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* Re: Special delivery (signed for post) is pointlessPeter Johnson
+* Re: Special delivery (signed for post) is pointlessScott
|`* Re: Special delivery (signed for post) is pointlessVladimir Putin
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 by: Peter Johnson - Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:55 UTC

On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:54:25 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
<ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Am 10/01/2024 um 21:31 schrieb Vladimir Putin:
>> Why do people post items requiring a signature?  Guess what, most people
>> are out during the day.  Those items are left to get returned to sender,
>> I can't be bothered with this nonsense.
>
>I very occasionally sell through *bay and I need proof of parcel being
>delivered.

RM is obviously satisfied that delivering a signed for item without a
signature is not going to cause any problems legally, presumably
because they have the record from the postman's ('woman's) PDA.
I received one yesterday, and the first I knew about it was when an
email arrived telling me that it had been delivered.
I've not been to the sorting office to collect anything since before
Covid.

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 by: Scott - Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:25 UTC

On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:55:32 +0000, Peter Johnson
<peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:54:25 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
><ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Am 10/01/2024 um 21:31 schrieb Vladimir Putin:
>>> Why do people post items requiring a signature?  Guess what, most people
>>> are out during the day.  Those items are left to get returned to sender,
>>> I can't be bothered with this nonsense.
>>
>>I very occasionally sell through *bay and I need proof of parcel being
>>delivered.
>
>RM is obviously satisfied that delivering a signed for item without a
>signature is not going to cause any problems legally, presumably
>because they have the record from the postman's ('woman's) PDA.
>I received one yesterday, and the first I knew about it was when an
>email arrived telling me that it had been delivered.
>I've not been to the sorting office to collect anything since before

And the postman/woman will be happy to attend court as a witness while
RM covers his/her shift?

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 by: Vladimir Putin - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 06:49 UTC

On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:55:32 -0000, Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:54:25 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
> <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Am 10/01/2024 um 21:31 schrieb Vladimir Putin:
>>> Why do people post items requiring a signature? Guess what, most people
>>> are out during the day. Those items are left to get returned to sender,
>>> I can't be bothered with this nonsense.
>>
>> I very occasionally sell through *bay and I need proof of parcel being
>> delivered.
>
> RM is obviously satisfied that delivering a signed for item without a
> signature is not going to cause any problems legally, presumably
> because they have the record from the postman's ('woman's) PDA.
> I received one yesterday, and the first I knew about it was when an
> email arrived telling me that it had been delivered.
> I've not been to the sorting office to collect anything since before
> Covid.

This only happens to me with one of the 5 postmen I regularly get, because he knows me personally, the others refuse.

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 by: Vladimir Putin - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 06:50 UTC

On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:25:23 -0000, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:55:32 +0000, Peter Johnson
> <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:54:25 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
>> <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 10/01/2024 um 21:31 schrieb Vladimir Putin:
>>>> Why do people post items requiring a signature? Guess what, most people
>>>> are out during the day. Those items are left to get returned to sender,
>>>> I can't be bothered with this nonsense.
>>>
>>> I very occasionally sell through *bay and I need proof of parcel being
>>> delivered.
>>
>> RM is obviously satisfied that delivering a signed for item without a
>> signature is not going to cause any problems legally, presumably
>> because they have the record from the postman's ('woman's) PDA.
>> I received one yesterday, and the first I knew about it was when an
>> email arrived telling me that it had been delivered.
>> I've not been to the sorting office to collect anything since before
>
> And the postman/woman will be happy to attend court as a witness while
> RM covers his/her shift?

Why would a court be involved in such a trivial matter?

