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Subject: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
From: swldx...@gmail.com
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 20:48 UTC
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Subject: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he
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A cyclist who passed a driver who was queuing in traffic subsequently got a punishment pass from the same motorist, shown in today’s video in our Near Miss of the Day series.

The rider on the receiving end was road.cc reader Kionne, who lives in the West Midlands.

“The reason for the punishment pass is further back down the road I overtook a line of stationary traffic that this person was in,” he told us.

“Throughout the video clip my speed was exactly 30mph and the speed limit for the road was 30mph,” he added – and while speed limits of course do not apply to cyclists, that does demonstrate that the driver would have been exceeding it.

https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-776-punishment-pass-driver-passed-queue-293247


Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
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Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from
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On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:49:00 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
A cyclist who passed a driver who was queuing in traffic subsequently got a punishment pass from the same motorist, shown in today’s video in our Near Miss of the Day series.

The rider on the receiving end was road.cc reader Kionne, who lives in the West Midlands.

“The reason for the punishment pass is further back down the road I overtook a line of stationary traffic that this person was in,” he told us.

“Throughout the video clip my speed was exactly 30mph and the speed limit for the road was 30mph,” he added – and while speed limits of course do not apply to cyclists, that does demonstrate that the driver would have been exceeding it.

https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-776-punishment-pass-driver-passed-queue-293247

Assault with a deadly weapon, not a 'punishment pass'.



Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Fairy-cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
From: JNugent
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 23:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Fairy-cyclist gets punishment pass from
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On 31/05/2022 09:48 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A fairy-cyclist who passed a driver who was queuing in traffic subsequently got a punishment pass from the same motorist, shown in today’s video in our Near Miss of the Day series.

The fairy-rider on the receiving end was road.cc reader Kionne, who lives in the West Midlands.

“The reason for the punishment pass is further back down the road I overtook a line of stationary traffic that this person was in,” he told us.

Crystal ball?

Telepathy?

Tarot cards?

Tea-leaves?

Once a fairy-cyclist has passed a motor vehicle, is the driver of that vehicle barred from ever passing the fairy-cyclist when the circumstances change?

“Throughout the video clip my speed was exactly 30mph and the speed limit for the road was 30mph,” he added – and while speed limits of course do not apply to fairy-cyclists, that does demonstrate that the driver would have been exceeding it.

Calibrated to Home Office standards, is it?

https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-776-punishment-pass-driver-passed-queue-293247



Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
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Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from
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On 31/05/2022 10:21 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:49:00 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A cyclist who passed a driver who was queuing in traffic subsequently got a punishment pass from the same motorist, shown in today’s video in our Near Miss of the Day series.

The rider on the receiving end was road.cc reader Kionne, who lives in the West Midlands.

“The reason for the punishment pass is further back down the road I overtook a line of stationary traffic that this person was in,” he told us.

“Throughout the video clip my speed was exactly 30mph and the speed limit for the road was 30mph,” he added – and while speed limits of course do not apply to cyclists, that does demonstrate that the driver would have been exceeding it.

https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-776-punishment-pass-driver-passed-queue-293247

Assault with a deadly weapon, not a 'punishment pass'.

What - the fairy-cyclist was hit by the motor vehicle, was he?


Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
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Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from
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On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 10:21:10 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:49:00 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
A cyclist who passed a driver who was queuing in traffic subsequently got a punishment pass from the same motorist, shown in today’s video in our Near Miss of the Day series.

The rider on the receiving end was road.cc reader Kionne, who lives in the West Midlands.

“The reason for the punishment pass is further back down the road I overtook a line of stationary traffic that this person was in,” he told us.

“Throughout the video clip my speed was exactly 30mph and the speed limit for the road was 30mph,” he added – and while speed limits of course do not apply to cyclists, that does demonstrate that the driver would have been exceeding it.

https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-776-punishment-pass-driver-passed-queue-293247
Assault with a deadly weapon, not a 'punishment pass'.

Attemped murder then, by definition.

 Fignon's ghost | 79 posts | 17 min ago
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A metal tipped cycle pump is the perfect answer imo.

That fucker should've lost a rear window for putting a human life at risk.

Absolute cnut

 Fignon's ghost | 79 posts | 58 min ago
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I don't mind saying that I've buckled / scraped a few door panels in my time for this type of behaviour. I'm sure many of us have.

I hope this was sent to SNAP?


Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Fairy-cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
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On 01/06/2022 11:03 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 10:21:10 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:49:00 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A fairy-cyclist who passed a driver who was queuing in traffic subsequently got a punishment pass from the same motorist, shown in today’s video in our Near Miss of the Day series.
The fairy-rider on the receiving end was road.cc reader Kionne, who lives in the West Midlands.
“The reason for the punishment pass is further back down the road I overtook a line of stationary traffic that this person was in,” he told us.

He can read minds at command... apparently.

