At my annual medicare assessment (in 2020 they discovered that they
could do these interviews by phone, to the great convenience of all
concerned) the nurse asked whether I had a walk-in shower, then a few
hours later I checked into Facebook to be confronted by an
advertisement for an amazingly-cheap "walk-in shower" that could be
installed in only one day.

I've never seen a shower that wasn't walk in. What are these folks on
about?

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at centurylink dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

On 12/15/2023 9:10 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
>
> At my annual medicare assessment (in 2020 they discovered that they
> could do these interviews by phone, to the great convenience of all
> concerned) the nurse asked whether I had a walk-in shower, then a few
> hours later I checked into Facebook to be confronted by an
> advertisement for an amazingly-cheap "walk-in shower" that could be
> installed in only one day.
>
> I've never seen a shower that wasn't walk in. What are these folks on
> about?
>
That's a shower only, no tub, so that you're not stepping into the tub.
Like this:

https://images.thdstatic.com/productImages/2c433fc9-5e5d-4398-a955-e118337a5124/svn/white-sterling-shower-stalls-kits-72290106-0-64_600.jpg

Not like this:

https://www.bestbathshowroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/4RTS6030.V2.png

On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 22:10:00 -0500, Joy Beeson
<jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:

>
>At my annual medicare assessment (in 2020 they discovered that they
>could do these interviews by phone, to the great convenience of all
>concerned) the nurse asked whether I had a walk-in shower, then a few
>hours later I checked into Facebook to be confronted by an
>advertisement for an amazingly-cheap "walk-in shower" that could be
>installed in only one day.
>
>I've never seen a shower that wasn't walk in. What are these folks on
>about?

Well, my shower is a combined bathtub and shower, so I have to step
over the side of the bathtub to get into the shower, but yeah…

Maybe they're confusing with walk in bathtubs.
--

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In article <265qni5up9v4fc2vpdasu90no2g1t01vlh@4ax.com>,
Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>At my annual medicare assessment (in 2020 they discovered that they
>could do these interviews by phone, to the great convenience of all
>concerned) the nurse asked whether I had a walk-in shower, then a few
>hours later I checked into Facebook to be confronted by an
>advertisement for an amazingly-cheap "walk-in shower" that could be
>installed in only one day.
>
>I've never seen a shower that wasn't walk in. What are these folks on
>about?

[Hal Heydt]
I'd be more concerned about HIPAA violations. How did whoever
call you know you didn't have one, right after discussing the
issue with a health care provider?

As for what it is... They may mean one with no lip at entry.
I've seen such things in hotels where a room is specified for
wheelchair accessibility.

On 12/20/2023 11:25 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <265qni5up9v4fc2vpdasu90no2g1t01vlh@4ax.com>,
> Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> At my annual medicare assessment (in 2020 they discovered that they
>> could do these interviews by phone, to the great convenience of all
>> concerned) the nurse asked whether I had a walk-in shower, then a few
>> hours later I checked into Facebook to be confronted by an
>> advertisement for an amazingly-cheap "walk-in shower" that could be
>> installed in only one day.
>>
>> I've never seen a shower that wasn't walk in. What are these folks on
>> about?
>
> [Hal Heydt]
> I'd be more concerned about HIPAA violations. How did whoever
> call you know you didn't have one, right after discussing the
> issue with a health care provider?
>
> As for what it is... They may mean one with no lip at entry.
> I've seen such things in hotels where a room is specified for
> wheelchair accessibility.

Our new house has both tub and walk-in shower. Having both or just a
walk-in shower in the master[1] bedroom in new homes has been pretty
common around here (southwest Texas) for probably a decade, outside of
starter homes.

[1]excuse me, en-suite.

On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 11:53:31 AM UTC-5, Jay E. Morris wrote:
> On 12/20/2023 11:25 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> > In article <265qni5up9v4fc2vp...@4ax.com>,
> > Joy Beeson <jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> At my annual medicare assessment (in 2020 they discovered that they
> >> could do these interviews by phone, to the great convenience of all
> >> concerned) the nurse asked whether I had a walk-in shower, then a few
> >> hours later I checked into Facebook to be confronted by an
> >> advertisement for an amazingly-cheap "walk-in shower" that could be
> >> installed in only one day.
> >>
> >> I've never seen a shower that wasn't walk in. What are these folks on
> >> about?
> >
> > [Hal Heydt]
> > I'd be more concerned about HIPAA violations. How did whoever
> > call you know you didn't have one, right after discussing the
> > issue with a health care provider?
> >
> > As for what it is... They may mean one with no lip at entry.
> > I've seen such things in hotels where a room is specified for
> > wheelchair accessibility.
> Our new house has both tub and walk-in shower. Having both or just a
> walk-in shower in the master[1] bedroom in new homes has been pretty
> common around here (southwest Texas) for probably a decade, outside of
> starter homes.
>
> [1]excuse me, en-suite.

