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* Premiere Order from 1//1/2023James Gentry
+* Premiere Opera Order of December 31, 2022Phil Octetes
|`* Premiere Opera Order of December 31, 2022corellifan@twc.com
| `- Premiere Opera Order of December 31, 2022Leonard Michaels
`- Premiere Order from 1//1/2023Leonard Michaels

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Re: Premiere Opera Order of December 31, 2022

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Subject: Re: Premiere Opera Order of December 31, 2022
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 by: Phil Octetes - Tue, 20 Jun 2023 03:26 UTC

As with Mr. Gentry, I had been a very long time customer of Premiere Opera, but I will no longer have any dealings with them due to a similarly unfortunate experience.

On December 31, 2022, I ordered online CD's of 14 operas and paid Premiere Opera $89.70 for the 14 operas and $63.21 for the shipping of these operas for a total of $152.91.

On March 29, 2023, my package finally arrived with only 5 of the operas, and was advised on April 4, 2023 to use a code to take advantage of a total credit they were giving me of $47.84. The payment I made for the 9 operas I did not receive was $53.82. In addition, the pro rata cost of the delivery of the 5 operas I received was $21.00. whereas I was charged $63.21 for the delivery of all 14 operas, 9 of which I did not receive.

On April 9, 2023, I requested a refund for my overpayment of $53.84 for the 9 operas I did not receive and $42.21 for the overpayment of the shipping and handling charges of the 9 operas which I did not receive, for a total refund of $96.03.

In addition, I included the following: " In addition, in the 2 CD packet I was sent of the 1972 performance of Maria Stuarda in Barcelona with Caballé et. al [0225-2] , CD # 2 was a performance of La Traviata. This CD set, which was one of the five I received, cost $5.98. Please either add this cost to the amount to be refunded or send me the correct CD # 2 for this performance."

On May 27, I sent PremiereOpera a follow-up email asking about the status of my April 9, 2023 request for a refund. I have not received any refund, and I have not heard from PremiereOpera since April 4.

It appears that Premiere Opera may have its operations outside the U.S. though it has mail drops on Long Island and in NYC. (Its telephone number comes back to what appears to be a mail receiving and sending agency in a shopping center on Long Island.) This may be due to copyright laws pertaining to the recording of live operas being transmitted online, over the air and otherwise. I do not know to what extent they are regulated by U.S. authorities and therefore do not know what recourse its customers in the U.S. may have.

Caveat emptor.

Re: Premiere Opera Order of December 31, 2022

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Subject: Re: Premiere Opera Order of December 31, 2022
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 by: corellifan@twc.com - Tue, 20 Jun 2023 11:39 UTC

On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 10:26:40 PM UTC-5, Phil Octetes wrote:
> As with Mr. Gentry, I had been a very long time customer of Premiere Opera, but I will no longer have any dealings with them due to a similarly unfortunate experience.
>
> On December 31, 2022, I ordered online CD's of 14 operas and paid Premiere Opera $89.70 for the 14 operas and $63.21 for the shipping of these operas for a total of $152.91.
>
> On March 29, 2023, my package finally arrived with only 5 of the operas, and was advised on April 4, 2023 to use a code to take advantage of a total credit they were giving me of $47.84. The payment I made for the 9 operas I did not receive was $53.82. In addition, the pro rata cost of the delivery of the 5 operas I received was $21.00. whereas I was charged $63.21 for the delivery of all 14 operas, 9 of which I did not receive.
>
> On April 9, 2023, I requested a refund for my overpayment of $53.84 for the 9 operas I did not receive and $42.21 for the overpayment of the shipping and handling charges of the 9 operas which I did not receive, for a total refund of $96.03.
>
> In addition, I included the following: " In addition, in the 2 CD packet I was sent of the 1972 performance of Maria Stuarda in Barcelona with Caballé et. al [0225-2] , CD # 2 was a performance of La Traviata. This CD set, which was one of the five I received, cost $5.98. Please either add this cost to the amount to be refunded or send me the correct CD # 2 for this performance."
>
> On May 27, I sent PremiereOpera a follow-up email asking about the status of my April 9, 2023 request for a refund. I have not received any refund, and I have not heard from PremiereOpera since April 4.
>
> It appears that Premiere Opera may have its operations outside the U.S. though it has mail drops on Long Island and in NYC. (Its telephone number comes back to what appears to be a mail receiving and sending agency in a shopping center on Long Island.) This may be due to copyright laws pertaining to the recording of live operas being transmitted online, over the air and otherwise. I do not know to what extent they are regulated by U.S. authorities and therefore do not know what recourse its customers in the U.S. may have.
>
> Caveat emptor.
Phil, what operas are you missing? I may be able to help you get them if I have them.

