Will Dockery wrote:
> General-Zod wrote:
> > George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> > Silk Diamond, by George Sulzbach
> >
> > Silk diamond
> > September golden bullet
> > The leather horse
> > Rider
> > With bad news.
> > [...]
> >
> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/09/silk-diamond-george-sulzbach.html
> > I thank you G.D.
> >
> > Looks great..!
> > Thanks. I'm glad it's on.
> >
> > As someone else put it, not as diplomatically, some people have challenged my judgement in including it. So I'd like to take a few minutes, and talk about why I included it.
> >
> > First of all, I'll admit, SD would not have been included if it hadn[t mentioned "September." But while referencing the month was necessary, it was hardly sufficient. I read over a dozen poems about "September" Saturday morning, and rejected all of them as being unsuitable for the context (where it appeared in the monthly archive).
> >
> > It's very much in the Beat (or post-Beat) genre, of disjointed, swirling, "fragmented" images that so many people were writing (and so many were parodying) in the '70s and '80s, when I first got interested in poetry. As such, it fits with the selection that comes before it (today's), which is by a recognized Beat (but very light-hearted).
> >
> > Post-Beat poetry is very much written in what Northrop Frye calls the second stage of a lyric poet's evolution, the 'private language' phase; so I've got to admit that I have no idea what story and theme you intend; I had to read the poem myself and make up my own. The first phrase that struck me and I had to interpret was "September golden bullet": I imagined a single yellow leaf blowing by in the wind, the first sign of the end of summer and the coming of winter. That gave me a story: because winter's coming on, the speaker has to leave his lady (whom he calls "Silk Diamond" - your "Picture of the Lady" reinforces that idea), because he has to "cross the pass" before winter.
> >
> > He has to leave her and cross the pass because of the "bad news"; there is a "desperado / With a taste for murder" loose in the land. That gave me two interpretations. On the first, he has to leave her to go fight against the
> > desperado; which reminded me of Richard Lovelace's "To Lucasta, Going to the Wars." On the second interpretation, "crossing the path" was an allegory, for dying: he's leaving her by dying, and the desperado is simply Death itself.
> >
> > That last interpretation made it a great lead into Wilcox's poem about the "September of her Life," her good days being over and her death in front of her. It fit, in a way that no other poem did fit.
> >
> > As I say, I could have completely misunderstood your poem; that's a hazard of "private language" poetry. But most of your poetry is "private language". Which brings me to my last reason for including it. It is representative of your work; and while you already have two poems on the blog, neither are representative: "Expecting Inspiration" was in a whole different vein, which is what attracted me to it initially. And "Dandelions" was (1) specifically written for a poetry challenge, ie not a topic you chose, and (2) changed by an editor into a format that owes more to Stevens than to Sulzbach ("Four ways of looking at dandelions"). Adding SD gives a fairer picture of your work.
> >
> > Someone challenged my judgement last night,
> > and it might have caused a huge family fight
> > had I not simply said, "Alright!
> > You win! I'm in no mood to write!"
> >
> > I lost the argument. I'm told
> > that happens more as we grow old,
> > so without words, our truths unfold.
> > Silence is worth its weight in gold.
> > Very nice, even if off-topic. Definitely a keeper for your blog and your own book (should you decide to do one).
> > I'd encourage you to post it in it's own thread, where I'd like to say more.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Hi and THX again.....
>
> Good back story, Zod.

Indeed and I thank you kindly...

May God bless...!

