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Subject: Re: Was Beethoven Gay?
From: morgan4005@gmail.com (Robert Dickerson)
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 by: Robert Dickerson - Wed, 22 Nov 2023 03:50 UTC

On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 10:38:26 PM UTC-4, imaca...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, dorissd...@gmail.com wrote:
> > петак, 23. децембар 1994. 01.55.38 UTC+1, Jwriter43 је написао/ла:
> > > What's the difference? If he was gay, do you like his music more? Do you
> > > like it less? I am SO sick of this type of thread. Grow up! People are
> > > people. It just doesn't matter whether they are gay, straight, bi or
> > > abstaining.
> >
> > No, it wouldn't affect my liking of his music at all, and tbh i don't know why i'm even on this site, it just appeared in my mind that he might gay and i came to ask google for an answer. Why are you so upset about people wanting to know if somebody is gay? Its completely normal.
> Boy you're a real asshole, it's pretty normal for people to wonder if men/women in history are gay. Especially since it was taboo to discuss this topic years ago. If you don't like it, don't read what other people write, or answer the damn question dickhead. Pretty funny this was written in the 90s and you're can't stand the fact someone asked about someones sexual orientation so much you had to go off on them. Shows you're a control freak, and that you're overly sensitive about the issue. Hell you act like he's making fun of gay people, or maybe you hate gays and don't like the question. Either way, doesn't matter, speaks volumes about yourself, shows you're a cuck.

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Subject: Re: Was Beethoven Gay?
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 by: Larry Lapidus - Mon, 11 Mar 2024 20:42 UTC

On 11/21/2023 7:50 PM, Robert Dickerson wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 10:38:26 PM UTC-4, imaca...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, dorissd...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> петак, 23. децембар 1994. 01.55.38 UTC+1, Jwriter43 је написао/ла:
>>>> What's the difference? If he was gay, do you like his music more? Do you
>>>> like it less? I am SO sick of this type of thread. Grow up! People are
>>>> people. It just doesn't matter whether they are gay, straight, bi or
>>>> abstaining.
>>>
>>> No, it wouldn't affect my liking of his music at all, and tbh i don't know why i'm even on this site, it just appeared in my mind that he might gay and i came to ask google for an answer. Why are you so upset about people wanting to know if somebody is gay? Its completely normal.
>> Boy you're a real asshole, it's pretty normal for people to wonder if men/women in history are gay. Especially since it was taboo to discuss this topic years ago. If you don't like it, don't read what other people write, or answer the damn question dickhead. Pretty funny this was written in the 90s and you're can't stand the fact someone asked about someones sexual orientation so much you had to go off on them. Shows you're a control freak, and that you're overly sensitive about the issue. Hell you act like he's making fun of gay people, or maybe you hate gays and don't like the question. Either way, doesn't matter, speaks volumes about yourself, shows you're a cuck.
A more mature response might be that Beethoven is one of the most
significant figures in human history, and, for that reason, any
verifiable fact about his life, either internal or external, is
valuable. This is especially true of material that might illuminate the
sexual elements of Beethoven's personality, since it figures
conspicuously in his creative life, and has been an object of intense
curiosity ever since the letter came to light addressed to his "immortal
beloved." Anyone interested in learning more about this subject should
read Maynard Solomon's biography, "Beethoven," which employs the
author's deep understanding of psychoanalytic techniques to achieve a
deep understanding of Beethoven's nature.

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 by: Larry Lapidus - Mon, 11 Mar 2024 20:42 UTC

On 11/21/2023 7:50 PM, Robert Dickerson wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 10:38:26 PM UTC-4, imaca...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, dorissd...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> петак, 23. децембар 1994. 01.55.38 UTC+1, Jwriter43 је написао/ла:
>>>> What's the difference? If he was gay, do you like his music more? Do you
>>>> like it less? I am SO sick of this type of thread. Grow up! People are
>>>> people. It just doesn't matter whether they are gay, straight, bi or
>>>> abstaining.
>>>
>>> No, it wouldn't affect my liking of his music at all, and tbh i don't know why i'm even on this site, it just appeared in my mind that he might gay and i came to ask google for an answer. Why are you so upset about people wanting to know if somebody is gay? Its completely normal.
>> Boy you're a real asshole, it's pretty normal for people to wonder if men/women in history are gay. Especially since it was taboo to discuss this topic years ago. If you don't like it, don't read what other people write, or answer the damn question dickhead. Pretty funny this was written in the 90s and you're can't stand the fact someone asked about someones sexual orientation so much you had to go off on them. Shows you're a control freak, and that you're overly sensitive about the issue. Hell you act like he's making fun of gay people, or maybe you hate gays and don't like the question. Either way, doesn't matter, speaks volumes about yourself, shows you're a cuck.
A more mature response might be that Beethoven is one of the most
significant figures in human history, and, for that reason, any
verifiable fact about his life, either internal or external, is
valuable. This is especially true of material that might illuminate the
sexual elements of Beethoven's personality, since it figures
conspicuously in his creative life, and has been an object of intense
curiosity ever since the letter came to light addressed to his "immortal
beloved." Anyone interested in learning more about this subject should
read Maynard Solomon's biography, "Beethoven," which employs the
author's deep understanding of psychoanalytic techniques to achieve a
deep understanding of Beethoven's nature.

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