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Ask the Rabbi:

Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"

Answer: "Absolutely not!"

Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"

A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."

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 by: Dan Koren - Thu, 15 Jun 2023 18:40 UTC

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> Ask the Rabbi:
>
> Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
>
> Answer: "Absolutely not!"
>
> Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
>
> A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."

This is older than anyone in this ng.
And you missed a couple of details.

There are also more piquant versions.

Did your parents just placed you in
a yeshiva? ;-)

Maybe in 7 years we can call you
"Rabbi". Or 5 if you stand out as a
student.

dk

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 by: Marc S - Fri, 16 Jun 2023 06:20 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2023 um 20:40:39 UTC+2:
> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Ask the Rabbi:
> >
> > Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> >
> > Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> >
> > Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> >
> > A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> This is older than anyone in this ng.

Some things of the past surely deserve to be kept alive ;)

> And you missed a couple of details.
>

It's how I got to know the joke in German.

> There are also more piquant versions.

Googled it:

"Cecil and Morris are walking to services. Cecil asks, "I wonder whether it would be all right to smoke while praying?"

"Why don't you ask the rabbi?" says Morris.

Cecil sees Rabbi Golden and asks, "Rabbi, is it permissible for me to smoke while I pray?"

"No, you may not. That's utterly disrespectful to our tradition!" answers the rabbi.

Cecil goes back to his friend and tells him what the good Rabbi told him.

"I'm not surprised. You asked the wrong question. Let me try."

Morris goes over to the rabbi and asks, "Rabbi, would it be ok if I prayed while I smoke?"

To which Rabbi Golden eagerly replies, "By all means, my good man. By all means.""

>
> Did your parents just placed you in
> a yeshiva? ;-)

They placed me in a yuchiwon :)

>
> Maybe in 7 years we can call you
> "Rabbi". Or 5 if you stand out as a
> student.

My chaver, it's rather that one day the Rabbis will call me a tzadik ;D

>
> dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Fri, 16 Jun 2023 14:19 UTC

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 11:20:06 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> Dan Koren schrieb am Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2023 um 20:40:39 UTC+2:
> > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > Ask the Rabbi:
> > >
> > > Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> > >
> > > Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> > >
> > > Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> > >
> > > A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> > This is older than anyone in this ng.
> Some things of the past surely deserve to be kept alive ;)
> > And you missed a couple of details.
> >
> It's how I got to know the joke in German.
> > There are also more piquant versions.
> Googled it:
>
> "Cecil and Morris are walking to services. Cecil asks, "I wonder whether it would be all right to smoke while praying?"
>
> "Why don't you ask the rabbi?" says Morris.
>
> Cecil sees Rabbi Golden and asks, "Rabbi, is it permissible for me to smoke while I pray?"
>
> "No, you may not. That's utterly disrespectful to our tradition!" answers the rabbi.
>
> Cecil goes back to his friend and tells him what the good Rabbi told him.
>
> "I'm not surprised. You asked the wrong question. Let me try."
>
> Morris goes over to the rabbi and asks, "Rabbi, would it be ok if I prayed while I smoke?"
>
> To which Rabbi Golden eagerly replies, "By all means, my good man. By all means.""

There are even spicier versions not fit to print.

dk

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 by: Marc S - Sat, 17 Jun 2023 05:41 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Freitag, 16. Juni 2023 um 16:20:01 UTC+2:
> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 11:20:06 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Dan Koren schrieb am Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2023 um 20:40:39 UTC+2:
> > > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > > Ask the Rabbi:
> > > >
> > > > Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> > > >
> > > > Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> > > >
> > > > Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> > > >
> > > > A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> > > This is older than anyone in this ng.
> > Some things of the past surely deserve to be kept alive ;)
> > > And you missed a couple of details.
> > >
> > It's how I got to know the joke in German.
> > > There are also more piquant versions.
> > Googled it:
> >
> > "Cecil and Morris are walking to services. Cecil asks, "I wonder whether it would be all right to smoke while praying?"
> >
> > "Why don't you ask the rabbi?" says Morris.
> >
> > Cecil sees Rabbi Golden and asks, "Rabbi, is it permissible for me to smoke while I pray?"
> >
> > "No, you may not. That's utterly disrespectful to our tradition!" answers the rabbi.
> >
> > Cecil goes back to his friend and tells him what the good Rabbi told him.
> >
> > "I'm not surprised. You asked the wrong question. Let me try."
> >
> > Morris goes over to the rabbi and asks, "Rabbi, would it be ok if I prayed while I smoke?"
> >
> > To which Rabbi Golden eagerly replies, "By all means, my good man. By all means.""
> There are even spicier versions not fit to print.