Faraway Star wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> General-Zod wrote:
>> > George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>> > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>> > Silk Diamond, by George Sulzbach
>> >
>> > Silk diamond
>> > September golden bullet
>> > The leather horse
>> > Rider
>> > With bad news.
>> > [...]
>> >
>> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/09/silk-diamond-george-sulzbach.html
>> > I thank you G.D.
>> >
>> > Looks great..!
>> > Thanks. I'm glad it's on.
>> >
>> > As someone else put it, not as diplomatically, some people have challenged my judgement in including it. So I'd like to take a few minutes, and talk about why I included it.
>> >
>> > First of all, I'll admit, SD would not have been included if it hadn[t mentioned "September." But while referencing the month was necessary, it was hardly sufficient. I read over a dozen poems about "September" Saturday morning, and rejected all of them as being unsuitable for the context (where it appeared in the monthly archive).
>> >
>> > It's very much in the Beat (or post-Beat) genre, of disjointed, swirling, "fragmented" images that so many people were writing (and so many were parodying) in the '70s and '80s, when I first got interested in poetry. As such, it fits with the selection that comes before it (today's), which is by a recognized Beat (but very light-hearted).
>> >
>> > Post-Beat poetry is very much written in what Northrop Frye calls the second stage of a lyric poet's evolution, the 'private language' phase; so I've got to admit that I have no idea what story and theme you intend; I had to read the poem myself and make up my own. The first phrase that struck me and I had to interpret was "September golden bullet": I imagined a single yellow leaf blowing by in the wind, the first sign of the end of summer and the coming of winter. That gave me a story: because winter's coming on, the speaker has to leave his lady (whom he calls "Silk Diamond" - your "Picture of the Lady" reinforces that idea), because he has to "cross the pass" before winter.
>> >
>> > He has to leave her and cross the pass because of the "bad news"; there is a "desperado / With a taste for murder" loose in the land. That gave me two interpretations. On the first, he has to leave her to go fight against the
>> > desperado; which reminded me of Richard Lovelace's "To Lucasta, Going to the Wars." On the second interpretation, "crossing the path" was an allegory, for dying: he's leaving her by dying, and the desperado is simply Death itself.
>> >
>> > That last interpretation made it a great lead into Wilcox's poem about the "September of her Life," her good days being over and her death in front of her. It fit, in a way that no other poem did fit.
>> >
>> > As I say, I could have completely misunderstood your poem; that's a hazard of "private language" poetry. But most of your poetry is "private language". Which brings me to my last reason for including it. It is representative of your work; and while you already have two poems on the blog, neither are representative: "Expecting Inspiration" was in a whole different vein, which is what attracted me to it initially. And "Dandelions" was (1) specifically written for a poetry challenge, ie not a topic you chose, and (2) changed by an editor into a format that owes more to Stevens than to Sulzbach ("Four ways of looking at dandelions"). Adding SD gives a fairer picture of your work.
>> >
>> > Someone challenged my judgement last night,
>> > and it might have caused a huge family fight
>> > had I not simply said, "Alright!
>> > You win! I'm in no mood to write!"
>> >
>> > I lost the argument. I'm told
>> > that happens more as we grow old,
>> > so without words, our truths unfold.
>> > Silence is worth its weight in gold.
>> > Very nice, even if off-topic. Definitely a keeper for your blog and your own book (should you decide to do one).
>> > I'd encourage you to post it in it's own thread, where I'd like to say more.
>> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >
>> > Hi and THX again.....
>>
>> Good back story, Zod.

> Indeed and I thank you kindly...

> May God bless...!

Happy holidays to you and yours my friend.

😃

Will Dockery wrote:

> Faraway Star wrote:

>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> General-Zod wrote:
>>> > George J. Dance wrote:
>>>
>>> > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>> > Silk Diamond, by George Sulzbach
>>> >
>>> > Silk diamond
>>> > September golden bullet
>>> > The leather horse
>>> > Rider
>>> > With bad news.
>>> > [...]
>>> >
>>> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/09/silk-diamond-george-sulzbach.html
>>> > I thank you G.D.
>>> >
>>> > Looks great..!
>>> > Thanks. I'm glad it's on.
>>> >
>>> > As someone else put it, not as diplomatically, some people have challenged my judgement in including it. So I'd like to take a few minutes, and talk about why I included it.
>>> >
>>> > First of all, I'll admit, SD would not have been included if it hadn[t mentioned "September." But while referencing the month was necessary, it was hardly sufficient. I read over a dozen poems about "September" Saturday morning, and rejected all of them as being unsuitable for the context (where it appeared in the monthly archive).
>>> >
>>> > It's very much in the Beat (or post-Beat) genre, of disjointed, swirling, "fragmented" images that so many people were writing (and so many were parodying) in the '70s and '80s, when I first got interested in poetry. As such, it fits with the selection that comes before it (today's), which is by a recognized Beat (but very light-hearted).
>>> >
>>> > Post-Beat poetry is very much written in what Northrop Frye calls the second stage of a lyric poet's evolution, the 'private language' phase; so I've got to admit that I have no idea what story and theme you intend; I had to read the poem myself and make up my own. The first phrase that struck me and I had to interpret was "September golden bullet": I imagined a single yellow leaf blowing by in the wind, the first sign of the end of summer and the coming of winter. That gave me a story: because winter's coming on, the speaker has to leave his lady (whom he calls "Silk Diamond" - your "Picture of the Lady" reinforces that idea), because he has to "cross the pass" before winter.
>>> >
>>> > He has to leave her and cross the pass because of the "bad news"; there is a "desperado / With a taste for murder" loose in the land. That gave me two interpretations. On the first, he has to leave her to go fight against the
>>> > desperado; which reminded me of Richard Lovelace's "To Lucasta, Going to the Wars." On the second interpretation, "crossing the path" was an allegory, for dying: he's leaving her by dying, and the desperado is simply Death itself.
>>> >
>>> > That last interpretation made it a great lead into Wilcox's poem about the "September of her Life," her good days being over and her death in front of her. It fit, in a way that no other poem did fit.
>>> >
>>> > As I say, I could have completely misunderstood your poem; that's a hazard of "private language" poetry. But most of your poetry is "private language". Which brings me to my last reason for including it. It is representative of your work; and while you already have two poems on the blog, neither are representative: "Expecting Inspiration" was in a whole different vein, which is what attracted me to it initially. And "Dandelions" was (1) specifically written for a poetry challenge, ie not a topic you chose, and (2) changed by an editor into a format that owes more to Stevens than to Sulzbach ("Four ways of looking at dandelions"). Adding SD gives a fairer picture of your work.
>>> >
>>> > Someone challenged my judgement last night,
>>> > and it might have caused a huge family fight
>>> > had I not simply said, "Alright!
>>> > You win! I'm in no mood to write!"
>>> >
>>> > I lost the argument. I'm told
>>> > that happens more as we grow old,
>>> > so without words, our truths unfold.
>>> > Silence is worth its weight in gold.
>>> > Very nice, even if off-topic. Definitely a keeper for your blog and your own book (should you decide to do one).
>>> > I'd encourage you to post it in it's own thread, where I'd like to say more.
>>> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> >
>>> > Hi and THX again.....
>>>
>>> Good back story, Zod.

