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Re: Kurosawa's Ran is like Trojan Women and Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.

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Subject: Re: Kurosawa's Ran is like Trojan Women and Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.
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by: gggg gggg - Thu, 27 Jul 2023 19:05 UTC

On Monday, August 25, 2008 at 5:48:47 PM UTC-7, LMC Society wrote:
> I saw Cacaoyannis's Trojan Women, and I mostly agree with John Simon's
> critical review of it.
> Anyway, the scenes in the ruined castle in Ran may have taken some
> pointers from this mooie.
> Also, notice how Ran begins? Hidetora is hunting an old boar, so in a
> way, it's like he's hunting himself.
> Now, consider the opening of Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid. James
> Coburn shoots chickens, and that is intercut with young men shooting
> Pat Garrett. So, shooting chickens is like Garrett shooting himself.
> Both Pat Garrett and Ran are about old men who think they can hang up
> the past and retire safely. To be sure, Garrett loses his faith/trust
> in youth and kills Billy--only to be killed by other young(er) ones.
> Hidetora, on the other hand, trusts the young ones to respect his old
> ass but his arse is shot full of arrows.

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