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 by: The Happy Hippy - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 13:00 UTC

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/europe-united-states-international-relations-decoupling/675211/

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Europe and the United States are on the verge of the most momentous conscious uncoupling in international relations in decades.

The cause of this collapse would be the profound difference in outlook between the Republican Party's populist wing - which is led by Donald Trump but now clearly makes up the majority of the GOP - and the existential security concerns of much of Europe.

The past few weeks have revealed that Trump's pro-Russian, anti-NATO outlook isn't just a brief interlude in Republican politics; suspicion of American involvement in supporting Ukraine is now the consensus of the party’s populist heart.

During last week's GOP presidential debate, Ron DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswamy both argued against more aid for Ukraine.

Ramaswamy was more strident: He described the current situation as "disastrous" and called for a complete and immediate cessation of U.S. support for Ukraine.

Ramaswamy later went even further, basically saying that Ukraine should be cut up; Vladimir Putin would get to keep a large part of the country.

Trump did not take part in the debate, but he has previously downplayed America's interest in an Ukrainian victory and has seemed to favor territorial concessions by Ukraine to Russia.

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Maybe it doesn't need to be Trump 2024. Perhaps any Republican victory will do.

It must be galling to many who thought they were Republicans that, if they want Ukraine to defeat the commies, Putin and Russia, they had best vote for Biden and Democrats to keep the war going.

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