>> Indeed and I thank you kindly...

>> May God bless...!

> Happy holidays to you and yours my friend.

> 😃

How'd do?

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> Faraway Star wrote:

>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> General-Zod wrote:
>>>> > George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>>> > Silk Diamond, by George Sulzbach
>>>> >
>>>> > Silk diamond
>>>> > September golden bullet
>>>> > The leather horse
>>>> > Rider
>>>> > With bad news.
>>>> > [...]
>>>> >
>>>> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/09/silk-diamond-george-sulzbach.html
>>>> > I thank you G.D.
>>>> >
>>>> > Looks great..!
>>>> > Thanks. I'm glad it's on.
>>>> >
>>>> > As someone else put it, not as diplomatically, some people have challenged my judgement in including it. So I'd like to take a few minutes, and talk about why I included it.
>>>> >
>>>> > First of all, I'll admit, SD would not have been included if it hadn[t mentioned "September." But while referencing the month was necessary, it was hardly sufficient. I read over a dozen poems about "September" Saturday morning, and rejected all of them as being unsuitable for the context (where it appeared in the monthly archive).
>>>> >
>>>> > It's very much in the Beat (or post-Beat) genre, of disjointed, swirling, "fragmented" images that so many people were writing (and so many were parodying) in the '70s and '80s, when I first got interested in poetry. As such, it fits with the selection that comes before it (today's), which is by a recognized Beat (but very light-hearted).
>>>> >
>>>> > Post-Beat poetry is very much written in what Northrop Frye calls the second stage of a lyric poet's evolution, the 'private language' phase; so I've got to admit that I have no idea what story and theme you intend; I had to read the poem myself and make up my own. The first phrase that struck me and I had to interpret was "September golden bullet": I imagined a single yellow leaf blowing by in the wind, the first sign of the end of summer and the coming of winter. That gave me a story: because winter's coming on, the speaker has to leave his lady (whom he calls "Silk Diamond" - your "Picture of the Lady" reinforces that idea), because he has to "cross the pass" before winter.
>>>> >
>>>> > He has to leave her and cross the pass because of the "bad news"; there is a "desperado / With a taste for murder" loose in the land. That gave me two interpretations. On the first, he has to leave her to go fight against the
>>>> > desperado; which reminded me of Richard Lovelace's "To Lucasta, Going to the Wars." On the second interpretation, "crossing the path" was an allegory, for dying: he's leaving her by dying, and the desperado is simply Death itself.
>>>> >
>>>> > That last interpretation made it a great lead into Wilcox's poem about the "September of her Life," her good days being over and her death in front of her. It fit, in a way that no other poem did fit.
>>>> >
>>>> > As I say, I could have completely misunderstood your poem; that's a hazard of "private language" poetry. But most of your poetry is "private language". Which brings me to my last reason for including it. It is representative of your work; and while you already have two poems on the blog, neither are representative: "Expecting Inspiration" was in a whole different vein, which is what attracted me to it initially. And "Dandelions" was (1) specifically written for a poetry challenge, ie not a topic you chose, and (2) changed by an editor into a format that owes more to Stevens than to Sulzbach ("Four ways of looking at dandelions"). Adding SD gives a fairer picture of your work.
>>>> >
>>>> > Someone challenged my judgement last night,
>>>> > and it might have caused a huge family fight
>>>> > had I not simply said, "Alright!
>>>> > You win! I'm in no mood to write!"
>>>> >
>>>> > I lost the argument. I'm told
>>>> > that happens more as we grow old,
>>>> > so without words, our truths unfold.
>>>> > Silence is worth its weight in gold.
>>>> > Very nice, even if off-topic. Definitely a keeper for your blog and your own book (should you decide to do one).
>>>> > I'd encourage you to post it in it's own thread, where I'd like to say more.
>>>> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi and THX again.....
>>>>
>>>> Good back story, Zod.