“Throughout the video clip my speed was exactly 30mph and the speed limit for the road was 30mph,” he added – and while speed limits of course do not apply to fairy-cyclists, that does demonstrate that the driver would have been exceeding it.
https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-776-punishment-pass-driver-passed-queue-293247

Assault with a deadly weapon, not a 'punishment pass'.

Attemped [sic] murder then, by definition.

  Fignon's ghost | 79 posts | 17 min ago
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A metal tipped fairy-cycle pump is the perfect answer imo.

That fucker should've lost a rear window for putting a human life at risk.

Absolute cnut

  Fignon's ghost | 79 posts | 58 min ago
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I don't mind saying that I've buckled / scraped a few door panels in my time for this type of behaviour. I'm sure many of us have.

I hope this was sent to SNAP?

Sunday Night at the Palladium?


Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
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On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 00:40:38 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/05/2022 10:21 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:49:00 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A cyclist who passed a driver who was queuing in traffic subsequently got a punishment pass from the same motorist, shown in today’s video in our Near Miss of the Day series.

The rider on the receiving end was road.cc reader Kionne, who lives in the West Midlands.

“The reason for the punishment pass is further back down the road I overtook a line of stationary traffic that this person was in,” he told us.

“Throughout the video clip my speed was exactly 30mph and the speed limit for the road was 30mph,” he added – and while speed limits of course do not apply to cyclists, that does demonstrate that the driver would have been exceeding it.

https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-776-punishment-pass-driver-passed-queue-293247

Assault with a deadly weapon, not a 'punishment pass'.
What - the paying road user was hit by the motor vehicle, was he?

Get an adult to explain the difference between assault and battery.


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On 01/06/2022 10:03, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't mind saying that I've buckled / scraped a few door panels in my time for this type of behaviour. I'm sure many of us have.

And cyclists wonder why people have a low opinion of them.

--
Spike


Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
From: Spike
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Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from
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On 31/05/2022 20:48, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A cyclist who passed a driver who was queuing in traffic subsequently got a punishment pass from the same motorist, shown in today’s video in our Near Miss of the Day series.

The rider on the receiving end was road.cc reader Kionne, who lives in the West Midlands.

https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-776-punishment-pass-driver-passed-queue-293247

Is this the same Kionne who recently video'd himself doing 27 in a 20
limit, on newly-laid loose chippings on which he nearly crashed, riding
far out in the road, and not having the wit to travel by a safer route?

--
Spike


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It's a difficult one.

On one hand road is designed to facilitate filtering up to the ASL.

But sometimes I think twice before doing so because I have no desire to have the drivers all overtake me again and again on the same stretch. But on other occasions I know that if I get past then it will remain that way.



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On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 16:49:54 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a difficult one.

On one hand road is designed to facilitate filtering up to the ASL.

But sometimes I think twice before doing so because I have no desire to have the drivers all overtake me again and again on the same stretch. But on other occasions I know that if I get past then it will remain that way.

We have been told many times the main reason for using a car is to travel in your own private air conditioned vehicle. So motorists should have no problem with urban speed limits being reduced to 8mph, that way there will be no need to overtake cyclists.



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On 2/06/22 02:11, Spike wrote:
On 01/06/2022 10:03, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't mind saying that I've buckled / scraped a few door panels in my time for this type of behaviour. I'm sure many of us have.

And cyclists wonder why people have a low opinion of them.

I don't give a stuff about what people think of me.


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On 02/06/2022 10:01 am, Peter Keller wrote:

On 2/06/22 02:11, Spike wrote:
On 01/06/2022 10:03, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't mind saying that I've buckled / scraped a few door panels in my time for this type of behaviour. I'm sure many of us have.

And cyclists wonder why people have a low opinion of them.

I don't give a stuff about what people think of me.

:-)


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On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 5:07:19 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 16:49:54 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a difficult one.

On one hand road is designed to facilitate filtering up to the ASL.

But sometimes I think twice before doing so because I have no desire to have the drivers all overtake me again and again on the same stretch. But on other occasions I know that if I get past then it will remain that way.
We have been told many times the main reason for using a car is to travel in your own private air conditioned vehicle. So motorists should have no problem with urban speed limits being reduced to 8mph, that way there will be no need to overtake cyclists.

I lost count of the number of times I was overtaken in 20mph zones by speeding drivers.


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On 02/06/2022 09:01, Peter Keller wrote:
On 2/06/22 02:11, Spike wrote:
On 01/06/2022 10:03, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't mind saying that I've buckled / scraped a few door panels in my time for this type of behaviour. I'm sure many of us have.

And cyclists wonder why people have a low opinion of them.

I don't give a stuff about what people think of me.

Going from the general to the particular isn't always appropriate.

--
Spike


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On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 11:42:43 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 5:07:19 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 16:49:54 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a difficult one.

