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* Period brass instrumentsChris J.
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 by: Chris J. - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 14:04 UTC

Given the enormous success of my posting about fortepianos and Beethoven
PCs, I thought it would be a good idea to follow it up with a posting
about period brass instruments :-)

Natural trumpets and horns:

https://elisakoehler.com/brass-from-the-past/

Natural trumpets and valved cornets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGJMITq-Db0

History of the trombone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtnoejeUylc

Chris

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 by: Dan Koren - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 19:11 UTC

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:04:31 AM UTC-8, Chris J. wrote:
> Given the enormous success of my posting about fortepianos and Beethoven
> PCs, I thought it would be a good idea to follow it up with a posting
> about period brass instruments :-)
> Natural trumpets and horns:
> https://elisakoehler.com/brass-from-the-past/
> Natural trumpets and valved cornets:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGJMITq-Db0
> History of the trombone:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtnoejeUylc

Noise pollution. You will reported for violating
neughborhood ordinances. I am callig 911 right
away! ;-)

Cheers

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 by: ermintrudethecat - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 13:35 UTC

Chris J. wrote:

> Given the enormous success of my posting about fortepianos and Beethoven
> PCs, I thought it would be a good idea to follow it up with a posting
> about period brass instruments :-)

You forgot the ophicleide, a must for the Symphonie Fantastique, with or without serpent.

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

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 by: mINE109 - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:26 UTC

On 2/24/24 7:35 AM, ermintrudethecat wrote:
> Chris J. wrote:
>
>> Given the enormous success of my posting about fortepianos and
>> Beethoven PCs, I thought it would be a good idea to follow it up with
>> a posting about period brass instruments :-)
>
> You forgot the ophicleide, a must for the Symphonie Fantastique, with or
> without serpent.

The Grande symphonie funèbre et triomphale requires two!

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 by: Pluted Pup - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:42 UTC

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 07:26:00 -0800, mINE109 wrote:

> On 2/24/24 7:35 AM, ermintrudethecat wrote:
> > Chris J. wrote:
> >
> > > Given the enormous success of my posting about fortepianos and
> > > Beethoven PCs, I thought it would be a good idea to follow it up with
> > > a posting about period brass instruments :-)
> >
> > You forgot the ophicleide, a must for the Symphonie Fantastique, with or
> > without serpent.
>
> The Grande symphonie funèbre et triomphale requires two!

I assume that's just the band version (no singing) and not the
orchestral (singing)?

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 by: Ermintrudethecat - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 02:02 UTC

Pluted Pup wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 07:26:00 -0800, mINE109 wrote:

>> On 2/24/24 7:35 AM, ermintrudethecat wrote:
>> > Chris J. wrote:
>> >
>> > > Given the enormous success of my posting about fortepianos and
>> > > Beethoven PCs, I thought it would be a good idea to follow it up with
>> > > a posting about period brass instruments :-)
>> >
>> > You forgot the ophicleide, a must for the Symphonie Fantastique, with or
>> > without serpent.
>>
>> The Grande symphonie funèbre et triomphale requires two!

> I assume that's just the band version (no singing) and not the
> orchestral (singing)?

I would have thought that it would be be much easier to sing over two ophicleides than being drowned out by two tubas.

For the Mendelssohn Wedding march with ophicleides, listen to Philippe Herrewege's recording of A Midsomer Night's Dream with L'Orchestre des Champs Elysees with Sandrine Piau. Even Boxed Set Bernie likes it ...

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

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 by: mINE109 - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 17:34 UTC

On 2/24/24 8:02 PM, Ermintrudethecat wrote:
> Pluted Pup wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 07:26:00 -0800, mINE109 wrote:
>
>>> On 2/24/24 7:35 AM, ermintrudethecat wrote:
>>> > Chris J. wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Given the enormous success of my posting about fortepianos and
>>> > > Beethoven PCs, I thought it would be a good idea to follow it up
>>> with
>>> > > a posting about period brass instruments :-)
>>> >
>>> > You forgot the ophicleide, a must for the Symphonie Fantastique,
>>> with or
>>> > without serpent.
>>>
>>> The Grande symphonie funèbre et triomphale requires two!
>
>> I assume that's just the band version (no singing) and not the
>> orchestral (singing)?
>
> I would have thought that it would be be much easier to sing over two
> ophicleides than being drowned out by two tubas.

The string and vocal parts are in addition to the original band version
so it's the same ophicleide parts.

Hurwitz says it requires six, so he must not be looking at the same
score I saw on IMSLP.

I'm glad he thinks Dutoit is boring as I tried for years to learn the
piece from that recording but it didn't keep my attention. At least the
Wallace gets the first movement done in two thirds the time.

> For the Mendelssohn Wedding march with ophicleides, listen to Philippe
> Herrewege's recording of A Midsomer Night's Dream with L'Orchestre des
> Champs Elysees with Sandrine Piau. Even Boxed Set Bernie likes it ...

Thanks!

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