Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
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> In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com
> wrote:
>> On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
>
>>> The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who
>>> cannot. It says any American citizen can run for president, with
>>> four big exceptions.
>>>
>>> Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody
>>> can run for president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are
>>> a natural-born citizen and have lived in the United States for at
>>> least 14 years.
>>>
>>> After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not
>>> wanting this country to fear that federal officials might again
>>> attempt to overthrow the government, they added the 14th Amendment
>>> which, among other provisions, disqualifies as a candidate for any
>>> federal office anybody who swore to uphold the Constitution and then
>>> sought to overturn it.
>>>
>>> The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: “No
>>> person shall…hold an office, civil or military, under the United
>>> States…who, having previously taken an oath…to support the
>>> Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in
>>> insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort
>>> to the enemies thereof.”
>>>
>>> Then Congress added an important final clause: “But Congress may
>>> by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”
>>>
>>> Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump “engage
>>> in insurrection” and/or “give comfort to” those who did?
>>> Absolutely. Even though not yet convicted of doing so (which the
>>> Constitution does not require),
>>
>>So much for due process.
>
> Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>
14.3 is not a punishment or trial - it is requirements for office, Do we
need "due process" for the age requirement? Or "due process" for the
Natural Born Citizen requirement?

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
> news:unh8ms$1jk6b$4@dont-email.me:
>
>> In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com
>> wrote:
>>> On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
>>
>>>> The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who
>>>> cannot. It says any American citizen can run for president, with
>>>> four big exceptions.
>>>>
>>>> Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody
>>>> can run for president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are
>>>> a natural-born citizen and have lived in the United States for at
>>>> least 14 years.
>>>>
>>>> After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not
>>>> wanting this country to fear that federal officials might again
>>>> attempt to overthrow the government, they added the 14th Amendment
>>>> which, among other provisions, disqualifies as a candidate for any
>>>> federal office anybody who swore to uphold the Constitution and then
>>>> sought to overturn it.
>>>>
>>>> The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: â?oNo
>>>> person shallâ?¦hold an office, civil or military, under the United
>>>> Statesâ?¦who, having previously taken an oathâ?¦to support the
>>>> Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in
>>>> insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort
>>>> to the enemies thereof.�
>>>>
>>>> Then Congress added an important final clause: â?oBut Congress may
>>>> by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.�
>>>>
>>>> Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump â?oengage
>>>> in insurrectionâ? and/or â?ogive comfort toâ? those who did?
>>>> Absolutely. Even though not yet convicted of doing so (which the
>>>> Constitution does not require),
>>>
>>>So much for due process.
>>
>> Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
>>
>> --
>> Let's go Brandon!
>>
>>
> 14.3 is not a punishment or trial - it is requirements for office, Do we
> need "due process" for the age requirement? Or "due process" for the
> Natural Born Citizen requirement?

Actually we do.. that's documentation you have to supply to run for public
office and if anyone can later show the documentation was fraudulent you are
not only removed from office but subject to criminal charges after the case
goes to court. So, yes, there is due process even in those matters.

After all if simply claiming a President isn't native born were enough..
Obama would have been removed from office.

Unless you're going to tell us he should have been removed from office and
Democrats sheltered him by requiring due process?

So go ahead cupcake..... let's see which way you want to go with this...

On 1/9/2024 4:27 AM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
> news:unho1a$1m229$1@dont-email.me...
>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
>> news:unh8ms$1jk6b$4@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who
>>>>> cannot. It says any American citizen can run for president, with
>>>>> four big exceptions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody
>>>>> can run for president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are
>>>>> a natural-born citizen and have lived in the United States for at
>>>>> least 14 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not
>>>>> wanting this country to fear that federal officials might again
>>>>> attempt to overthrow the government, they added the 14th Amendment
>>>>> which, among other provisions, disqualifies as a candidate for any
>>>>> federal office anybody who swore to uphold the Constitution and then
>>>>> sought to overturn it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: â?oNo
>>>>> person shallâ?¦hold an office, civil or military, under the United
>>>>> Statesâ?¦who, having previously taken an oathâ?¦to support the
>>>>> Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in
>>>>> insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort
>>>>> to the enemies thereof.�
>>>>>
>>>>> Then Congress added an important final clause: â?oBut Congress may
>>>>> by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.�
>>>>>
>>>>> Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump â?oengage
>>>>> in insurrectionâ? and/or â?ogive comfort toâ? those who did?
>>>>> Absolutely. Even though not yet convicted of doing so (which the
>>>>> Constitution does not require),
>>>>
>>>> So much for due process.
>>>
>>> Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Let's go Brandon!
>>>
>>>
>> 14.3 is not a punishment or trial - it is requirements for office,  Do we
>> need "due process" for the age requirement?  Or "due process" for the
>> Natural Born Citizen requirement?
>
> Actually we do

We don't, scooter.