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* Giulini and the Art of the InfluencerGerry
+* Giulini and the Art of the InfluencerAndy Evans
|`* Giulini and the Art of the InfluencerOwen Hartnett
| `* Giulini and the Art of the InfluencerHerman
|  `- Giulini and the Art of the InfluencerHerman
`* Giulini and the Art of the InfluencerAndrew Clarke
 `- Giulini and the Art of the InfluencerGraham

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 by: Gerry - Sun, 13 Aug 2023 10:13 UTC

https://drgeraldstein.wordpress.com/2023/08/13/carlo-maria-giulini-and-the-art-of-the-influencer/

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Subject: Re: Giulini and the Art of the Influencer
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 by: Andy Evans - Sun, 13 Aug 2023 14:13 UTC

On Sunday, 13 August 2023 at 11:13:20 UTC+1, Gerry wrote:
> https://drgeraldstein.wordpress.com/2023/08/13/carlo-maria-giulini-and-the-art-of-the-influencer/

This looks like it was posted by the blogger himself. A pretty generic blog to my taste. Could have gone deeper.

I think comparing Guilini to media influencers is rather tenuous.

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 by: Andrew Clarke - Sun, 13 Aug 2023 20:44 UTC

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:13:20 PM UTC+10, Gerry wrote:
> https://drgeraldstein.wordpress.com/2023/08/13/carlo-maria-giulini-and-the-art-of-the-influencer/

Dr Stein reminds us of the days when the BBC employed people of the calibre of John Amis to talk about music. They wouldn't do it now. Too elitist.
On You Tube there is a clip of a recent Prom performance of the Grand Grand Grand Concerto Populare, originally written for one of the Hoffnung Interplanetary Festivals. This time round, they employed a presenter to explain the jokes. Back in the 1950s, they didn't need one.

And how wonderful to have a Jewish psychiatrist in this group. We've been needing one for quite a while ...

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

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 by: Graham - Sun, 13 Aug 2023 21:03 UTC

On 2023-08-13 2:44 p.m., Andrew Clarke wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:13:20 PM UTC+10, Gerry wrote:
>> https://drgeraldstein.wordpress.com/2023/08/13/carlo-maria-giulini-and-the-art-of-the-influencer/
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> Dr Stein reminds us of the days when the BBC employed people of the calibre of John Amis to talk about music. They wouldn't do it now. Too elitist.

And Antony Hopkins! I used to listen to him regularly. He once explained
how Rachmaninov composed each variation in the Paganini Rhapsody.
Fascinating!

> On You Tube there is a clip of a recent Prom performance of the Grand Grand Grand Concerto Populare, originally written for one of the Hoffnung Interplanetary Festivals. This time round, they employed a presenter to explain the jokes. Back in the 1950s, they didn't need one.
>
He used the "Happy Wanderers", a well-known group of street buskers
in his Leonora #4. I wonder if such a group still plays. They were
always at the Notting Hill Gate Tube entrance every Tuesday morning
in 1970.

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On 2023-08-13 14:13:03 +0000, Andy Evans said:

> On Sunday, 13 August 2023 at 11:13:20 UTC+1, Gerry wrote:
>> https://drgeraldstein.wordpress.com/2023/08/13/carlo-maria-giulini-and-the-art-of-the-influencer/
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> This looks like it was posted by the blogger himself. A pretty generic
> blog to my taste. Could have gone deeper.
>
> I think comparing Guilini to media influencers is rather tenuous.

There's a popular meme going around of a man and woman in a cafe where
she says she's a social media influencer/model and he says he's a
soldier in Call of Duty.*

-Owen

*Call of Duty is a popular war video game, for you luddites and old
timers out there. :-)

-O

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It's a very longwinded and highly unspecific way of saying 'CMG is a conductor I like'.

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On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 5:32:34 AM UTC+2, Herman wrote:
> It's a very longwinded and highly unspecific way of saying 'CMG is a conductor I like'.

The piece also indulges in the old timey notion that orchestral performance would collapse without a conductor beating time.
Modern orchestras are composed of highly trained music professionals who actually do make the sound with or without the conductor. They know the repertoire inside out. The idea that orchestras would turn into rowdy mess without a guy for the audience to look comes from the era that orchestras were all basically pickup bands.


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