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* MT VOID, 06/16/23 -- Vol. 41, No. 51, Whole Number 2260eleeper@optonline.net
+* MT VOID, 06/16/23 -- Vol. 41, No. 51, Whole Number 2260Gary McGath
|`* MT VOID, 06/16/23 -- Vol. 41, No. 51, Whole Number 2260Paul Dormer
| `- MT VOID, 06/16/23 -- Vol. 41, No. 51, Whole Number 2260Gary McGath
`- MT VOID, 06/16/23 -- Vol. 41, No. 51, Whole Number 2260Paul Dormer

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THE MT VOID
06/16/23 -- Vol. 41, No. 51, Whole Number 2260

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Co-Editor: Evelyn Leeper, eleeper@optonline.net
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Topics:
Mini Reviews, Part 24 (THE ANGRY BLACK GIRL AND
HER MONSTER, DAVE MADE A MAZE, DISENCHANTED,
NANNY) (film reviews by Mark R. Leeper
and Evelyn C. Leeper)
THE MOUNTAIN IN THE SEA by Ray Nayler (audio book review
by Joe Karpierz)
MOBY-DICK (letter of comment by Fred Lerner)
This Week's Reading (THE BEST OF L. SPRAGUE DE CAMP)
(book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

===================================================================

TOPIC: Mini Reviews, Part 25 (film reviews by Mark R. Leeper and
Evelyn C. Leeper)

This is the twenty-fifth batch of mini-reviews, all films of the
fantastic:

THE ANGRY BLACK GIRL AND HER MONSTER (2023): THE ANGRY BLACK GIRL
AND HER MONSTER starts out narrated by the "angry Black girl" of
the title. She tells a few of her growing-up experiences, which
are familiar as tragic stories we have heard many times before.

Back in 1972 Samuel Z. Arkoff produced a pastiche of Dracula called
BLACULA. Similarly, several filmmakers have made films trying to
give classic stories a more contemporary setting (e.g., Jack the
Ripper, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, and the Phantom of the Opera).
Now Bomani J. Story has done this with Mary Shelley's FRANKENSTEIN,
setting the new version in an African-American neighborhood.
(Although the neighborhood that this takes place in is supposedly
controlled by a murderous drug gang, it is surprisingly green and
pleasant-looking.)

The story follows the plot of FRANKENSTEIN, with director Story
staying closer to the plot of the Shelley novel than either James
Whale or Terence Fisher did. Much of the enjoyment of this film
derives from seeing where its plot points connect to the same plot
in the original. Where the original Frankenstein was fascinated by
electricity, Vicaria (the "Angry Black Girl" of the title) is
fascinated by lightning, but both Frankenstein and Vicaria
antagonize their teachers. (Vicaria's first name is an homage to
the "Victor" of the novel; her last name is never specified, but it
is referred to as sounding German .)

Vicaria speculates that if death such as the death she is seeing
all around her is a disease, then perhaps it can be cured. She
also has a fascination on famous (Black) scientists and their
discoveries and inventions.

Once we get to the middle of the film, however, it no longer seems
to be using the plot of the Shelley novel. Ultimately, the viewer
then must decide what presentation best fits the Shelley.
[-mrl/ecl]

Released theatrically 9 June 2023. Rating: +1 (-4 to +4), or 6/10.

Film Credits:
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19896150/reference>

What others are saying:
<https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/
the_angry_black_girl_and_her_monster>

DAVE MADE A MAZE (2017): DAVE MADE A MAZE is sort of a modern
FORBIDDEN ZONE with the weird music. Dave builds a maze in his
living room out of cardboard boxes, but somehow it becomes bigger
on the inside than on the outside (is it a TARDIS or just "A Subway
Called Moebius"?). It also acquires booby traps, weird
perspectives, and strange powers. The film seems oddly similar to
SYNECDOCHE in some ways that I can't explain.

Oh, and there's a minotaur. And at the end someone does note the
difference between a maze and a labyrinth. [-ecl]

Released theatrically 18 August 2017. Rating: high +2 (-4 to +4),
or 7/10.

Film Credits:
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4457344/reference>

What others are saying:
<https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dave_made_a_maze>

DISENCHANTED (2022): DISENCHANTED is the sequel to 2007 ENCHANTED,
with Amy Adams and Patrick Dempsey returning as the leads, but
while some of the humor of the dissonance between the two worlds
worked in the original, it does not work here. In part, this is
because all the good jokes were already taken. The plot is also
weak: just take older fairy tale plotting and replace good with bad
and vice versa and the script practically writes itself.

(Is it my imagination or does the annoying magic scroll look like
the infamous dancing paper clip?) [-mrl/ecl]

Released streaming 18 November 2022. Rating: +1 (-4 to +4) or 6/10

Film Credits: <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1596342/reference>

What others are saying:
<https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/disenchanted_2022>

NANNY (2022): NANNY is a a film combining heavy drama and horror.
It is uniformly well cast and surprisingly strongly affecting.
This is a film that could not have been made ten years ago. [-mrl]

Released streaming 28 December 2022. Rating: +2 (-4 to +4) or 7/10

Film Credits:
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10931784/reference>

What others are saying:
<https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/nanny>

===================================================================

TOPIC: THE MOUNTAIN IN THE SEA by Ray Nayler (copyright 2022,
Macmillan Audio, 11 hours and 5 minutes, ASIN: B09Q7GVD92, narrated
by Eunice Wong) (audio book review by Joe Karpierz)

Oddly, the thing that I heard about THE MOUNTAIN IN THE SEA by Ray
Nayler that drew me to reading (well, listening to) the book was
"AND it's got intelligent octopuses in it!" Now, the first thing I
thought was "it's octopi, not octopuses", but then I looked it up
and saw that both are correct, with octopuses being listed first,
then octopi. The next thing I thought was "How odd that a novel
with intelligent octopuses in it is so highly regarded by the
science fiction community." But the fact that it *was* highly
regarded was the tipping point for me picking up the book.