As I understand it, a quarter-bath has a toilet but nothing else, a half-bath a toilet
and a sink, and a three-quarter bath a toilet, a sink, and a shower stall. My
parents' house, built in the 1950s, had a three-quarter bath off the master bedroom,
and it was by no means an upscale house. (They paid $17,500 in 1964; adjusted for
inflation that would be $168,089 in 2023.)

--
Evelyn C. Leeper

On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 12:02 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) wrote:

> In article <5fd4c2cd-0046-4e89-916a-1184c100a914n@googlegroups.com>,
> evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com () wrote:
>
> > As I understand it, a quarter-bath has a toilet but nothing else, a
> > half-bath a toilet and a sink, and a three-quarter bath a toilet, a
> > sink, and a shower stall. My parents' house, built in the 1950s, had
> > a three-quarter bath off the master bedroom, and it was by no means
> > an upscale house. (They paid $17,500 in 1964; adjusted for inflation
> > that would be $168,089 in 2023.)
>
> And then there is the thing that in the UK (and equivalent in other
> European countries) a bathroom is a room with a bath in it, but not
> necessarily a toilet. Indeed, a house my family lived in from the
> sixties had two toilets, one upstairs, one downstairs, but no bath in
> either. There was a separate room with a bath and a washbasin. (And
> eventually, my parents added a shower to the bath.)
>
> Lynne Murphy in The Prodigal Tongue, an examination of the differences
> between British and American English, tells of seeing a guide at a museum
> in London refusing to answer the question from an American tourist,
> "Where is the bathroom?" until they actually asked for the toilet. And
> when I was trying to learn German on Duolingo, an American complained it
> wouldn't take Badzimmer as a translation of toilet.

Zimmer badly framed?

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 13:13 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) wrote:

> In article <20231222120319.1f2cb9d04a10ecfc9cacf83d@127.0.0.1>,
> admin@127.0.0.1 (Kerr-Mudd, John) wrote:
>
> >
> > Zimmer badly framed?
>
> Sorry, missed a letter - Badezimmer.

I missed that! - I was just throwing in a bit of wordplay.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On 12/22/23 7:02 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:

> Lynne Murphy in The Prodigal Tongue, an examination of the differences
> between British and American English, tells of seeing a guide at a museum
> in London refusing to answer the question from an American tourist,
> "Where is the bathroom?" until they actually asked for the toilet. And
> when I was trying to learn German on Duolingo, an American complained it
> wouldn't take Badzimmer as a translation of toilet.

I tried Duolingo for a few hours before deciding it sucks. My favorite
language-learning site these days is Lingolia.

As for Badezimmer, I think of it as a bathroom in a house. A toilet in a
public facility would be "Klo" or "Toilette."

Disclaimer: Non-native speaker of German.

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

On 12/22/23 11:37 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:

>
>
> I plateaued fairly quickly on German and could not have a conversation in
> it. My point was that there seems to be something of a stigma in the US
> of referring to a room with a toilet in it being called a toilet. And as
> I said, it's not uncommon in the UK to have a room with just a toilet
> bowl in it.

When our German language group at the library had a change of location
for this week's meeting, I explained that the room we'd be in was
"hinter den Toiletten" (behind the toilets), then immediately realized
how that sounded even though it was accurate.

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
> I tried Duolingo for a few hours before deciding it sucks.
> My favorite language-learning site these days is Lingolia.

There's a YouTube channel called Xiaomanyc, by a white American who
likes to visit ethnic enclaves and start chatting with people in their
own language, the more obscure the better. The channel is to tout his
own language-learning software.

My favorite of his videos is one where he ran into a Chinese YouTuber
in NYC whose gimmick is to start talking in Chinese to random white
people to see what they'll do. Hijinks ensued.
--
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Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

eleeper@optonline.net <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
> My parents' house, built in the 1950s, had a three-quarter bath off
> the master bedroom, and it was by no means an upscale house. (They
> paid $17,500 in 1964; adjusted for inflation that would be $168,089
> in 2023.)

Presumably it's actually worth far more than $168,089 today, meaning
that the official inflation rate is an enormous underestimate.

There was an article in today's Washington Post pointing out that
rates of homelessness are way up, and that homeless people are no
longer majority mentally ill or addicted. Most of them were just
squeezed out by rents increasing much faster than wages.
--
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Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

Hal Heydt wrote:
> Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>> I've never seen a shower that wasn't walk in. What are these folks
>> on about?

