On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 11:54:31 AM UTC-6, rof...@gmail.com wrote:
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> .. Maybe so, for my up till now personal history of 7 decades story (born in 1957) ...
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> This explains the chief X involved.
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> Still, most people seem to be or behave undead.
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> If mentioning Dag Hammarskjold, JFK or RFK, for examples. People just look surprised, and maybe adding an ... Ehh ...
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> Regards
> LeoK
> 4 January, 2018
My uncle was in Army Intelligence. He became a psychologist. He worked at Menninger, in Topeka KS. When he came to NYC to present at a conference, he also came to Fairfield and stayed with my family. He always took me aside and asked a lot of questions...

> Monday 12 February 2024 kl. 21:37:41 UTC+1 Pamela Brown wrote:
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> My uncle was in Army Intelligence. He became a psychologist. He worked at Menninger,
> in Topeka KS. When he came to NYC to present at a conference, he also came to Fairfield
> and stayed with my family. He always took me aside and asked a lot of questions…

Yes, we all have our own relation to military personnel, relatives and so on...

For my concern it looks like I'm an involuntary military/ surveillance sort of chess piece in a strategic US (CIA) driven operation, OP 57/68. And since the CIA has mandatory according some acts from 1947-1948 to act "freely" outside the US governmental jurisdiction. They (CIA) chose to use my parents in this OP, who obviously did not protest, since they had assigned some type of mission in the beginning in 1953 for the Pentagon/ CIA. (The reporting of "illegal", in 1953, SWE own mining of uranium ore.) (This reporting is a thesis from me.)

For some rather mysterious and intricate reasons, including mental anomalies at all involved here, I've been treated like some very dangerous Guantanamo prisoner all my life. -From the military/ surveillance side, (both US and SWE) for over 60 years. It has something with the nuking of me in fall 1960, to do. The damages are irreversible and obviously Bob Dylan has got some parts of these nuking events known by his surroundings. -And made some of his early song lyrics from the early 1960's from these rumors. The link here is the CIA OP 57/68 strive for external involvement into foreign politics, which was a highly priory mission task for CIA in the 50' to the 70's.
The only "thing" that remains is the mental states of all these individuals mentioned here who carry on with the mission or work for the institutions mentioned. And the mental situations are the same as in the 1950's. -Which also has become the OP 57/68 in our times. So my Guantanamo treatment continues from the same parts as in the beginning of this OP, still for some altered reasons. The politics have changed to mental issues. Therefore the use of novel tech to cheat good and bad mental status.
And the USA is the leading tech nation in the world. And the CIA got their mission started and stated already in the late 1940's. -It's their job to cheat.

Regards
LeoK
February 12, 2024

-- Citing previous post:
"For some rather mysterious and intricate reasons, including mental anomalies at all involved here, I've been treated like some very dangerous Guantanamo prisoner all my life. -From the military/ surveillance side, (both US and SWE) for over 60 years. It has something with the nuking of me in fall 1960, to do. The damages are irreversible and obviously Bob Dylan has got some parts of these nuking events known by his surroundings. -And made some of his early song lyrics from the early 1960's from these rumors. The link here is the CIA OP 57/68 strive for external involvement into foreign politics, which was a highly priory mission task for CIA in the 50' to the 70's."
-- End of cite. -- LeoK

The long term treatment of me obviously is caused by the overall behavior from the instigators and executors of OP 57/68. I.e. a creation and continuation of a very hot potato behavior. And now no one wants to hold it. -And yet, this isn't the final conclusion. Maybe the writing and executing of the OP 57/68 (the very hot potato) was originally sprung from the most mysterious WWII - military - backlash of its Holocaust memories and extreme anti human experiences.

So the very hot potato of OP 57/68 maybe was instigated from the experiences of the extremely WWII Holocaust hot potato. -Hot in the sense of general extreme military behavior.

How can general military behavior ever obtain redress after the Holocaust? Maybe by exchanging the Holocaust extreme hot potato with the OP 57/68 very hot potato?

Yes, maybe.

