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Subject: Re: Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times
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by: Rick K - Mon, 10 Jul 2023 01:20 UTC

On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:46:07 PM UTC-5, Ed Presson wrote:
> "Dan Koren" wrote in message
> news:9cc851ee-9990-48a9...@googlegroups.com...
> Bashkirov absolutely completely owned this
> work. I heard him perform it live in the 1960s,
> then again in San Francisco in the 1990s. No
> one else came close -- and certainly not the
> erratic Sammy Francois, whom I also heard
> trying to perform it live in the 1960s.
> I just listened again, and I agree. I've never heard the Ravel Left-Hand
> Concerto
> performed with more insight and fervor. I envy in hearing him do this
> twice.

Bashkirov is great. I have that disc with the Ravel (recorded in 1965) which also includes Bach f minor BWV 1056 and Mozart G Major K 453.

I really like this live Ravel Left Hand with Eliso Virsaladze, which I think has some of what Ed was looking for (which is also how I like this piece played).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnA8bzeJDes
The opening (from the primal depths!) and the awesome cadenza near the end give me chills...
I haven't heard the Marshev Ed mentioned, but see it on Presto and will give it a listen.
Rick K

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Subject: Re: Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times
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by: Dan Koren - Mon, 10 Jul 2023 02:08 UTC

On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 6:20:41 PM UTC-7, Rick K wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:46:07 PM UTC-5, Ed Presson wrote:
> > "Dan Koren" wrote in message
> > news:9cc851ee-9990-48a9...@googlegroups.com...
> > Bashkirov absolutely completely owned this
> > work. I heard him perform it live in the 1960s,
> > then again in San Francisco in the 1990s. No
> > one else came close -- and certainly not the
> > erratic Sammy Francois, whom I also heard
> > trying to perform it live in the 1960s.
> > I just listened again, and I agree. I've never heard the Ravel Left-Hand
> > Concerto
> > performed with more insight and fervor. I envy in hearing him do this
> > twice.
> Bashkirov is great. I have that disc with the Ravel (recorded in 1965) which also includes Bach f minor BWV 1056 and Mozart G Major K 453.
>
> I really like this live Ravel Left Hand with Eliso Virsaladze, which I think has some of what Ed was looking for (which is also how I like this piece played).
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnA8bzeJDes
> The opening (from the primal depths!) and the awesome cadenza near the end give me chills...
> I haven't heard the Marshev Ed mentioned, but see it on Presto and will give it a listen.
> Rick K

See:

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.classical.recordings/c/axMFe9FrTtA/m/GtCjJE6uAgAJ

Another classic is Michel Beroff:

https://youtu.be/8KjoPFFh_SE

I find it "interesting" that 2 great
Ravel pianists, MA and ABM have
both avoided it. Does anyone know
why?

Among recent performances Juan
Pérez Floristán is very good:

https://youtu.be/Z9kIIQdMzHI

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Subject: Re: Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times
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by: Rick K - Mon, 10 Jul 2023 02:41 UTC

On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 10:08:29 PM UTC-4, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 6:20:41 PM UTC-7, Rick K wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:46:07 PM UTC-5, Ed Presson wrote:
> > > "Dan Koren" wrote in message
> > > news:9cc851ee-9990-48a9...@googlegroups.com...
> > > Bashkirov absolutely completely owned this
> > > work. I heard him perform it live in the 1960s,
> > > then again in San Francisco in the 1990s. No
> > > one else came close -- and certainly not the
> > > erratic Sammy Francois, whom I also heard
> > > trying to perform it live in the 1960s.
> > > I just listened again, and I agree. I've never heard the Ravel Left-Hand
> > > Concerto
> > > performed with more insight and fervor. I envy in hearing him do this
> > > twice.
> > Bashkirov is great. I have that disc with the Ravel (recorded in 1965) which also includes Bach f minor BWV 1056 and Mozart G Major K 453.
> >
> > I really like this live Ravel Left Hand with Eliso Virsaladze, which I think has some of what Ed was looking for (which is also how I like this piece played).
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnA8bzeJDes
> > The opening (from the primal depths!) and the awesome cadenza near the end give me chills...
> > I haven't heard the Marshev Ed mentioned, but see it on Presto and will give it a listen.
> > Rick K
> See:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.classical.recordings/c/axMFe9FrTtA/m/GtCjJE6uAgAJ
>
> Another classic is Michel Beroff:
>
> https://youtu.be/8KjoPFFh_SE
>
> I find it "interesting" that 2 great
> Ravel pianists, MA and ABM have
> both avoided it. Does anyone know
> why?
>
> Among recent performances Juan
> Pérez Floristán is very good:
>
> https://youtu.be/Z9kIIQdMzHI
>
> dk

