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"Doctor Who" Casting Director Responds To Criticism Of Race-Swapped Isaac Newton: "It's Sad That We're In A Time Where People Villainise Minorities"

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 by: Ubiquitous - Tue, 12 Dec 2023 15:05 UTC

According to Doctor Who casting director Andy Pryor, the backlash to the
series� race-swapping of real-world historical figure Sir Isaac Newton has
nothing to do with historical accuracy or a growing exhaustion with
identity-politics, but is instead based solely in � you guessed it � viewers�
own racist attitudes.

Taking place in Wild Blue Yonder, the second of three new Doctor Who holiday
specials helmed by returning showrunner Russell T Davies� and produced in
honor of the series� 60th anniversary, the historical revisionism in question
saw the real-world English physicist brought to life by half-Indian The
Witcher: Blood Origin actor Nathaniel Curtis, in doing so portraying him not
as the white man he provably was, but rather as someone of an unspecified
ethnic descent (despite his actor�s noted heritage, the episode never
specifically addresses the background of its race-swapped Newton).

Following the special�s premiere, Pryor provided insight into his subversive
casting decision during an interview with Digital Spy�s David Opie.

First broaching the topic after being met with praise from Opie for how well
he was able to keep Curtis� appearance a secret, the casting director
explained, �Because it�s a brief but important moment, you can get an actor
in and out quite quickly, with parts like that.�

�That was Russell�s idea, actually,� Pryor added. �We had talked about trying
to get Nathaniel in the show at some point and I think it�s a sort of rather
cheeky, but fun interpretation of Isaac Newton. You know, it�s not a
historical drama [Laughs]. Let�s just have some fun with it.�

�Nathaniel was very game,� he further recalled. �He�s a fan of the show. Such
a lovely guy, and he had a great time.�

From there, Opie then turned their discussion to how �there�s been backlash
from so-called �fans� of Doctor Who in regard to these particular castings,
that they�re too �woke�, for want of a better word,� subsequently asking the
casting director, �You�ve engaged a bit with this discussion online, but I
wondered if you had anything else to add on this response to castings such as
these?�

In turn, Pryor asserted, �It�s sad that we�re in a time where people
villainise minorities.�

�This sort of chatter, I�m very good at kind of tuning it out,� he told his
host. �And I�m also very, very happy to block people on Twitter. I don�t
really have any time for bigotry at all.�

Proceeding to broaden his argument, Pryor continued, �It then becomes even
more important to give people a voice and for people to be represented,
especially for young people growing up who might be trans or from any
minority. If they can see themselves on screen, then that can be a huge
lifeline for some people. That can make them feel part of the world, which
indeed they are.�

�Social media is a bit of a dangerous place because I think people get sucked
into saying things that I don�t know that they truly believe?� he questioned.
�It just becomes a game for them. Unfortunately, real life isn�t a game, and
I think it�s important to stand up for people who are marginalised.�

Pryor then declared, �Growing up as a gay man, I�m as aware as anybody else
of how this stuff makes you feel when you see it. How that negativity can
affect you. I don�t really think anyone should have to go through that.�

�It�s an important thing for me,� he said. �It�s an important thing for
Russell and the whole Doctor Who team.There are so many ways of telling a
story and the more you can introduce other ideas and other kinds of people,
the more exciting it is.�

Receiving subsequent praise from Opie regarding how the �show has always been
forward-thinking and progressive in that way, so it�s really nice that in
2023, Doctor Who can embody that now more than ever,� Pryor ultimately
concluded, �It always has been a show about people �outside of the norm�.
From day one, really. So, we�re just carrying that tradition on in a more
modern way.�

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 by: Truth Holder - Wed, 13 Dec 2023 22:08 UTC

Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
news:ulcsk0$uq1h$4@dont-email.me:

> According to Doctor Who casting director Andy Pryor, the backlash to
> the series� race-swapping of real-world historical figure Sir Isaac
> Newton has nothing to do with historical accuracy or a growing
> exhaustion with identity-politics, but is instead based solely in �
> you guessed it � viewers� own racist attitudes.
>
> Taking place in Wild Blue Yonder, the second of three new Doctor Who
> holiday specials helmed by returning showrunner Russell T Davies� and
> produced in honor of the series� 60th anniversary, the historical
> revisionism in question saw the real-world English physicist brought
> to life by half-Indian The Witcher: Blood Origin actor Nathaniel
> Curtis, in doing so portraying him not as the white man he provably
> was, but rather as someone of an unspecified ethnic descent (despite
> his actor�s noted heritage, the episode never specifically addresses
> the background of its race-swapped Newton).
>
> Following the special�s premiere, Pryor provided insight into his
> subversive casting decision during an interview with Digital Spy�s
> David Opie.
>
> First broaching the topic after being met with praise from Opie for
> how well he was able to keep Curtis� appearance a secret, the casting
> director explained, �Because it�s a brief but important moment, you
> can get an actor in and out quite quickly, with parts like that.�
>
> �That was Russell�s idea, actually,� Pryor added. �We had talked about
> trying to get Nathaniel in the show at some point and I think it�s a
> sort of rather cheeky, but fun interpretation of Isaac Newton. You
> know, it�s not a historical drama [Laughs]. Let�s just have some fun
> with it.�
>
> �Nathaniel was very game,� he further recalled. �He�s a fan of the
> show. Such a lovely guy, and he had a great time.�
>
> From there, Opie then turned their discussion to how �there�s been
> backlash from so-called �fans� of Doctor Who in regard to these
> particular castings, that they�re too �woke�, for want of a better
> word,� subsequently asking the casting director, �You�ve engaged a bit
> with this discussion online, but I wondered if you had anything else
> to add on this response to castings such as these?�
>
> In turn, Pryor asserted, �It�s sad that we�re in a time where people
> villainise minorities.�
>
> �This sort of chatter, I�m very good at kind of tuning it out,� he
> told his host. �And I�m also very, very happy to block people on
> Twitter. I don�t really have any time for bigotry at all.�
>
> Proceeding to broaden his argument, Pryor continued, �It then becomes
> even more important to give people a voice and for people to be
> represented, especially for young people growing up who might be trans
> or from any minority. If they can see themselves on screen, then that
> can be a huge lifeline for some people. That can make them feel part
> of the world, which indeed they are.�
>
> �Social media is a bit of a dangerous place because I think people get
> sucked into saying things that I don�t know that they truly believe?�
> he questioned. �It just becomes a game for them. Unfortunately, real
> life isn�t a game, and I think it�s important to stand up for people
> who are marginalised.�
>
> Pryor then declared, �Growing up as a gay man, I�m as aware as anybody
> else of how this stuff makes you feel when you see it. How that
> negativity can affect you. I don�t really think anyone should have to
> go through that.�
>
> �It�s an important thing for me,� he said. �It�s an important thing
> for Russell and the whole Doctor Who team.There are so many ways of
> telling a story and the more you can introduce other ideas and other
> kinds of people, the more exciting it is.�
>
> Receiving subsequent praise from Opie regarding how the �show has
> always been forward-thinking and progressive in that way, so it�s
> really nice that in 2023, Doctor Who can embody that now more than
> ever,� Pryor ultimately concluded, �It always has been a show about
> people �outside of the norm�. From day one, really. So, we�re just
> carrying that tradition on in a more modern way.�

That's quite an echo chamber they've got going there. They obviously
come from a school of thought that infantilizes minorities and
fetishizes anyone categorized as "marginalized".

(Note: I'm using the word fetish here in the broader sense. Most people
are unaware that it has a broader meaning beyond sexual, which is just
one type of fetish.)

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 14 Dec 2023 02:30 UTC

In article <ulcsk0$uq1h$4@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>According to Doctor Who casting director Andy Pryor, the backlash to the
>series� race-swapping of real-world historical figure Sir Isaac Newton has
>nothing to do with historical accuracy or a growing exhaustion with
>identity-politics, but is instead based solely in � you guessed it � viewers�
>own racist attitudes.
>
>Taking place in Wild Blue Yonder, the second of three new Doctor Who holiday
>specials helmed by returning showrunner Russell T Davies� and produced in
>honor of the series� 60th anniversary, the historical revisionism in question
>saw the real-world English physicist brought to life by half-Indian The
>Witcher: Blood Origin actor Nathaniel Curtis, in doing so portraying him not
>as the white man he provably was, but rather as someone of an unspecified
>ethnic descent (despite his actor�s noted heritage, the episode never
>specifically addresses the background of its race-swapped Newton).
>
>Following the special�s premiere, Pryor provided insight into his subversive
>casting decision during an interview with Digital Spy�s David Opie.
>
>First broaching the topic after being met with praise from Opie for how well
>he was able to keep Curtis� appearance a secret, the casting director
>explained, �Because it�s a brief but important moment, you can get an actor
>in and out quite quickly, with parts like that.�
>
>�That was Russell�s idea, actually,� Pryor added. �We had talked about trying
>to get Nathaniel in the show at some point and I think it�s a sort of rather
>cheeky, but fun interpretation of Isaac Newton. You know, it�s not a
>historical drama [Laughs]. Let�s just have some fun with it.�
>
>�Nathaniel was very game,� he further recalled. �He�s a fan of the show. Such
>a lovely guy, and he had a great time.�
>
>From there, Opie then turned their discussion to how �there�s been backlash
>from so-called �fans� of Doctor Who in regard to these particular castings,
>that they�re too �woke�, for want of a better word,� subsequently asking the
>casting director, �You�ve engaged a bit with this discussion online, but I
>wondered if you had anything else to add on this response to castings such as
>these?�
>
>In turn, Pryor asserted, �It�s sad that we�re in a time where people
>villainise minorities.�
>
>�This sort of chatter, I�m very good at kind of tuning it out,� he told his
>host. �And I�m also very, very happy to block people on Twitter. I don�t
>really have any time for bigotry at all.�
>
>Proceeding to broaden his argument, Pryor continued, �It then becomes even
>more important to give people a voice and for people to be represented,
>especially for young people growing up who might be trans or from any
>minority. If they can see themselves on screen, then that can be a huge
>lifeline for some people. That can make them feel part of the world, which
>indeed they are.�
>
>�Social media is a bit of a dangerous place because I think people get sucked
>into saying things that I don�t know that they truly believe?� he questioned.
>�It just becomes a game for them. Unfortunately, real life isn�t a game, and
>I think it�s important to stand up for people who are marginalised.�
>
>Pryor then declared, �Growing up as a gay man, I�m as aware as anybody else
>of how this stuff makes you feel when you see it. How that negativity can
>affect you. I don�t really think anyone should have to go through that.�
>
>�It�s an important thing for me,� he said. �It�s an important thing for
>Russell and the whole Doctor Who team.There are so many ways of telling a
>story and the more you can introduce other ideas and other kinds of people,
>the more exciting it is.�
>
>Receiving subsequent praise from Opie regarding how the �show has always been
>forward-thinking and progressive in that way, so it�s really nice that in
>2023, Doctor Who can embody that now more than ever,� Pryor ultimately
>concluded, �It always has been a show about people �outside of the norm�.
>From day one, really. So, we�re just carrying that tradition on in a more
>modern way.�
>

Illogical!!

