on you"
--'Black Halo' ~~Kamelot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkc9fd7u56g

Opening (Mephisto, demonic voice by Shagrath)
"Aspirat primo fortuna labori
Me duce tutus eris
Vox populi vox dei
Ad maiorem dei gloriam
Ad infinitum
("Fortune smiles upon our first effort
Under my leadership, you will be safe
The voice of the people is the voice of God
For the greater glory of God
To infinity")

(Roy Khan)
"You know just who I am
Don't be so distant
'Cause when you're lost, I am solely there
To share your grief"

"Chase the heathen call
We belong, you and I
Unison in all you deny"

"I am the thorn in your side that seeks accomplishment
Reminding the mortal of death
I am the spore of your pride, an angel, Heaven-sent
The master of all"
--'March of Mephisto' ~~Kamelot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0yYxOV-bRU

On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 8:37:40 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> One of the best voices in metal in my opinion. No, not the growls-- that's Shagrath, not me; but of Roy Khan of Norway (Norwegian/Thai) with Kamelot from Florida with stunning backing vocal from Mari Youngblood and Simone Simons from Holland.
> This is part 1, Anon has their three picks for this singer and band...
>
> "On the edge of paradise
> Poison burning In my veins
> Unavailing compromise
> My dreams remain the same
>
> Soothing but yet so violent
> In this world within the other world
> Moonlight, in visions, heaven sent
> I see demon eyes and wings unfurled"
> --'On the Edge of Paradise' ~~Kamelot
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wogej69je48
>
> "Come wind, come snow, come winterland
> I have resigned myself to death
> Come will to show the hidden hand
> So I can draw my final breath
> You could take me higher
> So you said, I trusted you
> I may be a liar
> But betrayal lies on you"
> --'Black Halo' ~~Kamelot
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkc9fd7u56g
>
> Opening (Mephisto, demonic voice by Shagrath)
> "Aspirat primo fortuna labori
> Me duce tutus eris
> Vox populi vox dei
> Ad maiorem dei gloriam
> Ad infinitum
> ("Fortune smiles upon our first effort
> Under my leadership, you will be safe
> The voice of the people is the voice of God
> For the greater glory of God
> To infinity")
>
> (Roy Khan)
> "You know just who I am
> Don't be so distant
> 'Cause when you're lost, I am solely there
> To share your grief"
>
> "Chase the heathen call
> We belong, you and I
> Unison in all you deny"
>
> "I am the thorn in your side that seeks accomplishment
> Reminding the mortal of death
> I am the spore of your pride, an angel, Heaven-sent
> The master of all"
> --'March of Mephisto' ~~Kamelot
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0yYxOV-bRU

As promised- here's Anon's picks for anyone wanting to know Kamelot. Epic songs I must say!

"I was a liar in every debate
I rule the forces that fuelled your hate
When the cold in my heart leaves, it comes to an end
Quietly I'll go to sleep"
--'The Haunting (Somewhere in Time)' ~~Kamelot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQzyAqOkXPo

"If the war by heaven's gate relieved desire
In the line of fire someone must have known
That a human heart demands to be admired
'Cause in the center of the universe
We are all alone
Show me sign of paradise, a place we all would like to go to
Tell me what to sacrifice so there's a chance for me to want you"
--'Center of the Universe' ~~Kamelot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwWnhX25oo

"One more thought that I had to sell
One last trick that you can't debate
[growl]
War
[chorus]
On a silent shore I confronted fear
I spoke to God but he wasn't there
The sun is down and the war begun
Assemble the great pandemonium"
--'The Great Pandemionium' (from the album Poetry for the Posined) ~~Kamelot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woRaHKNEs8Y
No, the growl wasn't an Ash cameo, guest singer Shagrath did all their growls :(
But that sonh is actually about the singer Khan, before he left for a break from music:
"This song tells the story of a man suffering a mental breakdown so dramatic and so complete that it can only be conveyed with a metaphor of the ultimate battle between humanity and the demonic hordes."
https://genius.com/Kamelot-the-great-pandemonium-lyrics

