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Re: Doctor Who's Davros reinvention is crucial for disabled fans

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 by: Your Name - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 20:21 UTC

On 2023-11-29 11:19:43 +0000, Blueshirt said:
> Daniel65 wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
>>> In article <xn0o9vkyxdpqb62000@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something
>>>> about the Disney version of it... as that is another one of your
>>>> favourite broken records. But for once, it's something that you
>>>> are right about!!!
>>>
>>> Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>>
>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, asswipe ...... EVER!!
>
> They made a film version of it around twenty years ago... it wasn't
> as good as the radio show.
>
> It sucked! :-)

The UK TV show is the best viewable version and the hand-drawn
"computer" animations for the Guide are great.

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 by: Your Name - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 20:24 UTC

On 2023-11-29 13:26:33 +0000, Daniel65 said:
> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 2:52 pm:
>> In article <uk6bdl$l2gt$2@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> % wrote on 29/11/2023 12:01 pm:
>>>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
>>>>>> In article <xn0o9vkyxdpqb62000@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <uk53k5$bb78$1@dont-email.me>, The Last
>>>>>>>> Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Used to be. And rec.arts.sf.composition, back in the
>>>>>>>>> days when I imagined I’d make a writer. However
>>>>>>>>> you’ll find that my entry in the isfdb is rather
>>>>>>>>> slim … probably about the same size as
>>>>>>>>> Earth’s entry in the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Speaking about HHGTTG and Disney ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something
>>>>>>> about the Disney version of it... as that is another one of
>>>>>>> your favourite broken records. But for once, it's something
>>>>>>> that you are right about!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, % ...... EVER!!
>>>>
>>>> maybe if you got out more
>>>
>>> But I've just been out doing some shopping! What more do you
>>> want??
>>
>> Hey someone needs to go to the movies.
>
> Yeah!! I probably DO need to go to the Movies, asswipe. I don't think
> I've been since pre-CoViD-19!!

I haven't been to the cinema since Star Wars Episode III (maybe even
Episode I). It is simply too expensive. I used to go during the weekday
daytime sessions when there was almost nobody else there. :-)

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 by: The Doctor - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 23:51 UTC

In article <uk86g7$vpf3$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>On 2023-11-29 11:19:43 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
>>>> In article <xn0o9vkyxdpqb62000@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something
>>>>> about the Disney version of it... as that is another one of your
>>>>> favourite broken records. But for once, it's something that you
>>>>> are right about!!!
>>>>
>>>> Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>>>
>>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, asswipe ...... EVER!!
>>
>> They made a film version of it around twenty years ago... it wasn't
>> as good as the radio show.
>>
>> It sucked! :-)
>
>The UK TV show is the best viewable version and the hand-drawn
>"computer" animations for the Guide are great.
>

You would!
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 by: The Doctor - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 23:52 UTC

In article <uk86ld$vq5m$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>On 2023-11-29 13:26:33 +0000, Daniel65 said:
>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 2:52 pm:
>>> In article <uk6bdl$l2gt$2@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> % wrote on 29/11/2023 12:01 pm:
>>>>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
>>>>>>> In article <xn0o9vkyxdpqb62000@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <uk53k5$bb78$1@dont-email.me>, The Last
>>>>>>>>> Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Used to be. And rec.arts.sf.composition, back in the
>>>>>>>>>> days when I imagined I’d make a writer. However
>>>>>>>>>> you’ll find that my entry in the isfdb is rather
>>>>>>>>>> slim … probably about the same size as
>>>>>>>>>> Earth’s entry in the Hitch Hikers Guide to
>the Galaxy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Speaking about HHGTTG and Disney ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something
>>>>>>>> about the Disney version of it... as that is another one of
>>>>>>>> your favourite broken records. But for once, it's something
>>>>>>>> that you are right about!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, % ...... EVER!!
>>>>>
>>>>> maybe if you got out more
>>>>
>>>> But I've just been out doing some shopping! What more do you
>>>> want??
>>>
>>> Hey someone needs to go to the movies.
>>
>> Yeah!! I probably DO need to go to the Movies, asswipe. I don't think
>> I've been since pre-CoViD-19!!
>
>I haven't been to the cinema since Star Wars Episode III (maybe even
>Episode I). It is simply too expensive. I used to go during the weekday
>daytime sessions when there was almost nobody else there. :-)
>
>
>

