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* Maag Edition - Decca Eloquence - mastering/pressing defectRon Grames
+- Maag Edition - Decca Eloquence - mastering/pressing defectJeff
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Subject: Re: Maag Edition - Decca Eloquence - mastering/pressing defect
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 by: Ron Grames - Mon, 14 Aug 2023 06:15 UTC

Excuse my late addition, but here is an oddity: The Eloquence box of all of Fou Ts'ong's Westminster recordings has the Schumann and Chopin concertos (CD 7) in definite stereo. The placement of some wind instruments seems unrealistically wide, but there it is. I have the Maag box purchased with the corrected CD 1, but the CD 20 is still monaural, as are the K.509 German Dances.

Perhaps this has already been mentioned elsewhere, but if not I thought you would like to know.

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 by: Jeff - Thu, 31 Aug 2023 02:19 UTC

On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:15:03 AM UTC-4, Ron Grames wrote:
> Excuse my late addition, but here is an oddity: The Eloquence box of all of Fou Ts'ong's Westminster recordings has the Schumann and Chopin concertos (CD 7) in definite stereo. The placement of some wind instruments seems unrealistically wide, but there it is. I have the Maag box purchased with the corrected CD 1, but the CD 20 is still monaural, as are the K.509 German Dances.
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> Perhaps this has already been mentioned elsewhere, but if not I thought you would like to know.

Interestingly a previously issued single CD on Eloquence 480 3609 also has the German dances in mono, coupled with 2 concerti with Julius Katchen.

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 by: Jeff - Thu, 31 Aug 2023 02:19 UTC

On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:15:03 AM UTC-4, Ron Grames wrote:
> Excuse my late addition, but here is an oddity: The Eloquence box of all of Fou Ts'ong's Westminster recordings has the Schumann and Chopin concertos (CD 7) in definite stereo. The placement of some wind instruments seems unrealistically wide, but there it is. I have the Maag box purchased with the corrected CD 1, but the CD 20 is still monaural, as are the K.509 German Dances.
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> Perhaps this has already been mentioned elsewhere, but if not I thought you would like to know.

Interestingly a previously issued single CD on Eloquence 480 3609 also has the German dances in mono, coupled with 2 concerti with Julius Katchen.
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On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 8:49:15 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> https://www.wfmt.com/2016/10/10/8-chopin-recordings-every-music-lover-should-own/

(Y. upload):

"Legendary Recordings of Chopin"
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> > West Hill Radio Archives and EMI have two new releases (well, the WHRA
> > appears to have come out a couple of months ago, while the EMI is supposed
> > to come out due next month) with a fair amount of overlap; exactly how
> > much, I don't know, but it depends on which of two performances of the same
> > work is used in each. The boxes have different "missions," which one of
> > them appears to fulfill, while the other one fails its own mission. Guess
> > which one is the fails. I'll give you a hint: it rhymes with Bee Bem Bye.
> >
> > WHRA is entitled, "Toscanini in London: The Legendary 1935 Recordings,"
> > and is said to contain all of the works the Maestro performed, with HMV's
> > machines spinning away, in June of that year. The big news here is
> > threefold, as it contains the 14 June Beethoven 7th (from the 1980-ish
> > Seraphim LP boxed set which was its first official issue, and only on CD
> > from the crap label Grammofono 2000), the Geminiani Concerto Grosso Op. 3,
> > #2 (which I have wanted to hear ever since I read about it in the second
> > edition of Robert C. Marsh's book, neither edition of which has yet been
> > unpacked, meaning they must still be in the box with most of my pocket
> > scores), and, as a bonus, Beethoven's "Die Gesch�pfe des Prometheus"
> > Overture, from a 1939 recording session and previously available only in
> > that Seraphim LP set and the badly-transferred Grammofono CD.
> >
> > The EMI issue does not confine itself to 1935, of course. First of all, it
> > appears to contain all of the long-ago-commercially-issued HMV items, such
> > as Beethoven 1, 4, and 6, along with various overtures and other shorter
> > works. Whose transfer they are using for these, I do not know. Remember
> > that BMG, ahem, "appropriated" Mark Obert-Thorn's without credit, for their
> > big Toscanini box. Is it too much to hope for that they have ordered a new
> > remastering? Oh, wait, it's EMI, so they probably haven't. They also
> > include the various other items, such as Brahms 2nd, Sibelius 2nd, and
> > various Elgar, Debussy and Wagner which were issued on CD in the (I think)
> > '90s. They include a Beethoven 7th (which I'm not sure, but possibly the
> > same June 14 that WHRA has) and the "Prometheus."

It turns out that the WHRA set was the bad sounding set
because of noise reduction. EMI was better sounding with
less noise reduction.

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In article <04058230-77d8-4626-9160-0cf2023a880cn@googlegroups.com>,
Mandryka <howie.stone01@gmail.com> wrote:
>Someone (hint, hint Todd) should do a thorough review of Belder's
>new Byrd releases.

Well I've listened to the Fitzwilliam & My Ladye Nevells releases....
I guess I enjoyed the former more than the latter, but that's a lot
about expectations, and that MLNB possesses multiple previous
complete recordings.... None of it seemed revelatory, but solid.

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A Dacapo CD of the New York Philharmonic under Alan Gilbert in Nielsen's
Violin, Flute and Clarinet Concertos, with Nikolaj Znaider, Robert
Langevin, and Anthony McGill, all first-rate soloists. The recorded
sound is excellent, and NYP's percussion particularly stands out.
Three fine works; my favorite at the moment is the Clarinet Concerto,
which seems the most coherent of them. I'll leave any performance
comparisons to others.
--
Al Eisner
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