On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 12:36:38 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 1:49:05 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 2:51:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > i didn't know he had a girlfriend when he died.
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> > Who is (or was) the alleged girlfriend?
> >
> > John was a fan of a Korean massage parlor. He had an (unreciprocated, as far as I know) infatuation with the artist Alexa Grace.
> Here's Alexa Grace
>
> https://ei.phncdn.com/videos/202201/14/401283681/original/(m=q6WNJ_WbeGNdHgaaaa)(mh=30EYWGtpyBqvyn0b)0.jpg

I'm not able to find an image of Alexa Grace at the moment, but she was not a porn actress. She was an artist who looked like Ingrid Bergman at the time she and John (Richard Ross of Home restaurant was present, too). When Lennon came on to her, she recoiled and snapped that she was not a groupie.

Lennon never forgot her and I'm told there are references to Ms. Grace in his diaries.

On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:51:21 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> i didn't know he had a girlfriend when he died.
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

According to Rolling Stone's Random Notes, John had a fling with a Hollywood clothes designer named Michelle Cox in the mid-70s. Google searches haven't helped me to learn anything more about this woman.

i didn't know he had a girlfriend when he died.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 2:51:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> i didn't know he had a girlfriend when he died.
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

Who is (or was) the alleged girlfriend?

John was a fan of a Korean massage parlor. He had an (unreciprocated, as far as I know) infatuation with the artist Alexa Grace. Jack Douglas' girlfriend was working towards fixing John up with the actress Maud Adams.

Unless you're talking about May Pang, I don't know that John had a girlfriend.

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 1:49:05 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 2:51:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > i didn't know he had a girlfriend when he died.
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
> Who is (or was) the alleged girlfriend?
>
> John was a fan of a Korean massage parlor. He had an (unreciprocated, as far as I know) infatuation with the artist Alexa Grace.

Here's Alexa Grace

https://ei.phncdn.com/videos/202201/14/401283681/original/(m=q6WNJ_WbeGNdHgaaaa)(mh=30EYWGtpyBqvyn0b)0.jpg

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 1:49:05 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 2:51:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > i didn't know he had a girlfriend when he died.
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
> Who is (or was) the alleged girlfriend?
>
> John was a fan of a Korean massage parlor. He had an (unreciprocated, as far as I know) infatuation with the artist Alexa Grace. Jack Douglas' girlfriend was working towards fixing John up with the actress Maud Adams.

Maud Adams - https://www.themoviedb.org/t/p/w500/iJMwjbngYgfh4LELSV8HPI9QeJT.jpg

Was Yoko supposed to have been okay with this?

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 3:37:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 1:49:05 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 2:51:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > i didn't know he had a girlfriend when he died.
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> > Who is (or was) the alleged girlfriend?
> >
> > John was a fan of a Korean massage parlor. He had an (unreciprocated, as far as I know) infatuation with the artist Alexa Grace. Jack Douglas' girlfriend was working towards fixing John up with the actress Maud Adams.
> Maud Adams - https://www.themoviedb.org/t/p/w500/iJMwjbngYgfh4LELSV8HPI9QeJT.jpg
>
> Was Yoko supposed to have been okay with this?

My sense is that Yoko was out of the loop on this.

Yoko had her own extramarital relationships. To the best of my knowledge, John never got to actually meet Maud Adams.

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 3:37:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 1:49:05 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 2:51:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > i didn't know he had a girlfriend when he died.
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> > Who is (or was) the alleged girlfriend?
> >
> > John was a fan of a Korean massage parlor. He had an (unreciprocated, as far as I know) infatuation with the artist Alexa Grace. Jack Douglas' girlfriend was working towards fixing John up with the actress Maud Adams.
> Maud Adams - https://www.themoviedb.org/t/p/w500/iJMwjbngYgfh4LELSV8HPI9QeJT.jpg
>
> Was Yoko supposed to have been okay with this?

Maud Adams was a striking, Swedish-born actress who can be seen in at least two of the James Bond films.

I don't know what that porn image, supposedly of Alex Grace, is about.

Maud Adams was too pretty for John's tastes, lol. Maybe he assumed
pretty women couldn't be his intellectual equal.

Possibly the girl he bedded once at the party with Yoko in attendance
wasn't bad looking, at least she was pretty in a dramatization I saw.

Cynthia wasn't a bad looking woman while they were married.

May Pang was nothing to write home about in her prime but at least she
was better looking than Yoko.

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 9:09:57 PM UTC-4, super70s wrote:
> Maud Adams was too pretty for John's tastes, lol. Maybe he assumed
> pretty women couldn't be his intellectual equal.
>
> Possibly the girl he bedded once at the party with Yoko in attendance
> wasn't bad looking, at least she was pretty in a dramatization I saw.
>
> Cynthia wasn't a bad looking woman while they were married.
>
> May Pang was nothing to write home about in her prime but at least she
> was better looking than Yoko.

The girl he bedded at the party? I've seen her high school pics. She looked sweet & wholesome. How sad that she got involved with an unwashed delusional freak. I refer to Jerry Rubin there, though Lennon looked pretty ratty and scruffy at the time of the incident.

May Pang was sort of plain-looking during the 70s, but she blossomed a bit later. Check her out in the David Bowie "Fame" video, or her 1980s TV appearances.

I wish Cynthia Lennon had had more confidence and had fought Yoko off. However, she knew that, after his LSD phase, Lennon had drifted mentally and emotionally.

On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 2:51:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> i didn't know he had a girlfriend when he died.

Who was she and where did you find out about her?

> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:51:21 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> i didn't know he had a girlfriend when he died.
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

Lennon also had a one-time fling with a girlfriend of Harry Nilsson's. Goldman refers to her as "Lil" and admits that is a pseudonym. I am of the belief that this woman was Kathy Simmonds.

