On 27/12/2023 10:44, Tim Streater wrote:
> On 27 Dec 2023 at 10:41:17 GMT, "Jethro_uk" <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
>
>> is metric
>>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075
>>
>> I am amused at the coy way the headline concentrates on the weird fact we
>> can now have wine in pints. Not quite sure what fucking use that is to an
>> exporter (most UK wine is of course exported).
>
> Various beverages have long been available in bottles containing 568ml - or
> hadn't you noticed.
>

But NOT wine !!.

Beer, Milk and cider might have been sold in pints but only
because that is what the British both produce and drink.

Wine, OTOH has historically come from abroad where they use
metric.

Selling wine by the pint is the ultimate in Brexit stupidity,
or maybe it is just a ploy to sell LESS wine for the same price
as the normal 75cl bottle. Shrinkflation strikes again.

On 29/12/2023 04:58 pm, Andrew wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 10:44, Tim Streater wrote:
>> On 27 Dec 2023 at 10:41:17 GMT, "Jethro_uk" <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> is metric
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075
>>>
>>> I am amused at the coy way the headline concentrates on the weird
>>> fact we
>>> can now have wine in pints. Not quite sure what fucking use that is
>>> to an
>>> exporter (most UK wine is of course exported).
>>
>> Various beverages have long been available in bottles containing 568ml
>> - or
>> hadn't you noticed.
>>
>
> But NOT wine !!.
>
> Beer, Milk and cider might have been sold in pints but only
> because that is what the British both produce and drink.
>
> Wine, OTOH has historically come from abroad where they use
> metric.
>
> Selling wine by the pint is the ultimate in Brexit stupidity,
> or maybe it is just a ploy to sell LESS wine for the same price
> as the normal 75cl bottle. Shrinkflation strikes again.

Won't we be able to judge the truth of that when and if it happens?

And isn't any assertion such as the one you have just made simply
wishful thinking?

On 29/12/2023 16:58, Andrew wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 10:44, Tim Streater wrote:
>> On 27 Dec 2023 at 10:41:17 GMT, "Jethro_uk" <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> is metric
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075
>>>
>>> I am amused at the coy way the headline concentrates on the weird
>>> fact we
>>> can now have wine in pints. Not quite sure what fucking use that is
>>> to an
>>> exporter (most UK wine is of course exported).
>>
>> Various beverages have long been available in bottles containing 568ml
>> - or
>> hadn't you noticed.
>>
>
> But NOT wine !!.
>
> Beer, Milk and cider might have been sold in pints but only
> because that is what the British both produce and drink.
>
> Wine, OTOH has historically come from abroad where they use
> metric.
>
> Selling wine by the pint is the ultimate in Brexit stupidity,
> or maybe it is just a ploy to sell LESS wine for the same price
> as the normal 75cl bottle. Shrinkflation strikes again.

Oh its obvious they will use it to say 'look, no one wants this' and
therefore quietly ditch the whole idea along with anything else that
might make it hard to re-enter the Union.

--
“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established
authorities are wrong.”

― Voltaire, The Age of Louis XIV

In message <ummtsi$t68p$1@dont-email.me>, Andrew
<Andrew97d@btinternet.com> writes
>On 27/12/2023 10:44, Tim Streater wrote:
>> On 27 Dec 2023 at 10:41:17 GMT, "Jethro_uk" <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
>>
>>> is metric
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075
>>>
>>> I am amused at the coy way the headline concentrates on the weird fact we
>>> can now have wine in pints. Not quite sure what fucking use that is to an
>>> exporter (most UK wine is of course exported).
>> Various beverages have long been available in bottles containing
>>568ml - or
>> hadn't you noticed.
>>
>
>But NOT wine !!.
>
>Beer, Milk and cider might have been sold in pints but only
>because that is what the British both produce and drink.
>
>Wine, OTOH has historically come from abroad where they use
>metric.
>
>Selling wine by the pint is the ultimate in Brexit stupidity,
>or maybe it is just a ploy to sell LESS wine for the same price
>as the normal 75cl bottle. Shrinkflation strikes again.

Surely offering any product in two fairly similar sizes is illogical?
It's against the principles of economy of scale, and 'standardization is
next to godliness. And as Henry Ford said, "You can have any colour as
long as it's black".
--
Ian
Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements

In article <ENXLe2K+QyjlFwWQ@brattleho.plus.com>,
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <ummtsi$t68p$1@dont-email.me>, Andrew
> <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> writes
> >On 27/12/2023 10:44, Tim Streater wrote:
> >> On 27 Dec 2023 at 10:41:17 GMT, "Jethro_uk" <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> is metric
> >>>
> >>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075
> >>>
> >>> I am amused at the coy way the headline concentrates on the weird fact we
> >>> can now have wine in pints. Not quite sure what fucking use that is to an
> >>> exporter (most UK wine is of course exported).
> >> Various beverages have long been available in bottles containing
> >>568ml - or
> >> hadn't you noticed.
> >>
> >
> >But NOT wine !!.
> >
> >Beer, Milk and cider might have been sold in pints but only
> >because that is what the British both produce and drink.
> >
> >Wine, OTOH has historically come from abroad where they use
> >metric.
> >
> >Selling wine by the pint is the ultimate in Brexit stupidity,
> >or maybe it is just a ploy to sell LESS wine for the same price
> >as the normal 75cl bottle. Shrinkflation strikes again.