I am waiting for evidence...

>
> dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Sat, 17 Jun 2023 06:28 UTC

On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 10:41:25 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> Dan Koren schrieb am Freitag, 16. Juni 2023 um 16:20:01 UTC+2:
> > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 11:20:06 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > Dan Koren schrieb am Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2023 um 20:40:39 UTC+2:
> > > > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > > > Ask the Rabbi:
> > > > >
> > > > > Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> > > > >
> > > > > Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> > > > >
> > > > > Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> > > > >
> > > > > A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> > > > This is older than anyone in this ng.
> > > Some things of the past surely deserve to be kept alive ;)
> > > > And you missed a couple of details.
> > > >
> > > It's how I got to know the joke in German.
> > > > There are also more piquant versions.
> > > Googled it:
> > >
> > > "Cecil and Morris are walking to services. Cecil asks, "I wonder whether it would be all right to smoke while praying?"
> > >
> > > "Why don't you ask the rabbi?" says Morris.
> > >
> > > Cecil sees Rabbi Golden and asks, "Rabbi, is it permissible for me to smoke while I pray?"
> > >
> > > "No, you may not. That's utterly disrespectful to our tradition!" answers the rabbi.
> > >
> > > Cecil goes back to his friend and tells him what the good Rabbi told him.
> > >
> > > "I'm not surprised. You asked the wrong question. Let me try."
> > >
> > > Morris goes over to the rabbi and asks, "Rabbi, would it be ok if I prayed while I smoke?"
> > >
> > > To which Rabbi Golden eagerly replies, "By all means, my good man. By all means.""
> > There are even spicier versions not fit to print.
> I am waiting for evidence...

As I said, "not fit to print".
Ask your rabbi. He or she
probably knows some of
the spicier versions.

dk

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Dan Koren schrieb am Samstag, 17. Juni 2023 um 08:28:07 UTC+2:
> On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 10:41:25 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Dan Koren schrieb am Freitag, 16. Juni 2023 um 16:20:01 UTC+2:
> > > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 11:20:06 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > > Dan Koren schrieb am Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2023 um 20:40:39 UTC+2:
> > > > > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > > > > Ask the Rabbi:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> > > > > This is older than anyone in this ng.
> > > > Some things of the past surely deserve to be kept alive ;)
> > > > > And you missed a couple of details.
> > > > >
> > > > It's how I got to know the joke in German.
> > > > > There are also more piquant versions.
> > > > Googled it:
> > > >
> > > > "Cecil and Morris are walking to services. Cecil asks, "I wonder whether it would be all right to smoke while praying?"
> > > >
> > > > "Why don't you ask the rabbi?" says Morris.
> > > >
> > > > Cecil sees Rabbi Golden and asks, "Rabbi, is it permissible for me to smoke while I pray?"
> > > >
> > > > "No, you may not. That's utterly disrespectful to our tradition!" answers the rabbi.
> > > >
> > > > Cecil goes back to his friend and tells him what the good Rabbi told him.
> > > >
> > > > "I'm not surprised. You asked the wrong question. Let me try."
> > > >
> > > > Morris goes over to the rabbi and asks, "Rabbi, would it be ok if I prayed while I smoke?"
> > > >
> > > > To which Rabbi Golden eagerly replies, "By all means, my good man. By all means.""
> > > There are even spicier versions not fit to print.
> > I am waiting for evidence...
> As I said, "not fit to print".
> Ask your rabbi. He or she
> probably knows some of
> the spicier versions.
>
> dk

Now you are being politically correct?

Whatever version you are thinking about, I do not believe it has much to do with mine... probably sth antisemitic or sth tasteless wrt the shoah.