>>> Indeed and I thank you kindly...

>>> May God bless...!

>> Happy holidays to you and yours my friend.

>

> How'd do?

Good morning again, Zod.

😏

Will Dockery wrote:

> Faraway Star wrote:

>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> General-Zod wrote:
>>> > George J. Dance wrote:
>>>
>>> > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>> > Silk Diamond, by George Sulzbach
>>> >
>>> > Silk diamond
>>> > September golden bullet
>>> > The leather horse
>>> > Rider
>>> > With bad news.
>>> > [...]
>>> >
>>> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/09/silk-diamond-george-sulzbach.html
>>> > I thank you G.D.
>>> >
>>> > Looks great..!
>>> > Thanks. I'm glad it's on.
>>> >
>>> > As someone else put it, not as diplomatically, some people have challenged my judgement in including it. So I'd like to take a few minutes, and talk about why I included it.
>>> >
>>> > First of all, I'll admit, SD would not have been included if it hadn[t mentioned "September." But while referencing the month was necessary, it was hardly sufficient. I read over a dozen poems about "September" Saturday morning, and rejected all of them as being unsuitable for the context (where it appeared in the monthly archive).
>>> >
>>> > It's very much in the Beat (or post-Beat) genre, of disjointed, swirling, "fragmented" images that so many people were writing (and so many were parodying) in the '70s and '80s, when I first got interested in poetry. As such, it fits with the selection that comes before it (today's), which is by a recognized Beat (but very light-hearted).
>>> >
>>> > Post-Beat poetry is very much written in what Northrop Frye calls the second stage of a lyric poet's evolution, the 'private language' phase; so I've got to admit that I have no idea what story and theme you intend; I had to read the poem myself and make up my own. The first phrase that struck me and I had to interpret was "September golden bullet": I imagined a single yellow leaf blowing by in the wind, the first sign of the end of summer and the coming of winter. That gave me a story: because winter's coming on, the speaker has to leave his lady (whom he calls "Silk Diamond" - your "Picture of the Lady" reinforces that idea), because he has to "cross the pass" before winter.
>>> >
>>> > He has to leave her and cross the pass because of the "bad news"; there is a "desperado / With a taste for murder" loose in the land. That gave me two interpretations. On the first, he has to leave her to go fight against the
>>> > desperado; which reminded me of Richard Lovelace's "To Lucasta, Going to the Wars." On the second interpretation, "crossing the path" was an allegory, for dying: he's leaving her by dying, and the desperado is simply Death itself.
>>> >
>>> > That last interpretation made it a great lead into Wilcox's poem about the "September of her Life," her good days being over and her death in front of her. It fit, in a way that no other poem did fit.
>>> >
>>> > As I say, I could have completely misunderstood your poem; that's a hazard of "private language" poetry. But most of your poetry is "private language". Which brings me to my last reason for including it. It is representative of your work; and while you already have two poems on the blog, neither are representative: "Expecting Inspiration" was in a whole different vein, which is what attracted me to it initially. And "Dandelions" was (1) specifically written for a poetry challenge, ie not a topic you chose, and (2) changed by an editor into a format that owes more to Stevens than to Sulzbach ("Four ways of looking at dandelions"). Adding SD gives a fairer picture of your work.
>>> >
>>> > Someone challenged my judgement last night,
>>> > and it might have caused a huge family fight
>>> > had I not simply said, "Alright!
>>> > You win! I'm in no mood to write!"
>>> >
>>> > I lost the argument. I'm told
>>> > that happens more as we grow old,
>>> > so without words, our truths unfold.
>>> > Silence is worth its weight in gold.
>>> > Very nice, even if off-topic. Definitely a keeper for your blog and your own book (should you decide to do one).
>>> > I'd encourage you to post it in it's own thread, where I'd like to say more.
>>> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> >
>>> > Hi and THX again.....
>>>
>>> Good back story, Zod.