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>Let's go Brandon!
>

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 14 Dec 2023 02:31 UTC

In article <ulda1g$1193c$1@dont-email.me>,
Truth Holder <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
>news:ulcsk0$uq1h$4@dont-email.me:
>
>> According to Doctor Who casting director Andy Pryor, the backlash to
>> the series� race-swapping of real-world historical figure Sir Isaac
>> Newton has nothing to do with historical accuracy or a growing
>> exhaustion with identity-politics, but is instead based solely in �
>> you guessed it � viewers� own racist attitudes.
>>
>> Taking place in Wild Blue Yonder, the second of three new Doctor Who
>> holiday specials helmed by returning showrunner Russell T Davies� and
>> produced in honor of the series� 60th anniversary, the historical
>> revisionism in question saw the real-world English physicist brought
>> to life by half-Indian The Witcher: Blood Origin actor Nathaniel
>> Curtis, in doing so portraying him not as the white man he provably
>> was, but rather as someone of an unspecified ethnic descent (despite
>> his actor�s noted heritage, the episode never specifically addresses
>> the background of its race-swapped Newton).
>>
>> Following the special�s premiere, Pryor provided insight into his
>> subversive casting decision during an interview with Digital Spy�s
>> David Opie.
>>
>> First broaching the topic after being met with praise from Opie for
>> how well he was able to keep Curtis� appearance a secret, the casting
>> director explained, �Because it�s a brief but important moment, you
>> can get an actor in and out quite quickly, with parts like that.�
>>
>> �That was Russell�s idea, actually,� Pryor added. �We had talked about
>> trying to get Nathaniel in the show at some point and I think it�s a
>> sort of rather cheeky, but fun interpretation of Isaac Newton. You
>> know, it�s not a historical drama [Laughs]. Let�s just have some fun
>> with it.�
>>
>> �Nathaniel was very game,� he further recalled. �He�s a fan of the
>> show. Such a lovely guy, and he had a great time.�
>>
>> From there, Opie then turned their discussion to how �there�s been
>> backlash from so-called �fans� of Doctor Who in regard to these
>> particular castings, that they�re too �woke�, for want of a better
>> word,� subsequently asking the casting director, �You�ve engaged a bit
>> with this discussion online, but I wondered if you had anything else
>> to add on this response to castings such as these?�
>>
>> In turn, Pryor asserted, �It�s sad that we�re in a time where people
>> villainise minorities.�
>>
>> �This sort of chatter, I�m very good at kind of tuning it out,� he
>> told his host. �And I�m also very, very happy to block people on
>> Twitter. I don�t really have any time for bigotry at all.�
>>
>> Proceeding to broaden his argument, Pryor continued, �It then becomes
>> even more important to give people a voice and for people to be
>> represented, especially for young people growing up who might be trans
>> or from any minority. If they can see themselves on screen, then that
>> can be a huge lifeline for some people. That can make them feel part
>> of the world, which indeed they are.�
>>
>> �Social media is a bit of a dangerous place because I think people get
>> sucked into saying things that I don�t know that they truly believe?�
>> he questioned. �It just becomes a game for them. Unfortunately, real
>> life isn�t a game, and I think it�s important to stand up for people
>> who are marginalised.�
>>
>> Pryor then declared, �Growing up as a gay man, I�m as aware as anybody
>> else of how this stuff makes you feel when you see it. How that
>> negativity can affect you. I don�t really think anyone should have to
>> go through that.�
>>
>> �It�s an important thing for me,� he said. �It�s an important thing
>> for Russell and the whole Doctor Who team.There are so many ways of
>> telling a story and the more you can introduce other ideas and other
>> kinds of people, the more exciting it is.�
>>
>> Receiving subsequent praise from Opie regarding how the �show has
>> always been forward-thinking and progressive in that way, so it�s
>> really nice that in 2023, Doctor Who can embody that now more than
>> ever,� Pryor ultimately concluded, �It always has been a show about
>> people �outside of the norm�. From day one, really. So, we�re just
>> carrying that tradition on in a more modern way.�
>
>That's quite an echo chamber they've got going there. They obviously
>come from a school of thought that infantilizes minorities and
>fetishizes anyone categorized as "marginalized".
>
>(Note: I'm using the word fetish here in the broader sense. Most people
>are unaware that it has a broader meaning beyond sexual, which is just
>one type of fetish.)
>

Or as The True Doctor would say: woke!
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 02:31:29 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
(The Doctor) wrote:

>
>Or as The True Doctor would say: woke!

I've been wanting to point this out to people using "woke" as a
negative for some time now: The opposite of woke is asleep.
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 by: The True Doctor - Thu, 14 Dec 2023 17:15 UTC

On 12/12/2023 15:05, Ubiquitous wrote:
> According to Doctor Who casting director Andy Pryor, the backlash to the
> series’ race-swapping of real-world historical figure Sir Isaac Newton has
> nothing to do with historical accuracy or a growing exhaustion with
> identity-politics, but is instead based solely in – you guessed it – viewers’
> own racist attitudes.

It's Andy Pryor that's the racist not the viewers. He's nothing more
than a bigoted racist woke cancel pig just like Squealer in Animal Farm
that thinks the entire audience it completely stupid.

> First broaching the topic after being met with praise from Opie for how well
> he was able to keep Curtis’ appearance a secret, the casting director
> explained, “Because it’s a brief but important moment, you can get an actor
> in and out quite quickly, with parts like that.”
>
> “That was Russell’s idea, actually,” Pryor added. “We had talked about trying
> to get Nathaniel in the show at some point and I think it’s a sort of rather
> cheeky, but fun interpretation of Isaac Newton. You know, it’s not a
> historical drama [Laughs]. Let’s just have some fun with it.”
>

So the two racist bigots conspired to conceal their racist casting for
as long as possible. Neither David Tennant of Catherine Tate were there
when the bigots filmed the racist scene either, but were added later via
CSO.

> “Nathaniel was very game,” he further recalled. “He’s a fan of the show. Such
> a lovely guy, and he had a great time.”
>
> From there, Opie then turned their discussion to how “there’s been backlash
> from so-called ‘fans’ of Doctor Who in regard to these particular castings,
> that they’re too ‘woke’, for want of a better word,” subsequently asking the
> casting director, “You’ve engaged a bit with this discussion online, but I
> wondered if you had anything else to add on this response to castings such as
> these?”
>
> In turn, Pryor asserted, “It’s sad that we’re in a time where people
> villainise minorities.”
>
> “This sort of chatter, I’m very good at kind of tuning it out,” he told his
> host. “And I’m also very, very happy to block people on Twitter. I don’t
> really have any time for bigotry at all.”

