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Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
From: Mike Collins
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Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from
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On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 15:26:06 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 03/06/2022 11:33 am, Mike Collins wrote:

On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 11:06:45 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

I ride the same route every day so I know the traffic light timing and only filter to the ASL if I'll miss the next green, otherwise I sit in the queue in primary position.

Same here. I aim to get through the lights on the next green phase so only filter when necessary and rarely pass the lead motor vehicle.
Isn't patiently waiting your turn, not trying to get in front of those
who were first, usually regarded as one of the greatest British virtues?

If you choose to travel alone in a vehicle designed to carry 5 people plus cargo at over 100mph you deserve to be stuck in a queue.
Don't afflict your poor lifestyle choices on me.


Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
From: JNugent
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Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from
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On 03/06/2022 04:54 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 15:26:06 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 03/06/2022 11:33 am, Mike Collins wrote:

On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 11:06:45 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

I ride the same route every day so I know the traffic light timing and only filter to the ASL if I'll miss the next green, otherwise I sit in the queue in primary position.

Same here. I aim to get through the lights on the next green phase so only filter when necessary and rarely pass the lead motor vehicle.
Isn't patiently waiting your turn, not trying to get in front of those
who were first, usually regarded as one of the greatest British virtues?

If you choose to travel alone in a vehicle designed to carry 5 people plus cargo at over 100mph you deserve to be stuck in a queue.
Don't afflict your poor lifestyle choices on me.

I wasn't surprised to learn that you are unable to exercise patience or consideration.


Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
From: Mike Collins
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Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from
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From: cmike8828@gmail.com (Mike Collins)
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On Saturday, 4 June 2022 at 00:45:31 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 03/06/2022 04:54 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 15:26:06 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 03/06/2022 11:33 am, Mike Collins wrote:

On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 11:06:45 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

I ride the same route every day so I know the traffic light timing and only filter to the ASL if I'll miss the next green, otherwise I sit in the queue in primary position.

Same here. I aim to get through the lights on the next green phase so only filter when necessary and rarely pass the lead motor vehicle.
Isn't patiently waiting your turn, not trying to get in front of those
who were first, usually regarded as one of the greatest British virtues?

If you choose to travel alone in a vehicle designed to carry 5 people plus cargo at over 100mph you deserve to be stuck in a queue.
Don't afflict your poor lifestyle choices on me.
I wasn't surprised to learn that you are unable to exercise patience or
consideration.

Why do you object to intelligent road users filtering? It wont affect you in your motorised womb.


Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
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Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from
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On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 5:22:15 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Why do you object to intelligent road users filtering? It wont affect you in your motorised womb.

QUOTE: Cyclists may pass slower moving or stationary traffic on their right or left ENDS

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/using-the-road-overtaking.html



Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
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On 04/06/2022 05:22 am, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 4 June 2022 at 00:45:31 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 03/06/2022 04:54 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 15:26:06 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 03/06/2022 11:33 am, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 11:06:45 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

I ride the same route every day so I know the traffic light timing and only filter to the ASL if I'll miss the next green, otherwise I sit in the queue in primary position.

Same here. I aim to get through the lights on the next green phase so only filter when necessary and rarely pass the lead motor vehicle.
Isn't patiently waiting your turn, not trying to get in front of those
who were first, usually regarded as one of the greatest British virtues?

If you choose to travel alone in a vehicle designed to carry 5 people plus cargo at over 100mph you deserve to be stuck in a queue.
Don't afflict your poor lifestyle choices on me.

I wasn't surprised to learn that you are unable to exercise patience or
consideration.

Why do you object to intelligent road users filtering?

I wouldn't if it were to happen.

But it never does, does it?

It's only fairy-cyclists who do it.


Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
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Why do you object to intelligent road users filtering? It wont affect you in your motorised womb.

 HC 151: "be aware of cyclists and motorcyclists who may be passing on either side."


Subject: Re: Near Miss of the Day 776: Cyclist gets punishment pass from driver he passed in traffic queue
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On 04/06/2022 13:16, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Why do you object to intelligent road users filtering? It wont affect you in your motorised womb.

 HC 151: "be aware of cyclists and motorcyclists who may be passing on either side."

Now quote the part of the HC that says 'keep well to the left'.


--
Spike


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anMSpencer | 559 posts | 3 days ago
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While not condoning the behaviour, this sort of response is why I am extremely reluctant to filter, and would rarely consider occupying an advanced stop box at lights. ASLs might work in London and Oxford, but elsewhere, motorists just get irate at some cheeky cyclist getting in front and in their way.

I know that even using a cycle lane to pass a line of stationary traffic can make some drivers' blood boil... and the Spectator reminds of why it is so wrong to do anything that might randomly upset a motorist, you don't want to end up a ghost bike through your own foolish choices like minding your own business rather than riding to aid drivers' psychological problems.



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