Regards
LeoK
February 14, 2024

-- Citing previous post:
"For some rather mysterious and intricate reasons, including mental anomalies at all involved here, I've been treated like some very dangerous Guantanamo prisoner all my life. -From the military/ surveillance side, (both US and SWE) for over 60 years. It has something with the nuking of me in fall 1960, to do. The damages are irreversible and obviously Bob Dylan has got some parts of these nuking events known by his surroundings. -And made some of his early song lyrics from the early 1960's from these rumors. The link here is the CIA OP 57/68 strive for external involvement into foreign politics, which was a highly priory mission task for CIA in the 50's to the 70's."
-- End of cite. -- LeoK

The long term treatment of me obviously is caused by the overall behavior from the instigators and executors of OP 57/68. I.e. a creation and continuation of a very hot potato behavior. And now no one wants to hold it. -And yet, this isn't the final conclusion. Maybe the writing and executing of the OP 57/68 (the very hot potato) was originally sprung from the most mysterious WWII - military - backlash of its Holocaust memories and extreme anti human experiences.

So the very hot potato of OP 57/68 maybe was instigated from the experiences of the extremely WWII Holocaust hot potato. -Hot in the sense of general extreme military behavior.

How can general military behavior ever obtain redress after the Holocaust? Maybe by concealing the Holocaust extreme hot potato with the OP 57/68 very hot potato?

Yes, maybe.

Regards
LeoK
February 14, 2024

I see Bob being at the center of this trauma-based mind control experiment. It is his job to grab ahold of the emotions of his fans. This creates waves of energy that the insiders think can be used to their own ends.

I think that is what happened with "a Hard Rain's a gonna Fall", for example. The targets of the experiment are supposed to have their energy vampirized by such as Bob, while they are not really allowed to get in touch with their own feelings, because of the torture.

So Bob asks, "How does it FEEL?" as a cruel joke...

Pamela

Wednesday 14 February 2024 kl. 14:20:32 UTC+1 pamina58 wrote:
> I see Bob being at the center of this trauma-based mind control experiment. It is his job to grab ahold of the emotions of his fans. This creates waves of energy that the insiders think can be used to their own ends.
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> I think that is what happened with "a Hard Rain's a gonna Fall", for example. The targets of the experiment are supposed to have their energy vampirized by such as Bob, while they are not really allowed to get in touch with their own feelings, because of the torture.
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> So Bob asks, "How does it FEEL?" as a cruel joke...
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> Pamela

Hi,
The OP 57/68 obviously has several layers of operatives. The Western World military's strive for obtain redress for the extreme military Holocaust anti-human aspect. The concealing of newly discovered human mental anomalies, made from military top psychological research in the 1950's and still ongoing. The hot potato aspect of some type of voodoo over the Atlantic, with mutilations by the nuking in fall 1960 - just one single "pin sticking" event..

Voodoo isn't normally considered a Western World behavior, still the OP 57/68 chiefs are making this in a most large extent. -And Bob Dylan is probably lured by his surrounding to participate. -You call this stance in the OP for vampirizing. Ppl obviously react strangely on other ppl's misfortune, we all understand this. -Call it for vampirizing or voodoo.

How really come that Bob Dylan ever did decide to participate in the rumor part of OP 57/68? Well, he maybe makes some type of short declaration by the novel song "Crossing the Rubicon".

First strophe:

I crossed the Rubicon on the fourteenth day
Of the most dangerous month of the year
At the worst time, at the worst place
That's all I seem to hear
I got up early
So I could greet the goddess of the dawn
I painted my wagon, abandoned all hope
And I crossed the Rubicon
-- Bob Dylan

And it isn't easy to strive against the "river of power" (the Western World's military/ surveillance).
Just imagine what may have happened to JFK or RFK for example.

Regards
LeoK
February 14, 2024

> Wednesday 14 February 2024 kl. 15:23:37 UTC+1 LeoK wrote:
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> And it isn't easy to strive against the "river of power" (the Western World's military/ surveillance).
> Just imagine what may have happened to JFK or RFK for example.

One further strange circumstance in this OP is the domestic politician's (including some ex militaries) decisions (read interferences) with our school system and its way of teaching, choosing course subjects and ways of expressing the final grades for the youngsters of 6-20 years of age.
To my view these domestic changes in the 90's and 00's have made it more difficult for the pupils to freely and without external control as grown make an own world and life social and political evaluation. Also the free minded way of theorizing our mind and psyche, which have been exposed in the writings here in RMD is not possible with novel changes in our school system. Ppl here are too way off road by the latest education politics. -Looks like some type of political free mind blocking to me.

