On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:15:06 AM UTC-8, Manypeopletrytosee99 wrote:
> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 6:51:47 PM UTC+10:30, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 9:11:26 PM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> > > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 5:41:28 AM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Whom are you kidding? While this newsgroup is nominally about
> > > > recordings of classical music (however one defines its boundaries),
> > > > in reality it just a forum for old people to revel in reminiscing about
> > > > the recordings they heard 50+ years ago. Hardly anyone mentions
> > > > more recent performances (say, post 1990), and then often only
> > > > as pivots to point out how inferior they are to the older ones.
> > > That's a charicature. But yeah, I could do a year without the name 'Szell'. Or 'Heifetz' for that matter. (Ring a bell?) However, few people here, among them you, seem to be aware composing CM did not stop in the year 1900. I think Todd mentioned this strange phenom.
> > > >
> > > > As everyone knows, during the 4th century BC the Greeks were
> > > > bemoaning the 5th century BC when everything was so much
> > > > "better".
> > > they had a reason. If you mean 'Athens' by 'the Greeks' (which is what most people do), they had disastrously lost the war to Sparta (413); their fleet had been destroyed, and thus their empire was gone, and there had been a devastating coup by a small band of aristocrats who methodically killed whoever they could not use and took their money and land. After a little while the Macedonians came and took over. For the Athenians who wrote history or philosophy, the ones through whose lens we even know about this, life had irrevocably changed.
> > According to this 2022 book:
> >
> > - Throughout world history, the monarchs who have wielded the greatest amount of power are those who enjoy broad popular support, generally from the lower classes. Such monarchs are often spearheaded to power by overthrowing an aristocratic regime. This enables them to rule as populists in the interests of the many and against the interests of the elite. Examples include most of the Greek "tyrants" of the period 650 to 530 BCE...
> >
> > https://books.google.com/books?id=5sNdEAAAQBAJ&pg=PT344&dq=%22Throughout+world+history,+the+monarchs+who+have+wielded+the+greatest+amount+of+power%22%22&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZkdiw0Zv7AhXfLkQIHZU7BxUQ6AF6BAgHEAI#v=onepage&q=%22Throughout%20world%20history%2C%20the%20monarchs%20who%20have%20wielded%20the%20greatest%20amount%20of%20power%22%22&f=false
> That book lists Mao Zedong as a populist. He caused the largest famine in written history.......... Almost entirely poor peasants............

(2023 Y. upload):

"How did 80 Million People Die in Maoist China? | History of China 1955-1970 Documentary 8/10"