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 by: Scott - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 10:06 UTC

On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 06:50:00 -0000, "Vladimir Putin"
<russia@will.rule> wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:25:23 -0000, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:55:32 +0000, Peter Johnson
>> <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:54:25 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
>>> <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 10/01/2024 um 21:31 schrieb Vladimir Putin:
>>>>> Why do people post items requiring a signature? Guess what, most people
>>>>> are out during the day. Those items are left to get returned to sender,
>>>>> I can't be bothered with this nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> I very occasionally sell through *bay and I need proof of parcel being
>>>> delivered.
>>>
>>> RM is obviously satisfied that delivering a signed for item without a
>>> signature is not going to cause any problems legally, presumably
>>> because they have the record from the postman's ('woman's) PDA.
>>> I received one yesterday, and the first I knew about it was when an
>>> email arrived telling me that it had been delivered.
>>> I've not been to the sorting office to collect anything since before
>>
>> And the postman/woman will be happy to attend court as a witness while
>> RM covers his/her shift?
>
>Why would a court be involved in such a trivial matter?

Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
delivery took place.

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 by: Vladimir Putin - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:39 UTC

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 10:06:28 -0000, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 06:50:00 -0000, "Vladimir Putin"
> <russia@will.rule> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:25:23 -0000, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co..uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:55:32 +0000, Peter Johnson
>>> <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:54:25 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
>>>> <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 10/01/2024 um 21:31 schrieb Vladimir Putin:
>>>>>> Why do people post items requiring a signature? Guess what, most people
>>>>>> are out during the day. Those items are left to get returned to sender,
>>>>>> I can't be bothered with this nonsense.
>>>>>
>>>>> I very occasionally sell through *bay and I need proof of parcel being
>>>>> delivered.
>>>>
>>>> RM is obviously satisfied that delivering a signed for item without a
>>>> signature is not going to cause any problems legally, presumably
>>>> because they have the record from the postman's ('woman's) PDA.
>>>> I received one yesterday, and the first I knew about it was when an
>>>> email arrived telling me that it had been delivered.
>>>> I've not been to the sorting office to collect anything since before
>>>
>>> And the postman/woman will be happy to attend court as a witness while
>>> RM covers his/her shift?
>>
>> Why would a court be involved in such a trivial matter?
>
> Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
> delivery took place.

I doubt there would be a £10m fine for not getting something signed for.

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 by: Vladimir Putin - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:40 UTC

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 10:06:28 -0000, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 06:50:00 -0000, "Vladimir Putin"
> <russia@will.rule> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:25:23 -0000, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co..uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:55:32 +0000, Peter Johnson
>>> <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:54:25 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
>>>> <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 10/01/2024 um 21:31 schrieb Vladimir Putin:
>>>>>> Why do people post items requiring a signature? Guess what, most people
>>>>>> are out during the day. Those items are left to get returned to sender,
>>>>>> I can't be bothered with this nonsense.
>>>>>
>>>>> I very occasionally sell through *bay and I need proof of parcel being
>>>>> delivered.
>>>>
>>>> RM is obviously satisfied that delivering a signed for item without a
>>>> signature is not going to cause any problems legally, presumably
>>>> because they have the record from the postman's ('woman's) PDA.
>>>> I received one yesterday, and the first I knew about it was when an
>>>> email arrived telling me that it had been delivered.
>>>> I've not been to the sorting office to collect anything since before
>>>
>>> And the postman/woman will be happy to attend court as a witness while
>>> RM covers his/her shift?
>>
>> Why would a court be involved in such a trivial matter?
>
> Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
> delivery took place.

I doubt there would be a £10m fine for not getting something signed for.

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 by: Vladimir Putin - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:40 UTC

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 10:06:28 -0000, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 06:50:00 -0000, "Vladimir Putin"
> <russia@will.rule> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:25:23 -0000, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co..uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:55:32 +0000, Peter Johnson
>>> <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:54:25 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
>>>> <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 10/01/2024 um 21:31 schrieb Vladimir Putin:
>>>>>> Why do people post items requiring a signature? Guess what, most people
>>>>>> are out during the day. Those items are left to get returned to sender,
>>>>>> I can't be bothered with this nonsense.
>>>>>
>>>>> I very occasionally sell through *bay and I need proof of parcel being
>>>>> delivered.
>>>>
>>>> RM is obviously satisfied that delivering a signed for item without a
>>>> signature is not going to cause any problems legally, presumably
>>>> because they have the record from the postman's ('woman's) PDA.
>>>> I received one yesterday, and the first I knew about it was when an
>>>> email arrived telling me that it had been delivered.
>>>> I've not been to the sorting office to collect anything since before
>>>
>>> And the postman/woman will be happy to attend court as a witness while
>>> RM covers his/her shift?
>>
>> Why would a court be involved in such a trivial matter?
>
> Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
> delivery took place.

