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by: JudeoN4zi - Wed, 27 Mar 2024 08:45 UTC

DeepBlue wrote:

> DeepBlue wrote:

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyLcEEb8CbA

> This one too!

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG26t7lk_KE

> includes the Appissionata!

> Enjoy!

Listening to it, makes me reconsider Schubert in my favourite-composers-ranking.. not connecting well with this composer tbh... I do prefer Haydn and Brahms over Schubert... the stuff I like most by, or find most inspiring of Schubert are probably "Die Nebensonnen" and "Der Leiermann" -- with the rest; the symphonies, the masses, the chamber music, the other songs I heard, the solo piano... I just don't really connect well...

Should probably listen more to Hamelin though...

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by: JudeoN4zi - Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:11 UTC

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by: howard - Wed, 27 Mar 2024 19:00 UTC

JudeoN4zi wrote:

> The thing with Schubert for me is also... like, he finds a beautiful melody (as in D935 No.2) and then repeats it without end... Don't think much of this...

Horowitz had the right idea with his 1953 performance of D960. Keep things moving, don't linger, don't be repetitive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilpX3LzxugA&t=336s

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by: DeepBlue - Wed, 27 Mar 2024 19:53 UTC

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by: JudeoN4zi - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:29 UTC

DeepBlue wrote:

> JudeoN4zi wrote:

>> The thing with Schubert for me is also...
>> like, he finds a beautiful melody (as in
>> D935 No.2) and then repeats it without end...

> Still far better than Bruckner who finds an
> ugly motif and repeats it for 90+ minuutes.

Sure.

Have to correct myself regarding rankings of composers; I'd rank Schubert way above Haydn, after listening some more to Haydn again - but still not one of my favourites.

Fav composers: Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Brahms -- and after the break: Schoenberg, Webern and Berg (though I have to get more accustomed with the works of these guys).

I think if Mozart, Beethoven Bach and Brahms did not exist, I'd probably choose Schubert, Mahler and Haydn or sth... and maybe also Prokofiev, Scriabin, Ravel and Debussy -- and after the break: Messiaen, Boulez (who I might add to my favourite composers one day) and Xenakis (same).

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by: JudeoN4zi - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:02 UTC

howard wrote:

> JudeoN4zi wrote:

>> The thing with Schubert for me is also... like, he finds a beautiful melody (as in D935 No.2) and then repeats it without end... Don't think much of this...

> Horowitz had the right idea with his 1953 performance of D960. Keep things moving, don't linger, don't be repetitive.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilpX3LzxugA&t=336s

Sorry only read it now, one day maybe, right now not so interested. Also, I don't seem to like horowitz that much (anymore).

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by: JudeoN4zi - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:03 UTC

JudeoN4zi wrote:

> I think if Mozart, Beethoven Bach and Brahms did not exist, I'd probably choose Schubert, Mahler and Haydn or sth... and maybe also Prokofiev, Scriabin, Ravel and Debussy -- and after the break: Messiaen, Boulez (who I might add to my favourite composers one day) and Xenakis (same).

Forgot to add Chopin here somewhere

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by: JudeoN4zi - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:05 UTC

JudeoN4zi wrote:

> JudeoN4zi wrote:

>> I think if Mozart, Beethoven Bach and Brahms did not exist, I'd probably choose Schubert, Mahler and Haydn or sth... and maybe also Prokofiev, Scriabin, Ravel and Debussy -- and after the break: Messiaen, Boulez (who I might add to my favourite composers one day) and Xenakis (same).

> Forgot to add Chopin here somewhere

or maybe not...

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by: Pluted Pup - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:27 UTC

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> JudeoN4zi wrote:
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> > I think if Mozart, Beethoven Bach and Brahms did not exist, I'd probably choose Schubert, Mahler and Haydn or sth... and maybe also Prokofiev, Scriabin, Ravel and Debussy -- and after the break: Messiaen, Boulez (who I might add to my favourite composers one day) and Xenakis (same).
>
> Forgot to add Chopin here somewhere

All the good composers are antisemitic

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by: DeepBlue - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:39 UTC

JudeoN4zi wrote:

> DeepBlue wrote:

>> DeepBlue wrote:

>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyLcEEb8CbA

>> This one too!

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG26t7lk_KE

>> includes the Appissionata!

>> Enjoy!

> Listening to it, makes me reconsider Schubert in
> my favourite-composers-ranking.. not connecting
> well with this composer tbh... I do prefer Haydn
> and Brahms over Schubert... the stuff I like most
> by, or find most inspiring of Schubert are probably
> "Die Nebensonnen" and "Der Leiermann" -- with the
> rest; the symphonies, the masses, the chamber music,
> the other songs I heard, the solo piano... I just
> don't really connect well...

Listen to D.887. To my ears it is the litmus test
for Schubert affinity or disaffinity, just as the
5th is the litmus test for Bruckner, or Chopin's
4th Ballade is the litmus test for Chopin. If one
does not connect to D.887 one is definitely not
Schubert material.

Happy Easter!

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by: DeepBlue - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:44 UTC

howard wrote:
>
> JudeoN4zi wrote:
>
>> The thing with Schubert for me is also...
>> like, he finds a beautiful melody (as in
>> D935 No.2) and then repeats it without end...
>> Don't think much of this...>

> Horowitz had the right idea with his 1953
> performance of D960. Keep things moving,
> don't linger, don't be repetitive.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilpX3LzxugA

Sofronitsky is even better at keeping the
flow in D.960:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYZiADokWQc

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by: JudeoN4zi - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 08:20 UTC

DeepBlue wrote:

> howard wrote:
>>
>> JudeoN4zi wrote:
>>
>>> The thing with Schubert for me is also...
>>> like, he finds a beautiful melody (as in
>>> D935 No.2) and then repeats it without end...
>>> Don't think much of this...>

>> Horowitz had the right idea with his 1953
>> performance of D960. Keep things moving,
>> don't linger, don't be repetitive.

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilpX3LzxugA

> Sofronitsky is even better at keeping the
> flow in D.960:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYZiADokWQc

I liked him much more than Richter here the last time I compared..

$3,000,000.

arts / rec.music.classical.recordings / Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960

Subject	Author
Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	DeepBlue
Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	DeepBlue
Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	JudeoN4zi
Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	JudeoN4zi
Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	howard
Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	JudeoN4zi
Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	DeepBlue
Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	JudeoN4zi
Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	DeepBlue
Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	JudeoN4zi
Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	JudeoN4zi
Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	JudeoN4zi
Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	Pluted Pup
Re: Superb Hamelin recital including Schubert D.960	DeepBlue