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From: newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk (Scott)
Newsgroups: uk.tech.broadcast
Subject: Gold bitrate DAB+
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 by: Scott - Mon, 8 Jan 2024 11:48 UTC

Has the Gold bitrate been increased from 32 kbps to 40 kbps? Is this a
consequence of Classic FM moving to DAB+ and releasing capacity?

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From: mark@invalid.com (Mark Carver)
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Subject: Re: Gold bitrate DAB+
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 by: Mark Carver - Mon, 8 Jan 2024 11:54 UTC

On 08/01/2024 11:48, Scott wrote:
> Has the Gold bitrate been increased from 32 kbps to 40 kbps? Is this a
> consequence of Classic FM moving to DAB+ and releasing capacity?

Yep, as ever Wohnort is your friend

https://www.wohnort.org/dab/

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From: newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk (Scott)
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Subject: Re: Gold bitrate DAB+
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 by: Scott - Mon, 8 Jan 2024 12:07 UTC

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 11:54:40 +0000, Mark Carver <mark@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 08/01/2024 11:48, Scott wrote:
>> Has the Gold bitrate been increased from 32 kbps to 40 kbps? Is this a
>> consequence of Classic FM moving to DAB+ and releasing capacity?
>
>Yep, as ever Wohnort is your friend
>
>https://www.wohnort.org/dab/

Thanks. I shall look there in future. Is this a first for any station
to increase its bitrate? By my count, this leaves another 40 kbps for
Global to introduce another station.

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From: brian1gaff@gmail.com (Brian Gaff)
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Subject: Re: Gold bitrate DAB+
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 by: Brian Gaff - Fri, 12 Jan 2024 12:35 UTC

Still sounds like crap to me, probably due to the signal processing.
Brian

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"Mark Carver" <mark@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> On 08/01/2024 11:48, Scott wrote:
>> Has the Gold bitrate been increased from 32 kbps to 40 kbps? Is this a
>> consequence of Classic FM moving to DAB+ and releasing capacity?
>
> Yep, as ever Wohnort is your friend
>
> https://www.wohnort.org/dab/

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Subject: Re: Gold bitrate DAB+
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 by: Scott - Fri, 12 Jan 2024 12:40 UTC

On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 12:35:36 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

>Still sounds like crap to me, probably due to the signal processing.
> Brian

I think it is clearer than it was - possibly more treble.

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From: brian1gaff@gmail.com (Brian Gaff)
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Subject: Re: Gold bitrate DAB+
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 by: Brian Gaff - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 10:49 UTC

Its so compressed though. Listen to the pumping up and down.

Mind you its pure hi fi compared with heart or Carolanes on line offering
via freeview.
Brian

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> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 12:35:36 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
> <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Still sounds like crap to me, probably due to the signal processing.
>> Brian
>
> I think it is clearer than it was - possibly more treble.

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 by: Scott - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 10:58 UTC

On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 10:49:55 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

>Its so compressed though. Listen to the pumping up and down.

I'll try to but I wonder how much of it is inherent to the source
material. After all, was it not Phil Spector who first introduced the
wall of sound?
>
>Mind you its pure hi fi compared with heart or Carolanes on line offering
>via freeview.
> Brian

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 by: John Williamson - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 11:28 UTC

Phil Spector's wall of sound wasn't dynamically compressed. It was
actually a room full of musicians. When I look at a picture of a
recording session, that studio is *crowded*. Dynamic compression in
those days involved doing things like controlling the levels by using a
light bulb to illuminate a light dependent resistor. From Wikilies. :-

"To attain the Wall of Sound, Spector's arrangements called for large
ensembles (including some instruments not generally used for ensemble
playing, such as electric and acoustic guitars), with multiple
instruments doubling or tripling many of the parts to create a fuller,
richer tone. For example, Spector often duplicated a part played by an
acoustic piano with an electric piano and a harpsichord. Mixed well
enough, the three instruments would then be indistinguishable to the
listener."

The pumping you hear on many stations now is usually an Orban Optimod
type device, either sitting between the studio and the transmitter or
implemented in the studio software, with a limiter on the transmitter input.

On 15/01/2024 10:58, Scott wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 10:49:55 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
> <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Its so compressed though. Listen to the pumping up and down.
>
> I'll try to but I wonder how much of it is inherent to the source
> material. After all, was it not Phil Spector who first introduced the
> wall of sound?
>>
>> Mind you its pure hi fi compared with heart or Carolanes on line offering
>> via freeview.
>> Brian

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