> Surely offering any product in two fairly similar sizes is illogical?
> It's against the principles of economy of scale, and 'standardization is
> next to godliness. And as Henry Ford said, "You can have any colour as
> long as it's black".

and that was because black paint dried quickest. This meant a faster
factory output

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On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 06:55:42 +1100, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <ummtsi$t68p$1@dont-email.me>, Andrew
> <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> writes
>> On 27/12/2023 10:44, Tim Streater wrote:
>>> On 27 Dec 2023 at 10:41:17 GMT, "Jethro_uk" <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> is metric
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075
>>>>
>>>> I am amused at the coy way the headline concentrates on the weird
>>>> fact we
>>>> can now have wine in pints. Not quite sure what fucking use that is
>>>> to an
>>>> exporter (most UK wine is of course exported).
>>> Various beverages have long been available in bottles containing
>>> 568ml - or
>>> hadn't you noticed.
>>>
>>
>> But NOT wine !!.
>>
>> Beer, Milk and cider might have been sold in pints but only
>> because that is what the British both produce and drink.
>>
>> Wine, OTOH has historically come from abroad where they use
>> metric.
>>
>> Selling wine by the pint is the ultimate in Brexit stupidity,
>> or maybe it is just a ploy to sell LESS wine for the same price
>> as the normal 75cl bottle. Shrinkflation strikes again.

> Surely offering any product in two fairly similar sizes is illogical?

Have fun explaining AA and AAA batterys.

> It's against the principles of economy of scale,

Bullshit if there is a good reason for both sizes like there is with what
is a convenient size of drink.

> and 'standardization is next to godliness.

That is a different thing, particularly with bolt sizes etc.

And 200ml cans of drink of various types.

But we don't even do that with car tires, or batterys or cars either.

> And as Henry Ford said, "You can have any colour as long as it's black".

Even you should have noticed that we gave up on that quite a while ago now.

In message <5b1a84d048charles@candehope.me.uk>, charles
<charles@candehope.me.uk> writes
>In article <ENXLe2K+QyjlFwWQ@brattleho.plus.com>,
> Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <ummtsi$t68p$1@dont-email.me>, Andrew
>> <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> writes
>> >On 27/12/2023 10:44, Tim Streater wrote:
>> >> On 27 Dec 2023 at 10:41:17 GMT, "Jethro_uk"
>> >><jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> is metric
>> >>>
>> >>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075
>> >>>
>> >>> I am amused at the coy way the headline concentrates on the weird fact we
>> >>> can now have wine in pints. Not quite sure what fucking use that is to an
>> >>> exporter (most UK wine is of course exported).
>> >> Various beverages have long been available in bottles containing
>> >>568ml - or
>> >> hadn't you noticed.
>> >>
>> >
>> >But NOT wine !!.
>> >
>> >Beer, Milk and cider might have been sold in pints but only
>> >because that is what the British both produce and drink.
>> >
>> >Wine, OTOH has historically come from abroad where they use
>> >metric.
>> >
>> >Selling wine by the pint is the ultimate in Brexit stupidity,
>> >or maybe it is just a ploy to sell LESS wine for the same price
>> >as the normal 75cl bottle. Shrinkflation strikes again.
>
>> Surely offering any product in two fairly similar sizes is illogical?
>> It's against the principles of economy of scale, and 'standardization is
>> next to godliness. And as Henry Ford said, "You can have any colour as
>> long as it's black".
>
>and that was because black paint dried quickest. This meant a faster
>factory output
>
I hadn't heard that before. But is it true? This website gives a reason
for black - but not because it was quickest drying. [Other websites
might do, but I haven't checked.]
<https://collectorsautosupply.com/blog/true-or-false-did-ford-really-say-
any-color-the-customer-wants-as-long-as-its-black/>

--
Ian
Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements

On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:05:12 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

--
Richard about trolling senile Rodent:
"Rod Speed, a bare faced pig and ignorant twat."
MID: <r5uoe4$1kqo$2@gioia.aioe.org>

On 29 Dec 2023 at 20:30:05 GMT, "charles" <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

