Rocksolid Light - rec.music.classical.recordings - Re: 20 Greatest Operas of All Time?

On 2023-08-27 10:18 a.m., Andy Evans wrote:
> Marriage of Figaro
> La Boheme
> Der Rosenkavalier
> Wozzeck
> Peter Grimes
> Tosca
> L'incoronazione di Poppea
> Don Giovanni
> Otello
> Tristan & Isolde
> Pelleas et Melisande
> La Traviata
> Eugene Onegin
> Jenufa
> Don Carlos
> Die Meistersinger von Nurnberg
> L'Orfeo
> Falstaff
> Giulio Cesare
> Die Walkure
>
> That's a pretty good list. The ones I listen to are Jenufa, Meistersinger, Walkure, Tristan, Pelleas.
>
> I'd add The Cunning Little Vixen and L'Enfant et les Sortileges.

I'd like to ban the use of "of all time"!!!!
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On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 4:30:18=E2=80=AFPM UTC+2, Notsure01 wrote=
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> >
> I hope they do - the only cost for Apple could be the disk space -=20

Obviously that is one of the first things any manager type eliminates.=20

Cloud thinkers don't want slow-moving physical inventory.
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In article <uec64u$2brnf$1@dont-email.me>,
mINE109 <pianoforte109@yahoo.com> wrote:
>The immigration out may be in part for the reasons listed but the
>fundamental problem is a lack of affordable housing.

More immigration out would help. It's not difficult to understand
that SF is not suffering from lack of money, but rather that the
huge quantity of money coming into the Bay Area, especially via the
internet industry, is causing skyrocketing rents & prices, turning
"regular people" into poor people & poor people into homeless. And
in California, unlike the vast majority of US states, there are
strict laws against raising most taxes, especially local taxes, so
that's not at all what's portrayed elsewhere either.

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On Sat, 07 Oct 2023 22:02:42 -0700, Mr. Mike wrote:

> https://www.amazon.com/Avant-Garde-Various-Artists/dp/B0C64B8P88
>
> Is the price on this serious? Relatively cheap at Amazon.ca.
>
> It is a box set with *21 CDs*.
>
> The heading for this offering seems totally wrong...

If you like, go ahead and order it, knowing you'll
have to return it when you get the wrong thing sent
from Japan.

It is indeed amazon's fault when they misidentify
products, as amazon makes an effort to keep it's
customers in the dark about what they ordering.

Amazon prefers to seen as welcoming returns rather
list catalog numbers or UPCs, and have the
decency to have a proper search engine.

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On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:29:41=E2=80=AFPM UTC+1, Frank Berger wr=
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>=20
> This is equivalent to a blind link. No comment, no question, no discussio=
n.

In the WAYLTL topic people just post what they're listening to. No discussi=
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Gr> I'd like to ban the use of "of all time"!!!!

Would you say its your least favorite phrase of all time?

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On 9/8/23 1:25 PM, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 9/8/2023 10:28 AM, mINE109 wrote:
>> On 9/7/23 10:01 PM, Frank Berger wrote:
>>> It was hardly obvious before the 1980s. IIRC global cooling was a
>>> cause de celebre in the 1970s.
>>
>> "Cause de celebre" as opposed to "scientifically valid." This is a
>> long-debunked point. From 2008:
>>
>> https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=4335191&page=1
>>
>> "Thomas Peterson of the National Climatic Data Center surveyed dozens
>> of peer-reviewed scientific articles from 1965 to 1979 and found that
>> only seven supported global cooling, while 44 predicted warming.
>> Peterson says 20 others were neutral in their assessments of climate
>> trends."
>>
>> The casual reader could reach the incorrect conclusion from the
>> popular press:
>>
>> "The '70s was an unusually cold decade. Newsweek, Time, The New York
>> Times and National Geographic published articles at the time
>> speculating on the causes of the unusual cold and about the
>> possibility of a new ice age."
>>
>> There was also a "nuclear winter" idea publicized in the eighties.
>
> Does any of this refute my point?

It adds context, but I do think "cause de celebre" is an exaggeration
and in recent decades references to "global cooling" are frequently
dodges from taking warming seriously.

> Are policy makers expected to read and evaluate scientific journals? Most of the doomsayers in the 1970s
> were always-wrong Malthusians.

Yes, please.

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On Saturday, December 16, 2017 at 5:56:47=E2=80=AFAM UTC-8, Bozo wrote:
> 50 minutes of comparative recordings and analysis by pianist David Owen N=
orris :=20
>=20
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09jbwhj=20
>=20
> Horowitz D.960 great ; Schnabel=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9C Mozart sonata =E2=80=
=9C reading ignoring tempo markings ; Zimerman =E2=80=9C too many Gothic ed=
ifices in every phrase=E2=80=9D ; R.Serkin=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9C honesty=E2=
=80=9D ; Pires =E2=80=9C melting icicles =E2=80=9C at the start of the slow=
mov. and the only one with courage to slow down for a difficult passage in=
the finale;=20
> Lupu=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9C vieled=E2=80=9D approach to the work ; Bilson's =
sound ; Richter,Eschenbach too slow ; several others pro and con.=20
>=20
> Horowitz,Bilson on fortepiano, Lupu, Pires, Serkin, Brendel (live) Owen=
=E2=80=99s favs, Pires=E2=80=99 2011 DDG cd his top choice.=20
>=20
>=20
> Also, some interesting comments on modern pianism and recording in genera=
l, as well as live in the room vs. recorded of that live, finding the piani=
sm of Hough and Andsnes unimaginative in general, that of Lewis,Douglas exa=
ggerated in general.

(2023 Y. upload):

"Schubert - Piano Sonata No. 21, in B flat. - the most beautiful piece ever=
written for solo piano?"
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Yes, it is a big fucking mess.

Searching for this box set using

dgg avant garde

on Amazon Canada, USA and UK produces nothing at the moment.

The ASIN on Amazon Germany, where there is a listing, is B0C64B8P88

Using that and searching on Canada, USA and UK produces results, but
there is nothing for sale at some of these.

According to Amazon Canada, I purchased this item on October 7th (the
last copy, I think).

The listing on Amazon Canada says "Avant-Garde Series / Various ...
Various Artists (Artist) Format: Audio CD ... Currently unavailable"

I have had weird things happen with Amazon before, for example ...

My favorite dishwasher soap used to be available there cheaply. But
the company that made it stopped making it (I e-mailed them to confirm
this).

BUT ... a couple of months later, Amazon.ca was selling boxes of this
dishwasher soap VERY cheaply ... the price was $7.50 or something for
a box which was twice the size of the box for the same price which I
could have paid in Vancouver before the stuff became unavailable.

I was quick to order 2 of these large boxes, which I received with no
problem ... probably enough soap for at least a year.

I figure someone found a pallet of this soap in the Amazon warehouse
and they decided to dump it quickly...

Things don't look promising considering what you have said for the
Avant Garde box, though.
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Subject	Author
20 Greatest Operas of All Time?	Andy Evans
20 Greatest Operas of All Time?	Graham
20 Greatest Operas of All Time?	candycane
Regretful news re r.m.c.r.'s indefatigable box set reviewer king,	Dan Koren
R.I.P. Zdenek Macal	Alex Brown