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Todi-prakars with shuddha Re only ( no komal re )

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by: ChristianAMR - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 17:19 UTC

At OceanofRagas there are 8 such ragas . ( Lachari Todi , Santuri T , Anjani T ...)
The dilema is where to find the Todi-and in their phrases ...
At the Desi page of Parrikar there is a partial explanation for my inquiries :

" Desi is sometimes denominated as ‘Desi Todi’ but the modern form carries no trace of the Todi-anga "

"As in the case of Desi, the “Todi” appellation is misleading because there is no Todi-anga in Govardhani Todi.

The raga rests on a Desi base and is supplemented with two special interleaving strands, one drawn from Kafi – M’ P’ D’ n’ S – and the other inspired by Darbari – M’ P’ (n’)d’ (n’)d’ S. "

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That leaves the question open of how an older Todi with different phrases might have been constructed or what else could have happened through the centuries ...
Fortunately Joep Bor´s book states that during the time of Tansen the old Todi corresponded to today´s Bhairavi that . Can not find more info anywhere .

Would be interesting to know if someone has proposed new names like for Gaud Sarang into Din ki Bihag .

Who does not trust enough will not be trusted. -- Lao Tsu

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