Regards
LeoK
February 14, 2024

-- Cite from previous post:
"To my view these domestic changes in the 90's and 00's have made it more difficult for the pupils to freely and without external control as grown make an own world and life social and political evaluation. Also the free minded way of theorizing our mind and psyche, which have been exposed in the writings here in RMD is not possible with novel changes in our school system. Ppl here are too way off road by the latest education politics. -Looks like some type of political free mind blocking to me."
-- End of cite. -- LeoK

And when JFK and RFK are down in the US.
And Dag Hammarskjold and Olof Palme are down in SWE.

It may seem like military and surveillance has something going on in these countries.
And the growing individuals are obviously not allowed to speculate freely, still being interfered in this from many different ways.

A slow motion "Blitzen"?
A free mind block?
A fright of the soul?

What is really going on?

Regards
LeoK
February 14, 2024

-- Cite from previous post:
"To my view these domestic changes in the 90's and 00's have made it more difficult for the pupils to freely and without external control as grown make an own world and life social and political evaluation. Also the free minded way of theorizing our mind and psyche, which have been exposed in the writings here in RMD is not possible with novel changes in our school system. Ppl here are too way off road by the latest education politics. -Looks like some type of political free mind blocking to me."
-- End of cite. -- LeoK

And when JFK and RFK are down in the US.
And Dag Hammarskjold and Olof Palme are down in SWE.

It may seem like military and surveillance have something going on in these countries.
And the growing individuals are obviously not allowed to speculate freely, still being interfered in this from many different ways.

A slow motion "Blitzkrieg"?
A free mind block?
A fright of the soul?

What is really going on?

Regards
LeoK
February 14, 2024

Cite from earlier post:
"The OP 57/68 obviously has several layers of operatives. The Western World military's strive for obtain redress for the extreme military Holocaust anti-human aspect. The concealing of newly discovered human mental anomalies, made from military top psychological research in the 1950's and still ongoing. The hot potato aspect of some type of voodoo over the Atlantic, with mutilations by the nuking in fall 1960 - just one single "pin sticking" event mentioned by several."
-- End of cite. -- LeoK

Have to refine an earlier post:
On a easy level the constant mutilations and such bodily hurting's of me during the 1960's to the 1990's is voodoo, with the OP chiefs being the voodoo priests. Though on a more relevant aspect the constant hurting's of my body during these years probably has a more profound reason. The OP chiefs are just not willing to let me reach my full adult power and not willing to let me "strive loose" in any civilized surroundings. -Since they cannot self deal whit the "level" the OP 57/68 has reached with a more and more famous Bob Dylan during the 1960's to the 1990's. So the chiefs have to block me in several manners, to block me in a spatial, physical and a psychological aspect. The OP chiefs are not self prepared for what they have accomplished. It blew to high, one can conclude.

And, of course, I really want my legal trial about these aspects.

Regards
LeoK
February 15, 2024

Cite from earlier post:
"The OP 57/68 obviously has several layers of operatives. The Western World military's strive for obtain redress for the extreme military Holocaust anti-human aspect. The concealing of newly discovered human mental anomalies, made from military top psychological research in the 1950's and still ongoing. The hot potato aspect of some type of voodoo over the Atlantic, with mutilations by the nuking in fall 1960 - just one single "pin sticking" event mentioned by several."
-- End of cite. -- LeoK

Have to refine an earlier post:
On a easy level the constant mutilations and such bodily hurting's of me during the 1960's to the 1990's is voodoo, with the OP chiefs being the voodoo priests. Though on a more relevant aspect the constant hurting's of my body during these years probably has a more profound reason. The OP chiefs are just not willing to let me reach my full adult power and not willing to let me "strive loose" in any civilized surroundings. -Since they cannot self deal whit the "level" the OP 57/68 has reached with a more and more famous Bob Dylan during the 1960's to the 1990's. So the chiefs have to block me in several manners, to block me in a spatial, physical and a psychological aspect. The OP chiefs are not self prepared for what they have accomplished.. It blew too high, one can conclude.

And, of course, I really want my legal trial about these aspects.

