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* Re: EMP < Carrington < Miyake Event. Probably a Lynn question.Lynn McGuire
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 by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 11 Oct 2023 21:29 UTC

On 10/9/2023 4:30 PM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> I know that Lynn is partial to the burgeoning post-EMP survival novel genre (Goodreads lists over 100 of them). Mostly, they seem to be imposed on (usually) the US by a nefarious foreign power, exploding nukes high in the atmosphere.
>
> But there are natural phenomena which can match or surpass man made EMPs. The Carrington event is long known, but recently we've found far more powerful 'Miyake Events', which can be 10x as powerful, and affect the whole planet simultaneously.
>
> Have such natural events been used as the hook for a story?
> https://www.newsweek.com/tree-rings-reveal-most-powerful-solar-storm-ever-1833028
>
> pt

"48 Hours: A Novel" by William R. Forstchen
https://www.amazon.com/48-Hours-William-R-Forstchen/dp/0765397935/

"A solitary science fiction apocalyptic book, no prequels, no sequels. I
read the well printed and well bound MMPB published by Forge Fiction
(Macmillan) in 2020. If there are any more books in the series then I
will purchase and read them."

"So how would our society react to a level five CME (coronal mass
ejection) event ? Level five is the same level as the hurricane levels,
except that the entire planet is affected. And then two months later, a
level six CME occurs, and the Earth is positioned to catch the CME event
again. How will our various governments react ? How will the people
react ? And how will our machinery and computers survive these events ?
The author takes a deep look into this rare but possible scenario with
severe life threatening results."

I gave it five stars in my 2021 review.

Lynn

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 by: pete...@gmail.com - Wed, 11 Oct 2023 21:45 UTC

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 5:29:32 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 10/9/2023 4:30 PM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I know that Lynn is partial to the burgeoning post-EMP survival novel genre (Goodreads lists over 100 of them). Mostly, they seem to be imposed on (usually) the US by a nefarious foreign power, exploding nukes high in the atmosphere.
> >
> > But there are natural phenomena which can match or surpass man made EMPs. The Carrington event is long known, but recently we've found far more powerful 'Miyake Events', which can be 10x as powerful, and affect the whole planet simultaneously.
> >
> > Have such natural events been used as the hook for a story?
> > https://www.newsweek.com/tree-rings-reveal-most-powerful-solar-storm-ever-1833028
> >
> > pt
> "48 Hours: A Novel" by William R. Forstchen
> https://www.amazon.com/48-Hours-William-R-Forstchen/dp/0765397935/

Thanks! I was sure you'd come through.

pt

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 11 Oct 2023 21:51 UTC

On 10/11/2023 4:45 PM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 5:29:32 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 10/9/2023 4:30 PM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I know that Lynn is partial to the burgeoning post-EMP survival novel genre (Goodreads lists over 100 of them). Mostly, they seem to be imposed on (usually) the US by a nefarious foreign power, exploding nukes high in the atmosphere.
>>>
>>> But there are natural phenomena which can match or surpass man made EMPs. The Carrington event is long known, but recently we've found far more powerful 'Miyake Events', which can be 10x as powerful, and affect the whole planet simultaneously.
>>>
>>> Have such natural events been used as the hook for a story?
>>> https://www.newsweek.com/tree-rings-reveal-most-powerful-solar-storm-ever-1833028
>>>
>>> pt
>> "48 Hours: A Novel" by William R. Forstchen
>> https://www.amazon.com/48-Hours-William-R-Forstchen/dp/0765397935/
>
> Thanks! I was sure you'd come through.
>
> pt

You are welcome. I assume that you saw "The Maze Runner" post too.
That was not a solitary event but the Sun got hotter for the time being.

Lynn

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 11 Oct 2023 21:53 UTC

On 10/11/2023 4:51 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 10/11/2023 4:45 PM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 5:29:32 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 10/9/2023 4:30 PM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> I know that Lynn is partial to the burgeoning post-EMP survival
>>>> novel genre (Goodreads lists over 100 of them). Mostly, they seem to
>>>> be imposed on (usually) the US by a nefarious foreign power,
>>>> exploding nukes high in the atmosphere.
>>>>
>>>> But there are natural phenomena which can match or surpass man made
>>>> EMPs. The Carrington event is long known, but recently we've found
>>>> far more powerful 'Miyake Events', which can be 10x as powerful, and
>>>> affect the whole planet simultaneously.
>>>>
>>>> Have such natural events been used as the hook for a story?
>>>> https://www.newsweek.com/tree-rings-reveal-most-powerful-solar-storm-ever-1833028
>>>>
>>>> pt
>>> "48 Hours: A Novel" by William R. Forstchen
>>> https://www.amazon.com/48-Hours-William-R-Forstchen/dp/0765397935/
>>
>> Thanks! I was sure  you'd come through.
>>
>> pt
>
> You are welcome.  I assume that you saw "The Maze Runner" post too. That
> was not a solitary event but the Sun got hotter for the time being.
>
> Lynn

And now I want to reread the book as I do not remember it much.