Too high for you? Grab a DVD.
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 by: Daniel65 - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 10:21 UTC

% wrote on 30/11/23 12:47 am:
> Daniel65 wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 2:52 pm:
>>> In article <uk6bdl$l2gt$2@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> % wrote on 29/11/2023 12:01 pm:
>>>>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
>>>>>>> In article <xn0o9vkyxdpqb62000@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <uk53k5$bb78$1@dont-email.me>, The Last
>>>>>>>>> Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Used to be. And  rec.arts.sf.composition, back in the
>>>>>>>>>> days when I imagined I’d make a writer. However
>>>>>>>>>> you’ll find that my entry in the isfdb is rather
>>>>>>>>>> slim … probably about the same size as
>>>>>>>>>> Earth’s entry in the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Speaking about HHGTTG and Disney ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something
>>>>>>>> about the Disney version of it... as that is another one of
>>>>>>>> your favourite broken records. But for once, it's something
>>>>>>>> that you are right about!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, % ...... EVER!!
>>>>>
>>>>> maybe if you got out more
>>>>
>>>> But I've just been out doing some shopping! What more do you
>>>> want??
>>>
>>> Hey someone needs to go to the movies.
>>>
>> Yeah!! I probably DO need to go to the Movies, asswipe. I don't think
>> I've been since pre-CoViD-19!!
>
> well you're replying to a fake %

Sorry!! I responded to the asswipe.

Are you calling the asswipe a fake %, %??
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 by: Daniel65 - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 10:25 UTC

Your Name wrote on 30/11/23 7:24 am:
> On 2023-11-29 13:26:33 +0000, Daniel65 said:
>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 2:52 pm:
>>> In article <uk6bdl$l2gt$2@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> % wrote on 29/11/2023 12:01 pm:
>>>>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <xn0o9vkyxdpqb62000@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <uk53k5$bb78$1@dont-email.me>, The Last
>>>>>>>>> Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Used to be. And rec.arts.sf.composition, back in
>>>>>>>>>> the days when I imagined I’d make a writer.
>>>>>>>>>> However you’ll find that my entry in the
>>>>>>>>>> isfdb is rather slim … probably about the
>>>>>>>>>> same size as Earth’s entry in the Hitch
>>>>>>>>>> Hikers Guide to the Galaxy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Speaking about HHGTTG and Disney ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post
>>>>>>>> something about the Disney version of it... as that is
>>>>>>>> another one of your favourite broken records. But for
>>>>>>>> once, it's something that you are right about!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, % ...... EVER!!
>>>>>
>>>>> maybe if you got out more
>>>>
>>>> But I've just been out doing some shopping! What more do you
>>>> want??
>>>
>>> Hey someone needs to go to the movies.
>>
>> Yeah!! I probably DO need to go to the Movies, asswipe. I don't
>> think I've been since pre-CoViD-19!!
>
> I haven't been to the cinema since Star Wars Episode III (maybe even
> Episode I). It is simply too expensive. I used to go during the
> weekday daytime sessions when there was almost nobody else there.
> :-)

Yeap, same-same for me. Where I used to live, the local multi-screen had
"Cheap Tuesdays" ... $10 to any film, any session before 6:00p.m.