It so happens that the Beroff was the first recording of the Ravel LH Concerto that I got on CD, back in the late 80's, though I haven't heard it in years. I just pulled it off the shelf to get re-acquainted. I don't know why MA/ABM have avoided it.
Rick K

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by: raymond....@gmail.co - Mon, 10 Jul 2023 02:56 UTC

On Monday, 10 July 2023 at 12:41:11 UTC+10, Rick K wrote:
> On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 10:08:29 PM UTC-4, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 6:20:41 PM UTC-7, Rick K wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:46:07 PM UTC-5, Ed Presson wrote:
> > > > "Dan Koren" wrote in message
> > > > news:9cc851ee-9990-48a9...googlegroups.com...
> > > > Bashkirov absolutely completely owned this
> > > > work. I heard him perform it live in the 1960s,
> > > > then again in San Francisco in the 1990s. No
> > > > one else came close -- and certainly not the
> > > > erratic Sammy Francois, whom I also heard
> > > > trying to perform it live in the 1960s.
> > > > I just listened again, and I agree. I've never heard the Ravel Left-Hand
> > > > Concerto
> > > > performed with more insight and fervor. I envy in hearing him do this
> > > > twice.
> > > Bashkirov is great. I have that disc with the Ravel (recorded in 1965) which also includes Bach f minor BWV 1056 and Mozart G Major K 453.
> > >
> > > I really like this live Ravel Left Hand with Eliso Virsaladze, which I think has some of what Ed was looking for (which is also how I like this piece played).
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnA8bzeJDes
> > > The opening (from the primal depths!) and the awesome cadenza near the end give me chills...
> > > I haven't heard the Marshev Ed mentioned, but see it on Presto and will give it a listen.
> > > Rick K
> > See:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.classical.recordings/c/axMFe9FrTtA/m/GtCjJE6uAgAJ
> >
> > Another classic is Michel Beroff:
> >
> > https://youtu.be/8KjoPFFh_SE
> >
> > I find it "interesting" that 2 great
> > Ravel pianists, MA and ABM have
> > both avoided it. Does anyone know
> > why?
> >
> > Among recent performances Juan
> > Pérez Floristán is very good:
> >
> > https://youtu.be/Z9kIIQdMzHI
> >
> > dk
> It so happens that the Beroff was the first recording of the Ravel LH Concerto that I got on CD, back in the late 80's, though I haven't heard it in years. I just pulled it off the shelf to get re-acquainted. I don't know why MA/ABM have avoided it.
> Rick K

Maybe they were respecting those pianists without right arms?

Ray Hall, Taree

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by: JohnGavin - Mon, 10 Jul 2023 09:53 UTC

For me - DeLarrocha / Foster - Decca
2nd choice - Zimmerman / Boulez (largely for the orchestral contribution)

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by: Andy Evans - Mon, 10 Jul 2023 13:14 UTC

On Monday, 10 July 2023 at 10:53:50 UTC+1, JohnGavin wrote:
> For me - DeLarrocha / Foster - Decca
> 2nd choice - Zimmerman / Boulez (largely for the orchestral contribution)

I may be the odd one out here but I've never liked the LH Concerto and never listen to it. Like Bolero.

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by: Ed Presson - Mon, 10 Jul 2023 23:11 UTC

"Dan Koren" wrote in message
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>Among recent performances Juan
>P�rez Florist�n is very good:

>https://youtu.be/Z9kIIQdMzHI

>dk

I agree. Also the orchestra provides some individual touches of sarcasm,
gloom, and bitterness that
lies under Ravel's glittering orchestration. I would have like to been
there.

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by: Dan Koren - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 02:26 UTC

On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 6:14:35 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
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> I may be the odd one out here but I've
> never liked the LH Concerto and never
> listen to it. Like Bolero.

You are always the odd one everywhere.
Listen to this repeatedly until it sinks in:

https://youtu.be/1InbM8SFnwo

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by: Ed Presson - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 04:40 UTC

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>For me - DeLarrocha / Foster - Decca
>2nd choice - Zimmerman / Boulez (largely for the orchestral contribution)

I especially agree with the first, much less with the second

Ed Presson

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by: Dan Koren - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 05:56 UTC

You can't push on a string.

arts / rec.music.classical.recordings / Re: Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times

Subject	Author
Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times	Rick K
Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times	Dan Koren
Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times	Rick K
Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times	raymond....@gmail.com
Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times	JohnGavin
Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times	Andy Evans
Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times	Dan Koren
Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times	Dan Koren
Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times	Ed Presson
Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto 4 times	Ed Presson