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Subject	Author
Google groups is going	Lee Nowell
Re: Google groups is going	John Rumm
Re: Google groups is going	The Natural Philosopher
Re: Google groups is going	John Rumm
Re: Google groups is going	SH
Re: Google groups is going	Dave W
Re: Google groups is going	Andy Burns
Re: Google groups is going	Spike
Re: Google groups is going	Andrew
Re: Google groups is going	David Paste
Re: Google groups is going	Paul
Re: Google groups is going	Tim Streater
Re: Google groups is going	The Natural Philosopher
Re: Google groups is going	Lee Nowell
Re: Google groups is going	Tim+
Re: Google groups is going	John Rumm
Re: Google groups is going	Andy Burns

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by: Lee Nowell - Mon, 22 Jan 2024 16:50 UTC

Hi all,

Having used Google groups for many years to access this group (it is the only one I participate in) it seems that Google have decided to remove the service. Is anyone else in the same position ? Was wondering what you are moving to. I don't need a Usenet client per se just something to read and contribute here. Web based is fine as that's what I do now.

Thanks

Lee.

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From: see.my.signature@nowhere.null (John Rumm)
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by: John Rumm - Mon, 22 Jan 2024 17:16 UTC

On 22/01/2024 16:50, Lee Nowell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Having used Google groups for many years to access this group (it is
> the only one I participate in) it seems that Google have decided to
> remove the service. Is anyone else in the same position ? Was
> wondering what you are moving to. I don't need a Usenet client per
> se just something to read and contribute here. Web based is fine as
> that's what I do now.

There are some options here:

https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Newsgroup_access_tips

See the Alternatives to Google section.

--
Cheers,

John.

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From: tnp@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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by: The Natural Philosop - Mon, 22 Jan 2024 17:30 UTC

On 22/01/2024 16:50, Lee Nowell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Having used Google groups for many years to access this group (it is the only one I participate in) it seems that Google have decided to remove the service. Is anyone else in the same position ? Was wondering what you are moving to. I don't need a Usenet client per se just something to read and contribute here. Web based is fine as that's what I do now.
>
> Thanks
>
> Lee.

Most people use thunderbird and something like Eternal September, which
is free.

--
“I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the
greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of
conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which
they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by
thread, into the fabric of their lives.”

― Leo Tolstoy

Re: Google groups is going

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by: John Rumm - Mon, 22 Jan 2024 18:32 UTC

On 22/01/2024 17:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 22/01/2024 16:50, Lee Nowell wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Having used Google groups for many years to access this group (it is
>> the only one I participate in) it seems that Google have decided to
>> remove the service. Is anyone else in the same position ? Was
>> wondering what you are moving to. I don't need a Usenet client per se
>> just something to read and contribute here. Web based is fine as
>> that's what I do now.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Lee.
>
> Most people use thunderbird and something like Eternal September, which
> is free.

and means you can have filters so you don't have to wade through all the
crap from speed and his ilk. :-)

--
Cheers,

John.

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by: SH - Mon, 22 Jan 2024 21:19 UTC

On 22/01/2024 17:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 22/01/2024 16:50, Lee Nowell wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Having used Google groups for many years to access this group (it is
>> the only one I participate in) it seems that Google have decided to
>> remove the service. Is anyone else in the same position ? Was
>> wondering what you are moving to. I don't need a Usenet client per se
>> just something to read and contribute here. Web based is fine as
>> that's what I do now.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Lee.
>
> Most people use thunderbird and something like Eternal September, which
> is free.
>

I have eternal september too.

I also had AEIOE till it died a RAID array death

I also have cyber23.de and that is reliable

There is another called Solani but I think they have suspended sign ups
for now

ALl set up on Thunderbird..

If your're a glutton for punishment, there is always the HomeOwnersHub :-D

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by: David Paste - Tue, 23 Jan 2024 20:08 UTC

On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 08:50:45 -0800 (PST), Lee Nowell wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Having used Google groups for many years to access this group (it is the
> only one I participate in) it seems that Google have decided to remove
> the service. Is anyone else in the same position ?

