Rocksolid Light - rec.music.classical.recordings - Re: OT - Is it possible to predict the future?

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 8:15:20 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 9:02:06 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 11:11:25 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> > > (2022 Y. upload):
> > >
> > > "20th century was impossible to predict"
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEp8XGvT8MY&t=16s
> https://screenrant.com/great-sci-fi-movies-got-the-future-wrong/#rollerball-1975

(2023 Y. upload):

"Joe Rogan: "A Dystopian Future Might Be Closer Than Expected"
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On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 3:44:05 PM UTC+1, Gerard wrote:
> Op zaterdag 9 september 2023 om 15:17:06 UTC+2 schreef mswd...gmail.com:
> > On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:52:59 AM UTC-5, Herman wrote:
> > > On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 12:42:25 PM UTC+2, Gerard wrote:
> > > >
> > > > But are these really worth listening and acquiring?
> > > Of course not.
> > > What do you think is going to happen; you're suddenly going to think Tchaikovsky is a totally different composer than you thought he was?
> > > This is called the Connoisseur Fallacy.
> > > You mention a recording or performance that is not totally mainstream, you claim to hear things never heard before and talk as if it's a revelation.
> >
> > The actual answer is "who knows"? The role of the critic these days is not as important as it once was. Why waste your energies developing a grand theory of where a writer's taste intersects with sentiment (even if it does, even if patterns can be seen, even if it is verifiably real- is that worth your energies?) Get a free spotify account, suffer through some ads, and listen to them yourself. You'll be no poorer for it.
> >
> > I'm taking my own medicine on Spotify right now. I don't own a single Abravanel recording. Sampled R&J and Winter Dreams (pedantic and literal to my ears). Twelve minutes in, Manfred has quite good line- it's not a piece I know well or have liked much in the past. This one sounds fine so far, if not th ebest Tchaikovsky. YMMV.
> Only rarely I listen online, mostly sampling on prestomusic.com.
> In this case I listened to fragments of 2 symphonies and Manfred, and didn't hear anything "special", except for beginning of the last movement of Manfred, but nothing that could make this recording unique or incomparable or better than anyone else.
> I suppose we can expect more D.H. videos like this about the Vox rereleases. The 2 Gershwin disks with Slatkin are in the same category (Slatkin seems te be a personal friend of D.H.).

Since practically everything you want to hear these days is on YouTube, why not listen and see what you think? ... For example ...

Abravanel conducts Tchaikovsky 1st Symphony complete ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wizk4Bkgco

Ditto the 2nd Symphony ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSq31gc15go

Dittto the 4th Symphony ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcfsdj0YRcQ

The 5th is uploaded in its four separate movements, so just do the usual search.

Ditto the 6th Symphony complete ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS--bqDL160
Highlights from "Swan Lake" are on there plus the "1812 Overture" should anyone wish to investigate further, along with numerous uploads of D Hurtwiz raving about every Abravanel / Tchaikovsky recording ever issued.

Best of luck!

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On 9/20/2023 10:51 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 4:38:21 AM UTC+10, Frank Berger wrote:
>> On 9/20/2023 4:24 AM, Herman wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 5:55:52 AM UTC+2, Andrew Clarke wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, I am not an American, I do not belong to the Republican Party and I do not hold the prejudices, real or imaginary, of the American far right, although you did once brand me a terrible racist for suggesting that African American hoods in places like St Louis are not safe places for Caucasians to take a stroll after dark.
>>>
>>> well I'm sorry if said that.
>>> I have been on foot in St Louis a couple of times (in the previous century) and sometimes we were the only white people around.
>>> I'm still here...
>> Which is good for you but says zero about the level of danger you were in. Speaking of statistics, in Baltimore, the MSM and the City government are touting the drop in carjackings from last year to this. Funny (or not) thing is, this is due to the criminal gangs switching from carjacking to auto theft ( a separate, ignored, statistic) which has increased something like 5 fold. Why? because the gangs employ young teens to steal the cars. There is a catch and release policy in effect for juveniles in Baltimore. Get pinched for stealing a car? No problem, you are released on-site and are free to go steal another car.
>
> So far as St Louis is concerned, I believe the place to avoid is East St Louis, across the river in Illinois, a classic rust belt town. I've seen videos of the hoods in Baltimore, including West Baltimore where violent crime is said to be limited to just a few blocks and usually related to gang rivalries.
> The use of juveniles to steal cars used to be a feature of life in Sydney, and probably still is. Even nastier is the 'county lines' traffic in the United Kingdom, where juveniles are used to ferry small quantities of very hard drugs to users, again to avoid criminal charges.
> I've seen a few videos taken by guys driving around the tougher areas of Baltimore: what seems unique to the place is the erection of new facades over the frontages of row houses to brighten the place up a bit.
> I don't know what the solution to America's urban and rural decay might be, especially when it's got to the stage where houses are being left to collapse, or else burnt down, small businesses are abandoned as empty shells, minus the roofs and facades. Throwing money at the problem doesn't seem to work.
> Is the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra a public good? Does it receive state or municipal funding? Should it?
>
> Andrew Clarke
> Canberra

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