I doubt there would be a £10m fine for not getting something signed for.

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:44 UTC

On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leas6r49r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
wrote:

>>>Why would a court be involved in such a trivial matter?
>>
>>Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>delivery took place.
>
>I doubt there would be a £10m fine for not getting something signed for.

Please try and post just once and snip - how many pages are we expected to
scroll to read a one line reply?

What Scot said was:

"Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
delivery took place."
Nothing about a fine.
--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil but by those who
watch them without doing anything. (Albert Einstein)

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 by: Vladimir Putin - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 13:46 UTC

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:44:44 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

> On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leas6r49r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
> wrote:
>
>>>> Why would a court be involved in such a trivial matter?
>>>
>>> Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>> delivery took place.
>>
>> I doubt there would be a £10m fine for not getting something signed for.
>
> Please try and post just once and snip - how many pages are we expected to
> scroll to read a one line reply?

It's half a page on my screen.

> What Scot said was:
>
> "Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
> delivery took place."
> Nothing about a fine.

But £10m is at stake. Please stop your OCD.

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:49 UTC

On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2ledvywd9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:44:44 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leas6r49r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>Why would a court be involved in such a trivial matter?
>>>>
>>>>Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>>>delivery took place.
>>>
>>>I doubt there would be a £10m fine for not getting something signed for.
>>
>>Please try and post just once and snip - how many pages are we expected to
>>scroll to read a one line reply?
>
>It's half a page on my screen.
>
>>What Scot said was:
>>
>>"Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>delivery took place."
>>Nothing about a fine.
>
>But £10m is at stake. Please stop your OCD.

But not a fine, do you not understand that?

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
This joke was so funny when I heard it for the first time I fell of my
dinosaur.

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 by: Vladimir Putin - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 15:27 UTC

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:49:43 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

> On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2ledvywd9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:44:44 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leas6r49r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Why would a court be involved in such a trivial matter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>>>> delivery took place.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt there would be a £10m fine for not getting something signed for.
>>>
>>> Please try and post just once and snip - how many pages are we expected to
>>> scroll to read a one line reply?
>>
>> It's half a page on my screen.
>>
>>> What Scot said was:
>>>
>>> "Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>> delivery took place."
>>> Nothing about a fine.
>>
>> But £10m is at stake. Please stop your OCD.
>
> But not a fine, do you not understand that?

It's irrelevant. Relevance is something folk like you with OCD don't understand, you analyze every single thing instead of only what's important.

Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money. I doubt anything worth £10m is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without signing for it.

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:18 UTC

On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leikxt89r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:49:43 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2ledvywd9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:44:44 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leas6r49r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>Why would a court be involved in such a trivial matter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>>>>>delivery took place.
>>>>>
>>>>>I doubt there would be a £10m fine for not getting something signed
>>>>>for.
>>>>
>>>>Please try and post just once and snip - how many pages are we expected
>>>>to
>>>>scroll to read a one line reply?
>>>
>>>It's half a page on my screen.
>>>
>>>>What Scot said was:
>>>>
>>>>"Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>>>delivery took place."
>>>>Nothing about a fine.
>>>
>>>But £10m is at stake. Please stop your OCD.
>>
>>But not a fine, do you not understand that?
>
>It's irrelevant. Relevance is something folk like you with OCD don't
>understand, you analyze every single thing instead of only what's
>important.
>
>Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money. I doubt anything worth £10m
>is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without signing
>for it.

Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue that
swings the case.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
George Washington was a British subject until well after his 40th birthday.
(Margaret Thatcher, speech at the White House 17 December 1979)

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 by: Vladimir Putin - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:46 UTC

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:18:42 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

> On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leikxt89r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:49:43 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2ledvywd9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:44:44 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leas6r49r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why would a court be involved in such a trivial matter?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>>>>>> delivery took place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I doubt there would be a £10m fine for not getting something signed
>>>>>> for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please try and post just once and snip - how many pages are we expected
>>>>> to
>>>>> scroll to read a one line reply?
>>>>
>>>> It's half a page on my screen.
>>>>
>>>>> What Scot said was:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>>>> delivery took place."
>>>>> Nothing about a fine.
>>>>
>>>> But £10m is at stake. Please stop your OCD.
>>>
>>> But not a fine, do you not understand that?
>>
>> It's irrelevant. Relevance is something folk like you with OCD don't
>> understand, you analyze every single thing instead of only what's
>> important.
>>
>> Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money. I doubt anything worth £10m
>> is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without signing
>> for it.
>
> Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue that
> swings the case.

Nobody's that petty.

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 20:32 UTC

On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leukciw9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:18:42 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leikxt89r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:49:43 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2ledvywd9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:44:44 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leas6r49r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Why would a court be involved in such a trivial matter?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>>>>>>>delivery took place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I doubt there would be a £10m fine for not getting something signed
>>>>>>>for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please try and post just once and snip - how many pages are we
>>>>>>expected
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>scroll to read a one line reply?
>>>>>
>>>>>It's half a page on my screen.
>>>>>
>>>>>>What Scot said was:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>>>>>delivery took place."
>>>>>>Nothing about a fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>But £10m is at stake. Please stop your OCD.
>>>>
>>>>But not a fine, do you not understand that?
>>>
>>>It's irrelevant. Relevance is something folk like you with OCD don't
>>>understand, you analyze every single thing instead of only what's
>>>important.
>>>
>>>Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money. I doubt anything worth
>>>£10m
>>>is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without
>>>signing
>>>for it.
>>
>>Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue that
>>swings the case.
>
>Nobody's that petty.

If you think £10 million is petty may I have a loan please.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
This is as bad as it can get, but don't bet on it

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 by: Tim Streater - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 20:50 UTC

On 29 Mar 2024 at 20:32:03 GMT, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

> On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leukciw9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:18:42 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leikxt89r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>> wrote:

>>>> Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money. I doubt anything worth
>>>> £10m is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without
>>>> signing for it.
>>>
>>> Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue that
>>> swings the case.
>>
>> Nobody's that petty.
>
> If you think £10 million is petty may I have a loan please.

Loan? Sod that, he can *give* it to us.

--
For me leaving the EU has always been a fundamental if abstract question of democratic accountability: disliking a transnational government it's impossible to kick out.

Iain Martin - The Times 24/11/2022

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:39 UTC

On 29/03/2024 in message <l6onrtF91j3U1@mid.individual.net> Tim Streater
wrote:

>>>>Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue
>>>>that
>>>>swings the case.
>>>
>>>Nobody's that petty.
>>
>>If you think £10 million is petty may I have a loan please.
>
>Loan? Sod that, he can give it to us.

:-)

--
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Indecision is the key to flexibility

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 by: Vladimir Putin - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:31 UTC

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 20:32:03 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

> On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leukciw9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:18:42 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leikxt89r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:49:43 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2ledvywd9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:44:44 -0000, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook..com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 29/03/2024 in message <op.2leas6r49r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why would a court be involved in such a trivial matter?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>>>>>>>> delivery took place.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I doubt there would be a £10m fine for not getting something signed
>>>>>>>> for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please try and post just once and snip - how many pages are we
>>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> scroll to read a one line reply?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's half a page on my screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What Scot said was:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Because there could be a £10m contract dispute resting on whether
>>>>>>> delivery took place."
>>>>>>> Nothing about a fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But £10m is at stake. Please stop your OCD.
>>>>>
>>>>> But not a fine, do you not understand that?
>>>>
>>>> It's irrelevant. Relevance is something folk like you with OCD don't
>>>> understand, you analyze every single thing instead of only what's
>>>> important.
>>>>
>>>> Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money. I doubt anything worth
>>>> £10m
>>>> is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without
>>>> signing
>>>> for it.
>>>
>>> Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue that
>>> swings the case.
>>
>> Nobody's that petty.
>
> If you think £10 million is petty may I have a loan please.