>> Indeed and I thank you kindly...

>> May God bless...!

> Happy holidays to you and yours my friend.

> 😃

Happy Springtime...!

Will Dockery wrote:

> General-Zod wrote:

>> Will Dockery wrote:

>>> Faraway Star wrote:

>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>> General-Zod wrote:
>>>>> > George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>>>> > Silk Diamond, by George Sulzbach
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Silk diamond
>>>>> > September golden bullet
>>>>> > The leather horse
>>>>> > Rider
>>>>> > With bad news.
>>>>> > [...]
>>>>> >
>>>>> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/09/silk-diamond-george-sulzbach.html
>>>>> > I thank you G.D.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Looks great..!
>>>>> > Thanks. I'm glad it's on.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > As someone else put it, not as diplomatically, some people have challenged my judgement in including it. So I'd like to take a few minutes, and talk about why I included it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > First of all, I'll admit, SD would not have been included if it hadn[t mentioned "September." But while referencing the month was necessary, it was hardly sufficient. I read over a dozen poems about "September" Saturday morning, and rejected all of them as being unsuitable for the context (where it appeared in the monthly archive).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It's very much in the Beat (or post-Beat) genre, of disjointed, swirling, "fragmented" images that so many people were writing (and so many were parodying) in the '70s and '80s, when I first got interested in poetry. As such, it fits with the selection that comes before it (today's), which is by a recognized Beat (but very light-hearted).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Post-Beat poetry is very much written in what Northrop Frye calls the second stage of a lyric poet's evolution, the 'private language' phase; so I've got to admit that I have no idea what story and theme you intend; I had to read the poem myself and make up my own. The first phrase that struck me and I had to interpret was "September golden bullet": I imagined a single yellow leaf blowing by in the wind, the first sign of the end of summer and the coming of winter. That gave me a story: because winter's coming on, the speaker has to leave his lady (whom he calls "Silk Diamond" - your "Picture of the Lady" reinforces that idea), because he has to "cross the pass" before winter.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > He has to leave her and cross the pass because of the "bad news"; there is a "desperado / With a taste for murder" loose in the land. That gave me two interpretations. On the first, he has to leave her to go fight against the
>>>>> > desperado; which reminded me of Richard Lovelace's "To Lucasta, Going to the Wars." On the second interpretation, "crossing the path" was an allegory, for dying: he's leaving her by dying, and the desperado is simply Death itself.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That last interpretation made it a great lead into Wilcox's poem about the "September of her Life," her good days being over and her death in front of her. It fit, in a way that no other poem did fit.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > As I say, I could have completely misunderstood your poem; that's a hazard of "private language" poetry. But most of your poetry is "private language". Which brings me to my last reason for including it. It is representative of your work; and while you already have two poems on the blog, neither are representative: "Expecting Inspiration" was in a whole different vein, which is what attracted me to it initially. And "Dandelions" was (1) specifically written for a poetry challenge, ie not a topic you chose, and (2) changed by an editor into a format that owes more to Stevens than to Sulzbach ("Four ways of looking at dandelions"). Adding SD gives a fairer picture of your work.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Someone challenged my judgement last night,
>>>>> > and it might have caused a huge family fight
>>>>> > had I not simply said, "Alright!
>>>>> > You win! I'm in no mood to write!"
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I lost the argument. I'm told
>>>>> > that happens more as we grow old,
>>>>> > so without words, our truths unfold.
>>>>> > Silence is worth its weight in gold.
>>>>> > Very nice, even if off-topic. Definitely a keeper for your blog and your own book (should you decide to do one).
>>>>> > I'd encourage you to post it in it's own thread, where I'd like to say more.
>>>>> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi and THX again.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Good back story, Zod.

>>>> Indeed and I thank you kindly...

>>>> May God bless...!

>>> Happy holidays to you and yours my friend.

>>

>> How'd do?

> Good morning again, Zod.

> 😏

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