On Saturday, December 28, 2013 at 1:51:10 AM UTC-5, khematite wrote:
> On Saturday, December 28, 2013 12:19:21 AM UTC-5, denis wrote:
>
> > I think I've figured out everybody except Jean and Mike.
> >
> > Are the Marty Travers and Peter Yarrow?
> Jim and Jean were a real group, so there are probably elements of the real Jean in the screen version.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_and_Jean
>
> http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2013/12/dave_van_ronk_inside_llewyn_davis.php
>
> The fact that Mike has committed suicide before the movie begins may be meant to suggest the fate of Paul Clayton:
>
> http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/music/2013/12/19/new-bedford-folk-hero-paul-clayton-colors-inside-llewyn-davis/ngl8FfziaiKeahUS1mHDoM/story.html

K, is that Peter Orlovsky driving across country with John Goodman in the back seat, or is this a generic Beat Generation guy?

On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 14:18:09 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> K, is that Peter Orlovsky driving across country with John Goodman in the back seat, or is this a generic Beat Generation guy?

Afraid that I'm not in any position to provide a definitive answer to that question. The character Johnny Five does, out of the blue, suddenly announce to the car passengers "Clean Asshole Poems--Orlovsky," although whether this constitutes a claim of authorship or is merely a reference is far from clear. Later, at a roadside restaurant, Johnny Five seems to be reading--from what looks to me like a manuscript, not a published book--the poem "My Bed Is Covered Yellow" by Orlovsky. That could suggest that he was indeed intended to be taken as some version of Orlovsky.

On the other hand, Johnny Five does tell Llewyn Davis that he acted for a while, appearing in the early 1960s play "The Brig," but that the police closed the show. I can't find anything that connects Orlovsky to "The Brig," although he did act in several films. I checked out the original cast listing for "The Brig" and Orlovsky wasn't in it.

So, I'd say that the Johnny Five character probably inhabits the range between Orlovsky himself and some more generic representation of a Beat Era poet. Tangentially, a year before "Inside Llewyn Davis," Garrett Hedlund, who played Johnny Five, had the part of Dean Moriarty in "On the Road."

My Bed is Covered Yellow by Peter Orlovsky

My bed is covered yellow - Oh Sun, I sit on you
Oh golden field I lay on you
Oh money I dream of you
More, More, cried the bed - talk to me more -
Oh bed that taked the weight of the world -
all the lost dreams laid on you
Oh bed that grows no hair, that cannot be fucked
or can be fucked
Oh bed crumbs of all ages spiled on you
Oh yellow bed march to the sun whear yr journey will be done
Oh 50 lbs. of bed that takes 400 more lbs-
how strong you are
Oh bed, only for man & not for animals
yellow bed when will the animals have equal rights?
Oh 4 legged bed off the floor forever built
Oh yellow bed all the news of the world
lay on you at one time or another

1957, Paris

On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 4:03:07 PM UTC-4, K. Hematite wrote:
> On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 14:18:09 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > K, is that Peter Orlovsky driving across country with John Goodman in the back seat, or is this a generic Beat Generation guy?
> Afraid that I'm not in any position to provide a definitive answer to that question. The character Johnny Five does, out of the blue, suddenly announce to the car passengers "Clean Asshole Poems--Orlovsky," although whether this constitutes a claim of authorship or is merely a reference is far from clear. Later, at a roadside restaurant, Johnny Five seems to be reading--from what looks to me like a manuscript, not a published book--the poem "My Bed Is Covered Yellow" by Orlovsky. That could suggest that he was indeed intended to be taken as some version of Orlovsky.
>
> On the other hand, Johnny Five does tell Llewyn Davis that he acted for a while, appearing in the early 1960s play "The Brig," but that the police closed the show. I can't find anything that connects Orlovsky to "The Brig," although he did act in several films. I checked out the original cast listing for "The Brig" and Orlovsky wasn't in it.
>
> So, I'd say that the Johnny Five character probably inhabits the range between Orlovsky himself and some more generic representation of a Beat Era poet. Tangentially, a year before "Inside Llewyn Davis," Garrett Hedlund, who played Johnny Five, had the part of Dean Moriarty in "On the Road."
>
> My Bed is Covered Yellow by Peter Orlovsky
>
> My bed is covered yellow - Oh Sun, I sit on you
> Oh golden field I lay on you
> Oh money I dream of you
> More, More, cried the bed - talk to me more -
> Oh bed that taked the weight of the world -
> all the lost dreams laid on you
> Oh bed that grows no hair, that cannot be fucked
> or can be fucked
> Oh bed crumbs of all ages spiled on you
> Oh yellow bed march to the sun whear yr journey will be done
> Oh 50 lbs. of bed that takes 400 more lbs-
> how strong you are
> Oh bed, only for man & not for animals
> yellow bed when will the animals have equal rights?
> Oh 4 legged bed off the floor forever built
> Oh yellow bed all the news of the world
> lay on you at one time or another
>
> 1957, Paris

Thanks, yes, probably a Coen Brothers alternate universe person, as Llewyn Davis himself is.