> They may mean one with no lip at entry. I've seen such things in
> hotels where a room is specified for wheelchair accessibility.

Wouldn't that be a roll-in shower?

Are wheelchairs typically waterproof?
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On 12/21/2023 11:05 PM, eleeper@optonline.net wrote:
> On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 11:53:31 AM UTC-5, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>> On 12/20/2023 11:25 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> In article <265qni5up9v4fc2vp...@4ax.com>,
>>> Joy Beeson <jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> At my annual medicare assessment (in 2020 they discovered that they
>>>> could do these interviews by phone, to the great convenience of all
>>>> concerned) the nurse asked whether I had a walk-in shower, then a few
>>>> hours later I checked into Facebook to be confronted by an
>>>> advertisement for an amazingly-cheap "walk-in shower" that could be
>>>> installed in only one day.
>>>>
>>>> I've never seen a shower that wasn't walk in. What are these folks on
>>>> about?
>>>
>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>> I'd be more concerned about HIPAA violations. How did whoever
>>> call you know you didn't have one, right after discussing the
>>> issue with a health care provider?
>>>
>>> As for what it is... They may mean one with no lip at entry.
>>> I've seen such things in hotels where a room is specified for
>>> wheelchair accessibility.
>> Our new house has both tub and walk-in shower. Having both or just a
>> walk-in shower in the master[1] bedroom in new homes has been pretty
>> common around here (southwest Texas) for probably a decade, outside of
>> starter homes.
>>
>> [1]excuse me, en-suite.
>
> As I understand it, a quarter-bath has a toilet but nothing else, a half-bath a toilet
> and a sink, and a three-quarter bath a toilet, a sink, and a shower stall. My
> parents' house, built in the 1950s, had a three-quarter bath off the master bedroom,
> and it was by no means an upscale house. (They paid $17,500 in 1964; adjusted for
> inflation that would be $168,089 in 2023.)
>
> --
> Evelyn C. Leeper

That was probably a fiberglass surround. Now days they're frequently
marble or tile. The picture I linked to earlier would be mid-level.
This would be more upscale.
https://media.angi.com/s3fs-public/walk-in-shower-ideas-walk-in-shower-room.jpeg

On 2023-12-16, Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> At my annual medicare assessment (in 2020 they discovered that they
> could do these interviews by phone, to the great convenience of all
> concerned) the nurse asked whether I had a walk-in shower, then a few
> hours later I checked into Facebook to be confronted by an
> advertisement for an amazingly-cheap "walk-in shower" that could be
> installed in only one day.
>
> I've never seen a shower that wasn't walk in. What are these folks on
> about?
>
The usual adaptation for UK showers is to turn the bathroom into a wet-room.
Tile the whole floor and install a drain flush with the floor surface. There is no
shower tray required. It doesn't need a shower-curtain either. Presumably
the floor slopes down to the drain at its lowest point.

--
Bernard Peek
bap@shrdlu.com
Wigan

Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>eleeper@optonline.net <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My parents' house, built in the 1950s, had a three-quarter bath off
>> the master bedroom, and it was by no means an upscale house. (They
>> paid $17,500 in 1964; adjusted for inflation that would be $168,089
>> in 2023.)
>
>Presumably it's actually worth far more than $168,089 today, meaning
>that the official inflation rate is an enormous underestimate.

This may be true, although the price for a small three-bedroom house
in this town isn't much more than that these days.

However, although the price for housing has increased far faster than
inflation, the price for food has not increased anywhere near as much
as inflation. In the fifties, food was often the largest expense in
a family budget, whereas today it is usually housing (or medical expenses).

>There was an article in today's Washington Post pointing out that
>rates of homelessness are way up, and that homeless people are no
>longer majority mentally ill or addicted. Most of them were just
>squeezed out by rents increasing much faster than wages.

A lot of this is because rental houses that used to be owned by independent
landlords are now being bought up by real estate investment trusts which
basically optimize everything for maximum return. There are many apartment
buildings in NYC which are completely empty because the reit that runs them
can't rent them out at market rate, and if they rented them below market it
would reduce the value of their other properties.

The rental problem is less the consequence of the housing shortage as a
consequence of direct market manipulation.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

On 12/23/23 9:42 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:

>> There was an article in today's Washington Post pointing out that
>> rates of homelessness are way up, and that homeless people are no
>> longer majority mentally ill or addicted. Most of them were just
>> squeezed out by rents increasing much faster than wages.
>
> A lot of this is because rental houses that used to be owned by independent
> landlords are now being bought up by real estate investment trusts which
> basically optimize everything for maximum return. There are many apartment
> buildings in NYC which are completely empty because the reit that runs them
> can't rent them out at market rate, and if they rented them below market it
> would reduce the value of their other properties.
>
> The rental problem is less the consequence of the housing shortage as a
> consequence of direct market manipulation.