On one hand road is designed to facilitate filtering up to the ASL.

But sometimes I think twice before doing so because I have no desire to have the drivers all overtake me again and again on the same stretch. But on other occasions I know that if I get past then it will remain that way..
We have been told many times the main reason for using a car is to travel in your own private air conditioned vehicle. So motorists should have no problem with urban speed limits being reduced to 8mph, that way there will be no need to overtake cyclists.
I lost count of the number of times I was overtaken in 20mph zones by speeding drivers.

One such 20mph zone had three schools down it and it still had drivers doing 30mph plus past little schoolkids at leaving time.
They had to put speed cameras down there in the end to stop the sheer level of law breaking driving.


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On 02/06/2022 03:33 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Speaking to himself again:

On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 11:42:43 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 5:07:19 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 16:49:54 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

It's a difficult one.
On one hand road is designed to facilitate filtering up to the ASL.
But sometimes I think twice before doing so because I have no desire to have the drivers all overtake me again and again on the same stretch. But on other occasions I know that if I get past then it will remain that way.

We have been told many times the main reason for using a car is to travel in your own private air conditioned vehicle. So motorists should have no problem with urban speed limits being reduced to 8mph, that way there will be no need to overtake fairy-cyclists.

I lost count of the number of times I was overtaken in 20mph zones by speeding drivers.

One such 20mph zone had three schools down it and it still had drivers doing 30mph plus past little schoolkids at leaving time.

How fast were the passing fairy-cyclists going?

Were most of them beating your boasted 35 to 40mph (on your fairy-bike) when passing a school?

They had to put speed cameras down there in the end to stop the sheer level of law breaking driving.

All in favour.



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 IanMSpencer | 555 posts | 1 day ago
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While not condoning the behaviour, this sort of response is why I am extremely reluctant to filter, and would rarely consider occupying an advanced stop box at lights. ASLs might work in London and Oxford, but elsewhere, motorists just get irate at some cheeky cyclist getting in front and in their way. POOR BABIES - SM.

I know that even using a cycle lane to pass a line of stationary traffic can make some drivers' blood boil... and the Spectator reminds of why it is so wrong to do anything that might randomly upset a motorist, you don't want to end up a ghost bike through your own foolish choices like minding your own business rather than riding to aid drivers' psychological problems.



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On 02/06/2022 10:42, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

I lost count of the number of times I was overtaken in 20mph zones by speeding drivers.

One road.cc rider recently video'd himself at 27 in a 20 limit while
riding on a dodgy road surface and having narrowly avoided crashing.


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 BalladOfStruth replied to IanMSpencer | 54 posts | 1 day ago
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    IanMSpencer wrote:

    ASLs might work in London and Oxford, but elsewhere, motorists just get irate at some cheeky cyclist getting in front and in their way.

I wouldn't know, I've never seen one without a van sat in it.

HAHAHAHA.


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One such 20mph zone had three schools down it and it still had drivers
doing 30mph plus past little schoolkids at leaving time

They had to put speed cameras down there in the end to stop the sheer level of law breaking driving.

Presumably speeding cyclists got away on a 'Mr Arsehole'-type technicality.


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 chrisonatrike replied to IanMSpencer | 2680 posts | 22 hours ago
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They act as a buffer / safety net when people follow the previous couple of amber gamblers but notice that another direction has started moving through the junction.  Could they help a few drivers feel they've got their noses in front?  Maybe that "acts as a pressure valve" and reduces road rage?  On the other hand there are ASLs in Edinburgh and also people getting aggro at me from their vehicles, so maybe we just need more ASLs.

Must mention I've had one or two people tell me they really appreciate them..  Maybe they'd been to Oxford and London?



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On 02/06/2022 09:01, Peter Keller wrote:
On 2/06/22 02:11, Spike wrote:
On 01/06/2022 10:03, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't mind saying that I've buckled / scraped a few door panels in my time for this type of behaviour. I'm sure many of us have.

And cyclists wonder why people have a low opinion of them.

I don't give a stuff about what people think of me.

Going from the general to the particular isn't always appropriate.

I live in the particular.
No way am I going to let general weirdness interfere with my pleasures
and quality of life.


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I ride the same route every day so I know the traffic light timing and only filter to the ASL if I'll miss the next green, otherwise I sit in the queue in primary position.


Same here. I aim to get through the lights on the next green phase so only filter when necessary and rarely pass the lead motor vehicle.


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On 03/06/2022 11:33 am, Mike Collins wrote:

On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 11:06:45 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

I ride the same route every day so I know the traffic light timing and only filter to the ASL if I'll miss the next green, otherwise I sit in the queue in primary position.

Same here. I aim to get through the lights on the next green phase so only filter when necessary and rarely pass the lead motor vehicle.

Isn't patiently waiting your turn, not trying to get in front of those who were first, usually regarded as one of the greatest British virtues?


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