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 by: emfril - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 23:17 UTC

‘Life is about creating yourself’: on Bob Dylan: Mixing Up the
Medicine | Books | The Guardian

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 by: cheesetray - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 03:06 UTC

sounds like a big crock of poop to me

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 by: Chris Pyle - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 23:54 UTC

On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 6:17:21 PM UTC-5, emfril wrote:
> ‘Life is about creating yourself’

Is that supposed to be a Bob quote? We do indeed create who we show to others, and I'm sure back in the early 60's all the musicians were creating their images. Some of them still hold on to those images, hairstyles, clothing, and such as if they didn't show themselves that way we wouldn't know them. Bob was always evolving himself, expanding his image, not getting tied down or put into a box.

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 by: Pamela Brown - Wed, 17 Jan 2024 15:05 UTC

On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 9:10:17 PM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
> sounds like a big crock of poop to me

It could be said that Bob has different iterations...you know, like software...

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 by: cheesetray - Wed, 17 Jan 2024 16:42 UTC

good morning pb.,

are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?

more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?

-cheese

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 by: Pamela Brown - Wed, 17 Jan 2024 17:15 UTC

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
> good morning pb.,
>
> are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
>
> more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
>
> -cheese
Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
Then the Heroin Waif
Then the Family Man
after that, we had...
the Wounded Divorce...
Elmer Gantry
and briefly, a Zionist...
and then things seemed to mellow out...

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 by: Rachel - Thu, 18 Jan 2024 21:38 UTC

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:15:56 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
> > good morning pb.,
> >
> > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
> >
> > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
> >
> > -cheese
> Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
> Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
> Then the Heroin Waif
> Then the Family Man
> after that, we had...
> the Wounded Divorce...
> Elmer Gantry
> and briefly, a Zionist...
> and then things seemed to mellow out...

So have you seen Patricia J. hanging out around here, too, recently... ?

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 by: Will Dockery - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 16:54 UTC

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 6:54:06 PM UTC-5, Chris Pyle wrote:
> On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 6:17:21 PM UTC-5, emfril wrote:
>
> > ‘Life is about creating yourself’
> Is that supposed to be a Bob quote? We do indeed create who we show to others, and I'm sure back in the early 60's all the musicians were creating their images. Some of them still hold on to those images, hairstyles, clothing, and such as if they didn't show themselves that way we wouldn't know them. Bob was always evolving himself, expanding his image, not getting tied down or put into a box.

I know Dylan sang:

"He not busy being born is busy dying."

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 by: Pamela Brown - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 19:13 UTC

On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 3:38:44 PM UTC-6, Rachel wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:15:56 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
> > > good morning pb.,
> > >
> > > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
> > >
> > > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
> > >
> > > -cheese
> > Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
> > Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
> > Then the Heroin Waif
> > Then the Family Man
> > after that, we had...
> > the Wounded Divorce...
> > Elmer Gantry
> > and briefly, a Zionist...
> > and then things seemed to mellow out...
> So have you seen Patricia J. hanging out around here, too, recently... ?
This Patricia J?
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/c/Ihuvh9YOCik/m/qWmW7C06AwAJ

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 by: W.Dockery - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 19:26 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 2:14:01 PM UTC-5, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 3:38:44 PM UTC-6, Rachel wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:15:56 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
>
> > > good morning pb.,
> > > >
> > > > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
> > > >
> > > > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
> > > >
> > > > -cheese
> > > Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
> > > Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
> > > Then the Heroin Waif
> > > Then the Family Man
> > > after that, we had...
> > > the Wounded Divorce...
> > > Elmer Gantry
> > > and briefly, a Zionist...
> > > and then things seemed to mellow out...
> > So have you seen Patricia J. hanging out around here, too, recently... ?
> This Patricia J?
> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/c/Ihuvh9YOCik/m/qWmW7C06AwAJ

Probably Patricia Jungwirth:

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/search?q=Patricia%20Jungwirth

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 by: roach - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 19:59 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 11:30:24 AM UTC-8, W.Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 2:14:01 PM UTC-5, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 3:38:44 PM UTC-6, Rachel wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:15:56 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
> >
> > > > good morning pb.,
> > > > >
> > > > > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
> > > > >
> > > > > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
> > > > >
> > > > > -cheese
> > > > Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
> > > > Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
> > > > Then the Heroin Waif
> > > > Then the Family Man
> > > > after that, we had...
> > > > the Wounded Divorce...
> > > > Elmer Gantry
> > > > and briefly, a Zionist...
> > > > and then things seemed to mellow out...
> > > So have you seen Patricia J. hanging out around here, too, recently.... ?
> > This Patricia J?
> > https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/c/Ihuvh9YOCik/m/qWmW7C06AwAJ
> Probably Patricia Jungwirth:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/search?q=Patricia%20Jungwirth

wait....could it be.....is this.....was that.....trixie (z"l) ?!?!!????!?!