John Conway

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Subject: Re: Premiere Opera Order of December 31, 2022
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 by: Leonard Michaels - Tue, 20 Jun 2023 13:15 UTC

On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 7:39:22 AM UTC-4, operal...@gmail.com wro
> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 10:26:40 PM UTC-5, Phil Octetes wrote:
> > As with Mr. Gentry, I had been a very long time customer of Premiere Opera, but I will no longer have any dealings with them due to a similarly unfortunate experience.
> >
> > On December 31, 2022, I ordered online CD's of 14 operas and paid Premiere Opera $89.70 for the 14 operas and $63.21 for the shipping of these operas for a total of $152.91.
> >
> > On March 29, 2023, my package finally arrived with only 5 of the operas, and was advised on April 4, 2023 to use a code to take advantage of a total credit they were giving me of $47.84. The payment I made for the 9 operas I did not receive was $53.82. In addition, the pro rata cost of the delivery of the 5 operas I received was $21.00. whereas I was charged $63.21 for the delivery of all 14 operas, 9 of which I did not receive.
> >
> > On April 9, 2023, I requested a refund for my overpayment of $53.84 for the 9 operas I did not receive and $42.21 for the overpayment of the shipping and handling charges of the 9 operas which I did not receive, for a total refund of $96.03.
> >
> > In addition, I included the following: " In addition, in the 2 CD packet I was sent of the 1972 performance of Maria Stuarda in Barcelona with Caballé et. al [0225-2] , CD # 2 was a performance of La Traviata. This CD set, which was one of the five I received, cost $5.98. Please either add this cost to the amount to be refunded or send me the correct CD # 2 for this performance."
> >
> > On May 27, I sent PremiereOpera a follow-up email asking about the status of my April 9, 2023 request for a refund. I have not received any refund, and I have not heard from PremiereOpera since April 4.
> >
> > It appears that Premiere Opera may have its operations outside the U.S. though it has mail drops on Long Island and in NYC. (Its telephone number comes back to what appears to be a mail receiving and sending agency in a shopping center on Long Island.) This may be due to copyright laws pertaining to the recording of live operas being transmitted online, over the air and otherwise. I do not know to what extent they are regulated by U.S. authorities and therefore do not know what recourse its customers in the U.S. may have.
> >
> > Caveat emptor.
> Phil, what operas are you missing? I may be able to help you get them if I have them.
>
> John Conway

Thanks John. They weren’t that important, but if you can recommend another source which is highly reliable, I would greatly appreciate it.

By the way, in reviewing the packing slip which indicated what was not available, these were the 9 items that I ordered that I did not receive. While I could go back onto their website to gain further information, I don’t care to do so. Also, none of these were that important to me that I need to now search for them.

15360-2 Anita Rachvelishvilli in Concert
15363-2 Symphony # 9 Beethoven ( I have so many recordings of Beethoven’s 9th that this must have been very special)
15181 2 Requiem (Dvorak)
16195 2 Adriana Lecouvreur-Cliea
16213-2 Music in Solidarity Concert
16323-2 Concert for Ukraine
16516-2 Il Falegname di Livonia
16388-2 Christan Thielemann, Elina Garanca, Vienna Philharmonic in Concert
16535-2 Requiem

Many thanks John.