Of course, those intelligent octopuses are only a small part of the
story, and not really even the whole story, when you come right
down to it. But that's not a surprise, is it?

Those octopuses are the triggering point for the novel, however.
It turns out that a species of octopus has been discovered in the
Con Dao Archiplelago, and Dr. Ha Nguyen, who had been spent her
life studying cephalopod intelligence and even wrote a book about
it entitled "How Oceans Think" has been offered the chance to go to
the Archipelago and study those octopuses. The Archipelago has
been cleared out of its inhabitants by the DIANIMA corporation, and
all entry and exit to the facility is highly restricted (as we
learn later on in the novel, anyone who tries to leave will be
killed), so the invitation is highly exclusive, and Ha jumps at the
chance.

Ha is one of three, um, entities at the facility. The other two
are Evrim, a highly intelligent android that is so much like a
human being that international laws have been passed not only
outlawing her existence but prohibiting any more androids from
being built as well; and Altantsetseg, a female war veteran who is
the facilities one and only security officer who manages to keep
all intruders at bay and at first appearance doesn't seem quite
human because of the armor she wears and the weird translation
device she uses.

But as I said earlier, the book is not about intelligent octopuses
at all; what it is about is communication, changing societies, the
impact of another intelligent species right here on Earth that uses
symbols to communicate, and the nature of consciousness. A curious
but interesting side story involves an AI-like entity called a
".5". The owner of a .5 can have an emotional relationship with
the .5, with the idea being that we don't want to have to worry
about the needs of others, just our own needs. So, the .5 is
interested in the owner's needs but does not need the owner to take
care of it. Ha has a .5, and eventually comes to the realization
that it is not really doing her any good, and eventually discards
it. The point, as I see it, is that as a society we need to take
care of each other, and that kind of relationship by definition is
not a one-way street.

There are a couple of other interesting subplots at play here. One
involves a hacker named Rustem who specializes in AI minds. He's
been hired by a mysterious woman in a mask to break into a complex
neural network by a back door and take over Evrim's mind. The
other involves a young man named Eiko, who applies for a position
at one of the regional headquarters of DIANIMA but ends up being
kidnapped and forced to work on a fishing boat controlled by AI.
Eventually these two subplots do merge into the main story near the
end, and they are a fascinating look into the society and politics
that exist outside the Con Dao Archipelago.


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 by: Gary McGath - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 15:30 UTC

On 6/18/23 10:13 AM, eleeper@optonline.net wrote:
> Oddly, the thing that I heard about THE MOUNTAIN IN THE SEA by Ray
> Nayler that drew me to reading (well, listening to) the book was
> "AND it's got intelligent octopuses in it!" Now, the first thing I
> thought was "it's octopi, not octopuses", but then I looked it up
> and saw that both are correct, with octopuses being listed first,
> then octopi.

I dislike "octopi" even if some dictionaries accept it. The word comes
from Greek: "octo" (eight) + "pus" (foot). The "-us" isn't a Latin noun
ending, which is the only reason it would be pluralized with "-i".

I object to "platypi" for the same reason.

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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 by: Paul Dormer - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 15:30 UTC

In article <69d87bf5-f01c-4e10-af6f-a8f17df765f6n@googlegroups.com>,
evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com () wrote:

> "Octopi" is wrong because it assumes the root is Latin, but it is
> not--it is Greek. The "correct" plural would be "octopodes".
> "Octopi" is only "correct" because of common usage.

Chambers dictionary (2014 edition) gives:

pl oc'topuses, (archaic) octo'podes (or /-top'/); oc'topi is wrong

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 by: Paul Dormer - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 15:50 UTC

In article <u6n7v4$1mitg$1@dont-email.me>, garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath)
wrote:

> I dislike "octopi" even if some dictionaries accept it. The word
> comes from Greek: "octo" (eight) + "pus" (foot). The "-us" isn't a
> Latin noun ending, which is the only reason it would be pluralized
> with "-i".
>
> I object to "platypi" for the same reason.

Many years ago, when I was still working, some guy came to give a talk
about a product he was pushing. He kept on referring to "stati" as a
plural of status. Eventually I snapped. "It's not stati," I said. "The
Latin plural is status, [pronounced "statoose"] It's fourth declension."

I never did Latin at school, and at the time, I didn't actually know what
fourth declension meant, but it has been explained to me. Afterwards, my
colleagues said it was the best bit of the presentation.

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 by: Gary McGath - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 17:19 UTC

On 6/18/23 11:50 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:
> In article <u6n7v4$1mitg$1@dont-email.me>, garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath)
> wrote:
>
>> I dislike "octopi" even if some dictionaries accept it. The word
>> comes from Greek: "octo" (eight) + "pus" (foot). The "-us" isn't a
>> Latin noun ending, which is the only reason it would be pluralized
>> with "-i".
>>
>> I object to "platypi" for the same reason.
>
> Many years ago, when I was still working, some guy came to give a talk
> about a product he was pushing. He kept on referring to "stati" as a
> plural of status. Eventually I snapped. "It's not stati," I said. "The
> Latin plural is status, [pronounced "statoose"] It's fourth declension."
>

I've started working on a filk on the subject. Here's the tentative last
verse:

Though some may claim that "octopi"
Is not the hill where I should die,
I'll stand my ground against their forces
And won't yield even to a "Dorsus."

In case it isn't obvious, Dorsus is the reverse-constructed singular of
Dorsai.

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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