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* Yoko's Claim About Not Knowing Who the Beatles WereNorbert K
+* Re: Yoko's Claim About Not Knowing Who the Beatles WereNorbert K
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 `- Re: Yoko's Claim About Not Knowing Who the Beatles WereNorbert K

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Subject: Yoko's Claim About Not Knowing Who the Beatles Were
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 by: Norbert K - Tue, 14 Nov 2023 12:14 UTC

Yoko's tarot card reader, John Green, says he had the following exchange with a depressed John Lennon shortly after John returned to Yoko and the Dakota. Green prompted John, telling him, "You are what's happening":

Lennon: Happening? Not anymore. Even in the old days, I wasn't really important. Do you know that when I met Yoko, she didn't even know what a 'Beatle' was?

Green: Yes, I've heard that story, but I never believed it. I know men who were cloistered monks at that time, and even they knew who the Beatles were. I think that was just Yoko's way of telling you that she was so busy with "real" art and "real" culture that she never noticed your scene. I think you believed her because under all your bravado and surface confidence, you have a very poor sense of self-worth. She told you that you were unimportant and you accepted it because you secretly beleved it, so much so that you gave away half your hard-earned position to someone whose major talent was giving you her undivided attention.

Lennon: I just love the way you reduce everything to simple statements.

-- Summarized & quoted from John Green's book Dakota Days

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Subject: Re: Yoko's Claim About Not Knowing Who the Beatles Were
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 by: Norbert K - Tue, 6 Feb 2024 12:20 UTC

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 4:14:09 AM UTC-8, Norbert K wrote:
> Yoko's tarot card reader, John Green, says he had the following exchange with a depressed John Lennon shortly after John returned to Yoko and the Dakota. Green prompted John, telling him, "You are what's happening":
>
> Lennon: Happening? Not anymore. Even in the old days, I wasn't really important. Do you know that when I met Yoko, she didn't even know what a 'Beatle' was?
>
> Green: Yes, I've heard that story, but I never believed it. I know men who were cloistered monks at that time, and even they knew who the Beatles were. I think that was just Yoko's way of telling you that she was so busy with "real" art and "real" culture that she never noticed your scene. I think you believed her because under all your bravado and surface confidence, you have a very poor sense of self-worth. She told you that you were unimportant and you accepted it because you secretly beleved it, so much so that you gave away half your hard-earned position to someone whose major talent was giving you her undivided attention.
>
> Lennon: I just love the way you reduce everything to simple statements.
>
> -- Summarized & quoted from John Green's book Dakota Days

The ludicrousness of Yoko's lie that she didn't know who the Beatles were is obvious to any person of sense.

There's also a documentary on Youtube, produced by Yoko's daughter Kyoko, about Yoko's second husband Tony Cox. Cox admits that he and Yoko decided that the best way for her to gain publicity was to acquire the endorsement of a member of the Beatles. Yoko tried for an endorsement from McCartney first.

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 by: oldernow - Tue, 6 Feb 2024 12:27 UTC

On 2024-02-06, Norbert K <norbertkosky69@gmail.com> wrote:

> The ludicrousness of Yoko's lie that she didn't know who
> the Beatles were is obvious to any person of sense.
>
> There's also a documentary on Youtube, produced by Yoko's
> daughter Kyoko, about Yoko's second husband Tony Cox.
> Cox admits that he and Yoko decided that the best way for
> her to gain publicity was to acquire the endorsement of
> a member of the Beatles. Yoko tried for an endorsement
> from McCartney first.

Oh Yoko....

--
oldernow
xyz001 at nym.hush.com

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 by: Pamela Brown - Thu, 8 Feb 2024 12:14 UTC

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 6:14:09 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
> Yoko's tarot card reader, John Green, says he had the following exchange with a depressed John Lennon shortly after John returned to Yoko and the Dakota. Green prompted John, telling him, "You are what's happening":
>
> Lennon: Happening? Not anymore. Even in the old days, I wasn't really important. Do you know that when I met Yoko, she didn't even know what a 'Beatle' was?
>
> Green: Yes, I've heard that story, but I never believed it. I know men who were cloistered monks at that time, and even they knew who the Beatles were. I think that was just Yoko's way of telling you that she was so busy with "real" art and "real" culture that she never noticed your scene. I think you believed her because under all your bravado and surface confidence, you have a very poor sense of self-worth. She told you that you were unimportant and you accepted it because you secretly beleved it, so much so that you gave away half your hard-earned position to someone whose major talent was giving you her undivided attention.
>
> Lennon: I just love the way you reduce everything to simple statements.
>
> -- Summarized & quoted from John Green's book Dakota Days
All part of the act...

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 by: Norbert K - Thu, 8 Feb 2024 13:44 UTC

On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 4:14:05 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 6:14:09 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
> > Yoko's tarot card reader, John Green, says he had the following exchange with a depressed John Lennon shortly after John returned to Yoko and the Dakota. Green prompted John, telling him, "You are what's happening":
> >
> > Lennon: Happening? Not anymore. Even in the old days, I wasn't really important. Do you know that when I met Yoko, she didn't even know what a 'Beatle' was?
> >
> > Green: Yes, I've heard that story, but I never believed it. I know men who were cloistered monks at that time, and even they knew who the Beatles were. I think that was just Yoko's way of telling you that she was so busy with "real" art and "real" culture that she never noticed your scene. I think you believed her because under all your bravado and surface confidence, you have a very poor sense of self-worth. She told you that you were unimportant and you accepted it because you secretly beleved it, so much so that you gave away half your hard-earned position to someone whose major talent was giving you her undivided attention.
> >
> > Lennon: I just love the way you reduce everything to simple statements.
> >
> > -- Summarized & quoted from John Green's book Dakota Days
> All part of the act...

Yoko knew John's vulnerabilities and how to exploit them. A person with a stronger sense of self would have sent her packing -- as McCartney and David Spinozza did.

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