Regards
LeoK
February 15, 2024

Cite from earlier post:
"The OP 57/68 obviously has several layers of operatives. The Western World military's strive to obtain redress for the extreme military Holocaust anti-human aspect. The concealing of newly discovered human mental anomalies, made from military top psychological research in the 1950's and still ongoing. The hot potato aspect of some type of voodoo over the Atlantic, with mutilations by the nuking in fall 1960 - just one single "pin sticking" event mentioned by several."
-- End of cite. -- LeoK

Have to refine an earlier post:
On an easy level the constant mutilations and such bodily hurting's of me during the 1960's to the 1990's is voodoo, with the OP chiefs being the voodoo priests. Though on a more relevant aspect the constant hurting of my body during these years probably has a more profound reason. The OP chiefs are just not willing to let me reach my full adult power and not willing to let me "strive loose" in any civilized surroundings. -Since they cannot self deal with the "level" the OP 57/68 has reached with a more and more famous Bob Dylan during the 1960's to the 1990's. So the chiefs have to block me in several manners, to block me in a spatial, physical and a psychological aspect. The OP chiefs are not self prepared for what they have accomplished. It blew too high, one can conclude.

And, of course, I really want my legal trial about these aspects.

Regards
LeoK
February 15, 2024

-- Citing from previous post:
"On an easy level the constant mutilations and such bodily hurting's of me during the 1960's to the 1990's is voodoo, with the OP chiefs being the voodoo priests. Though on a more relevant aspect the constant hurting of my body during these years probably has a more profound reason. The OP chiefs are just not willing to let me reach my full adult power and not willing to let me "strive loose" in any civilized surroundings. -Since they cannot self deal with the "level" the OP 57/68 has reached with a more and more famous Bob Dylan during the 1960's to the 1990's. So the chiefs have to block me in several manners, to block me in a spatial, physical and a psychological aspect. The OP chiefs are not self prepared for what they have accomplished.. It blew too high, one can conclude."
-- End of cite. -- LeoK

Such behavior like "burning every bridge available".. constant brainwash .. unbelievable types of mutilations .. and so on. How are all these actions possible, made by institutions like the governmental military and surveillance, from most seemingly democratic Western World countries? It sounds like some ISIS or Hamas most unethical conduct. And maybe it is. The theory is that the here mentioned institutions are acting by ideology. (Probably also in combination with the overriding effect of the Book of Law, due to inactivation of neck lobes.) -Conduct by the opposite ideology than life and truth represents. Death, violence and hate are the visible signs of the total review since about 2005 here in RMD. If we also include Bob Dylan into some similar ideologic behavior since Bob can be said to contribute with entanglement, chaos and poetic cryptic songs based on plain rumor from some parts he did trust or believed in.

Maybe my review here since about 2005 is a thorough screening of the opposite psychological and mental aspects of everything the good human normally represents. My review did only and merely encounter the other side of human ways of life and positiveness. The anti- human aspect. -The changed self instinct, the most potent of all instincts which rules every animal, expressing reversed natural ways of life.

Some ppl have said that one cannot beat Hamas since it is an ideology. Maybe the same goes for the OP 57/68 people. One cannot set them for a court session since OP 57/68 also is an ideology, or nowadays has become to one firm subcultural such. -Impossible to change at, since built on the mightiest instinct of them all being reversed.

Truely a Sisyphus or a Job work.

Regards
LeoK
February 16, 2024

These events could be part of one experiment that involves using propaganda and the mainstream press to try to change the course of history.

I think we saw this with the "Hard Rain" that was supposed to fall in 1962, when Bob first played that song in public. As children we were forced to endure air raid drills at school, as if hiding under a desk or sitting cross-legged in a hallway would keep us safe from nuclear weapons...and I think we all knew that was not true, and that contributed to our distress. It may have been that those waves of emotional energy were supposed to have worked to actually create a "Hard Rain", which could have led to a one-world government.

But they slipped up. That did not happen. Instead we had the Cuban (Caribbean) Missile Crisis that was peacefully resolved, thanks to the extraordinary efforts of JFK, who defied the US military...(and we know what happened to him...)

Ironically, Bob's later song, Caribbean Wind, may allude to another attempt...

Bob Dylan was the public face of that experiment as I see it. We were supposed to have followed him into despair...he would have been at the forefront of those who led us into the new reality that was intended by the experiment...