I can't believe you interpreted what I said completely backwards. The other part (the signing for) is the small thing. Being petty is equating not signing for with £10 million.

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 07:31 UTC

On 30/03/2024 in message <op.2lgwuhoa9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
wrote:

>>>>>Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money. I doubt anything worth
>>>>>£10m
>>>>>is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without
>>>>>signing
>>>>>for it.
>>>>
>>>>Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue
>>>>that
>>>>swings the case.
>>>
>>>Nobody's that petty.
>>
>>If you think £10 million is petty may I have a loan please.
>
>I can't believe you interpreted what I said completely backwards. The
>other part (the signing for) is the small thing. Being petty is equating
>not signing for with £10 million.

Try it again in English?

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
There are 10 types of people in the world, those who do binary and those
who don't.

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 by: Vladimir Putin - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:29 UTC

On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 08:31:06 +0100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

> On 30/03/2024 in message <op.2lgwuhoa9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money. I doubt anything worth
>>>>>> £10m
>>>>>> is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without
>>>>>> signing
>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue
>>>>> that
>>>>> swings the case.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody's that petty.
>>>
>>> If you think £10 million is petty may I have a loan please.
>>
>> I can't believe you interpreted what I said completely backwards. The
>> other part (the signing for) is the small thing. Being petty is equating
>> not signing for with £10 million.
>
> Try it again in English?

It's in plain English, not sure why you can't comprehend it.

I can try simplifying it, but I'm not sure it'll help:

I can't believe you thought I was saying £10 million is petty, when I was actually saying fussing over not having signed for a package is petty.

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 by: Vladimir Putin - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:40 UTC

On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 08:31:06 +0100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

> On 30/03/2024 in message <op.2lgwuhoa9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money. I doubt anything worth
>>>>>> £10m
>>>>>> is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without
>>>>>> signing
>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue
>>>>> that
>>>>> swings the case.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody's that petty.
>>>
>>> If you think £10 million is petty may I have a loan please.
>>
>> I can't believe you interpreted what I said completely backwards. The
>> other part (the signing for) is the small thing. Being petty is equating
>> not signing for with £10 million.
>
> Try it again in English?

I'm now interested in why you can't understand me. Copied to the English usage forum for a second opinion.

The first sentence is easy, I'm saying you interpreted it to mean the opposite of what I said.
The second sentence is simply stating the other of the two things mentioned is what I'm classing as small (and therefore petty to fuss over).
The third sentence is stating it's petty to take the small problem of things not being signed for, and treat it seriously enough to reconsider a £10 million contract.

I wonder if using double the amount of words makes it easier for you.

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:49 UTC

On 31/03/2024 in message <op.2lh8hsby9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 08:31:06 +0100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 30/03/2024 in message <op.2lgwuhoa9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money. I doubt anything worth
>>>>>>>£10m
>>>>>>>is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without
>>>>>>>signing
>>>>>>>for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>swings the case.
>>>>>
>>>>>Nobody's that petty.
>>>>
>>>>If you think £10 million is petty may I have a loan please.
>>>
>>>I can't believe you interpreted what I said completely backwards. The
>>>other part (the signing for) is the small thing. Being petty is equating
>>>not signing for with £10 million.
>>
>>Try it again in English?
>
>I'm now interested in why you can't understand me. Copied to the English
>usage forum for a second opinion.
>
>The first sentence is easy, I'm saying you interpreted it to mean the
>opposite of what I said.
>The second sentence is simply stating the other of the two things
>mentioned is what I'm classing as small (and therefore petty to fuss over).
>The third sentence is stating it's petty to take the small problem of
>things not being signed for, and treat it seriously enough to reconsider a
>£10 million contract.
>
>I wonder if using double the amount of words makes it easier for you.