Often, I'd rock up at about 10 mins to 11:00a.m. and just go to whatever
film was starting at about 11:00a.m. Pick-a-film, any film!
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The Doctor wrote on 30/11/23 10:51 am:
> In article <uk86g7$vpf3$1@dont-email.me>,
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-11-29 11:19:43 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
>>>>> In article <xn0o9vkyxdpqb62000@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something
>>>>>> about the Disney version of it... as that is another one of your
>>>>>> favourite broken records. But for once, it's something that you
>>>>>> are right about!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>>>>
>>>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, asswipe ...... EVER!!
>>>
>>> They made a film version of it around twenty years ago... it wasn't
>>> as good as the radio show.
>>>
>>> It sucked! :-)
>>
>> The UK TV show is the best viewable version and the hand-drawn
>> "computer" animations for the Guide are great.
>
> You would!
>
He would .................... WHAT, asswipe??
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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 12:58 UTC

In article <uk9nvn$1aqru$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Your Name wrote on 30/11/23 7:24 am:
>> On 2023-11-29 13:26:33 +0000, Daniel65 said:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 2:52 pm:
>>>> In article <uk6bdl$l2gt$2@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>> % wrote on 29/11/2023 12:01 pm:
>>>>>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>> <xn0o9vkyxdpqb62000@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <uk53k5$bb78$1@dont-email.me>, The Last
>>>>>>>>>> Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Used to be. And rec.arts.sf.composition, back in
>>>>>>>>>>> the days when I imagined I’d make a writer.
>>>>>>>>>>> However you’ll find that my entry in the
>>>>>>>>>>> isfdb is rather slim … probably about the
>>>>>>>>>>> same size as Earth’s entry in the Hitch
>>>>>>>>>>> Hikers Guide to the Galaxy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Speaking about HHGTTG and Disney ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post
>>>>>>>>> something about the Disney version of it... as that is
>>>>>>>>> another one of your favourite broken records. But for
>>>>>>>>> once, it's something that you are right about!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, % ...... EVER!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> maybe if you got out more
>>>>>
>>>>> But I've just been out doing some shopping! What more do you
>>>>> want??
>>>>
>>>> Hey someone needs to go to the movies.
>>>
>>> Yeah!! I probably DO need to go to the Movies, asswipe. I don't
>>> think I've been since pre-CoViD-19!!
>>
>> I haven't been to the cinema since Star Wars Episode III (maybe even
>> Episode I). It is simply too expensive. I used to go during the
>> weekday daytime sessions when there was almost nobody else there.
>> :-)
>
>Yeap, same-same for me. Where I used to live, the local multi-screen had
>"Cheap Tuesdays" ... $10 to any film, any session before 6:00p.m.
>
>Often, I'd rock up at about 10 mins to 11:00a.m. and just go to whatever
>film was starting at about 11:00a.m. Pick-a-film, any film!

Cheap Tuesday exist all day long for us.

>--
>Daniel

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 12:58 UTC

In article <uk9p4n$1avbr$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 30/11/23 10:51 am:
>> In article <uk86g7$vpf3$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-29 11:19:43 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
>>>>>> In article <xn0o9vkyxdpqb62000@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something
>>>>>>> about the Disney version of it... as that is another one of your
>>>>>>> favourite broken records. But for once, it's something that you
>>>>>>> are right about!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, % ...... EVER!!
>>>>
>>>> They made a film version of it around twenty years ago... it wasn't
>>>> as good as the radio show.
>>>>
>>>> It sucked! :-)
>>>
>>> The UK TV show is the best viewable version and the hand-drawn
>>> "computer" animations for the Guide are great.
>>
>> You would!
>>
>He would .................... WHAT, %??
>--
>Daniel

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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 04:29 UTC

In article <uk49o1$7598$4@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:
>> In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke hypocrites
>>>>>>> and bigots who no body asked for them to be represented
>>>>>>> by.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What people
>>>>>> appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's not
>>>>>> bigoted.)
>>>>>
>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction 'and'
>>>>> works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have said
>>>>> 'or'.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can already
>>>>>>>> and production is underway on the 2025 season), so we can
>>>>>>>> either learn to live with it and accept the show for what
>>>>>>>> it now is, or move on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue it
>>>>>>> from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for the
>>>>>>> viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only making
>>>>>>> stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow his
>>>>>> fanfics.
>>>>>
>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and
>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied Davros
>>>>> creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you be prizing
>>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's not
>>>> up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity staff
>>>> at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about is
>>>> fanfic.
>>>
>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from the
>>> Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in 2017 and
>>> is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is erased.
>>
>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>>
>We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that question,
>Dorothy.