I was reading three books simultaneously but I finished one. One of the
other books is 432 chapters with two million words.

Lynn

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 by: danny burstein - Thu, 12 Oct 2023 05:13 UTC

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> But there are natural phenomena which can match or surpass man made EMPs
> The Carrington event is long known, but recently we've found far more
> powerful 'Miyake Events', which can be 10x as powerful, and affect
> the whole planet simultaneously.

Looks like the Wall Street Journal has a lurker here:

[WSJ]
THE FUTURE OF EVERYTHING

The Next Big Solar Storm Could Fry the Grid

Scientists are using artificial intelligence to better predict what the sun
will do and give Earth more warning to protect satellites and electronics

One day, you wake up, and the power is out. You try to get information
on your phone, and you have no internet access. Gradually you discover
millions of people across the U.S. are in the same situation - one that
will bring months or years of rebuilding.

A gigantic solar storm has hit Earth.
=====
rest (freebie/gifted URL]

https://www.wsj.com/science/environment/solar-storm-early-warning-system-b6324524?st=lhdjdn4k8k9stzb&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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 by: Charles Packer - Thu, 12 Oct 2023 10:26 UTC

On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 05:13:39 +0000, danny burstein wrote:

> [just about everything snipped, leaving just one paragraph for
> reference]
>
>> But there are natural phenomena which can match or surpass man made
>> EMPs The Carrington event is long known, but recently we've found far
>> more powerful 'Miyake Events', which can be 10x as powerful, and affect
>> the whole planet simultaneously.
>
> Looks like the Wall Street Journal has a lurker here:
>
> [WSJ]
> THE FUTURE OF EVERYTHING
>
> The Next Big Solar Storm Could Fry the Grid
>
> Scientists are using artificial intelligence to better predict what the
> sun will do and give Earth more warning to protect satellites and
> electronics
>
> One day, you wake up, and the power is out. You try to get information
> on your phone, and you have no internet access. Gradually you discover
> millions of people across the U.S. are in the same situation - one that
> will bring months or years of rebuilding.
>
> A gigantic solar storm has hit Earth.
> =====
> rest (freebie/gifted URL]
>
> https://www.wsj.com/science/environment/solar-storm-early-warning-
system-b6324524?st=lhdjdn4k8k9stzb&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

The U.S. government may have already implemented a plan for
short-term backup electric power to key facilities in case a
Carrington event knocks out the grid.

http://cpacker.org/parksite

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 by: Paul S Person - Thu, 12 Oct 2023 16:07 UTC

On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 05:13:39 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein
<dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

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>
>> But there are natural phenomena which can match or surpass man made EMPs
>> The Carrington event is long known, but recently we've found far more
>> powerful 'Miyake Events', which can be 10x as powerful, and affect
>> the whole planet simultaneously.
>
>Looks like the Wall Street Journal has a lurker here:
>
>[WSJ]
>THE FUTURE OF EVERYTHING
>
>The Next Big Solar Storm Could Fry the Grid
>
>Scientists are using artificial intelligence to better predict what the sun
>will do and give Earth more warning to protect satellites and electronics
>
>One day, you wake up, and the power is out. You try to get information
>on your phone, and you have no internet access. Gradually you discover
>millions of people across the U.S. are in the same situation - one that
>will bring months or years of rebuilding.

I wonder how soon those printed newpaper boxes will re-appear?

Of course, that presupposes that the presses will still run.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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 by: danny burstein - Thu, 12 Oct 2023 16:11 UTC

In <886giidcdrra7pgbams0i9kuppk35k6rgo@4ax.com> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:

[snip]

>>One day, you wake up, and the power is out. You try to get information=20
>>on your phone, and you have no internet access. Gradually you discover=20
>>millions of people across the U.S. are in the same situation - one that=20
>>will bring months or years of rebuilding.

>I wonder how soon those printed newpaper boxes will re-appear?

>Of course, that presupposes that the presses will still run.

Bringing this thread back to... SF writings...

http://brightempire.com/Waveries.htm

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