Direct market manipulation doesn't get anyone far when there are many
participants, as there used to be in the housing market. I think a lot
of small landlords have been scared out of the market. Two years ago I
couldn't occupy the home I now live in for several months, because the
existing tenant's lease had to run out. With the COVID rules, I was
constantly scared she'd decide not to pay, and there would be little I
could do about it. Nothing bad actually happened, but I hope I'll never
have to rent out a property again.

It's similar to what happens in a lot of businesses, where running one
on a small scale is nerve-wracking and unrewarding. Bigger, more
impersonal owners come to dominate the market.

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
> Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>> Presumably it's actually worth far more than $168,089 today,
>> meaning that the official inflation rate is an enormous
>> underestimate.

> This may be true, although the price for a small three-bedroom
> house in this town isn't much more than that these days.

What town is that?

> However, although the price for housing has increased far faster
> than inflation, the price for food has not increased anywhere near
> as much as inflation. In the fifties, food was often the largest
> expense in a family budget, whereas today it is usually housing
> (or medical expenses).

Food inflation may be relatively small averaged over all the decades
since the 1950s, but I think it's relatively high over the past decade
or two. I'm spending about twice as much on food as I did at the turn
of the century, and I'm certainly not eating twice as much, nor am I
eating a higher grade of food.

I'm eating a lot less cereal. Cereals that were about $2 a box in
2000 are now often about $6 a box. I wish I knew why. Has there been
a massive crop failure? Or are corn and other grains mostly going to
make "green" car fuel rather than to feed people or animals?

> A lot of this is because rental houses that used to be owned by
> independent landlords are now being bought up by real estate
> investment trusts which basically optimize everything for maximum
> return. There are many apartment buildings in NYC which are
> completely empty because the reit that runs them can't rent them
> out at market rate, and if they rented them below market it would
> reduce the value of their other properties.

Maybe in NYC, but around here there are few vacant houses or
apartments. I also don't see how the price-demand curves can be such
that vacancies benefit landlords.

> The rental problem is less the consequence of the housing shortage
> as a consequence of direct market manipulation.

I'm hoping that this will be mitigated by the replacement of surplus
office buildings with apartments, now that more people are working
from home. For instance the office building I was falsely convicted
of burglarizing nearly half a century ago was demolished this year,
to use the land for apartments.

But inflation isn't just concentrated on housing and medical care.
Schooling (from infant day care through university), legal services
(a good felony defense costs more than a house), construction (the
new Yankee Stadium cost a thousand times the old one, and seats fewer
spectators) and maintenance are also increasingly unaffordable.

Speaking of stadia, Virginia just agreed to spend billions of taxpayer
dollars on two new sports facilities. And they're not even for football
or baseball (they're for hockey and basketball). I can't see why tax
money should ever pay anything for sports. The sports fans should pay.

The DC Metrorail system is once again demanding higher fares and
higher subsidies, and once again threatening to cut service to the
bone if they don't get everything they want. I wish someone would
call their bluff. Fire them all and start over with people who are
more competent and less greedy.
--
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
>> Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>>> Presumably it's actually worth far more than $168,089 today,
>>> meaning that the official inflation rate is an enormous
>>> underestimate.
>
>> This may be true, although the price for a small three-bedroom
>> house in this town isn't much more than that these days.
>
>What town is that?

Williamsburg, Virgina. You get farther out into rural areas and houses
get much cheaper too. In downtown Richmond they are far more expensive.

The problem in Williamsburg is that all of the new houses are these
giant cardboard mansions that are designed for the retirees who are
moving into town. They are huge houses that are much more expensive
than typical housing in the area, and built to fall apart after a few
years.

>> However, although the price for housing has increased far faster
>> than inflation, the price for food has not increased anywhere near
>> as much as inflation. In the fifties, food was often the largest
>> expense in a family budget, whereas today it is usually housing
>> (or medical expenses).
>
>Food inflation may be relatively small averaged over all the decades
>since the 1950s, but I think it's relatively high over the past decade
>or two. I'm spending about twice as much on food as I did at the turn
>of the century, and I'm certainly not eating twice as much, nor am I
>eating a higher grade of food.

It has been relatively high in the past five years or so, yes. But
food still doesn't make up anywhere near the percentage of the household
budget than it used to.