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 by: Dan Koren - Sat, 17 Jun 2023 06:39 UTC

On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 11:35:35 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> Dan Koren schrieb am Samstag, 17. Juni 2023 um 08:28:07 UTC+2:
> > On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 10:41:25 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > Dan Koren schrieb am Freitag, 16. Juni 2023 um 16:20:01 UTC+2:
> > > > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 11:20:06 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > > > Dan Koren schrieb am Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2023 um 20:40:39 UTC+2:
> > > > > > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > > > > > Ask the Rabbi:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> > > > > > This is older than anyone in this ng.
> > > > > Some things of the past surely deserve to be kept alive ;)
> > > > > > And you missed a couple of details.
> > > > > >
> > > > > It's how I got to know the joke in German.
> > > > > > There are also more piquant versions.
> > > > > Googled it:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Cecil and Morris are walking to services. Cecil asks, "I wonder whether it would be all right to smoke while praying?"
> > > > >
> > > > > "Why don't you ask the rabbi?" says Morris.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cecil sees Rabbi Golden and asks, "Rabbi, is it permissible for me to smoke while I pray?"
> > > > >
> > > > > "No, you may not. That's utterly disrespectful to our tradition!" answers the rabbi.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cecil goes back to his friend and tells him what the good Rabbi told him.
> > > > >
> > > > > "I'm not surprised. You asked the wrong question. Let me try."
> > > > >
> > > > > Morris goes over to the rabbi and asks, "Rabbi, would it be ok if I prayed while I smoke?"
> > > > >
> > > > > To which Rabbi Golden eagerly replies, "By all means, my good man.. By all means.""
> > > > There are even spicier versions not fit to print.
> > > I am waiting for evidence...
> > As I said, "not fit to print".
> > Ask your rabbi. He or she
> > probably knows some of
> > the spicier versions.
>
> Now you are being politically correct?

Nope. Just trying to keep away
from Herman's wrath. Keep in
mind too that this is Friday
night in the US.
> Whatever version you are thinking about,
> I do not believe it has much to do with mine...

They are all variations on the same theme.
Someone as smart as you ought to have
figured this out already.

> probably sth antisemitic or sth tasteless
> wrt the shoah.

No connection. Use your imagination to
connect the dots -- if you have any left.

dk

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 by: Marc S - Sat, 17 Jun 2023 06:58 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Samstag, 17. Juni 2023 um 08:39:19 UTC+2:
> On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 11:35:35 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Dan Koren schrieb am Samstag, 17. Juni 2023 um 08:28:07 UTC+2:
> > > On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 10:41:25 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > > Dan Koren schrieb am Freitag, 16. Juni 2023 um 16:20:01 UTC+2:
> > > > > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 11:20:06 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > > > > Dan Koren schrieb am Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2023 um 20:40:39 UTC+2:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > > > > > > Ask the Rabbi:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> > > > > > > This is older than anyone in this ng.
> > > > > > Some things of the past surely deserve to be kept alive ;)
> > > > > > > And you missed a couple of details.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > It's how I got to know the joke in German.
> > > > > > > There are also more piquant versions.
> > > > > > Googled it:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Cecil and Morris are walking to services. Cecil asks, "I wonder whether it would be all right to smoke while praying?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Why don't you ask the rabbi?" says Morris.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cecil sees Rabbi Golden and asks, "Rabbi, is it permissible for me to smoke while I pray?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "No, you may not. That's utterly disrespectful to our tradition!" answers the rabbi.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cecil goes back to his friend and tells him what the good Rabbi told him.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "I'm not surprised. You asked the wrong question. Let me try."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Morris goes over to the rabbi and asks, "Rabbi, would it be ok if I prayed while I smoke?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To which Rabbi Golden eagerly replies, "By all means, my good man. By all means.""
> > > > > There are even spicier versions not fit to print.
> > > > I am waiting for evidence...
> > > As I said, "not fit to print".
> > > Ask your rabbi. He or she
> > > probably knows some of
> > > the spicier versions.
> >
> > Now you are being politically correct?
> Nope. Just trying to keep away
> from Herman's wrath. Keep in
> mind too that this is Friday
> night in the US.

Gut Schabbes!

> > Whatever version you are thinking about,
> > I do not believe it has much to do with mine...
> They are all variations on the same theme.
> Someone as smart as you ought to have
> figured this out already.

