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* AKICIF: Alphbetizing TitlesKeith F. Lynch
`* AKICIF: Alphbetizing TitlesScott Dorsey
 +- AKICIF: Alphbetizing Titleseleeper@optonline.net
 `* AKICIF: Alphbetizing TitlesRobert Woodward
  +- AKICIF: Alphbetizing TitlesKeith F. Lynch
  `* AKICIF: Alphbetizing TitlesKevrob
   +* AKICIF: Alphbetizing TitlesKeith F. Lynch
   |`- AKICIF: Alphbetizing TitlesTim Merrigan
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    `* AKICIF: Alphbetizing TitlesScott Dorsey
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Subject: Re: AKICIF: Alphbetizing Titles
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 by: Keith F. Lynch - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 03:18 UTC

eleeper@optonline.net <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, I know that "The Birds" is alphabetized as "Birds, The" and "A
> Kiss Before Dying" is "Kiss Before Dying, A". I also believe that
> "El Conde Dracula" should be "Conde Dracula, El". Is "L'Avventura"
> "Avventura, L'" (with an apostrophe after the "L"?

> And what about "Da 5 Bloods" (which is what started me on this train
> of thought)?

When I really want to drive a perfectionist organizer mad, I give them
Ace doubles.

Also see the recent thread about sorting history books in
chronological order. (Lots of historical periods overlapped, or
had no clear beginnings or endings. I still consider it weird that
there's no definite end to the medieval period, but that there was
a specific last day of the Mesozoic era.)
--
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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 by: Scott Dorsey - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 12:30 UTC

In article <uik7df$fiv$1@reader2.panix.com>,
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>eleeper@optonline.net <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Okay, I know that "The Birds" is alphabetized as "Birds, The" and "A
>> Kiss Before Dying" is "Kiss Before Dying, A". I also believe that
>> "El Conde Dracula" should be "Conde Dracula, El". Is "L'Avventura"
>> "Avventura, L'" (with an apostrophe after the "L"?
>
>> And what about "Da 5 Bloods" (which is what started me on this train
>> of thought)?
>
>When I really want to drive a perfectionist organizer mad, I give them
>Ace doubles.

They go in the special Ace Doubles section, indexed by number.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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 by: eleeper@optonline.ne - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:05 UTC

On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 7:30:54 AM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> In article <uik7df$fiv$1...@reader2.panix.com>,
> Keith F. Lynch <k...@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
> >ele...@optonline.net <evelynchim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Okay, I know that "The Birds" is alphabetized as "Birds, The" and "A
> >> Kiss Before Dying" is "Kiss Before Dying, A". I also believe that
> >> "El Conde Dracula" should be "Conde Dracula, El". Is "L'Avventura"
> >> "Avventura, L'" (with an apostrophe after the "L"?
> >
> >> And what about "Da 5 Bloods" (which is what started me on this train
> >> of thought)?
> >
> >When I really want to drive a perfectionist organizer mad, I give them
> >Ace doubles.
> They go in the special Ace Doubles section, indexed by number.

And the Tor Doubles; Belmont Doubles; Galaxy Doubles; Dell Doubles;
and books like SOMETIME, NEVER.

Of course, even the Ace Doubles have two numbering schemes: letter-dash-number,
and five-digit number. And the M series came between the F and the G series.

--
Evelyn C. Leeper

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 by: Robert Woodward - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 05:43 UTC

In article <uil7pr$1rs$1@panix2.panix.com>,
kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

> In article <uik7df$fiv$1@reader2.panix.com>,
> Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
> >eleeper@optonline.net <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Okay, I know that "The Birds" is alphabetized as "Birds, The" and "A
> >> Kiss Before Dying" is "Kiss Before Dying, A". I also believe that
> >> "El Conde Dracula" should be "Conde Dracula, El". Is "L'Avventura"
> >> "Avventura, L'" (with an apostrophe after the "L"?
> >
> >> And what about "Da 5 Bloods" (which is what started me on this train
> >> of thought)?
> >
> >When I really want to drive a perfectionist organizer mad, I give them
> >Ace doubles.
>
> They go in the special Ace Doubles section, indexed by number.
> --scott

But which side is the A side (i.e., cover upright) and which is the B
side?

--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
�-----------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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 by: Keith F. Lynch - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 18:45 UTC

Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
> kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>> They go in the special Ace Doubles section, indexed by number.

> But which side is the A side (i.e., cover upright) and which is the
> B side?

Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays the alphabetically first author is
the A side. Tuesdays and Thursdays the alpahbetically second author.
And on weekends the books are stored on their sides.

One advantage of this system is the books don't accumulate dust.
Another is that it gives you plenty of exercise. A third is that
it keeps you reminded of what books you have and where they are.
--
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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 by: Kevrob - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 18:36 UTC

On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 12:43:49 AM UTC-5, Robert Woodward wrote:
> In article <uil7pr$1rs$1...@panix2.panix.com>,
> klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>
> > In article <uik7df$fiv$1...@reader2.panix.com>,
> > Keith F. Lynch <k...@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
> > >ele...@optonline.net <evelynchim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Okay, I know that "The Birds" is alphabetized as "Birds, The" and "A
> > >> Kiss Before Dying" is "Kiss Before Dying, A". I also believe that
> > >> "El Conde Dracula" should be "Conde Dracula, El". Is "L'Avventura"
> > >> "Avventura, L'" (with an apostrophe after the "L"?
> > >
> > >> And what about "Da 5 Bloods" (which is what started me on this train
> > >> of thought)?
> > >
> > >When I really want to drive a perfectionist organizer mad, I give them
> > >Ace doubles.
> >
> > They go in the special Ace Doubles section, indexed by number.
> > --scott
> But which side is the A side (i.e., cover upright) and which is the B
> side?
>
> --
I have a vague memory of an LP or 45 rpm record where the clever
boys who put it out labeled one side "A" and the other "1."

Was there also a "this side/that side" marking for another?
I sold all my vinyl before I moved back East.

--
Kevin R

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 by: Keith F. Lynch - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:57 UTC

Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
> I have a vague memory of an LP or 45 rpm record where the clever
> boys who put it out labeled one side "A" and the other "1."

That reminds me of the British, whose buildings have a separate ground
floor and first floor.

> Was there also a "this side/that side" marking for another?

I've seen a card that on one side says to do what it says on the other
side. On the other side it says to disregard what it says on the
other side.

I once saw a sign that said "obey all signs." I've never seen
one that says "disobey all signs."
--
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 by: Keith F. Lynch - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 15:24 UTC

Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
> With a plot involving incest, desecration of a religious statue, and
> the Camorra, the Neapolitan equivalent of the Mafia, perhaps not a
> suitable opera for a ten-year old.

Only if the ten-year-old knows what's going on in the opera. Most
British and American children don't speak Italian.
--
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 by: Keith F. Lynch - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 16:54 UTC

Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
> kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch) wrote:
>> Only if the ten-year-old knows what's going on in the opera. Most
>> British and American children don't speak Italian.

> That's what surtitles are for.

Not many 78s (or even 33s) have surtitles.
--
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 by: Scott Dorsey - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 17:19 UTC

Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
>> With a plot involving incest, desecration of a religious statue, and
>> the Camorra, the Neapolitan equivalent of the Mafia, perhaps not a
>> suitable opera for a ten-year old.
>
>Only if the ten-year-old knows what's going on in the opera. Most
>British and American children don't speak Italian.

My grandmother would always narrate them in English for me. "This one is
about hippies... all the hippies in their apartment singing about how
they are cold and starving... and now here comes Rodolfo with cigarettes,
wood, and Bordeaux...."
--scott

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From: tppm@ca.rr.com (Tim Merrigan)
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 by: Tim Merrigan - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 20:11 UTC

On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 12:12 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) wrote:

>In article <uj3suc$akv$1@reader2.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
>Lynch) wrote:
>
>>
>> That reminds me of the British, whose buildings have a separate ground
>> floor and first floor.
>
>I think that's universal all over Europe.

And Asia (at least, I've heard they do that in Japan). America, I
suspect, may be the exception in that. (Like use of the metric
system.)
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 by: Scott Dorsey - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:45 UTC

Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <uj5ivq$cc2$1@panix2.panix.com>, kludge@panix.com (Scott
>Dorsey) wrote:
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>> My grandmother would always narrate them in English for me. "This
>> one is
>> about hippies... all the hippies in their apartment singing about how
>> they are cold and starving... and now here comes Rodolfo with
>> cigarettes,
>> wood, and Bordeaux...."
>
>At the start of the pandemic, English National Opera did a staging of
>that in the car park at Alexandra Palace in the north of London. Instead
>of an apartment, they appeared to be living in their vans. I saw it on
>TV. It was rather good.

Was Cafe Momus a chip house?
--scott

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