[Hal Heydt]
Dorothy is my late wife (just over 17 months, now).

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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 14:22 UTC

In article <s50v4H.K4w@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <uk49o1$7598$4@dont-email.me>,
>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:
>>> In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke hypocrites
>>>>>>>> and bigots who no body asked for them to be represented
>>>>>>>> by.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What people
>>>>>>> appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's not
>>>>>>> bigoted.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction 'and'
>>>>>> works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have said
>>>>>> 'or'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can already
>>>>>>>>> and production is underway on the 2025 season), so we can
>>>>>>>>> either learn to live with it and accept the show for what
>>>>>>>>> it now is, or move on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue it
>>>>>>>> from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for the
>>>>>>>> viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only making
>>>>>>>> stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow his
>>>>>>> fanfics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and
>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied Davros
>>>>>> creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you be prizing
>>>>>> it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's not
>>>>> up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity staff
>>>>> at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about is
>>>>> fanfic.
>>>>
>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from the
>>>> Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in 2017 and
>>>> is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is erased.
>>>
>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>>>
>>We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that question,
>>Dorothy.
>
>[Hal Heydt]
>Dorothy is my late wife (just over 17 months, now).

:-(
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From: djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject: Re: Doctor Who's Davros reinvention is crucial for disabled fans
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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 20:47 UTC

In article <uk4k3l$8qrp$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:
>>>> In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke
>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be
>>>>>>>>> represented by.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What
>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's
>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction
>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have
>>>>>>> said 'or'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can
>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025
>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue
>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for
>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only
>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow
>>>>>>>> his fanfics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and
>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied
>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you
>>>>>>> be prizing it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's
>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity
>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about
>>>>>> is fanfic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from
>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in
>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is
>>>>> erased.
>>>>
>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>>>>
>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that
>>> question, Dorothy.
>>
>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At
>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed
>> last year.
>>
>Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking
>poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.
>
>Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry
>for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll
>come to us all, sooner or later!

[Hal Heydt]
I'm not upset about the mistake.

A couple of bits of history... The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto
Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to
fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.

When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from
Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a
surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce
Jones. (Go figure.) Likewise, because of the same issue with
Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to
that of her husband, Creelman. She has since found...the same
issue.

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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 23:10 UTC

In article <s524Fx.1B0G@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <uk4k3l$8qrp$1@dont-email.me>,
>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:
>>>>> In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke
>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be
>>>>>>>>>> represented by.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What
>>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's
>>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction
>>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have
>>>>>>>> said 'or'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can
>>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025
>>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue
>>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for
>>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only
>>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow
>>>>>>>>> his fanfics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and
>>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied
>>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you
>>>>>>>> be prizing it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's
>>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity
>>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about
>>>>>>> is fanfic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from
>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in
>>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is
>>>>>> erased.
>>>>>
>>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>>>>>
>>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that
>>>> question, Dorothy.
>>>
>>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At
>>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed
>>> last year.
>>>
>>Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking
>>poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.
>>
>>Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry
>>for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll
>>come to us all, sooner or later!
>
>[Hal Heydt]
>I'm not upset about the mistake.
>
>A couple of bits of history... The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto
>Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to
>fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.
>
>When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from
>Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a
>surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce
>Jones. (Go figure.) Likewise, because of the same issue with
>Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to
>that of her husband, Creelman. She has since found...the same
>issue.

