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Subject: Re: The Enigma
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 by: Kerrison - Wed, 18 Oct 2023 13:57 UTC

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:33:43 AM UTC+1, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
> https://youtu.be/PSlAv0b2WRc?si=giF_FErfbh3rY-jZ
>
> Here is a 25 min video clip of a rehearsal given by Leonard Bernstein of Elgar's Enigma Variations with the BBC SO, a performance recorded c.1982. The recording took over 6 minutes for Nimrod, and it rests with others as to whether the tempo pushes the limits.
> Anyway this a look at a great conductor, and he was, and of which we are relatively poorly off with the crop waving batons around today.
>
> Ray Hall, Taree

Bernstein's "Nimrod" was extracted from his concert performance and can also be seen on YouTube. It has attracted well over 300 comments under the video, ranging from "ridiculous" to "just glorious" and "definitely the best version ever" to "this is horrendous!" ... Is it just a case of "one man's meat is another man's poison"? ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8NOVGHJmRs

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Subject: Re: The Enigma
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 by: Kerrison - Wed, 18 Oct 2023 21:41 UTC

On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 2:57:22 PM UTC+1, Kerrison wrote:
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:33:43 AM UTC+1, raymond....gmail..com wrote:
> > https://youtu.be/PSlAv0b2WRc?si=giF_FErfbh3rY-jZ
> >
> > Here is a 25 min video clip of a rehearsal given by Leonard Bernstein of Elgar's Enigma Variations with the BBC SO, a performance recorded c.1982. The recording took over 6 minutes for Nimrod, and it rests with others as to whether the tempo pushes the limits.
> > Anyway this a look at a great conductor, and he was, and of which we are relatively poorly off with the crop waving batons around today.
> >
> > Ray Hall, Taree
> Bernstein's "Nimrod" was extracted from his concert performance and can also be seen on YouTube. It has attracted well over 300 comments under the video, ranging from "ridiculous" to "just glorious" and "definitely the best version ever" to "this is horrendous!" ... Is it just a case of "one man's meat is another man's poison"? ...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8NOVGHJmRs

Interestingly, in the rehearsal of "Nimrod" the woodwinds were a fraction slower when they come in than they were in the concert performance. Whether it was Bernstein who moved it along very slightly at that point, or whether the woodwind players decided to take matters into their own hands, one doesn't know. In any case, it frequently happens that rehearsals don't necessarily match the concert performance, as any orchestral player will confirm ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18sT5D3bKnc&t=135s

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Subject: Re: The Enigma
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 by: raymond....@gmail.co - Wed, 18 Oct 2023 23:16 UTC

On Thursday, 19 October 2023 at 00:57:22 UTC+11, Kerrison wrote:
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:33:43 AM UTC+1, raymond....gmail..com wrote:
> > https://youtu.be/PSlAv0b2WRc?si=giF_FErfbh3rY-jZ
> >
> > Here is a 25 min video clip of a rehearsal given by Leonard Bernstein of Elgar's Enigma Variations with the BBC SO, a performance recorded c.1982. The recording took over 6 minutes for Nimrod, and it rests with others as to whether the tempo pushes the limits.
> > Anyway this a look at a great conductor, and he was, and of which we are relatively poorly off with the crop waving batons around today.
> >
> > Ray Hall, Taree
> Bernstein's "Nimrod" was extracted from his concert performance and can also be seen on YouTube. It has attracted well over 300 comments under the video, ranging from "ridiculous" to "just glorious" and "definitely the best version ever" to "this is horrendous!" ... Is it just a case of "one man's meat is another man's poison"? ...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8NOVGHJmRs

For me the structure begins to lose it's shape at this speed, but each to their own.

Ray Hall, Taree

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 by: raymond....@gmail.co - Wed, 18 Oct 2023 23:22 UTC

On Thursday, 19 October 2023 at 00:57:22 UTC+11, Kerrison wrote:
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:33:43 AM UTC+1, raymond....gmail..com wrote:
> > https://youtu.be/PSlAv0b2WRc?si=giF_FErfbh3rY-jZ
> >
> > Here is a 25 min video clip of a rehearsal given by Leonard Bernstein of Elgar's Enigma Variations with the BBC SO, a performance recorded c.1982. The recording took over 6 minutes for Nimrod, and it rests with others as to whether the tempo pushes the limits.
> > Anyway this a look at a great conductor, and he was, and of which we are relatively poorly off with the crop waving batons around today.
> >
> > Ray Hall, Taree
> Bernstein's "Nimrod" was extracted from his concert performance and can also be seen on YouTube. It has attracted well over 300 comments under the video, ranging from "ridiculous" to "just glorious" and "definitely the best version ever" to "this is horrendous!" ... Is it just a case of "one man's meat is another man's poison"? ...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8NOVGHJmRs

https://youtu.be/LAhH4Fkahgo?si=KIxqBHfm0d8bGprs

Anna Rakitina gets closer to an ideal speed with the above recording in Boston.

Ray Hall, Taree

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