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 3:33:26 PM UTC-9, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 8:37:40 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > One of the best voices in metal in my opinion. No, not the growls-- that's Shagrath, not me; but of Roy Khan of Norway (Norwegian/Thai) with Kamelot from Florida with stunning backing vocal from Mari Youngblood and Simone Simons from Holland.
> > This is part 1, Anon has their three picks for this singer and band...
> >
> > "On the edge of paradise
> > Poison burning In my veins
> > Unavailing compromise
> > My dreams remain the same
> >
> > Soothing but yet so violent
> > In this world within the other world
> > Moonlight, in visions, heaven sent
> > I see demon eyes and wings unfurled"
> > --'On the Edge of Paradise' ~~Kamelot
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wogej69je48
> >
> > "Come wind, come snow, come winterland
> > I have resigned myself to death
> > Come will to show the hidden hand
> > So I can draw my final breath
> > You could take me higher
> > So you said, I trusted you
> > I may be a liar
> > But betrayal lies on you"
> > --'Black Halo' ~~Kamelot
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkc9fd7u56g
> >
> > Opening (Mephisto, demonic voice by Shagrath)
> > "Aspirat primo fortuna labori
> > Me duce tutus eris
> > Vox populi vox dei
> > Ad maiorem dei gloriam
> > Ad infinitum
> > ("Fortune smiles upon our first effort
> > Under my leadership, you will be safe
> > The voice of the people is the voice of God
> > For the greater glory of God
> > To infinity")
> >
> > (Roy Khan)
> > "You know just who I am
> > Don't be so distant
> > 'Cause when you're lost, I am solely there
> > To share your grief"
> >
> > "Chase the heathen call
> > We belong, you and I
> > Unison in all you deny"
> >
> > "I am the thorn in your side that seeks accomplishment
> > Reminding the mortal of death
> > I am the spore of your pride, an angel, Heaven-sent
> > The master of all"
> > --'March of Mephisto' ~~Kamelot
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0yYxOV-bRU
> As promised- here's Anon's picks for anyone wanting to know Kamelot. Epic songs I must say!
>
> "I was a liar in every debate
> I rule the forces that fuelled your hate
> When the cold in my heart leaves, it comes to an end
> Quietly I'll go to sleep"
> --'The Haunting (Somewhere in Time)' ~~Kamelot
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQzyAqOkXPo
>
> "If the war by heaven's gate relieved desire
> In the line of fire someone must have known
> That a human heart demands to be admired
> 'Cause in the center of the universe
> We are all alone
> Show me sign of paradise, a place we all would like to go to
> Tell me what to sacrifice so there's a chance for me to want you"
> --'Center of the Universe' ~~Kamelot
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwWnhX25oo
>
> "One more thought that I had to sell
> One last trick that you can't debate
> [growl]
> War
> [chorus]
> On a silent shore I confronted fear
> I spoke to God but he wasn't there
> The sun is down and the war begun
> Assemble the great pandemonium"
> --'The Great Pandemionium' (from the album Poetry for the Posined) ~~Kamelot
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woRaHKNEs8Y
> No, the growl wasn't an Ash cameo, guest singer Shagrath did all their growls :(
> But that sonh is actually about the singer Khan, before he left for a break from music:
> "This song tells the story of a man suffering a mental breakdown so dramatic and so complete that it can only be conveyed with a metaphor of the ultimate battle between humanity and the demonic hordes."
> https://genius.com/Kamelot-the-great-pandemonium-lyrics

Well, Ash, we would have to go to Milwaukee to see Kamelot locally. Power Metal?

We will certainly listen to the links tomorrow and give our educated opinion.