If they are all just variations on the same theme, they would not be not fit to print; I imagine even a monkey like you would have figured this out?

> > probably sth antisemitic or sth tasteless
> > wrt the shoah.
> No connection. Use your imagination to
> connect the dots -- if you have any left.

I connected the dots and it's obvious that you are retarded.

>
> dk

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 by: Frank Berger - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 03:45 UTC

On 6/15/2023 2:40 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
>> Ask the Rabbi:
>>
>> Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
>>
>> Answer: "Absolutely not!"
>>
>> Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
>>
>> A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
>
> This is older than anyone in this ng.
> And you missed a couple of details.
>
> There are also more piquant versions.
>
> Did your parents just placed you in
> a yeshiva? ;-)
>
> Maybe in 7 years we can call you
> "Rabbi". Or 5 if you stand out as a
> student.
>
> dk

This a kind of joke that is funny on the surface, but if you think for a second, you realize its premise is flawed.

Translation: You shouldn't smoke while praying, but if you are smoking and feel the need to pray (as in not get lung cancer), you are permitted. It's not really funny.

George Carlin made a living doing this kind of thing.

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 by: Dan Koren - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 03:58 UTC

On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:46:10 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 6/15/2023 2:40 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> >> Ask the Rabbi:
> >>
> >> Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> >>
> >> Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> >>
> >> Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> >>
> >> A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> >
> > This is older than anyone in this ng.
> > And you missed a couple of details.
> >
> > There are also more piquant versions.
> >
> > Did your parents just placed you in
> > a yeshiva? ;-)
> >
> > Maybe in 7 years we can call you
> > "Rabbi". Or 5 if you stand out as a
> > student.
>
> This a kind of joke that is funny on
> the surface, but if you think for a
> second, you realize its premise is
> flawed.

So are many other jokes. What else
is new?

> Translation: You shouldn't smoke
> while praying, but if you are smoking
> and feel the need to pray (as in not get
> lung cancer), you are permitted. It's not
> really funny.

So are many other jokes. What else
is new?

dk

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 by: Frank Berger - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 04:27 UTC

On 6/17/2023 11:58 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:46:10 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
>> On 6/15/2023 2:40 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
>>>> Ask the Rabbi:
>>>>
>>>> Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
>>>>
>>>> Answer: "Absolutely not!"
>>>>
>>>> Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
>>>>
>>>> A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
>>>
>>> This is older than anyone in this ng.
>>> And you missed a couple of details.
>>>
>>> There are also more piquant versions.
>>>
>>> Did your parents just placed you in
>>> a yeshiva? ;-)
>>>
>>> Maybe in 7 years we can call you
>>> "Rabbi". Or 5 if you stand out as a
>>> student.
>>
>> This a kind of joke that is funny on
>> the surface, but if you think for a
>> second, you realize its premise is
>> flawed.
>
> So are many other jokes. What else
> is new?
>
>> Translation: You shouldn't smoke
>> while praying, but if you are smoking
>> and feel the need to pray (as in not get
>> lung cancer), you are permitted. It's not
>> really funny.
>
> So are many other jokes. What else
> is new?
>
> dk

I mention it because I think this is a lower form of humor. Almost dishonest. Not that i can't be tricked into laughing at some a joke.

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 by: Dan Koren - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 04:30 UTC

On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 6/17/2023 11:58 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:46:10 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> >> On 6/15/2023 2:40 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> >>>> Ask the Rabbi:
> >>>>
> >>>> Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> >>>>
> >>>> Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> >>>>
> >>>> Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> >>>>
> >>>> A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> >>>
> >>> This is older than anyone in this ng.
> >>> And you missed a couple of details.
> >>>
> >>> There are also more piquant versions.
> >>>
> >>> Did your parents just placed you in
> >>> a yeshiva? ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Maybe in 7 years we can call you
> >>> "Rabbi". Or 5 if you stand out as a
> >>> student.
> >>
> >> This a kind of joke that is funny on
> >> the surface, but if you think for a
> >> second, you realize its premise is
> >> flawed.
> >
> > So are many other jokes. What else
> > is new?
> >
> >> Translation: You shouldn't smoke
> >> while praying, but if you are smoking
> >> and feel the need to pray (as in not get
> >> lung cancer), you are permitted. It's not
> >> really funny.
> >
> > So are many other jokes. What else
> > is new?
>
> I mention it because I think this is a lower
> form of humor. Almost dishonest. Not that
> i can't be tricked into laughing at some a joke.