Languages and cultures come to mind.
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From: djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject: Re: Doctor Who's Davros reinvention is crucial for disabled fans
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 05:05:14 GMT
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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 05:05 UTC

In article <ukgdhd$18oj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>In article <s524Fx.1B0G@kithrup.com>,
>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>In article <uk4k3l$8qrp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:
>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:
>>>>>> In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke
>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be
>>>>>>>>>>> represented by.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What
>>>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's
>>>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction
>>>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have
>>>>>>>>> said 'or'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can
>>>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025
>>>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue
>>>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for
>>>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only
>>>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow
>>>>>>>>>> his fanfics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and
>>>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied
>>>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you
>>>>>>>>> be prizing it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's
>>>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity
>>>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about
>>>>>>>> is fanfic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from
>>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in
>>>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is
>>>>>>> erased.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>>>>>>
>>>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that
>>>>> question, Dorothy.
>>>>
>>>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At
>>>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed
>>>> last year.
>>>>
>>>Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking
>>>poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.
>>>
>>>Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry
>>>for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll
>>>come to us all, sooner or later!
>>
>>[Hal Heydt]
>>I'm not upset about the mistake.
>>
>>A couple of bits of history... The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto
>>Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to
>>fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.
>>
>>When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from
>>Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a
>>surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce
>>Jones. (Go figure.) Likewise, because of the same issue with
>>Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to
>>that of her husband, Creelman. She has since found...the same
>>issue.
>
>Languages and cultures come to mind.

[Hal Heydt]
More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a
degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than
English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 11:55 UTC

In article <s5A64q.1Ixp@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <ukgdhd$18oj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>In article <s524Fx.1B0G@kithrup.com>,
>>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>In article <uk4k3l$8qrp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:
>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:
>>>>>>> In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke
>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> represented by.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What
>>>>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's
>>>>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction
>>>>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have
>>>>>>>>>> said 'or'.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025
>>>>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue
>>>>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only
>>>>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow
>>>>>>>>>>> his fanfics.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and
>>>>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied
>>>>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you
>>>>>>>>>> be prizing it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's
>>>>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity
>>>>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about
>>>>>>>>> is fanfic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from
>>>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in
>>>>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is
>>>>>>>> erased.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that
>>>>>> question, Dorothy.
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At
>>>>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed
>>>>> last year.
>>>>>
>>>>Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking
>>>>poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry
>>>>for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll
>>>>come to us all, sooner or later!
>>>
>>>[Hal Heydt]
>>>I'm not upset about the mistake.
>>>
>>>A couple of bits of history... The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto
>>>Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to
>>>fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.
>>>
>>>When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from
>>>Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a
>>>surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce
>>>Jones. (Go figure.) Likewise, because of the same issue with
>>>Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to
>>>that of her husband, Creelman. She has since found...the same
>>>issue.
>>
>>Languages and cultures come to mind.
>
>[Hal Heydt]
>More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a
>degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than
>English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.

As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...
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Subject: Re: Doctor Who's Davros reinvention is crucial for disabled fans
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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Tue, 12 Dec 2023 05:26 UTC

In article <uksbrm$as0$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>In article <s5A64q.1Ixp@kithrup.com>,
>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>In article <ukgdhd$18oj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>>The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>In article <s524Fx.1B0G@kithrup.com>,
>>>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>>In article <uk4k3l$8qrp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:
>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:
>>>>>>>> In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> represented by.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What
>>>>>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction
>>>>>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have
>>>>>>>>>>> said 'or'.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only
>>>>>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow
>>>>>>>>>>>> his fanfics.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and
>>>>>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied
>>>>>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you
>>>>>>>>>>> be prizing it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's
>>>>>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity
>>>>>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about
>>>>>>>>>> is fanfic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from
>>>>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in
>>>>>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is
>>>>>>>>> erased.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that
>>>>>>> question, Dorothy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At
>>>>>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed
>>>>>> last year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking
>>>>>poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry
>>>>>for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll
>>>>>come to us all, sooner or later!
>>>>
>>>>[Hal Heydt]
>>>>I'm not upset about the mistake.
>>>>
>>>>A couple of bits of history... The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto
>>>>Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to
>>>>fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.
>>>>
>>>>When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from
>>>>Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a
>>>>surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce
>>>>Jones. (Go figure.) Likewise, because of the same issue with
>>>>Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to
>>>>that of her husband, Creelman. She has since found...the same
>>>>issue.
>>>
>>>Languages and cultures come to mind.
>>
>>[Hal Heydt]
>>More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a
>>degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than
>>English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.
>
>As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...