You seem confused, I'll repeat what you said:

">>>Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money. I doubt anything worth
£10m
>>>is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without
>>>signing
>>>for it.
>>
>>Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue that
>>swings the case.
>
>Nobody's that petty."

I do hope that's clear to you.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
I've been through the desert on a horse with no name.
It was a right bugger to get him back when he ran off.

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 by: Vladimir Putin - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 20:00 UTC

On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 16:49:27 +0100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

> On 31/03/2024 in message <op.2lh8hsby9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 08:31:06 +0100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/03/2024 in message <op.2lgwuhoa9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money. I doubt anything worth
>>>>>>>> £10m
>>>>>>>> is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without
>>>>>>>> signing
>>>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> swings the case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody's that petty.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think £10 million is petty may I have a loan please.
>>>>
>>>> I can't believe you interpreted what I said completely backwards. The
>>>> other part (the signing for) is the small thing. Being petty is equating
>>>> not signing for with £10 million.
>>>
>>> Try it again in English?
>>
>> I'm now interested in why you can't understand me. Copied to the English
>> usage forum for a second opinion.
>>
>> The first sentence is easy, I'm saying you interpreted it to mean the
>> opposite of what I said.
>> The second sentence is simply stating the other of the two things
>> mentioned is what I'm classing as small (and therefore petty to fuss over).
>> The third sentence is stating it's petty to take the small problem of
>> things not being signed for, and treat it seriously enough to reconsider a
>> £10 million contract.
>>
>> I wonder if using double the amount of words makes it easier for you.
>
> You seem confused,

No, you failed to understand basic English. You said the following paragraph was incomprehensible:

"I can't believe you interpreted what I said completely backwards. The
other part (the signing for) is the small thing. Being petty is equating
not signing for with £10 million."

> I'll repeat what you said:
>
> ">>>Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money. I doubt anything worth £10m
>>>> is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without
>>>> signing
>>>> for it.
>>>
>>> Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue that
>>> swings the case.
>>
>> Nobody's that petty."
>
> I do hope that's clear to you.

It's you who can't comprehend a simple concept. Posties don't get signatures, £10m contract lost over such a small thing, petty. Now do you understand?

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 20:33 UTC

On 31/03/2024 in message <op.2likitvx9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
wrote:

>It's you who can't comprehend a simple concept. Posties don't get
>signatures, £10m contract lost over such a small thing, petty. Now do you
>understand?

I understand completely, a £10m claim could arise from the inability to
prove delivery by means of a signature, simples.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Captcha is thinking of stopping the use of pictures with traffic lights as
cyclists don't know what they are.

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 by: SteveW - Mon, 1 Apr 2024 10:29 UTC

On 31/03/2024 16:29, Vladimir Putin wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 08:31:06 +0100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 30/03/2024 in message <op.2lgwuhoa9r1bhh@ryzen.home> Vladimir Putin
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Back to the point.... £10m is a lot of money.  I doubt anything
>>>>>>> worth
>>>>>>> £10m
>>>>>>> is involved just because somebody gets a signed for letter without
>>>>>>> signing
>>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you are wrong, in a contract dispute that could be the one issue
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> swings the case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody's that petty.
>>>>
>>>> If you think £10 million is petty may I have a loan please.
>>>
>>> I can't believe you interpreted what I said completely backwards.  The
>>> other part (the signing for) is the small thing.  Being petty is
>>> equating
>>> not signing for with £10 million.
>>
>> Try it again in English?
>
> It's in plain English, not sure why you can't comprehend it.
>
> I can try simplifying it, but I'm not sure it'll help:
>
> I can't believe you thought I was saying £10 million is petty, when I
> was actually saying fussing over not having signed for a package is petty.

Having signed or not signed for something may be the decider in a court
case over a $10m contract dispute.

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