You're the bigot and also a hypocrite you racist cancel pig.

Who's the one villainising minorities? It's racist cancel pigs like you
and Russel T. Davies who made the Celestial Toymaker put on
exaggerations of foreign European accents and justified that by saying
that this made the Toymaker look evil. So to the degenerate woke retard
all foreign accents are evil, especially German, French, and American
ones, just like the retard also thinks that all wheelchair users are evil.

>
> Proceeding to broaden his argument, Pryor continued, “It then becomes even
> more important to give people a voice and for people to be represented,
> especially for young people growing up who might be trans or from an > minority. If they can see themselves on screen, then that can be a huge

Well I'm from a minority, where's my representation you fucking
degenerate woke hypocrite. Ah, you fucking sick racist cancel pigs took
it away from me by making Cleopatra, a Greek olive skinned historical
figure black. You fucking disgusting cancel pigs also took it away from
me by turning my mathematically proven biological second cousin Achilles
into a west sub-Saharan black African too, and also did that to my
mathematically proven third cousin Aeneas, in Troy: Fall of a City,
instead of making one blonde as he was described historically, and one
olive skinned, you fucking racist bigots. Where's my representation you
hypocritical racist scum?

Where am I seeing myself on screen?

You didn't even bother to cast any Greek, Cypriot, or Mediterranean
looking actors in any of the leading roles, but race swapped half the
characters.

> lifeline for some people. That can make them feel part of the world, which
> indeed they are.”

Make them feel part of the world? What fucking degenerate world are you
living on. A world where Isaac Newton was Indian and Hannibal was black?

Where the representation for Tunisians when racist bigots such as
yourself cast Denzel Washington to play a Carthaginian general of west
Semitic decent, like all Tunisians, who originated from Lebanon, instead
of having him look like themselves, olive skinned with Mediterranean
features, not west sub-Saharan African.

>
> “Social media is a bit of a dangerous place because I think people get sucked
> into saying things that I don’t know that they truly believe?” he questioned.
> “It just becomes a game for them. Unfortunately, real life isn’t a game, and
> I think it’s important to stand up for people who are marginalised.”
>

By taking representation way from people who are even more marginalized
you hypocritical woke racist cancel pig.

> Pryor then declared, “Growing up as a gay man, I’m as aware as anybody else

Ah, so it is now clear that Retard T. Davies is only hiring gay people
to work on Doctor Who and they will even change the ethnically of
historical figures so that their gay friends can play them, even if they
look nothing like them. What do we call that? Nepotism!

> of how this stuff makes you feel when you see it. How that negativity can
> affect you. I don’t really think anyone should have to go through that.”
>

Except you do, because you've already done it to others.

How do you think Indian people feel about being told to identify with
Isaac Newton who they know was clearly not of Indian decent in any way
shape of form, and not a real Indian scientist like Subrahmanyan
Chandrasekhar who far surpassed Newton in his discoveries and won a
Nobel Prize? They probably all feel disgusted and demeaned by your
ignorant insulting patronization.

> “It’s an important thing for me,” he said. “It’s an important thing for
> Russell and the whole Doctor Who team.There are so many ways of telling a
> story and the more you can introduce other ideas and other kinds of people,
> the more exciting it is.”
>
> Receiving subsequent praise from Opie regarding how the “show has always been
> forward-thinking and progressive in that way, so it’s really nice that in
> 2023, Doctor Who can embody that now more than ever,” Pryor ultimately
> concluded, “It always has been a show about people ‘outside of the norm’.
> From day one, really. So, we’re just carrying that tradition on in a more
> modern way.”

Doctor Who has been brought down to its knees by these nepotistic
hypocritical woke racists, and bigots who take from the disadvantaged
and have-nots to give even more to themselves, while preaching a false
message of equality and diversity like the woke cancel pigs from Animal
Farm. There's nothing forward thinking or progressive about their
ideology at all. In the end they are just exactly like the people they
previously condemned who they now aspire to be. Fucking RETARDS!

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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
stands for." -William Shatner

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 by: Ubiquitous - Thu, 14 Dec 2023 18:12 UTC

tppm@ca.rr.com wrote:
> (The Doctor) wrote:

>>Or as The True Doctor would say: woke!
>
>I've been wanting to point this out to people using "woke" as a
>negative for some time now: The opposite of woke is asleep.

Thank you, Captain Pendantic.

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doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in news:uldpe1$1fbn$4
@gallifrey.nk.ca:

> In article <ulda1g$1193c$1@dont-email.me>,
> Truth Holder <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
>>news:ulcsk0$uq1h$4@dont-email.me:
>>
>>That's quite an echo chamber they've got going there. They obviously
>>come from a school of thought that infantilizes minorities and
>>fetishizes anyone categorized as "marginalized".
>>
>>(Note: I'm using the word fetish here in the broader sense. Most people
>>are unaware that it has a broader meaning beyond sexual, which is just
>>one type of fetish.)
>>
>
> Or as The True Doctor would say: woke!

Get woke, go broke!

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doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in
news:uldpbo$1fbn$1@gallifrey.nk.ca:

> In article <ulcsk0$uq1h$4@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>According to Doctor Who casting director Andy Pryor, the backlash to
>>the series� race-swapping of real-world historical figure Sir Isaac
>>Newton has nothing to do with historical accuracy or a growing
>>exhaustion with identity-politics, but is instead based solely in �
>>you guessed it � viewers� own racist attitudes.
>>
>>Taking place in Wild Blue Yonder, the second of three new Doctor Who
>>holiday specials helmed by returning showrunner Russell T Davies� and
>>produced in honor of the series� 60th anniversary, the historical
>>revisionism in question saw the real-world English physicist brought
>>to life by half-Indian The Witcher: Blood Origin actor Nathaniel
>>Curtis, in doing so portraying him not as the white man he provably
>>was, but rather as someone of an unspecified ethnic descent (despite
>>his actor�s noted heritage, the episode never specifically addresses
>>the background of its race-swapped Newton).
>>
>>Following the special�s premiere, Pryor provided insight into his
>>subversive casting decision during an interview with Digital Spy�s
>>David Opie.
>>
>>First broaching the topic after being met with praise from Opie for
>>how well he was able to keep Curtis� appearance a secret, the casting
>>director explained, �Because it�s a brief but important moment, you
>>can get an actor in and out quite quickly, with parts like that.�
>>
>>�That was Russell�s idea, actually,� Pryor added. �We had talked about
>>trying to get Nathaniel in the show at some point and I think it�s a
>>sort of rather cheeky, but fun interpretation of Isaac Newton. You
>>know, it�s not a historical drama [Laughs]. Let�s just have some fun
>>with it.�
>>
>>�Nathaniel was very game,� he further recalled. �He�s a fan of the
>>show. Such a lovely guy, and he had a great time.�
>>
>>From there, Opie then turned their discussion to how �there�s been
>>backlash from so-called �fans� of Doctor Who in regard to these
>>particular castings, that they�re too �woke�, for want of a better
>>word,� subsequently asking the casting director, �You�ve engaged a bit
>>with this discussion online, but I wondered if you had anything else
>>to add on this response to castings such as these?�
>>
>>In turn, Pryor asserted, �It�s sad that we�re in a time where people
>>villainise minorities.�
>>
>>�This sort of chatter, I�m very good at kind of tuning it out,� he
>>told his host. �And I�m also very, very happy to block people on
>>Twitter. I don�t really have any time for bigotry at all.�
>>
>>Proceeding to broaden his argument, Pryor continued, �It then becomes
>>even more important to give people a voice and for people to be
>>represented, especially for young people growing up who might be trans
>>or from any minority. If they can see themselves on screen, then that
>>can be a huge lifeline for some people. That can make them feel part
>>of the world, which indeed they are.�
>>
>>�Social media is a bit of a dangerous place because I think people get
>>sucked into saying things that I don�t know that they truly believe?�
>>he questioned. �It just becomes a game for them. Unfortunately, real
>>life isn�t a game, and I think it�s important to stand up for people
>>who are marginalised.�
>>
>>Pryor then declared, �Growing up as a gay man, I�m as aware as anybody
>>else of how this stuff makes you feel when you see it. How that
>>negativity can affect you. I don�t really think anyone should have to
>>go through that.�
>>
>>�It�s an important thing for me,� he said. �It�s an important thing
>>for Russell and the whole Doctor Who team.There are so many ways of
>>telling a story and the more you can introduce other ideas and other
>>kinds of people, the more exciting it is.�
>>
>>Receiving subsequent praise from Opie regarding how the �show has
>>always been forward-thinking and progressive in that way, so it�s
>>really nice that in 2023, Doctor Who can embody that now more than
>>ever,� Pryor ultimately concluded, �It always has been a show about
>>people �outside of the norm�. From day one, really. So, we�re just
>>carrying that tradition on in a more modern way.�
>>
>
> Illogical!!

It probably makes sense if you have an advanced degree in underwater
basket weaving.

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Agent Jakanov wrote:

> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> >
> > Or as The True Doctor would say: woke!
>
> Get woke, go broke!

Or more appropriately: Get woke, shout at the kids!

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Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
news:ulcsk0$uq1h$4@dont-email.me:

> According to Doctor Who casting director Andy Pryor, the backlash to
> the series� race-swapping of real-world historical figure Sir Isaac
> Newton has nothing to do with historical accuracy or a growing
> exhaustion with identity-politics, but is instead based solely in �
> you guessed it � viewers� own racist attitudes.
>
> Taking place in Wild Blue Yonder, the second of three new Doctor Who
> holiday specials helmed by returning showrunner Russell T Davies� and
> produced in honor of the series� 60th anniversary, the historical
> revisionism in question saw the real-world English physicist brought
> to life by half-Indian The Witcher: Blood Origin actor Nathaniel
> Curtis, in doing so portraying him not as the white man he provably
> was, but rather as someone of an unspecified ethnic descent (despite
> his actor�s noted heritage, the episode never specifically addresses
> the background of its race-swapped Newton).
>
> Following the special�s premiere, Pryor provided insight into his
> subversive casting decision during an interview with Digital Spy�s
> David Opie.
>
> First broaching the topic after being met with praise from Opie for
> how well he was able to keep Curtis� appearance a secret, the casting
> director explained, �Because it�s a brief but important moment, you
> can get an actor in and out quite quickly, with parts like that.�
>
> �That was Russell�s idea, actually,� Pryor added. �We had talked about
> trying to get Nathaniel in the show at some point and I think it�s a
> sort of rather cheeky, but fun interpretation of Isaac Newton. You
> know, it�s not a historical drama [Laughs]. Let�s just have some fun
> with it.�
>
> �Nathaniel was very game,� he further recalled. �He�s a fan of the
> show. Such a lovely guy, and he had a great time.�
>
> From there, Opie then turned their discussion to how �there�s been
> backlash from so-called �fans� of Doctor Who in regard to these
> particular castings, that they�re too �woke�, for want of a better
> word,� subsequently asking the casting director, �You�ve engaged a bit
> with this discussion online, but I wondered if you had anything else
> to add on this response to castings such as these?�
>
> In turn, Pryor asserted, �It�s sad that we�re in a time where people
> villainise minorities.�
>
> �This sort of chatter, I�m very good at kind of tuning it out,� he
> told his host. �And I�m also very, very happy to block people on
> Twitter. I don�t really have any time for bigotry at all.�
>
> Proceeding to broaden his argument, Pryor continued, �It then becomes
> even more important to give people a voice and for people to be
> represented, especially for young people growing up who might be trans
> or from any minority. If they can see themselves on screen, then that
> can be a huge lifeline for some people. That can make them feel part
> of the world, which indeed they are.�
>
> �Social media is a bit of a dangerous place because I think people get
> sucked into saying things that I don�t know that they truly believe?�
> he questioned. �It just becomes a game for them. Unfortunately, real
> life isn�t a game, and I think it�s important to stand up for people
> who are marginalised.�
>
> Pryor then declared, �Growing up as a gay man, I�m as aware as anybody
> else of how this stuff makes you feel when you see it. How that
> negativity can affect you. I don�t really think anyone should have to
> go through that.�
>
> �It�s an important thing for me,� he said. �It�s an important thing
> for Russell and the whole Doctor Who team.There are so many ways of
> telling a story and the more you can introduce other ideas and other
> kinds of people, the more exciting it is.�
>
> Receiving subsequent praise from Opie regarding how the �show has
> always been forward-thinking and progressive in that way, so it�s
> really nice that in 2023, Doctor Who can embody that now more than
> ever,� Pryor ultimately concluded, �It always has been a show about
> people �outside of the norm�. From day one, really. So, we�re just
> carrying that tradition on in a more modern way.�

He sounds really gay.

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 14 Dec 2023 22:25 UTC

In article <g45mni55v031t525h6trpirio4jl748ire@4ax.com>,
Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 02:31:29 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>(The Doctor) wrote:
>
>>
>>Or as The True Doctor would say: woke!
>
>I've been wanting to point this out to people using "woke" as a
>negative for some time now: The opposite of woke is asleep.

Ha! HA!!

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 14 Dec 2023 22:26 UTC

In article <ulfd88$1ff0p$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 12/12/2023 15:05, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> According to Doctor Who casting director Andy Pryor, the backlash to the
>> series’ race-swapping of real-world historical figure Sir Isaac Newton has
>> nothing to do with historical accuracy or a growing exhaustion with
>> identity-politics, but is instead based solely in – you guessed it
>– viewers’
>> own racist attitudes.
>
>It's Andy Pryor that's the racist not the viewers. He's nothing more
>than a bigoted racist woke cancel pig just like Squealer in Animal Farm
>that thinks the entire audience it completely stupid.
>
>
>> First broaching the topic after being met with praise from Opie for how well
>> he was able to keep Curtis’ appearance a secret, the casting director
>> explained, “Because it’s a brief but important moment, you can
>get an actor
>> in and out quite quickly, with parts like that.”
>>
>> “That was Russell’s idea, actually,” Pryor added. “We had
>talked about trying
>> to get Nathaniel in the show at some point and I think it’s a sort
>of rather
>> cheeky, but fun interpretation of Isaac Newton. You know, it’s not a
>> historical drama [Laughs]. Let’s just have some fun with it.”
>>
>
>So the two racist bigots conspired to conceal their racist casting for
>as long as possible. Neither David Tennant of Catherine Tate were there
>when the bigots filmed the racist scene either, but were added later via
>CSO.
>
>> “Nathaniel was very game,” he further recalled. “He’s a fan
>of the show. Such
>> a lovely guy, and he had a great time.”
>>
>> From there, Opie then turned their discussion to how “there’s
>been backlash
>> from so-called ‘fans’ of Doctor Who in regard to these particular
>castings,
>> that they’re too ‘woke’, for want of a better word,”
>subsequently asking the
>> casting director, “You’ve engaged a bit with this discussion
>online, but I
>> wondered if you had anything else to add on this response to castings such as
>> these?”
>>
>> In turn, Pryor asserted, “It’s sad that we’re in a time where people
>> villainise minorities.”
>>
>> “This sort of chatter, I’m very good at kind of tuning it out,”
>he told his
>> host. “And I’m also very, very happy to block people on Twitter.
>I don’t
>> really have any time for bigotry at all.”
>
>You're the bigot and also a hypocrite you racist cancel pig.
>
>Who's the one villainising minorities? It's racist cancel pigs like you
>and Russel T. Davies who made the Celestial Toymaker put on
>exaggerations of foreign European accents and justified that by saying
>that this made the Toymaker look evil. So to the degenerate woke retard
>all foreign accents are evil, especially German, French, and American
>ones, just like the retard also thinks that all wheelchair users are evil.
>
>>
>> Proceeding to broaden his argument, Pryor continued, “It then becomes even
>> more important to give people a voice and for people to be represented,
>> especially for young people growing up who might be trans or from an
>> minority. If they can see themselves on screen, then that can be a
>huge
>
>Well I'm from a minority, where's my representation you fucking
>degenerate woke hypocrite. Ah, you fucking sick racist cancel pigs took
>it away from me by making Cleopatra, a Greek olive skinned historical
>figure black. You fucking disgusting cancel pigs also took it away from
>me by turning my mathematically proven biological second cousin Achilles
>into a west sub-Saharan black African too, and also did that to my
>mathematically proven third cousin Aeneas, in Troy: Fall of a City,
>instead of making one blonde as he was described historically, and one
>olive skinned, you fucking racist bigots. Where's my representation you
>hypocritical racist scum?
>
>Where am I seeing myself on screen?
>
>You didn't even bother to cast any Greek, Cypriot, or Mediterranean
>looking actors in any of the leading roles, but race swapped half the
>characters.
>
>> lifeline for some people. That can make them feel part of the world, which
>> indeed they are.”
>
>Make them feel part of the world? What fucking degenerate world are you
>living on. A world where Isaac Newton was Indian and Hannibal was black?
>
>Where the representation for Tunisians when racist bigots such as
>yourself cast Denzel Washington to play a Carthaginian general of west
>Semitic decent, like all Tunisians, who originated from Lebanon, instead
>of having him look like themselves, olive skinned with Mediterranean
>features, not west sub-Saharan African.
>
>>
>> “Social media is a bit of a dangerous place because I think people
>get sucked
>> into saying things that I don’t know that they truly believe?” he
>questioned.
>> “It just becomes a game for them. Unfortunately, real life isn’t
>a game, and
>> I think it’s important to stand up for people who are marginalised.”
>>
>
>By taking representation way from people who are even more marginalized
>you hypocritical woke racist cancel pig.
>
>> Pryor then declared, “Growing up as a gay man, I’m as aware as
>anybody else
>
>Ah, so it is now clear that Retard T. Davies is only hiring gay people
>to work on Doctor Who and they will even change the ethnically of
>historical figures so that their gay friends can play them, even if they
>look nothing like them. What do we call that? Nepotism!
>
>> of how this stuff makes you feel when you see it. How that negativity can
>> affect you. I don’t really think anyone should have to go through that.”
>>
>
>Except you do, because you've already done it to others.
>
>How do you think Indian people feel about being told to identify with
>Isaac Newton who they know was clearly not of Indian decent in any way
>shape of form, and not a real Indian scientist like Subrahmanyan
>Chandrasekhar who far surpassed Newton in his discoveries and won a
>Nobel Prize? They probably all feel disgusted and demeaned by your
>ignorant insulting patronization.
>
>> “It’s an important thing for me,” he said. “It’s an
>important thing for
>> Russell and the whole Doctor Who team.There are so many ways of telling a
>> story and the more you can introduce other ideas and other kinds of people,
>> the more exciting it is.”
>>
>> Receiving subsequent praise from Opie regarding how the “show has
>always been
>> forward-thinking and progressive in that way, so it’s really nice that in
>> 2023, Doctor Who can embody that now more than ever,” Pryor ultimately
>> concluded, “It always has been a show about people ‘outside of
>the norm’.
>> From day one, really. So, we’re just carrying that tradition on in a more
>> modern way.”
>
>Doctor Who has been brought down to its knees by these nepotistic
>hypocritical woke racists, and bigots who take from the disadvantaged
>and have-nots to give even more to themselves, while preaching a false
>message of equality and diversity like the woke cancel pigs from Animal
>Farm. There's nothing forward thinking or progressive about their
>ideology at all. In the end they are just exactly like the people they
>previously condemned who they now aspire to be. Fucking RETARDS!
>

