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Re: Josquin anniversary

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by: cheregi - Sun, 30 Apr 2023 15:00 UTC

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 11:13:14 AM UTC-4, Mandryka wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 1:40:47 PM UTC+1, Ellie Kerry wrote:
> > I read somewhere an 18th or 19th century account of some non-western dignitary going to the symphony in Paris or London for the first time. He said it and western music in general sounded like a baby throwing a tantrum. Returning to romantic piano music after training my ears on qin, ney, setar, etc, I'm inclined to agree!
> Here's some modal Chopin -- get ready to genuflect.
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XXnJiXPlrc&ab_channel=ADGO
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> > Predictably here I want to say something about the stylistic pressure exerted by western music moving to the middlebrow paid-ticket concert-hall since the 1660s, towards bombast, drama, virtuosity etc., in other words something about 'capitalist vs feudal aesthetics'.
> I thought you thought that authentic Josquin targets the middlebrow church goers who weren't up for any close listening.

what a bizarre performance... I like it...

I guess I've introduced ambiguity by using 'middlebrow' there to mean literally 'part of the newly dominant middle classes'. Which seems not directly correlated to preference or antipathy towards close listening.

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by: Mandryka - Sun, 30 Apr 2023 18:40 UTC

Subject	Author
Josquin anniversary	cheregi
Josquin anniversary	Mandryka