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 7:58:06 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:51:21 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > i didn't know he had a girlfriend when he died.
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
> Lennon also had a one-time fling with a girlfriend of Harry Nilsson's. Goldman refers to her as "Lil" and admits that is a pseudonym. I am of the belief that this woman was Kathy Simmonds.

When I Googled her it said George's girlfriend.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTg1idaW5FQ_lyDd2D1ahLBf2mvSQCcTsNPTQYEsOnrunTf1x5Z

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 7:38:12 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 7:58:06 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:51:21 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > i didn't know he had a girlfriend when he died.
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> > Lennon also had a one-time fling with a girlfriend of Harry Nilsson's. Goldman refers to her as "Lil" and admits that is a pseudonym. I am of the belief that this woman was Kathy Simmonds.
> When I Googled her it said George's girlfriend.
>
> https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTg1idaW5FQ_lyDd2D1ahLBf2mvSQCcTsNPTQYEsOnrunTf1x5Z

I love the image!

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 9:09:57 PM UTC-4, super70s wrote:
> Maud Adams was too pretty for John's tastes, lol. Maybe he assumed
> pretty women couldn't be his intellectual equal.
>
> Possibly the girl he bedded once at the party with Yoko in attendance
> wasn't bad looking, at least she was pretty in a dramatization I saw.
>
> Cynthia wasn't a bad looking woman while they were married.
>
> May Pang was nothing to write home about in her prime but at least she
> was better looking than Yoko.

The girl he bedded at the party? I've seen her high school pics. She looked sweet & wholesome. How sad that she got involved with an unwashed delusional freak. I refer to Jerry Rubin there, though Lennon looked pretty ratty and scruffy at the time of the incident.

May Pang was sort of plain-looking during the 70s, but she blossomed a bit later. Check her out in the David Bowie "Fame" video, or her 1980s TV appearances.

I wish Cynthia Lennon had had more confidence and had fought Yoko off. However, she knew that, after his LSD phase, Lennon had drifted mentally and emotionally.
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On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 3:49:47 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> Mick listed these as some of his favorites:
>
> ‘Palace Of The King’ – Freddie King
> ‘Drop Down Mama’ – Mississippi Fred McDowell
> ‘Chicago’ – Luther Allison
> ‘Strange Things Happening Every Day’ – Sister Rosetta Tharpe
> ‘Too Drunk To Drive Drunk’ – Joe Louis Walker
> ‘Has Anyone Seen My Man’ – Memphis Minnie
> ‘Baby Please Don’t Leave Me’ – Buddy Guy
> ‘I’m So Happy I Cry’ – Fantastic Negrito Feat. Tang & The Bangas
> ‘Alright Alright’ – Alabama Shakes
> ‘Boogie’ – Little Walter
>
> What do you think, Geoff?

If Geoff isn't a Jagger fan, he has no reason to be impressed.
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Subject: Re: John Lennon and the Peoples' Park Riots
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On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 8:21:53 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:15:56 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
> > https://dangerousminds.net/comments/john_lennon_and_the_peoples_park_riots_a_remembrance
> >
> > Of all the harebrained causes John Lennon got behind...
> Here's the backstory: The University of California had purchased a few acres of land a couple blocks south of the main Berkeley campus. In 1968, nothing had been done on the site, and it became a hangout to the area's homeless and druggies. In 1969, with the support of some students, these people decided that the area didn't really belong to anyone (except maybe themselves) and declared their intention of "letting a thousand parks bloom." This was in echo of Chairman Mao's purported desire to "let a thousand flowers bloom."
>
> Nearby residents, who were unhappy with the round-the-clock bonfires, drug use, bongo-playing and public sex in the so-called park got the police involved. The hippies resisted the police. Then-governor Reagan got the national guard involved, one of the hippies was killed, and the so-called Peoples' Park Protests gained national attention.. The mess went on for years, and eventually the university gave in and allowed the property to be turned into a public park. It is, to this day, inhabited mostly by homeless people and drug salesmen & users and is best avoided at night.

BTW, as far as I can find out, it was during this mess that the hippies began to refer to law enforcement as "blue meanies."

The Zodiac Killer embraced the term, though in his previous communications ("I shall state some facts which only I & the police know) he had no attitude towards them one way or the other.
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On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 2:51:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> i didn't know he had a girlfriend when he died.

Who was she and where did you find out about her?

> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.
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On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 3:21:39 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
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> I give up - pointless ....

What happened? Why are you still discussing this?
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Subject: AI says that this is what John would look like now if still alive
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Subject: Paul's Pennies
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In August 2019, Paul was spotted leaving a dozen pennies on railroad tracks in Hamptons, New York, so they could be flattened by trains and turned into guitar picks. Paul owns a home in the Hamptons near these tracks.
The British tabloids lost their collective minds over this, reporting that the “Penny Lane penny pincher” has an estimated net worth of $1.2 billion, yet came up with this thrifty way to make, rather than buy, guitar picks.
Instead of trying to save money, we think Paul just wanted some quality picks. Other musicians, including Queen’s Brian May, have used flattened coins as picks because the metal is strong.

The British press was happy that Paul was showing his patriotism by wearing a Great Britain National baseball cap.

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Subject: Re: Dylan wrote this to mock John Lennon doing his style on
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On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:38:22 PM UTC-8, Bruce wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wSIboHqtXY

Dylan may have mocked it, but "Norwegian Wood" is the far better song. I remember an interview with JL in which he said that he did some songs in Dylan's style to show that he could do it better.

"Fourth Time Around" sounds to me like a lot of grunting & moaning over a repetitive and uninteresting couple of chords.