Many forms of humor are "low".

dk

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 by: Marc S - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 06:44 UTC

Frank Berger schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 06:27:35 UTC+2:
> On 6/17/2023 11:58 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:46:10 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> >> On 6/15/2023 2:40 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> >>>> Ask the Rabbi:
> >>>>
> >>>> Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> >>>>
> >>>> Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> >>>>
> >>>> Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> >>>>
> >>>> A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> >>>
> >>> This is older than anyone in this ng.
> >>> And you missed a couple of details.
> >>>
> >>> There are also more piquant versions.
> >>>
> >>> Did your parents just placed you in
> >>> a yeshiva? ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Maybe in 7 years we can call you
> >>> "Rabbi". Or 5 if you stand out as a
> >>> student.
> >>
> >> This a kind of joke that is funny on
> >> the surface, but if you think for a
> >> second, you realize its premise is
> >> flawed.
> >
> > So are many other jokes. What else
> > is new?
> >
> >> Translation: You shouldn't smoke
> >> while praying, but if you are smoking
> >> and feel the need to pray (as in not get
> >> lung cancer), you are permitted. It's not
> >> really funny.
> >
> > So are many other jokes. What else
> > is new?
> >
> > dk
> I mention it because I think this is a lower form of humor. Almost dishonest. Not that i can't be tricked into laughing at some a joke.

Surely the Rabbis at aish see this differently:

https://aish.com/51478332/

Maybe Mr Berger can write them an e-mail and enlighten the Rabbis at aish how this is a lower form of humor and how it's almost dishonest.

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 by: Marc S - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 06:45 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 05:58:32 UTC+2:
> On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:46:10 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> > On 6/15/2023 2:40 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > >> Ask the Rabbi:
> > >>
> > >> Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> > >>
> > >> Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> > >>
> > >> Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> > >>
> > >> A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> > >
> > > This is older than anyone in this ng.
> > > And you missed a couple of details.
> > >
> > > There are also more piquant versions.
> > >
> > > Did your parents just placed you in
> > > a yeshiva? ;-)
> > >
> > > Maybe in 7 years we can call you
> > > "Rabbi". Or 5 if you stand out as a
> > > student.
> >
> > This a kind of joke that is funny on
> > the surface, but if you think for a
> > second, you realize its premise is
> > flawed.
> So are many other jokes. What else
> is new?
> > Translation: You shouldn't smoke
> > while praying, but if you are smoking
> > and feel the need to pray (as in not get
> > lung cancer), you are permitted. It's not
> > really funny.
> So are many other jokes. What else
> is new?

Frank very much comes off like a German in his handling of this joke haha.... like he is explaining how it doesn't make sense if you looked at it more closely... oh god... ;D

>
> dk

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 by: Marc S - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 06:48 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 06:30:53 UTC+2:
> On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> > On 6/17/2023 11:58 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:46:10 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> > >> On 6/15/2023 2:40 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > >>> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > >>>> Ask the Rabbi:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> > >>>>
> > >>>> A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> > >>>
> > >>> This is older than anyone in this ng.
> > >>> And you missed a couple of details.
> > >>>
> > >>> There are also more piquant versions.
> > >>>
> > >>> Did your parents just placed you in
> > >>> a yeshiva? ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Maybe in 7 years we can call you
> > >>> "Rabbi". Or 5 if you stand out as a
> > >>> student.
> > >>
> > >> This a kind of joke that is funny on
> > >> the surface, but if you think for a
> > >> second, you realize its premise is
> > >> flawed.
> > >
> > > So are many other jokes. What else
> > > is new?
> > >
> > >> Translation: You shouldn't smoke
> > >> while praying, but if you are smoking
> > >> and feel the need to pray (as in not get
> > >> lung cancer), you are permitted. It's not
> > >> really funny.
> > >
> > > So are many other jokes. What else
> > > is new?
> >
> > I mention it because I think this is a lower
> > form of humor. Almost dishonest. Not that
> > i can't be tricked into laughing at some a joke.
> Many forms of humor are "low".