[Hal Heydt]
I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)

Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
considered a "laungauge".

And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
yes... ALGOL was one of them.

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 by: The Doctor - Tue, 12 Dec 2023 07:23 UTC

In article <s5JGFC.1z69@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <uksbrm$as0$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>In article <s5A64q.1Ixp@kithrup.com>,
>>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>In article <ukgdhd$18oj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>>>The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>In article <s524Fx.1B0G@kithrup.com>,
>>>>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>>>In article <uk4k3l$8qrp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:
>>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:
>>>>>>>>> In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> represented by.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have
>>>>>>>>>>>> said 'or'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow
>>>>>>>>>>>>> his fanfics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied
>>>>>>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you
>>>>>>>>>>>> be prizing it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's
>>>>>>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity
>>>>>>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about
>>>>>>>>>>> is fanfic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from
>>>>>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in
>>>>>>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is
>>>>>>>>>> erased.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that
>>>>>>>> question, Dorothy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At
>>>>>>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed
>>>>>>> last year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking
>>>>>>poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry
>>>>>>for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll
>>>>>>come to us all, sooner or later!
>>>>>
>>>>>[Hal Heydt]
>>>>>I'm not upset about the mistake.
>>>>>
>>>>>A couple of bits of history... The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto
>>>>>Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to
>>>>>fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.
>>>>>
>>>>>When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from
>>>>>Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a
>>>>>surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce
>>>>>Jones. (Go figure.) Likewise, because of the same issue with
>>>>>Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to
>>>>>that of her husband, Creelman. She has since found...the same
>>>>>issue.
>>>>
>>>>Languages and cultures come to mind.
>>>
>>>[Hal Heydt]
>>>More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a
>>>degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than
>>>English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.
>>
>>As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...
>
>[Hal Heydt]
>I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
>writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
>meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
>FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
>Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
>Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
>IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
>can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>
>Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>considered a "laungauge".
>
>And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
>yes... ALGOL was one of them.

You are indeed ancient.

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Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
> In article <uksbrm$as0$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>> In article <s5A64q.1Ixp@kithrup.com>,
>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>> In article <ukgdhd$18oj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>> In article <s524Fx.1B0G@kithrup.com>,
>>>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <uk4k3l$8qrp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:
>>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:
>>>>>>>>> In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> represented by.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have
>>>>>>>>>>>> said 'or'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow
>>>>>>>>>>>>> his fanfics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied
>>>>>>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you
>>>>>>>>>>>> be prizing it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's
>>>>>>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity
>>>>>>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about
>>>>>>>>>>> is fanfic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from
>>>>>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in
>>>>>>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is
>>>>>>>>>> erased.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that
>>>>>>>> question, Dorothy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At
>>>>>>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed
>>>>>>> last year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking
>>>>>> poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry
>>>>>> for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll
>>>>>> come to us all, sooner or later!
>>>>>
>>>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>>>> I'm not upset about the mistake.
>>>>>
>>>>> A couple of bits of history... The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto
>>>>> Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to
>>>>> fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.
>>>>>
>>>>> When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from
>>>>> Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a
>>>>> surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce
>>>>> Jones. (Go figure.) Likewise, because of the same issue with
>>>>> Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to
>>>>> that of her husband, Creelman. She has since found...the same
>>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> Languages and cultures come to mind.
>>>
>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>> More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a
>>> degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than
>>> English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.
>>
>> As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...
>
> [Hal Heydt]
> I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
> writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
> meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
> FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
> Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
> Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
> IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
> can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>
> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
> considered a "laungauge".
>
> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
> yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>
In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.
--
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Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
[Time for a snip]
> >>>
> >>> [Hal Heydt]
> >>> More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a
> >>> degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than
> >>> English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.
> >>
> >> As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...
> >
> > [Hal Heydt]
> > I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
> > writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
> > meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
> > FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
> > Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
> > Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
> > IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
> > can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
> >
> > Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
> > considered a "laungauge".
> >
> > And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
> > languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
> > learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
> > yes... ALGOL was one of them.
> >
> In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
> Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
> got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
> also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.