So much brainwashing by wokery!

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 14 Dec 2023 22:26 UTC

In article <ulfgho$1fvq5$2@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>tppm@ca.rr.com wrote:
>> (The Doctor) wrote:
>
>>>Or as The True Doctor would say: woke!
>>
>>I've been wanting to point this out to people using "woke" as a
>>negative for some time now: The opposite of woke is asleep.
>
>Thank you, Captain Pendantic.
>

Stup!

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 14 Dec 2023 22:26 UTC

In article <ulfn3l$1gvqf$1@dont-email.me>,
Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in news:uldpe1$1fbn$4
>@gallifrey.nk.ca:
>
>> In article <ulda1g$1193c$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Truth Holder <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
>>>news:ulcsk0$uq1h$4@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>That's quite an echo chamber they've got going there. They obviously
>>>come from a school of thought that infantilizes minorities and
>>>fetishizes anyone categorized as "marginalized".
>>>
>>>(Note: I'm using the word fetish here in the broader sense. Most people
>>>are unaware that it has a broader meaning beyond sexual, which is just
>>>one type of fetish.)
>>>
>>
>> Or as The True Doctor would say: woke!
>
>Get woke, go broke!

Exactly!
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In article <ulfn98$1gvqf$2@dont-email.me>,
Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in
>news:uldpbo$1fbn$1@gallifrey.nk.ca:
>
>> In article <ulcsk0$uq1h$4@dont-email.me>,
>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>According to Doctor Who casting director Andy Pryor, the backlash to
>>>the series� race-swapping of real-world historical figure Sir Isaac
>>>Newton has nothing to do with historical accuracy or a growing
>>>exhaustion with identity-politics, but is instead based solely in �
>>>you guessed it � viewers� own racist attitudes.
>>>
>>>Taking place in Wild Blue Yonder, the second of three new Doctor Who
>>>holiday specials helmed by returning showrunner Russell T Davies� and
>>>produced in honor of the series� 60th anniversary, the historical
>>>revisionism in question saw the real-world English physicist brought
>>>to life by half-Indian The Witcher: Blood Origin actor Nathaniel
>>>Curtis, in doing so portraying him not as the white man he provably
>>>was, but rather as someone of an unspecified ethnic descent (despite
>>>his actor�s noted heritage, the episode never specifically addresses
>>>the background of its race-swapped Newton).
>>>
>>>Following the special�s premiere, Pryor provided insight into his
>>>subversive casting decision during an interview with Digital Spy�s
>>>David Opie.
>>>
>>>First broaching the topic after being met with praise from Opie for
>>>how well he was able to keep Curtis� appearance a secret, the casting
>>>director explained, �Because it�s a brief but important moment, you
>>>can get an actor in and out quite quickly, with parts like that.�
>>>
>>>�That was Russell�s idea, actually,� Pryor added. �We had talked about
>>>trying to get Nathaniel in the show at some point and I think it�s a
>>>sort of rather cheeky, but fun interpretation of Isaac Newton. You
>>>know, it�s not a historical drama [Laughs]. Let�s just have some fun
>>>with it.�
>>>
>>>�Nathaniel was very game,� he further recalled. �He�s a fan of the
>>>show. Such a lovely guy, and he had a great time.�
>>>
>>>From there, Opie then turned their discussion to how �there�s been
>>>backlash from so-called �fans� of Doctor Who in regard to these
>>>particular castings, that they�re too �woke�, for want of a better
>>>word,� subsequently asking the casting director, �You�ve engaged a bit
>>>with this discussion online, but I wondered if you had anything else
>>>to add on this response to castings such as these?�
>>>
>>>In turn, Pryor asserted, �It�s sad that we�re in a time where people
>>>villainise minorities.�
>>>
>>>�This sort of chatter, I�m very good at kind of tuning it out,� he
>>>told his host. �And I�m also very, very happy to block people on
>>>Twitter. I don�t really have any time for bigotry at all.�
>>>
>>>Proceeding to broaden his argument, Pryor continued, �It then becomes
>>>even more important to give people a voice and for people to be
>>>represented, especially for young people growing up who might be trans
>>>or from any minority. If they can see themselves on screen, then that
>>>can be a huge lifeline for some people. That can make them feel part
>>>of the world, which indeed they are.�
>>>
>>>�Social media is a bit of a dangerous place because I think people get
>>>sucked into saying things that I don�t know that they truly believe?�
>>>he questioned. �It just becomes a game for them. Unfortunately, real
>>>life isn�t a game, and I think it�s important to stand up for people
>>>who are marginalised.�
>>>
>>>Pryor then declared, �Growing up as a gay man, I�m as aware as anybody
>>>else of how this stuff makes you feel when you see it. How that
>>>negativity can affect you. I don�t really think anyone should have to
>>>go through that.�
>>>
>>>�It�s an important thing for me,� he said. �It�s an important thing
>>>for Russell and the whole Doctor Who team.There are so many ways of
>>>telling a story and the more you can introduce other ideas and other
>>>kinds of people, the more exciting it is.�
>>>
>>>Receiving subsequent praise from Opie regarding how the �show has
>>>always been forward-thinking and progressive in that way, so it�s
>>>really nice that in 2023, Doctor Who can embody that now more than
>>>ever,� Pryor ultimately concluded, �It always has been a show about
>>>people �outside of the norm�. From day one, really. So, we�re just
>>>carrying that tradition on in a more modern way.�
>>>
>>
>> Illogical!!
>
>It probably makes sense if you have an advanced degree in underwater
>basket weaving.