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 7:55:59 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 3:33:26 PM UTC-9, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 8:37:40 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > One of the best voices in metal in my opinion. No, not the growls-- that's Shagrath, not me; but of Roy Khan of Norway (Norwegian/Thai) with Kamelot from Florida with stunning backing vocal from Mari Youngblood and Simone Simons from Holland.
> > > This is part 1, Anon has their three picks for this singer and band....
> > >
> > > "On the edge of paradise
> > > Poison burning In my veins
> > > Unavailing compromise
> > > My dreams remain the same
> > >
> > > Soothing but yet so violent
> > > In this world within the other world
> > > Moonlight, in visions, heaven sent
> > > I see demon eyes and wings unfurled"
> > > --'On the Edge of Paradise' ~~Kamelot
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wogej69je48
> > >
> > > "Come wind, come snow, come winterland
> > > I have resigned myself to death
> > > Come will to show the hidden hand
> > > So I can draw my final breath
> > > You could take me higher
> > > So you said, I trusted you
> > > I may be a liar
> > > But betrayal lies on you"
> > > --'Black Halo' ~~Kamelot
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkc9fd7u56g
> > >
> > > Opening (Mephisto, demonic voice by Shagrath)
> > > "Aspirat primo fortuna labori
> > > Me duce tutus eris
> > > Vox populi vox dei
> > > Ad maiorem dei gloriam
> > > Ad infinitum
> > > ("Fortune smiles upon our first effort
> > > Under my leadership, you will be safe
> > > The voice of the people is the voice of God
> > > For the greater glory of God
> > > To infinity")
> > >
> > > (Roy Khan)
> > > "You know just who I am
> > > Don't be so distant
> > > 'Cause when you're lost, I am solely there
> > > To share your grief"
> > >
> > > "Chase the heathen call
> > > We belong, you and I
> > > Unison in all you deny"
> > >
> > > "I am the thorn in your side that seeks accomplishment
> > > Reminding the mortal of death
> > > I am the spore of your pride, an angel, Heaven-sent
> > > The master of all"
> > > --'March of Mephisto' ~~Kamelot
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0yYxOV-bRU
> > As promised- here's Anon's picks for anyone wanting to know Kamelot. Epic songs I must say!
> >
> > "I was a liar in every debate
> > I rule the forces that fuelled your hate
> > When the cold in my heart leaves, it comes to an end
> > Quietly I'll go to sleep"
> > --'The Haunting (Somewhere in Time)' ~~Kamelot
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQzyAqOkXPo
> >
> > "If the war by heaven's gate relieved desire
> > In the line of fire someone must have known
> > That a human heart demands to be admired
> > 'Cause in the center of the universe
> > We are all alone
> > Show me sign of paradise, a place we all would like to go to
> > Tell me what to sacrifice so there's a chance for me to want you"
> > --'Center of the Universe' ~~Kamelot
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwWnhX25oo
> >
> > "One more thought that I had to sell
> > One last trick that you can't debate
> > [growl]
> > War
> > [chorus]
> > On a silent shore I confronted fear
> > I spoke to God but he wasn't there
> > The sun is down and the war begun
> > Assemble the great pandemonium"
> > --'The Great Pandemionium' (from the album Poetry for the Posined) ~~Kamelot
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woRaHKNEs8Y
> > No, the growl wasn't an Ash cameo, guest singer Shagrath did all their growls :(
> > But that sonh is actually about the singer Khan, before he left for a break from music:
> > "This song tells the story of a man suffering a mental breakdown so dramatic and so complete that it can only be conveyed with a metaphor of the ultimate battle between humanity and the demonic hordes."
> > https://genius.com/Kamelot-the-great-pandemonium-lyrics
> Well, Ash, we would have to go to Milwaukee to see Kamelot locally. Power Metal?
>
> We will certainly listen to the links tomorrow and give our educated opinion.

Yes Power Metal is a genre where it's epic music, themes and vocals and breakneck guitar speed -- especially if you're an Italian Power Metal band, the connseisuers of Power Metal
--'Heroes Don't Complain' ~~Sketetoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDd82vxTz2M

Next, more on Khan's unique vocal talents where he does traditional ballads, without metal music even...