https://youtu.be/SsgYUJDc7f4?t=262

'NATO is pumping everything into Ukraine, diminishing NATO assetts and
endangering vulnerable allies around the world and accomplishing nothing'

I don't think it's that bleak. I think Russia had to meet with a speed
bump. They had to feel the branch creak as they overstretched
themselves. At this point - even if NATO withdraws support - Russia has
lost thousands of soldiers of various training including generals, who
knows how much equipment and money and possibly will have to deal with a
lost generation in it's dead and draft-dodgers. Russia is also cut off
from the world and probably would be until it returned any captured
territory or at least came to some deal with Ukraine. I don't think
there'll be any commercial pressure in the West to re-establish ties. I
know I wouldn't build a business there.

On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 09:06:09 GMT
TWP <ngspammersad@yahoo.com> wrote:

> https://youtu.be/SsgYUJDc7f4?t=262
>
> 'NATO is pumping everything into Ukraine, diminishing NATO assetts
> and endangering vulnerable allies around the world and accomplishing
> nothing'
>
> I don't think it's that bleak.

I do. But it's not so much about diminishing NATO assets as destroying European member states of NATO, diminishing and depleting their assets, making them more dependent on America.

The whole plan was to make us so weak that we have to rely upon America. The plan was to destroy Europe's ambitions to be a superpower, secure America's position, ensure the hegemony

It has worked, and will keep on working while Europe allows it to keep working.

Here's a genuine question; how much more fucked do you feel we are since the invasion started ?

Once you are willing to consider that is by design you will see things in a whole new light.

Ukraine as a sacrificial pawn is of course taking a hell of a pounding. Russia isn't suffering that badly apart from their loss of troops, We and Europe are suffering massively. America is doing just fine supplying us with gas and energy we can't get elsewhere, making a tidy fortune selling us weapons of war we are gifting to Ukraine.

If I could convince you to go to war with your local supermarket, supplied you with the goods you can no longer get, sold you the arms to fight with, I'd come out of it richer and better off than either you or the supermarket, top dog.

That is what's happening here.

The hard part is suckering someone into going to war. Obama put the wheels in motion almost a decade ago and it finally paid off.

> I think Russia had to meet with a
> speed bump. They had to feel the branch creak as they overstretched
> themselves. At this point - even if NATO withdraws support - Russia
> has lost thousands of soldiers of various training including
> generals, who knows how much equipment and money and possibly will
> have to deal with a lost generation in it's dead and draft-dodgers.
> Russia is also cut off from the world and probably would be until it
> returned any captured territory or at least came to some deal with
> Ukraine. I don't think there'll be any commercial pressure in the
> West to re-establish ties. I know I wouldn't build a business there.

You have been suckered into thinking this is about Ukraine and Russia. Well, it is, but that was just the pretext for the Big Plan.

Until people wake up and realise they are simply destroying themselves they will keep on destroying themselves and Biden will keep laughing at how stupid we are to have fallen for it, for allowing it to continue.

The one thing which would thwart Biden's plan is a peace deal. While he convinces everyone there cannot be a peace deal, because we can't throw Ukraine under the bus, it's business as usual.

It's a brilliant plan. Even if Trump is elected in 2024 the damage has been done, Europe will struggle to recover, especially with the wedge America has driven between Europe and Russia. That was the key goal; make Europe weak, keep her weak, keep her reliant on America.

We have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Farage and others did warn us but he was ignored, demonised as a Putin stooge.

TWP wrote:
> https://youtu.be/SsgYUJDc7f4?t=262
>
> 'NATO is pumping everything into Ukraine, diminishing NATO assetts and
> endangering vulnerable allies around the world and accomplishing nothing'
>
> I don't think it's that bleak. I think Russia had to meet with a speed
> bump. They had to feel the branch creak as they overstretched
> themselves. At this point - even if NATO withdraws support - Russia has
> lost thousands of soldiers of various training including generals, who
> knows how much equipment and money and possibly will have to deal with a
> lost generation in it's dead and draft-dodgers. Russia is also cut off
> from the world and probably would be until it returned any captured
> territory or at least came to some deal with Ukraine. I don't think
> there'll be any commercial pressure in the West to re-establish ties. I
> know I wouldn't build a business there.
>
Insofar as NATO was formed to counter Russia, tough to see what is the
problem from a purely NATO standpoint.
The obvious downside to depleting our stocks to supply Ukraine is we
have been continuously staring a 2 front war in the face for some time
now, any time the ravenous chinks decide its time to invade Taiwan,we
may then come up short of what we need to contain and defeat these asian
planet poisoners.

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