Same situation for me. This evening I have set up an Eternal September
account and installed Pan newsreader. Both free. Seems easier than GG
already, tbh, and Pan has filtering available to get rid of the spam.

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by: Paul - Tue, 23 Jan 2024 21:34 UTC

On 1/22/2024 11:50 AM, Lee Nowell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Having used Google groups for many years to access this group (it is the only one I participate in) it seems that Google have decided to remove the service. Is anyone else in the same position ? Was wondering what you are moving to. I don't need a Usenet client per se just something to read and contribute here. Web based is fine as that's what I do now.
>
> Thanks
>
> Lee.
>

Paganini does not need an account, and is on port 119 as well.
That's the default port, which is not protected in flight by SSL/TLS.

You can select "Download Original" at the top of the PostImage window,
to get a higher resolution version of the image.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/dtR5RR4W/TBird115setup-USENET.gif

The threaded view would be a popular choice.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/wjM9BsKn/thunderbird-threaded-view.gif

*******

Thunderbird is available on more than one platform.
Practical choices, for example...

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/115.6.1/
linux-x86_64/ <=== If you are using Linux, the Package Manager has your software
mac/
win64/

If you are on another computer type, your tree-herder will
have built Thunderbird from source.

Once you have the one server set up and it is working OK,
you can try your hand at some of the more "secured" server
setups, that require the odd tweak here and there.

Usually, you try to have more than one server in the list
on the left hand side, in case a server is down for maintenance.

Paul

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by: Tim Streater - Tue, 23 Jan 2024 21:47 UTC

On 22 Jan 2024 at 21:34:01 GMT, Lee Nowell wrote:

> I don't need a Usenet client per se just something to read and contribute here.

Yes you do.

--
The truth of the matter is that we Scots have always been more divided amongst ourselves than pitted against the English. Scottish history before the Union of Parliaments is a gloomy, violent tale of murders, feuds, and tribal revenge. Only after the Act of Union did Highlanders and Lowlanders, Picts and Celts, begin to recognise one another as fellow citizens.

Tam Dalyell

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by: The Natural Philosop - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 09:27 UTC

On 23/01/2024 21:47, Tim Streater wrote:
> On 22 Jan 2024 at 21:34:01 GMT, Lee Nowell wrote:
>
>> I don't need a Usenet client per se just something to read and contribute here.
>
> Yes you do.
>
Even if it exists on someone else's web site...
--
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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by: Lee Nowell - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 15:03 UTC

On Monday 22 January 2024 at 16:50:47 UTC, Lee Nowell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Having used Google groups for many years to access this group (it is the only one I participate in) it seems that Google have decided to remove the service. Is anyone else in the same position ? Was wondering what you are moving to. I don't need a Usenet client per se just something to read and contribute here. Web based is fine as that's what I do now.
>
> Thanks
>
> Lee.
Thanks very much all for your suggestions. I should have said that I almost exclusively access this from my phone so would need to either be a browser based solution or android app (although don't want it to cache all the messages locally).

I tried NovaBBS as suggested by John on the wiki but couldn't see where to set up the account. Also, how does this ID map to the user ID I currently use or will I have to start afresh?

Thanks

Lee

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by: Tim+ - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 16:50 UTC

Lee Nowell <lee@nowell.me> wrote:
> On Monday 22 January 2024 at 16:50:47 UTC, Lee Nowell wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Having used Google groups for many years to access this group (it is the
>> only one I participate in) it seems that Google have decided to remove
>> the service. Is anyone else in the same position ? Was wondering what
>> you are moving to. I don't need a Usenet client per se just something to
>> read and contribute here. Web based is fine as that's what I do now.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Lee.
> Thanks very much all for your suggestions. I should have said that I
> almost exclusively access this from my phone so would need to either be a
> browser based solution or android app (although don't want it to cache
> all the messages locally).
>
> I tried NovaBBS as suggested by John on the wiki but couldn't see where
> to set up the account. Also, how does this ID map to the user ID I
> currently use or will I have to start afresh?
>
> Thanks
>
> Lee
>

On my mobile phone I can see a link to register at the top of the page.