Again, however, he may also have been a victim, told what to do by others, in order to retain his fame and money...

I am starting to think that in extreme situations people are being tortured for this experiment in order to vampirize their energies and emotions and use them to their own ends.

There is an interesting book, Poisoner In Chief, by Stephen Kinzer, that demonstrates to some extent the extremes they went to in this experiment...

It is possible that the Holocaust has something to do with what happened to Wolfgang Mozart. He was surrounded by secular Jews, as a Freemason, in Vienna. They pretended to help him, but in truth were nothing but trouble. I think Mozart was tortured and mind-controlled, even back then, so that people could vampirize his energy and use it to their own ends. In addition, I think he was being incremently poisoned by some close to him.

Mozart had a unique gift of shalom, that no other musician had. The consequences of his assassination at the hands of this 'vortex of the evil eye' (what I called it before Bob labled it a Murder Most Foul)...may have been far reaching to future generations...

"A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall"

Oh, where have you been, my blue-eyed son?
And where have you been, my darling young one?
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I've crawled on six crooked highways
I've stepped in the middle of seven sad forests
I've been out in front of a dozen dead oceans
I've been ten thousand miles in the mouth of a graveyard
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, and it's a hard
It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall

Oh, what did you see, my blue-eyed son?
And what did you see, my darling young one?
I saw a newborn baby with wild wolves all around it
I saw a highway of diamonds with nobody on it
I saw a black branch with blood that kept drippin'
I saw a room full of men with their hammers a-bleedin'
I saw a white ladder all covered with water
I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken
I saw guns and sharp swords in the hands of young children
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, and it's a hard
It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall

And what did you hear, my blue-eyed son?
And what did you hear, my darling young one?
I heard the sound of a thunder, that roared out a warnin'
I heard the roar of a wave that could drown the whole world
I heard one hundred drummers whose hands were a-blazin'
I heard ten thousand whisperin' and nobody listenin'
I heard one person starve, I heard many people laughin'
Heard the song of a poet who died in the gutter
Heard the sound of a clown who cried in the alley
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard
It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall

Oh, what did you meet, my blue-eyed son?
Who did you meet, my darling young one?
I met a young child beside a dead pony
I met a white man who walked a black dog
I met a young woman whose body was burning
I met a young girl, she gave me a rainbow
I met one man who was wounded in love
I met another man who was wounded in hatred
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard
It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall

And what'll you do now, my blue-eyed son?
And what'll you do now, my darling young one?
I'm a-goin' back out 'fore the rain starts a-fallin'
I'll walk to the depths of the deepest dark forest
Where the people are many and their hands are all empty
Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters
Where the home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison
And the executioner's face is always well hidden
Where hunger is ugly, where souls are forgotten
Where black is the color, where none is the number
And I'll tell and speak it and think it and breathe it
And reflect from the mountain so all souls can see it
And I'll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin'
But I'll know my song well before I start singin'
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, and it's a hard
It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall

-- Bob Dylan -- September 1962

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It looks like Bob is repeating, in the song, something he has been told.

A "strange" and a bit "frightening" example of the special thesis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXn9ZKPx6CY

Regards
LeoK
February 19, 2024

The Trickster

Dylan is on high grounds, everyone gets glimpses of this, time to time.
And everyone this high are fighting, like Gandalf, against the monsters
of epics and of worlds. And everyone acts like monsters of the world.

Time is gathering as wisdom gathers among man. But we are all living
in the same garden. Some, like Eve, listen to the snake. And some
listens to Eve. The Bible repeats like sun repeats after rain.

Dylan is a trickster but seen only this way by those who sees
tricksters. Dylan is an alchemist, a pierrot and a magician. Made
for the Men of Powers to be informed. For the Women of Shade.

The money flowing like waters and lives spent in glory and in vain.
But still no man’s fool or friend. This is the sad truth about the
feast of the child for no gain than for the joy of the guests.

Dylan, I do not want to disturb the feast. But say, do you really
know that the price is fair and paid in good manners? And not by some
not wanting to go to the show of Good and Bad? Are you sure, really?

Because the magician can see the top of the mountain, but the stones
in its base? The sea beneath also, but the fishes under? And the fields
of grass, but the straw itself?

-- LeoK -- October 2005

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