And there are plenty of other things... used to be a color TV set was
a few week's wages, now color TV sets are so cheap that burglars do not
even bother with them.

>> A lot of this is because rental houses that used to be owned by
>> independent landlords are now being bought up by real estate
>> investment trusts which basically optimize everything for maximum
>> return. There are many apartment buildings in NYC which are
>> completely empty because the reit that runs them can't rent them
>> out at market rate, and if they rented them below market it would
>> reduce the value of their other properties.
>
>Maybe in NYC, but around here there are few vacant houses or
>apartments. I also don't see how the price-demand curves can be such
>that vacancies benefit landlords.

Don't know about NoVa but there are a lot of vacant apartments in NW DC.
Not so much in SE. They aren't for rent at any price.

>> The rental problem is less the consequence of the housing shortage
>> as a consequence of direct market manipulation.
>
>I'm hoping that this will be mitigated by the replacement of surplus
>office buildings with apartments, now that more people are working
>from home. For instance the office building I was falsely convicted
>of burglarizing nearly half a century ago was demolished this year,
>to use the land for apartments.

This is a good thing, but if the apartments aren't available at a fair
price, or aren't available at all, it doesn't matter.

>But inflation isn't just concentrated on housing and medical care.
>Schooling (from infant day care through university), legal services
>(a good felony defense costs more than a house), construction (the
>new Yankee Stadium cost a thousand times the old one, and seats fewer
>spectators) and maintenance are also increasingly unaffordable.

I agree with some of these, and I point out that schooling is the thing
that most should be subsidized in that the people who need it are not
the people who can make financial decisions about it.

Maintenance is interesting... maintenance is expensive, but maintenance
is sure a lot cheaper than repairs. Unfortunately a lot of people do not
seem to understand this (and certainly my father did not).

>The DC Metrorail system is once again demanding higher fares and
>higher subsidies, and once again threatening to cut service to the
>bone if they don't get everything they want. I wish someone would
>call their bluff. Fire them all and start over with people who are
>more competent and less greedy.

I will say that they are actually trying to fix the system, but what they
are dealing with is a system that has not been getting proper maintenance
for many decades. As pointed out maintenance is much cheaper than
repairs. They are now attempting to do repairs on a system which is in
use, often with staff which is extremely reluctant to actually get repairs
done. It's bad, but I actually see people doing track repairs instead of
sitting around smoking crack and staring at the damaged track section north
of Takoma Park which has been unsafe for so many years.

My question is that once they have things to the point where the system is
working again, what are they going to do to keep it that way?
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
> I will say that they are actually trying to fix the system, but what
> they are dealing with is a system that has not been getting proper
> maintenance for many decades.

Horseshit. They first made that claim 30 years ago. It may have been
true then, but intensive maintenance has been going on non-stop ever
since. It's been so intensive that thousands of people who were
dependent on Metro were forced into early retirement or compelled
to flee the DC area. And yet the system keeps getting worse, with
frequent track fires, derailments, wheels falling off, rail cars
coming detached while in motion, etc.

Automated train operation was "temporarily" suspended after it caused
a fatal collision. That was 14 years ago and it's still suspended.

As for the loose wheels, they've apparently also given up on trying
to find, much less fix, the cause. Instead they're doing frequent
inspections of all the wheels, in perpetuity.

Similarly, when the new Silver Line stations were found to have rotten
concrete, they didn't fix them, they coated them, figuring that they'd
probably be good enough so long as they stayed dry. This will require
frequent inspections of the coatings, which in turn will require
dismantling stuff to get a good view.

It's not a transportation system, it's a jobs program and a lucrative
source of grift, which can occasionally be used for transportation.

It's also a fetish object for politicians to pose in front of to boast
of how green they are, for having voted to spend billions of dollars
or other people's money to keep the grift going.
--
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Keith F. Lynch <kfl@keithlynch.net> wrote:
> Hal Heydt wrote:
>> Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>>> I've never seen a shower that wasn't walk in. What are these folks
>>> on about?
>
>> They may mean one with no lip at entry. I've seen such things in
>> hotels where a room is specified for wheelchair accessibility.
>
> Wouldn't that be a roll-in shower?

Yes...a walk-in shower has a raised lip a few inches high, has no door, is
usually larger than a "regular" shower or shower-tub and sometimes has
built-in seating and safety handles. A roll-in lacks the lip.

> Are wheelchairs typically waterproof?

There are shower wheelchairs. They're usually made of PVC and aren't as
sturdy so they're not suitable for all-around use. My father's room at the
assisted living facility had a roll-in shower...they used it and a shower
wheelchair to bathe him.

Robert
--
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