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* [Review] Klara and the Sun by Kazuo IshiguroMoriarty
+* Re: [Review] Klara and the Sun by Kazuo IshiguroTitus G
|`* Re: [Review] Klara and the Sun by Kazuo Ishiguroted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
| `- Re: [Review] Klara and the Sun by Kazuo IshiguroDon
+- Re: [Review] Klara and the Sun by Kazuo IshiguroD
+* Re: [Review] Klara and the Sun by Kazuo IshiguroDorothy J Heydt
|`* Re: [Review] Klara and the Sun by Kazuo IshiguroMoriarty
| `* Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Titus G
|  +* Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Jaimie Vandenbergh
|  |`* Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Garrett Wollman
|  | `* Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.David Dyer-Bennet
|  |  +- Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.David Duffy
|  |  +* Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Robert Carnegie
|  |  |`- Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Garrett Wollman
|  |  `* Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Dorothy J Heydt
|  |   `- Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Garrett Wollman
|  `* Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.David Dyer-Bennet
|   `* Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Titus G
|    +- Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Dorothy J Heydt
|    `* Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.David Dyer-Bennet
|     +* Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Dimensional Traveler
|     |+* Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Jaimie Vandenbergh
|     ||`- Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.The Horny Goat
|     |+- Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Garrett Wollman
|     |`* Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
|     | `- Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Ahasuerus
|     `- Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.Titus G
`- Re: [Review] Klara and the Sun by Kazuo IshiguroDavid Dyer-Bennet

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Re: Commonweal. Graydon Saunders.

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 by: Ahasuerus - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 02:29 UTC

On 2/16/2024 8:20 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <uqoqu1$2jot$1@dont-email.me>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>> On 2/16/2024 11:55 AM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>>> On 1/31/2024 18:36, Titus G wrote:
>>>
>>>> My references to book numbers were to order of publication.
>>>> Perhaps you meant 'Books 2 and 3 are an interesting decision about where
>>>> to start" as recommended elsewhere?
>>>
>>> Wait, were they published out of order? I didn't know, if that's so. I
>>> think of them in the order that they're numbered on Google Play Gooks,
>>> which is Going North, A Succession of Bad Days, Safely you Deliver,
>>> Under One Banner, and A Mist of Grit and Splinters.
>>>
>>> One couldn't possibly start with Safely You Deliver!
>>>
>> Is this one of those "read in published order" vs "read in internal
>> chronological order" situations?
>>
>
> IMHO, publication order is *always* the order in which to read a series.
> (Except that sometimes skipping the first published book helps).

It's hard to come up with a universally applicable rule. For starters,
prequels, side-quels, rewrites, spin-offs, etc may or may not be worth
reading. Even if they are, the order may not be intuitive.

For example, consider _Triplanetary_. It was originally unrelated to the
Lensman series, but then Smith reworked and expanded it to be Book 1 of
the rewritten 6-book series.

Or take Christopher Stasheff's _Warlock_ books. The first book (1969)
was fun. The second one (1971) was embarrassingly weak, which Stasheff
freely admitted; he rewrote it in 1984. The third book (1982) was a
partial return to form. The fourth book (1983) was a prequel, which I
would argue is eminently skippable.

Also, "publication order" may not be the order that the books were
written in, although it's fairly rare.

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 by: Titus G - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 04:24 UTC

On 17/02/24 08:55, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> On 1/31/2024 18:36, Titus G wrote:
>
>> My references to book numbers were to order of publication.
>> Perhaps you meant 'Books 2 and 3 are an interesting decision about where
>> to start" as recommended elsewhere?
>
> Wait, were they published out of order? I didn't know, if that's so. I
> think of them in the order that they're numbered on Google Play Gooks,
> which is Going North, A Succession of Bad Days, Safely you Deliver,
> Under One Banner, and A Mist of Grit and Splinters.
>
> One couldn't possibly start with Safely You Deliver!
>

I read them in publication order beginning with The March North.
It appears that others have answered your questions.

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On 16 Feb 2024 23:51:49 GMT, Jaimie Vandenbergh
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

>No, it's that 2&3 are really one story over two volumes, so starting
>with 3 (Safely You Deliver) would be hard work.

I dunno - I seem to have survived reading Foundation + Empire before
Foundation.... though being 13 at the time I badly wanted to meet a
girl like Arkady Darrell by the time I finished Second Foundation.

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