Kind Regards,

Phil

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Subject: Re: Premiere Order from 1//1/2023
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 by: Leonard Michaels - Wed, 28 Jun 2023 19:13 UTC

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 1:28:36 PM UTC-4, James Gentry wrote:
> I have been a customer of Premiere from the old days of Ed Rosen. But, their service has recently gotten so terrible I am not sure I will ever use them again. My last order placed on 1/1/2023 still has not been received as of 3/20 inspite of my inquires. At one point they told me that the order had been shipped. Not so. Now their site says that it is in process.....really, after 3 months. Yes, my credit card has been charged.

Hello James:

The following are my original and updated posts on Yelp! re Premiere Opera:

This is an update of my June 19, 2023 review below* on Yelp! of Premiere Opera and is a testament to the power of Yelp!'s influence. I do not think it a coincidence that on the following day, June 20, 2023, I received an email from Premiere Opera that "I am sorry for this delay, and I am sending your message [i.e., my April 2, 2023 request for a refund of my overpayment of $53.82 for the 9 CD packets I paid for but did not receive and the overpayment of $43.21 from the payment of $63.21 for the postage and handling of 14 packets of CD's of of which I only received 5] to my boss for approval."

On June 27, 2023, Premiere Opera credited my PayPal account $53.82 and sent me the following email: "I just heard from my boss. He is unwilling to refund the shipping and handling fees , but has allowed me to refund the costs of the missing discs."

I do not think it fair that I paid Premiere Opera $63.21 for the shipping and handling of 14 packets of CD and only received 5 packets, and they are unwilling to refund the pro rata overpayment that I made.

I cannot possibly do any further business with this merchant.

Caveat Emptor! Let the buyer beware!

*Original June 19, 2023 Yelp! Review:

On December 31, 2022, I ordered online CD's of 14 operas and paid Premiere Opera $89.70 for the 14 operas and $63.21 for the shipping of these operas for a total of $152.91.

On March 29, 2023, my package finally arrived with only 5 of the operas, and was advised on April 4, 2023 to use a code to take advantage of a total credit they were giving me of $47.84. The payment I made for the 9 operas I did not receive was $53.82. In addition, the pro rata cost of the delivery of the 5 operas I received was $21.00. whereas I was charged $63.21 for the delivery of all 14 operas, 9 of which I did not receive.

On April 9, 2023, I requested a refund for my overpayment of $53.84 for the 9 operas I did not receive and $42.21 for the overpayment of the shipping and handling charges of the 9 operas which I did not receive, for a total refund of $96.03.

In addition, I included the following: " In addition, in the 2 CD packet I was sent of the 1972 performance of Maria Stuarda in Barcelona with Caballé et. al [0225-2] , CD # 2 was a performance of La Traviata. This CD set, which was one of the five I received, cost $5.98. Please either add this cost to the amount to be refunded or send me the correct CD # 2 for this performance."

On May 27, I sent PremiereOpera a follow-up email asking about the status of my April 9, 2023 request for a refund. I have not received any refund, and I have not heard from PremiereOpera since April 4.

It appears that Premiere Opera may have its operations outside the U.S. though it has mail drops on Long Island and in NYC. (Its telephone number comes back to what appears to be a mail receiving and sending agency in a shopping center on Long Island.) This may be due to copyright laws pertaining to the recording of live operas being transmitted online, over the air and otherwise. I do not know to what extent they are regulated by U.S. authorities and therefore do not know what recourse its customers in the U.S. may have.

Caveat emptor.

Phil Octetes

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 by: James Gentry - Mon, 20 Mar 2023 17:28 UTC

I have been a customer of Premiere from the old days of Ed Rosen. But, their service has recently gotten so terrible I am not sure I will ever use them again. My last order placed on 1/1/2023 still has not been received as of 3/20 inspite of my inquires. At one point they told me that the order had been shipped. Not so. Now their site says that it is in process.....really, after 3 months. Yes, my credit card has been charged.

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