You both might profit from subscribing to news:alt.folklore.computers where
olden computing stuff is aired. And even modern stuff such as PCs
running DOS.

xpost left in, as I can't tell where Daniel65 is based, (I'm seeing this
in rasf) but it would do us all a favour if the drwho chat was kept in the
correct NGs. TIA.

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 by: The Doctor - Tue, 12 Dec 2023 14:37 UTC

In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>> In article <uksbrm$as0$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> In article <s5A64q.1Ixp@kithrup.com>,
>>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <ukgdhd$18oj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>>>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>> In article <s524Fx.1B0G@kithrup.com>,
>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In article <uk4k3l$8qrp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:
>>>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> represented by.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> said 'or'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his fanfics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be prizing it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity
>>>>>>>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about
>>>>>>>>>>>> is fanfic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from
>>>>>>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is
>>>>>>>>>>> erased.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that
>>>>>>>>> question, Dorothy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel
>(hence the tag). At
>>>>>>>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience.
>Dorothy passed
>>>>>>>> last year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking
>>>>>>> poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry
>>>>>>> for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll
>>>>>>> come to us all, sooner or later!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>>>>> I'm not upset about the mistake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A couple of bits of history... The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto
>>>>>> Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to
>>>>>> fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from
>>>>>> Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a
>>>>>> surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce
>>>>>> Jones. (Go figure.) Likewise, because of the same issue with
>>>>>> Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to
>>>>>> that of her husband, Creelman. She has since found...the same
>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Languages and cultures come to mind.
>>>>
>>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>>> More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a
>>>> degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than
>>>> English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.
>>>
>>> As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...
>>
>> [Hal Heydt]
>> I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
>> writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
>> meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
>> FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
>> Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
>> Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
>> IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
>> can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>>
>> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>> considered a "laungauge".
>>
>> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
>> yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>>
>In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
>Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
>got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
>also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.


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In article <20231212104801.d451d55dde40234adc0b1224@127.0.0.1>,
Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 21:41:02 +1100
>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>[Time for a snip]
>> >>>
>> >>> [Hal Heydt]
>> >>> More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a
>> >>> degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than
>> >>> English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.
>> >>
>> >> As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...
>> >
>> > [Hal Heydt]
>> > I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
>> > writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
>> > meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
>> > FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
>> > Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
>> > Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
>> > IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
>> > can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>> >
>> > Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>> > considered a "laungauge".
>> >
>> > And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>> > languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>> > learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
>> > yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>> >
>> In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
>> Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
>> got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
>> also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.
>
>You both might profit from subscribing to news:alt.folklore.computers where
>olden computing stuff is aired. And even modern stuff such as PCs
>running DOS.
>
>xpost left in, as I can't tell where Daniel65 is based, (I'm seeing this
>in rasf) but it would do us all a favour if the drwho chat was kept in the
>correct NGs. TIA.
>

Nice!

>
>--
>Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 01:16 UTC

In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>> [Hal Heydt]
>> I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
>> writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
>> meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
>> FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
>> Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
>> Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
>> IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
>> can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>>
>> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>> considered a "laungauge".
>>
>> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
>> yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>>
>In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
>Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
>got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
>also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.

[Hal Heydt]
I started learning to program in 1964...so BASIC, Pascal
languages didn't exist, and neither did microprocessors.

Among languages I forgot mention...SNOBOL.

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In article <s5qJIs.16J0@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>,
>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>> I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
>>> writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
>>> meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
>>> FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
>>> Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
>>> Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
>>> IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
>>> can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>>>
>>> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>>> considered a "laungauge".
>>>
>>> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>>> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>>> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
>>> yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>>>
>>In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
>>Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
>>got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
>>also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.
>
>[Hal Heydt]
>I started learning to program in 1964...so BASIC, Pascal
>languages didn't exist, and neither did microprocessors.
>
>Among languages I forgot mention...SNOBOL.

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