> In article <ENXLe2K+QyjlFwWQ@brattleho.plus.com>,
> Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <ummtsi$t68p$1@dont-email.me>, Andrew
>> <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> writes
>>> On 27/12/2023 10:44, Tim Streater wrote:
>>>> On 27 Dec 2023 at 10:41:17 GMT, "Jethro_uk" <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> is metric
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075
>>>>>
>>>>> I am amused at the coy way the headline concentrates on the weird fact we
>>>>> can now have wine in pints. Not quite sure what fucking use that is to an
>>>>> exporter (most UK wine is of course exported).
>>>> Various beverages have long been available in bottles containing
>>>> 568ml - or
>>>> hadn't you noticed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But NOT wine !!.
>>>
>>> Beer, Milk and cider might have been sold in pints but only
>>> because that is what the British both produce and drink.
>>>
>>> Wine, OTOH has historically come from abroad where they use
>>> metric.
>>>
>>> Selling wine by the pint is the ultimate in Brexit stupidity,
>>> or maybe it is just a ploy to sell LESS wine for the same price
>>> as the normal 75cl bottle. Shrinkflation strikes again.
>
>> Surely offering any product in two fairly similar sizes is illogical?
>> It's against the principles of economy of scale, and 'standardization is
>> next to godliness. And as Henry Ford said, "You can have any colour as
>> long as it's black".
>
> and that was because black paint dried quickest. This meant a faster
> factory output

Why would that be, then?

--
If socialism helps the poor, why are the poor in socialist countries so much poorer than the poor in capitalist countries?

Mark

On 29/12/2023 09:05 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 06:55:42 +1100, Ian Jackson
> <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In message <ummtsi$t68p$1@dont-email.me>, Andrew
>> <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> writes
>>> On 27/12/2023 10:44, Tim Streater wrote:
>>>> On 27 Dec 2023 at 10:41:17 GMT, "Jethro_uk"
>>>> <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> is metric
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075
>>>>>
>>>>> I am amused at the coy way the headline concentrates on the weird
>>>>> fact we
>>>>> can now have wine in pints. Not quite sure what fucking use that is
>>>>> to an
>>>>> exporter (most UK wine is of course exported).
>>>>  Various beverages have long been available in bottles containing
>>>> 568ml - or
>>>> hadn't you noticed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But NOT wine !!.
>>>
>>> Beer, Milk and cider might have been sold in pints but only
>>> because that is what the British both produce and drink.
>>>
>>> Wine, OTOH has historically come from abroad where they use
>>> metric.
>>>
>>> Selling wine by the pint is the ultimate in Brexit stupidity,
>>> or maybe it is just a ploy to sell LESS wine for the same price
>>> as the normal 75cl bottle. Shrinkflation strikes again.
>
>> Surely offering any product in two fairly similar sizes is illogical?
>
> Have fun explaining AA and AAA batterys.
>
>> It's against the principles of economy of scale,
>
> Bullshit if there is a good reason for both sizes like there is with
> what is a convenient size of drink.

Good point.
>
>> and 'standardization is  next to godliness.
>
> That is a different thing, particularly with bolt sizes etc.
>
> And 200ml cans of drink of various types.

One pint (16 fl oz) cans of beer are easily available in the USA.
>
> But we don't even do that with car tires, or batterys or cars either.

How about car tyres, though?
>
>> And as Henry Ford said, "You can have any colour as  long as it's black".
>
> Even you should have noticed that we gave up on that quite a while ago now.

On 29/12/2023 19:55, Ian Jackson wrote:
> In message <ummtsi$t68p$1@dont-email.me>, Andrew
> <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> writes
>> On 27/12/2023 10:44, Tim Streater wrote:
>>> On 27 Dec 2023 at 10:41:17 GMT, "Jethro_uk"
>>> <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> is metric
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075
>>>>
>>>> I am amused at the coy way the headline concentrates on the weird
>>>> fact we
>>>> can now have wine in pints. Not quite sure what fucking use that is
>>>> to an
>>>> exporter (most UK wine is of course exported).
>>>  Various beverages have long been available in bottles containing
>>> 568ml - or
>>> hadn't you noticed.
>>>
>>
>> But NOT wine !!.
>>
>> Beer, Milk and cider might have been sold in pints but only
>> because that is what the British both produce and drink.
>>
>> Wine, OTOH has historically come from abroad where they use
>> metric.
>>
>> Selling wine by the pint is the ultimate in Brexit stupidity,
>> or maybe it is just a ploy to sell LESS wine for the same price
>> as the normal 75cl bottle. Shrinkflation strikes again.
>
> Surely offering any product in two fairly similar sizes is illogical?
> It's against the principles of economy of scale, and 'standardization is
> next to godliness.  And as Henry Ford said, "You can have any colour as
> long as it's black".

The whole idea is to ridicule the drive to let people have the units
they are used to thinking in, so that when they takes us back into the
EU, its not abrupt.

--
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere,
diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
― Groucho Marx

On 30/12/2023 00:03, JNugent wrote:
>>
>> But we don't even do that with car tires, or batterys or cars either.
>
> How about car tyres, though?

Rim in inches, width in mm and the depth as a percent.

You couldn't make it up.

Yet people manage and the sky does not fall.

--
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have
forgotten your aim."

George Santayana