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* "Leonard Cohen and Bob Dylan : Poetry and the Popular Song."W.Dockery
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Re: "Leonard Cohen and Bob Dylan : Poetry and the Popular Song."

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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
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Subject: Re: "Leonard Cohen and Bob Dylan : Poetry and the Popular Song."
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2022 06:53:35 +0000
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 by: W.Dockery - Mon, 1 Aug 2022 06:53 UTC

"Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
> news:4e279b72-7458-4417-92c4-19f66dcdb435@googlegroups.com...
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> We can leave Dylan out for now, since you prefer it, but both Smith and
>> Cohen were poets, published poets, long before they became involved with
>> music:
>>
>> https://pennyspoetry.wikia.com/wiki/Patti_Smith
>>
>> "Patricia Lee "Patti" Smith (born December 30, 1946)[1] is an American
>> poet, singer-songwriter, and visual artist..."
>>
>> https://pennyspoetry.wikia.com/wiki/Leonard_Cohen
>>
>> "Leonard Norman Cohen, CC, GOQ (September 21, 1934 - November 7, 2016) was
>> a Canadian poet, singer-songwriter, musician, and novelist. His work often
>> explores religion, isolation, sexuality and interpersonal
>> relationships..."
>>
>> > Bob Dylan is a
>> > highly influential folkie
>>
>> Everywhere but you says Dylan is a poet:
>
> https://pennyspoetry.wikia.com/wiki/Bob_Dylan
>>
>> "Bob Dylan (born May 24, 1941) is an American poet, singer-songwriter,
>> musician, and painter..."
>
> Rule of Thumb:
>
> If a song lyric can stand on its own, it's poetry

That's true, as do the lyrics of Bob Dylan and Leonard Cohen, to name two obvious examples.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: General-Zod - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:12 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> news:4e279b72-7458-4417-92c4-19f66dcdb435@googlegroups.com...
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> We can leave Dylan out for now, since you prefer it, but both Smith and
>>> Cohen were poets, published poets, long before they became involved with
>>> music:
>>>
>>> https://pennyspoetry.wikia.com/wiki/Patti_Smith
>>>
>>> "Patricia Lee "Patti" Smith (born December 30, 1946)[1] is an American
>>> poet, singer-songwriter, and visual artist..."
>>>
>>> https://pennyspoetry.wikia.com/wiki/Leonard_Cohen
>>>
>>> "Leonard Norman Cohen, CC, GOQ (September 21, 1934 - November 7, 2016) was
>>> a Canadian poet, singer-songwriter, musician, and novelist. His work often
>>> explores religion, isolation, sexuality and interpersonal
>>> relationships..."
>>>
>>> > Bob Dylan is a
>>> > highly influential folkie
>>>
>>> Everywhere but you says Dylan is a poet:
>>
>> https://pennyspoetry.wikia.com/wiki/Bob_Dylan
>>>
>>> "Bob Dylan (born May 24, 1941) is an American poet, singer-songwriter,
>>> musician, and painter..."
>>
>> Rule of Thumb:
>>
>> If a song lyric can stand on its own, it's poetry

> That's true, as do the lyrics of Bob Dylan and Leonard Cohen, to name two obvious examples.

> HTH and HAND.

Exactly, and a fusion of poetry and song therefore....

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