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* Putrid sending great grandfathers to fertilize Ukraine soilJeSSe
`* Putrid sending great grandfathers to fertilize Ukraine soilThe Happy Hippy
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Putrid sending great grandfathers to fertilize Ukraine soil

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 by: JeSSe - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 04:47 UTC

Nearly 50,000 dead already, on a pace to double that before the year is
out, as the already rock bottom quality diminishes even further, and he
can hardly make that up in quantity either.

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Putin calls up his Dad's Army: Russia mobilises 70-year-olds as country
readies 100,000 men for new battle in Ukraine war

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12313183/Russia-mobilises-70-year-olds-readies-100-000-men-Ukraine-war.html
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 by: The Happy Hippy - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 16:11 UTC

On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 00:47:55 -0400
JeSSe <zo@so.org> wrote:

> Nearly 50,000 dead already, on a pace to double that before the year
> is out, as the already rock bottom quality diminishes even further,
> and he can hardly make that up in quantity either.

Actual experts and those at the sharp-end disagree with your wishful thinking and propaganda.

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1159671076/ukraine-war-donbas-russian-ukrainian-troops

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In the Donbas, Russia's vast numbers of troops weigh heavily on Ukraine's defenders

The Russian and Ukrainian armies have burned through many of their best soldiers in the past year of war. Both sides now rely heavily on conscripts.

The Russian conscripts aren't well-motivated, but Andriy says the Ukrainian army has motivational problems of its own.

"Most of the people that were ready to take guns and fight, they came in the first two months and those people are coming to an end," says Andriy.

He means that they are mostly dead. He says the quality of the new soldiers is much lower.

Andriy says the problem is that Russia has far more troops than Ukraine, and even young, inexperienced men like the ones killed last night pose a challenge simply by virtue of their numbers.

The Russian mobilizational reserve is pretty much infinite," says Andriy, "which means that they have the luxury to make mistakes. They can lose a brigade or they can lose a platoon, and some of those people are going to survive and they can share experience with the new conscripts."

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The number of Russians killed is disputed. Kiev claims 200,000 but the general western consensus is around 50,000.

Russian forces however number around 1 million, and there are said to be 2 million reservists.

And most were killed in the initial Russian invasion and counter-offensive. It's a whole different ballgame now Russia has dug in defensively as Ukraine is finding out.

Russia has raised the age at which reservists can re-enlist but the notion that Putin is so desperate he only has 70 year olds to call upon is just laughable propaganda nonsense.

As has been reported elsewhere, the move is to allow older generals and officers to still serve their country, offer their experience, it's not conscription of pensioners.

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 by: JeSSe - Thu, 20 Jul 2023 03:31 UTC

The Happy Hippy wrote:

> Russia has raised the age at which reservists can re-enlist but the notion that Putin is so desperate he only has 70 year olds to call upon is just laughable propaganda nonsense.
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> As has been reported elsewhere, the move is to allow older generals and officers to still serve their country, offer their experience, it's not conscription of pensioners.

"Putrid sending great grandfathers to fertilize Ukraine soil"

Nothing at all inaccurate in the title, so stop spouting - And I highly
doubt its as if they have a choice to "serve" or not, Putrid likely
calculates that old men with nothing left to lose might make better
soldiers, too bad he won't lead by example.

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light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.


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