"Tricked into laughing at some joke"... "Tricked"... wtf... either you get it and find it funny or you don't - or you go full German and explain why this joke doesn't make sense if you thought about it more thoroughly...

Herr Frank Berger...

>
> dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 06:54 UTC

On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 11:44:06 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> Frank Berger schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 06:27:35 UTC+2:
> > On 6/17/2023 11:58 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:46:10 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> > >> On 6/15/2023 2:40 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > >>> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > >>>> Ask the Rabbi:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> > >>>>
> > >>>> A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> > >>>
> > >>> This is older than anyone in this ng.
> > >>> And you missed a couple of details.
> > >>>
> > >>> There are also more piquant versions.
> > >>>
> > >>> Did your parents just placed you in
> > >>> a yeshiva? ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Maybe in 7 years we can call you
> > >>> "Rabbi". Or 5 if you stand out as a
> > >>> student.
> > >>
> > >> This a kind of joke that is funny on
> > >> the surface, but if you think for a
> > >> second, you realize its premise is
> > >> flawed.
> > >
> > > So are many other jokes. What else
> > > is new?
> > >
> > >> Translation: You shouldn't smoke
> > >> while praying, but if you are smoking
> > >> and feel the need to pray (as in not get
> > >> lung cancer), you are permitted. It's not
> > >> really funny.
> > >
> > > So are many other jokes. What else
> > > is new?
> >
> > I mention it because I think this is a lower
> > form of humor. Almost dishonest. Not that i
> > can't be tricked into laughing at some a joke.
> > Surely the Rabbis at aish see this differently:
>
> https://aish.com/51478332/
>
> Maybe Mr Berger can write them an e-mail and
> enlighten the Rabbis at aish how this is a lower
> form of humor and how it's almost dishonest.

AISH is not normative for anything or anybody.
AISH rabbies are no smarter than other rabbies.

dk

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 by: Marc S - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 06:57 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 08:54:20 UTC+2:
> On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 11:44:06 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Frank Berger schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 06:27:35 UTC+2:
> > > On 6/17/2023 11:58 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:46:10 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> > > >> On 6/15/2023 2:40 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > >>> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > >>>> Ask the Rabbi:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This is older than anyone in this ng.
> > > >>> And you missed a couple of details.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There are also more piquant versions.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Did your parents just placed you in
> > > >>> a yeshiva? ;-)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Maybe in 7 years we can call you
> > > >>> "Rabbi". Or 5 if you stand out as a
> > > >>> student.
> > > >>
> > > >> This a kind of joke that is funny on
> > > >> the surface, but if you think for a
> > > >> second, you realize its premise is
> > > >> flawed.
> > > >
> > > > So are many other jokes. What else
> > > > is new?
> > > >
> > > >> Translation: You shouldn't smoke
> > > >> while praying, but if you are smoking
> > > >> and feel the need to pray (as in not get
> > > >> lung cancer), you are permitted. It's not
> > > >> really funny.
> > > >
> > > > So are many other jokes. What else
> > > > is new?
> > >
> > > I mention it because I think this is a lower
> > > form of humor. Almost dishonest. Not that i
> > > can't be tricked into laughing at some a joke.
> > > Surely the Rabbis at aish see this differently:
> >
> > https://aish.com/51478332/
> >
> > Maybe Mr Berger can write them an e-mail and
> > enlighten the Rabbis at aish how this is a lower
> > form of humor and how it's almost dishonest.
> AISH is not normative for anything or anybody.
> AISH rabbies are no smarter than other rabbies.
>
> dk

Well... I was not serious... it was just said in context of Frank being orthodox and that instead of complaining about this Joke in the manner of a German, he should listen to his Rabbis ;D