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 by: roach - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 20:16 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 12:00:01 PM UTC-8, roach wrote:
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 11:30:24 AM UTC-8, W.Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 2:14:01 PM UTC-5, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 3:38:44 PM UTC-6, Rachel wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:15:56 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
> > >
> > > > > good morning pb.,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -cheese
> > > > > Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
> > > > > Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
> > > > > Then the Heroin Waif
> > > > > Then the Family Man
> > > > > after that, we had...
> > > > > the Wounded Divorce...
> > > > > Elmer Gantry
> > > > > and briefly, a Zionist...
> > > > > and then things seemed to mellow out...
> > > > So have you seen Patricia J. hanging out around here, too, recently.... ?
> > > This Patricia J?
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/c/Ihuvh9YOCik/m/qWmW7C06AwAJ
> > Probably Patricia Jungwirth:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/search?q=Patricia%20Jungwirth
> wait....could it be.....is this.....was that.....trixie (z"l) ?!?!!????!?!

deer mr. bob dylan ,

i am sorry for your loss. :-((( ✝️

rachel

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roach wrote:

> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 11:30:24 AM UTC-8, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 2:14:01 PM UTC-5, Pamela Brown wrote:
>> > On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 3:38:44 PM UTC-6, Rachel wrote:
>> > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:15:56 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
>> > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
>> >
>> > > > good morning pb.,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -cheese
>> > > > Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
>> > > > Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
>> > > > Then the Heroin Waif
>> > > > Then the Family Man
>> > > > after that, we had...
>> > > > the Wounded Divorce...
>> > > > Elmer Gantry
>> > > > and briefly, a Zionist...
>> > > > and then things seemed to mellow out...
>> > > So have you seen Patricia J. hanging out around here, too, recently.... ?
>> > This Patricia J?
>> > https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/c/Ihuvh9YOCik/m/qWmW7C06AwAJ
>> Probably Patricia Jungwirth:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/search?q=Patricia%20Jungwirth

> wait....could it be.....is this.....was that.....trixie (z"l) ?!?!!????!?!

I'm not sure, I'll have to read the thread again.

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 by: Pamela Brown - Mon, 22 Jan 2024 13:14 UTC

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 11:15:56 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
> > good morning pb.,
> >
> > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
> >
> > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
> >
> > -cheese
> Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
> Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
> Then the Heroin Waif
> Then the Family Man
> after that, we had...
> the Wounded Divorce...
> Elmer Gantry
> and briefly, a Zionist...
> and then things seemed to mellow out..
....but then, he also needed a 'nightingale'...

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 by: Zod - Mon, 22 Jan 2024 21:43 UTC

On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 11:54:25 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 6:54:06 PM UTC-5, Chris Pyle wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 6:17:21 PM UTC-5, emfril wrote:
> >
> > > ‘Life is about creating yourself’
> > Is that supposed to be a Bob quote? We do indeed create who we show to others, and I'm sure back in the early 60's all the musicians were creating their images. Some of them still hold on to those images, hairstyles, clothing, and such as if they didn't show themselves that way we wouldn't know them. Bob was always evolving himself, expanding his image, not getting tied down or put into a box.
> I know Dylan sang:
>
> "He not busy being born is busy dying."

One of his greatest...!

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 by: Zod - Tue, 23 Jan 2024 20:06 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 3:00:01 PM UTC-5, roach wrote:
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 11:30:24 AM UTC-8, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 2:14:01 PM UTC-5, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 3:38:44 PM UTC-6, Rachel wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:15:56 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
>
> > > > > good morning pb.,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -cheese
> > > > > Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
> > > > > Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
> > > > > Then the Heroin Waif
> > > > > Then the Family Man
> > > > > after that, we had...
> > > > > the Wounded Divorce...
> > > > > Elmer Gantry
> > > > > and briefly, a Zionist...
> > > > > and then things seemed to mellow out...
> > > > So have you seen Patricia J. hanging out around here, too, recently.... ?
> > > This Patricia J?
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/c/Ihuvh9YOCik/m/qWmW7C06AwAJ
> > Probably Patricia Jungwirth:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/search?q=Patricia%20Jungwirth
> wait....could it be.....is this.....was that.....trixie (z"l) ?!?!!????!?!

Eh....? Eh...?

Hi there Rachel...!

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On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 11:15:56 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
> > good morning pb.,
> >
> > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
> >
> > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
> >
> > -cheese
> Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
> Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
> Then the Heroin Waif
> Then the Family Man
> after that, we had...
> the Wounded Divorce...
> Elmer Gantry
> and briefly, a Zionist...
> and then things seemed to mellow out...although there was a constant...
the cute little goy concentration camp theme...

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 by: Pamela Brown - Wed, 31 Jan 2024 12:46 UTC

On Tuesday, January 30, 2024 at 7:47:09 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 11:15:56 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
> > > good morning pb.,
> > >
> > > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
> > >
> > > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
> > >
> > > -cheese
> > Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
> > Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
> > Then the Heroin Waif
> > Then the Family Man
> > after that, we had...
> > the Wounded Divorce...
> > Elmer Gantry
> > and briefly, a Zionist...
> > and then things seemed to mellow out...although there was a constant...
> the cute little goy concentration camp theme...
....and the nightingale...

