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* Friendly-Fire PODsLouis Epstein
+* Friendly-Fire PODsRich Rostrom
|`- Friendly-Fire PODsLouis Epstein
`- Friendly-Fire PODsRich Rostrom

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Friendly-Fire PODs

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From: le@main.lekno.ws (Louis Epstein)
Newsgroups: alt.history.what-if
Subject: Friendly-Fire PODs
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 22:29:37 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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 by: Louis Epstein - Mon, 6 Mar 2023 22:29 UTC

How many impactful military leaders have died as a result
of wayward attacks from their own side?

The Confederates,for example,lost A.S. Johnston and Stonewall
Jackson just in the first years of the Civil War.

Who else would have been consequential had their subordinates
had better targeting intel?

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at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

Re: Friendly-Fire PODs

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From: rrostrom@comcast.net (Rich Rostrom)
Newsgroups: alt.history.what-if
Subject: Re: Friendly-Fire PODs
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 04:23:51 -0600
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 by: Rich Rostrom - Tue, 7 Mar 2023 10:23 UTC

On 3/6/23 4:29 PM, Louis Epstein wrote:
> The Confederates,for example,lost A.S. Johnston and Stonewall
> Jackson just in the first years of the Civil War.

Jackson, yes, but I have never seen any claim or suggestion
that Johnston was hit by friendly fire.
--
Nous sommes dans une pot de chambre, et nous y serons emmerdés.
--- General Auguste-Alexandre Ducrot at Sedan, 1870.

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From: le@main.lekno.ws (Louis Epstein)
Newsgroups: alt.history.what-if
Subject: Re: Friendly-Fire PODs
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 01:54:27 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Louis Epstein - Wed, 8 Mar 2023 01:54 UTC

Rich Rostrom <rrostrom@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 3/6/23 4:29 PM, Louis Epstein wrote:
>> The Confederates,for example,lost A.S. Johnston and Stonewall
>> Jackson just in the first years of the Civil War.
>
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> Jackson, yes, but I have never seen any claim or suggestion
> that Johnston was hit by friendly fire.

Do some more reading,then.
He was hit from behind (while not facing his army)
by a bullet of a type his army had and the Union didn't.

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From: rrostrom@comcast.net (Rich Rostrom)
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Subject: Re: Friendly-Fire PODs
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 by: Rich Rostrom - Fri, 10 Mar 2023 17:55 UTC

On 3/6/23 4:29 PM, Louis Epstein wrote:
> How many impactful military leaders have died as a result
> of wayward attacks from their own side?

There were rumors that Charles XII of Sweden was killed by
"friendly fire".

Italian Marshal Italo Balbo was killed when his transport
was shot down by Italian flak over Tripoli.

US general Leslie McNair was killed by bombs falling short
during the opening phase of Operation COBRA.

US Col. David Marcus, who became Israel's first general
under the _nom de guerre_ of "Mickey Stone", was killed
by a Haganah sentry.

> The Confederates,for example,lost A.S. Johnston and Stonewall
> Jackson just in the first years of the Civil War.

I never heard that Johnston was hit by Confederate fire.

> Who else would have been consequential had their subordinates
> had better targeting intel?

Or worse, i.e. fired in the wrong direction or at
the wrong target.

While commanding a front-line battalion in WW I,
Winston Churchill several times personally
reconnoitered enemy positions; his men were warned
not to fire on anything till he got back.

--
Nous sommes dans une pot de chambre, et nous y serons emmerdés.
--- General Auguste-Alexandre Ducrot at Sedan, 1870.

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