Tim

--
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by: Dave W - Mon, 5 Feb 2024 16:19 UTC

On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 17:30:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 22/01/2024 16:50, Lee Nowell wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Having used Google groups for many years to access this group (it is the only one I participate in) it seems that Google have decided to remove the service. Is anyone else in the same position ? Was wondering what you are moving to. I don't need a Usenet client per se just something to read and contribute here. Web based is fine as that's what I do now.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Lee.
>
>Most people use thunderbird and something like Eternal September, which
>is free.
Those are what I'm using. However, today I found a message on Google
Groups (due to disappear on 22 Feb) which answered my problem about my
Garmin Etrex gps unit. The posting was not shown on the list from
Eternal September as they have far less storage than the mighty
Google.
I suggest everybody should scan the old messages on Google Groups for
something interesting before it disappears.
--
Dave W

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by: Andy Burns - Mon, 5 Feb 2024 16:39 UTC

Dave W wrote:

> I suggest everybody should scan the old messages on Google Groups for
> something interesting before it disappears.

The archived messages will not be disappearing ... nor will new usenet
messages be added to the G2 archive.

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by: Spike - Mon, 5 Feb 2024 16:41 UTC

Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 17:30:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 22/01/2024 16:50, Lee Nowell wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Having used Google groups for many years to access this group (it is
>>> the only one I participate in) it seems that Google have decided to
>>> remove the service. Is anyone else in the same position ? Was wondering
>>> what you are moving to. I don't need a Usenet client per se just
>>> something to read and contribute here. Web based is fine as that's what I do now.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Lee.
>>
>> Most people use thunderbird and something like Eternal September, which
>> is free.
>
> Those are what I'm using. However, today I found a message on Google
> Groups (due to disappear on 22 Feb) which answered my problem about my
> Garmin Etrex gps unit. The posting was not shown on the list from
> Eternal September as they have far less storage than the mighty
> Google.
>
> I suggest everybody should scan the old messages on Google Groups for
> something interesting before it disappears.

Google Groups will remain but as a searchable repository, it is only
posting access that is being withdrawn.

--
Spike

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by: Andrew - Thu, 8 Feb 2024 08:08 UTC

On 05/02/2024 16:19, Dave W wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 17:30:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 22/01/2024 16:50, Lee Nowell wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Having used Google groups for many years to access this group (it is the only one I participate in) it seems that Google have decided to remove the service. Is anyone else in the same position ? Was wondering what you are moving to. I don't need a Usenet client per se just something to read and contribute here. Web based is fine as that's what I do now.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Lee.
>>
>> Most people use thunderbird and something like Eternal September, which
>> is free.
>
> Those are what I'm using. However, today I found a message on Google
> Groups (due to disappear on 22 Feb) which answered my problem about my
> Garmin Etrex gps unit. The posting was not shown on the list from
> Eternal September as they have far less storage than the mighty
> Google.
>
> I suggest everybody should scan the old messages on Google Groups for
> something interesting before it disappears.

Old Usenet messages on Google Groups will remain. That includes anything
posted before 22 Feb. What is being withdrawn is the copying of new and
the posts from Usenet and ability to post to Usenet from Google Groups
itself.

https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538

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by: John Rumm - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 16:42 UTC

On 04/02/2024 15:03, Lee Nowell wrote:
> On Monday 22 January 2024 at 16:50:47 UTC, Lee Nowell wrote:

> I tried NovaBBS as suggested by John on the wiki but couldn't see
> where to set up the account. Also, how does this ID map to the user
> ID I currently use or will I have to start afresh?

You get to configure the ID in most usenet client solutions - so just
choose the same one.

--
Cheers,

John.

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by: Andy Burns - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 16:56 UTC

Lee Nowell wrote:

> I tried NovaBBS as suggested by John on the wiki but couldn't see where to set up the account

<https://www.novabbs.com/common/register.php>

> Also, how does this ID map to the user ID I currently use or will I have to start afresh?

yes, it'll be a new account, hopefully your browser will offer to
remember your username/password fr when you return?

Dunno, I've only tested nova/rslight as a guest ...

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