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 by: Pamela Brown - Thu, 1 Feb 2024 11:50 UTC

On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 6:46:19 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 30, 2024 at 7:47:09 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 11:15:56 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
> > > > good morning pb.,
> > > >
> > > > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
> > > >
> > > > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
> > > >
> > > > -cheese
> > > Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
> > > Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
> > > Then the Heroin Waif
> > > Then the Family Man
> > > after that, we had...
> > > the Wounded Divorce...
> > > Elmer Gantry
> > > and briefly, a Zionist...
> > > and then things seemed to mellow out...although there was a constant....
> > the cute little goy concentration camp theme...
> ...and the nightingale...
and her father...the jokerman...

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 by: Pamela Brown - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 17:53 UTC

On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 5:50:37 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 6:46:19 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 30, 2024 at 7:47:09 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 11:15:56 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
> > > > > good morning pb.,
> > > > >
> > > > > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
> > > > >
> > > > > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
> > > > >
> > > > > -cheese
> > > > Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
> > > > Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
> > > > Then the Heroin Waif
> > > > Then the Family Man
> > > > after that, we had...
> > > > the Wounded Divorce...
> > > > Elmer Gantry
> > > > and briefly, a Zionist...
> > > > and then things seemed to mellow out...although there was a constant... e
> > > the cute little goy concentration camp theme...
> > ...and the nightingale...
> and her father...the jokerman...
Key songs tell a tale...

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 by: Pamela Brown - Thu, 8 Feb 2024 12:28 UTC

On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 11:53:06 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 5:50:37 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 6:46:19 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 30, 2024 at 7:47:09 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 11:15:56 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
> > > > > > good morning pb.,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -cheese
> > > > > Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
> > > > > Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
> > > > > Then the Heroin Waif
> > > > > Then the Family Man
> > > > > after that, we had...
> > > > > the Wounded Divorce...
> > > > > Elmer Gantry
> > > > > and briefly, a Zionist...
> > > > > and then things seemed to mellow out...although there was a constant... e
> > > > the cute little goy concentration camp theme...
> > > ...and the nightingale...
> > and her father...the jokerman...
> Key songs tell a tale...
and the blood money speaks...

Re: ‘Life is about creating yourself’: on Bob Dylan: Mixing Up the Medicine | Books | The Guardian

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 by: Pamela Brown - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 11:53 UTC

On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 11:53:06 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 5:50:37 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 6:46:19 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, January 30, 2024 at 7:47:09 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 11:15:56 AM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
> > > > > > > good morning pb.,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -cheese
> > > > > > Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
> > > > > > Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
> > > > > > Then the Heroin Waif
> > > > > > Then the Family Man
> > > > > > after that, we had...
> > > > > > the Wounded Divorce...
> > > > > > Elmer Gantry
> > > > > > and briefly, a Zionist...
> > > > > > and then things seemed to mellow out...although there was a constant... e
> > > > > the cute little goy concentration camp theme...
> > > > ...and the nightingale...
> > > and her father...the jokerman...
> > Key songs tell a tale...
> and the blood money speaks...
of an alchemic experiment...

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 by: General-Zod - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 22:43 UTC

Pamela Brown wrote:

>
>> > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-6, cheesetray wrote:
>> > > > > > > good morning pb.,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > are you suggesting "iterations" through which he reaches us, as a medium for "bob dylan, the artist," as though "bob dylan," is the messenger, and zimmy is just the conduit he uses to deliver it to the world?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > more recently, though, he has staked his claim to his fate, seemingly coming to terms with his identity, and clarifying it for the public, but also more for himself, i believe, "i am bob dylan...." and separately sharing, as well, that he is the narrator, "i," in the recent years of modbob, since TOOM ?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > -cheese
>> > > > > > Well, when Bob was involved with Albert Grossman, there seemed to be some definitive changes...
>> > > > > > Initially, the Scruffy Folk Singer
>> > > > > > Then the Heroin Waif
>> > > > > > Then the Family Man
>> > > > > > after that, we had...
>> > > > > > the Wounded Divorce...
>> > > > > > Elmer Gantry
>> > > > > > and briefly, a Zionist...
>> > > > > > and then things seemed to mellow out...although there was a constant... e
>> > > > > the cute little goy concentration camp theme...
>> > > > ...and the nightingale...
>> > > and her father...the jokerman...
>> > Key songs tell a tale...
>> and the blood money speaks...
> of an alchemic experiment...

pamina58 wrote:
>
> Another odd coincidence...
> the name of the boat is the Dali...
> Here is a Salvadore Dali painting about a bridge...
> https://archive.thedali.org/mwebcgi/mweb.exe?request=record;id=1648;type=101

Interesting...

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