LOL!
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Re: "Doctor Who" Casting Director Responds To Criticism Of Race-Swapped Isaac Newton: "It's Sad That We're In A Time Where People Villainise Minorities"

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In article <ulfnu7$1gvqf$5@dont-email.me>,
Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
>news:ulcsk0$uq1h$4@dont-email.me:
>
>> According to Doctor Who casting director Andy Pryor, the backlash to
>> the series� race-swapping of real-world historical figure Sir Isaac
>> Newton has nothing to do with historical accuracy or a growing
>> exhaustion with identity-politics, but is instead based solely in �
>> you guessed it � viewers� own racist attitudes.
>>
>> Taking place in Wild Blue Yonder, the second of three new Doctor Who
>> holiday specials helmed by returning showrunner Russell T Davies� and
>> produced in honor of the series� 60th anniversary, the historical
>> revisionism in question saw the real-world English physicist brought
>> to life by half-Indian The Witcher: Blood Origin actor Nathaniel
>> Curtis, in doing so portraying him not as the white man he provably
>> was, but rather as someone of an unspecified ethnic descent (despite
>> his actor�s noted heritage, the episode never specifically addresses
>> the background of its race-swapped Newton).
>>
>> Following the special�s premiere, Pryor provided insight into his
>> subversive casting decision during an interview with Digital Spy�s
>> David Opie.
>>
>> First broaching the topic after being met with praise from Opie for
>> how well he was able to keep Curtis� appearance a secret, the casting
>> director explained, �Because it�s a brief but important moment, you
>> can get an actor in and out quite quickly, with parts like that.�
>>
>> �That was Russell�s idea, actually,� Pryor added. �We had talked about
>> trying to get Nathaniel in the show at some point and I think it�s a
>> sort of rather cheeky, but fun interpretation of Isaac Newton. You
>> know, it�s not a historical drama [Laughs]. Let�s just have some fun
>> with it.�
>>
>> �Nathaniel was very game,� he further recalled. �He�s a fan of the
>> show. Such a lovely guy, and he had a great time.�
>>
>> From there, Opie then turned their discussion to how �there�s been
>> backlash from so-called �fans� of Doctor Who in regard to these
>> particular castings, that they�re too �woke�, for want of a better
>> word,� subsequently asking the casting director, �You�ve engaged a bit
>> with this discussion online, but I wondered if you had anything else
>> to add on this response to castings such as these?�
>>
>> In turn, Pryor asserted, �It�s sad that we�re in a time where people
>> villainise minorities.�
>>
>> �This sort of chatter, I�m very good at kind of tuning it out,� he
>> told his host. �And I�m also very, very happy to block people on
>> Twitter. I don�t really have any time for bigotry at all.�
>>
>> Proceeding to broaden his argument, Pryor continued, �It then becomes
>> even more important to give people a voice and for people to be
>> represented, especially for young people growing up who might be trans
>> or from any minority. If they can see themselves on screen, then that
>> can be a huge lifeline for some people. That can make them feel part
>> of the world, which indeed they are.�
>>
>> �Social media is a bit of a dangerous place because I think people get
>> sucked into saying things that I don�t know that they truly believe?�
>> he questioned. �It just becomes a game for them. Unfortunately, real
>> life isn�t a game, and I think it�s important to stand up for people
>> who are marginalised.�
>>
>> Pryor then declared, �Growing up as a gay man, I�m as aware as anybody
>> else of how this stuff makes you feel when you see it. How that
>> negativity can affect you. I don�t really think anyone should have to
>> go through that.�
>>
>> �It�s an important thing for me,� he said. �It�s an important thing
>> for Russell and the whole Doctor Who team.There are so many ways of
>> telling a story and the more you can introduce other ideas and other
>> kinds of people, the more exciting it is.�
>>
>> Receiving subsequent praise from Opie regarding how the �show has
>> always been forward-thinking and progressive in that way, so it�s
>> really nice that in 2023, Doctor Who can embody that now more than
>> ever,� Pryor ultimately concluded, �It always has been a show about
>> people �outside of the norm�. From day one, really. So, we�re just
>> carrying that tradition on in a more modern way.�
>
>He sounds really gay.

Who? RTD?
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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 14 Dec 2023 22:35 UTC

In article <nnd$635beb42$78686e5a@ee48647c938f3b08>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Agent Jakanov wrote:
>
>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> >
>> > Or as The True Doctor would say: woke!
>>
>> Get woke, go broke!
>
>Or more appropriately: Get woke, shout at the kids!

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