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 by: Marc S - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 07:02 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 08:54:20 UTC+2:
> On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 11:44:06 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Frank Berger schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 06:27:35 UTC+2:
> > > On 6/17/2023 11:58 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:46:10 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> > > >> On 6/15/2023 2:40 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > >>> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > >>>> Ask the Rabbi:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Question: "Rabbi, may I smoke while praying?"
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Answer: "Absolutely not!"
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Q: "Good, may I pray while smoking?"
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> A: "Of course. You are always allowed to pray."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This is older than anyone in this ng.
> > > >>> And you missed a couple of details.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There are also more piquant versions.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Did your parents just placed you in
> > > >>> a yeshiva? ;-)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Maybe in 7 years we can call you
> > > >>> "Rabbi". Or 5 if you stand out as a
> > > >>> student.
> > > >>
> > > >> This a kind of joke that is funny on
> > > >> the surface, but if you think for a
> > > >> second, you realize its premise is
> > > >> flawed.
> > > >
> > > > So are many other jokes. What else
> > > > is new?
> > > >
> > > >> Translation: You shouldn't smoke
> > > >> while praying, but if you are smoking
> > > >> and feel the need to pray (as in not get
> > > >> lung cancer), you are permitted. It's not
> > > >> really funny.
> > > >
> > > > So are many other jokes. What else
> > > > is new?
> > >
> > > I mention it because I think this is a lower
> > > form of humor. Almost dishonest. Not that i
> > > can't be tricked into laughing at some a joke.
> > > Surely the Rabbis at aish see this differently:
> >
> > https://aish.com/51478332/
> >
> > Maybe Mr Berger can write them an e-mail and
> > enlighten the Rabbis at aish how this is a lower
> > form of humor and how it's almost dishonest.
> AISH is not normative for anything or anybody.
> AISH rabbies are no smarter than other rabbies.
>
> dk

*in case you didn't click on the link; that's where I got the longer version of the joke from which I copy-pasted here - this was reason I linked to aish.

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 by: Dan Koren - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 07:06 UTC

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 12:02:54 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 08:54:20 UTC+2:
> > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 11:44:06 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > >
> > > https://aish.com/51478332/
> > >
> > > Maybe Mr Berger can write them an e-mail and
> > > enlighten the Rabbis at aish how this is a lower
> > > form of humor and how it's almost dishonest.
> >
> > AISH is not normative for anything or anybody.
> > AISH rabbies are no smarter than other rabbies.
>
> *in case you didn't click on the link; that's where
> I got the longer version of the joke from which I
> copy-pasted here - this was reason I linked to aish.

I did get the link. You need to be more careful in
how you pick your "sources". AISH is nothing
more than a random idiotic site.

dk

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 by: Marc S - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 07:13 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 09:06:10 UTC+2:
> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 12:02:54 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 08:54:20 UTC+2:
> > > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 11:44:06 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > >
> > > > https://aish.com/51478332/
> > > >
> > > > Maybe Mr Berger can write them an e-mail and
> > > > enlighten the Rabbis at aish how this is a lower
> > > > form of humor and how it's almost dishonest.
> > >
> > > AISH is not normative for anything or anybody.
> > > AISH rabbies are no smarter than other rabbies.
> >
> > *in case you didn't click on the link; that's where
> > I got the longer version of the joke from which I
> > copy-pasted here - this was reason I linked to aish.
> I did get the link. You need to be more careful in
> how you pick your "sources". AISH is nothing
> more than a random idiotic site.

The source was very much all I needed for the longer version of the joke and I won't be wasting my time to find sources that would be acceptable to you Dan... politically they seem to see things more like I do than like you ;D

You are afraid of the Rabbis enforcing the Halakha all over Israel, so that poor Dan, when visiting Israel, would be forced to eat kosher food and pray to hashem ;D What a beautiful sight that would be haha.

>
> dk

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 by: Marc S - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 07:16 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 09:06:10 UTC+2:
> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 12:02:54 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 08:54:20 UTC+2:
> > > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 11:44:06 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > >
> > > > https://aish.com/51478332/
> > > >
> > > > Maybe Mr Berger can write them an e-mail and
> > > > enlighten the Rabbis at aish how this is a lower
> > > > form of humor and how it's almost dishonest.
> > >
> > > AISH is not normative for anything or anybody.
> > > AISH rabbies are no smarter than other rabbies.
> >
> > *in case you didn't click on the link; that's where
> > I got the longer version of the joke from which I
> > copy-pasted here - this was reason I linked to aish.
> I did get the link. You need to be more careful in
> how you pick your "sources". AISH is nothing
> more than a random idiotic site.
>
> dk

I'll tell you one thing... I can rather imagine Liszt and Rachmaninov with a Kippah than you with a Kippah ;D

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